I'm a warden loyalist and I was watching this play out from map view and world/intel chat. When the longhook moved at the earliest, we knew about you. There was a slow QRF mounting as some people were screaming in intel about a sub but no one believed it until you surfaced and were spotted on intel and that stirred the hornet's nest. To my knowledge you sunk a bluefin that was in the early stages of stacking unfortunately. Either way, I find it infuriating that high investment entities like naval vessels are unbalanced in the way they are. Tanks can be worked around with individual ingenuity but ships are such an investment that even regimental ingenuity can't compensate for the imbalance of maneuverability between the faction's subs EDIT: I can see that - WHY WOULD SOM DO THIS
Why would unironically SOM do this?! Thanks for the insight! I always try to stay off intel for that very reason, if people can't see the tetris large ship piece then people won't react. The way naval is at the moment, it means we effectively don't have a submarine. Which is why you don't see us doing naval landings. Nobody wants to pull together 100 people just to have the whole op trashed by a few submarines. We tried to use them back but... you see how they handle, its just frustrating. So we have stuck to the rivers and send out the occasional yeet. Would be great to do more but against the best gunboat and best sub, it makes a really nasty combo for large ships.
Wardens complain about Colonial sub, but seriously theirs is better for most circumstances. The only circumstance it is not better for is engaging inland targets, and even then it requires a stupid amount of planning and patience.
Why do you say that since they are smaller and can move faster? Do they get more torpedos? Since you can stock the the arty gun I think the damage you can dish out could be better then all the torpedos form the wardens sub I think it shows how since both subs used all there torpedos and had to switch to the 120 gun
how do they know a sub is in the hex??? i travel all the time behind enemy lines on boat and foot would they think im a sub if i was in hex but on foot?
If a hex is being monitored by WOBs then you will be found out. It uses a steam dev key and steam recent players to see who's in hex. If multiple players from naval clans jump into the hex at once then you can tell its a sub.
Both sides do apparently, but WOBS has been used in naval combat to good effect to detect when naval players enter a hex with V clan admitting to use it. No one has been banned for it yet and I don't think devs can do much about it as it uses steam recent players.
lmao, a stacked BF is much more expensive than the subs lol, the cost of printing subs and bluefins is almost equal. but the logi in that bluefin is hella expensive.
as a warden i just say gg beatiful video
I love to see the collie Sub used to its full extent i hope the sub get a buff this coming update turn speed and such.
Doesnt need a buff, it's already up to standard with warden one, just in different ways. E.g. being able to reload torps anywhere
if you had arrived hours earlier, you would have killed my submarine on the displaced
Are you the guy that refilled his submarine at the drydock? That bits not in the video but we were moving away from you to avoid your anchor as well.
Great, you found almost our entire navy in the beginning of the video. As someone who affiliates himself with the Warden faction, gg.
I'm a warden loyalist and I was watching this play out from map view and world/intel chat. When the longhook moved at the earliest, we knew about you. There was a slow QRF mounting as some people were screaming in intel about a sub but no one believed it until you surfaced and were spotted on intel and that stirred the hornet's nest. To my knowledge you sunk a bluefin that was in the early stages of stacking unfortunately. Either way, I find it infuriating that high investment entities like naval vessels are unbalanced in the way they are. Tanks can be worked around with individual ingenuity but ships are such an investment that even regimental ingenuity can't compensate for the imbalance of maneuverability between the faction's subs
EDIT: I can see that -
WHY WOULD SOM DO THIS
Why would unironically SOM do this?! Thanks for the insight! I always try to stay off intel for that very reason, if people can't see the tetris large ship piece then people won't react.
The way naval is at the moment, it means we effectively don't have a submarine. Which is why you don't see us doing naval landings. Nobody wants to pull together 100 people just to have the whole op trashed by a few submarines. We tried to use them back but... you see how they handle, its just frustrating. So we have stuck to the rivers and send out the occasional yeet. Would be great to do more but against the best gunboat and best sub, it makes a really nasty combo for large ships.
Wardens complain about Colonial sub, but seriously theirs is better for most circumstances. The only circumstance it is not better for is engaging inland targets, and even then it requires a stupid amount of planning and patience.
Why do you say that since they are smaller and can move faster? Do they get more torpedos?
Since you can stock the the arty gun I think the damage you can dish out could be better then all the torpedos form the wardens sub
I think it shows how since both subs used all there torpedos and had to switch to the 120 gun
Not being rude I just want to understand and see your perspective
not as stealthy though in my oppinin.
do you ever use the arty gun to kill those logi areas and stuff?
wardens use software what do u mean?
warden use WOBs
The Green Army SUB is longer than the DD and has slower steering performance.
The submarine is the best marine
scapa flow ass operation, gg, it will make your defeat slower!!
hawk tuah!
how do they know a sub is in the hex??? i travel all the time behind enemy lines on boat and foot would they think im a sub if i was in hex but on foot?
If a hex is being monitored by WOBs then you will be found out. It uses a steam dev key and steam recent players to see who's in hex. If multiple players from naval clans jump into the hex at once then you can tell its a sub.
@Karakai117 ahh ok but I as a normal player would still draw suspicion
@@popinmo Probably not
devs need to do something about 3rd party program, ban them all...
the wardens use software to decet naval players WTF . how it work ???
it is not considered as a cheat ?
Both sides do apparently, but WOBS has been used in naval combat to good effect to detect when naval players enter a hex with V clan admitting to use it. No one has been banned for it yet and I don't think devs can do much about it as it uses steam recent players.
Bringing a sub to Callum is a real achievement. Gg all.
I don't want to hear more yapping about the coli sub now😂
One sub for one bluefin ? Not worth imo..
You guys are too desperate that you sacrifice your subs XD
lmao, a stacked BF is much more expensive than the subs lol, the cost of printing subs and bluefins is almost equal. but the logi in that bluefin is hella expensive.
@@Gioooooo_ooo You can use the BF only once.
The sub could have done more.
@@LELAZYDRAGON I don't think you know how large ships work sadly. Go ask in world chat if you can use a bluefin twice lol
@@Karakai117
Cela reste du désespoir quand on en vient à suicider un sub XD.
"C'est sur la berge que le poisson se débat le plus".
@@LELAZYDRAGON Looks like your brain lives on a bank then!