Lamar Jackson Is Under Serious Pressure This Year! | Stinkin' Truth Podcast

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  • @terrencemoore8739
    @terrencemoore8739 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    He's the only QB that got paid last year that proved they were worth the money

    • @kingroyalty9621
      @kingroyalty9621 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Thank you 🙏🏾

    • @connorsantonocito6015
      @connorsantonocito6015 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      By having multiple turnovers, taking 4 sacks and having a QBR of 42? He had a good regular season but consistently shrinks in the playoffs where he has to face good competitions. Remember the 2020 playoffs where the Ravens lost 17-3? The Ravens defense gave up 10 points but Lamar threw a pick6 that the Ravens couldn't recover from.

    • @kingroyalty9621
      @kingroyalty9621 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      @@connorsantonocito6015did he SHRINK or his coaching staff and players around him sink ? Did have personal fouls or his team did ? Did he fumble the ball at the goal line when the game was going to be tired ? Did he give up the sacks because his right tackle couldn’t blocked anyone ? Did he call 6 running plays the entire game ?🤔

    • @TUTUMAH
      @TUTUMAH 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@connorsantonocito6015Lamar has been making the GM, head coach and players the GM puts around him look better than they really are since 2018.

    • @johncarter6718
      @johncarter6718 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Really no blame on bullshit coach 6runs enough said ​@@connorsantonocito6015

  • @qthomm2923
    @qthomm2923 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Lamar been under pressure from the day he was drafted 😂 he’s not bothered by it

    • @LeMan8o4
      @LeMan8o4 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This! 👆🏾

    • @coreyjones1440
      @coreyjones1440 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      The guy literally went straight from “he should play wr “ to “He has to win a superbowl “ overnight

    • @jtbear77
      @jtbear77 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Having over 10 pro bowlers on the ravens . How are you not getting the job done . Lamar is overrated af he can have his individual stat lines and accolades but when it comes to winning as a TEAM . He is piss poor and sorry .

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Okay but he’s been bad in the playoffs

    • @kyriedagoat453
      @kyriedagoat453 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@StinkinTruthPodcast That’s bullshit and not telling the full story , stop comparing him with Mahomes nobody has been on this type of trajectory.

  • @gregorysmith8570
    @gregorysmith8570 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Only one team wins it all. Some teams have never been to a Superbowl. Lamar is the 2nd best Quarterback in the NFL period. If he is playing the Ravens will always have a chance.

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Speak for yourself! He's a choke artist. Can't be 2nd best if you're cooking so the time. Can't throw in triple coverage in the afc championship game. He stinks

    • @mahatmasloth6543
      @mahatmasloth6543 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@ShinefortheCam apparently one of the triplet covering can tackle the receiver when the ball is still 10 yards out and not draw a PI

    • @marshallduvall4251
      @marshallduvall4251 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      EXCUSE me, but I thoght MOST VALUABLE PLAYER, meant he was the best ? MVP is an individual award. Winning the SUPERBOWL is a TEAM award ! Who is the guy that's better that DID NOT win MVP ?

    • @LeMan8o4
      @LeMan8o4 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marshallduvall4251For that season that’s basically what the writers said!
      Make sense?

    • @silent1759
      @silent1759 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He a great athlete not a great qb. Big difference.

  • @goke313
    @goke313 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Certain QBs have high expectations but when it’s time to rank them. They’re ranked lower than QBs with lower expectations.
    Shouldn’t expectations align with rankings?

    • @Fqq21
      @Fqq21 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You would think

    • @jdajayi92
      @jdajayi92 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      "Expectation" is just a media rich way of picking and choosing who they want to diss. Notice how Trevor or Herbert never have an "Expectations" on them, but somehow they are always Top-5 potential QB's. Dak, Lamar, Fields, Tua, and even Jayden Daniels now have "expectations", but what do they all have in common

    • @kingroyalty9621
      @kingroyalty9621 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      My point exactly lol

    • @goke313
      @goke313 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jdajayi92 🎯

    • @truthbearer7891
      @truthbearer7891 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Exactly. Lamar has higher expectations but lower rankings. Other QBs like Burrow get the privilege of being ranked higher while also not having same pressure to win a ring. The goal post moving is hilarious. Also QB like Burrow a SB loss is used to say he’s elite when other QBs it’s used as career defining failure

  • @kingroyalty9621
    @kingroyalty9621 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    U noticed Is always the BLACK QBS they say have the most pressure ? Not Burrow/Herbert or Lawrence who didn’t even make the playoffs and they all got huge contracts ! Could u imagine if it was Lamar and Dak who got paid and didn’t make the playoffs what the narrative would be ?

    • @harrywinnz6171
      @harrywinnz6171 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's up for the challenge in 3years 24 teams will have a Black QBs half the league is Black QBs now

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Lazy take. They’re under pressure because they’re great and they have played at an MVP level and haven’t been able to cash in on a Super Bowl, and their teams are constructed properly with great rosters and high expectations… You can’t say that about the Chargers and Jacksonville so quit playing the race card

    • @kingroyalty9621
      @kingroyalty9621 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      @@StinkinTruthPodcast neither have Burrow or Allen …The Bills and Bengals both been at the top of the league with Talent neither of them have a SB! No one had the Ravens making the playoffs in 2019 or last year for that matter …No one had them having a good roster last year ! They had a new offensive Coordinator and everyone in the media said it would be a disaster because Lamar couldn’t play in a pro style offense even though he played in one in College🤦🏾‍♂️ The Ravens greatness is built around Lamar …Not about the team being talented! Burrow/Allen & Herbert all have had way more talented teams but I never hear the criticism for those guys like we constantly hear for Lamar !

    • @gregorysmith8570
      @gregorysmith8570 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Isn't Mahomes a black QB!

    • @kingroyalty9621
      @kingroyalty9621 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@gregorysmith8570 let’s not play stupid …It’s always been a different stigma on how Lamar plays the game compared to a traditional QB! What other QB would WIN league MVP twice but not considered a top 5 QB in the league ?🤔

  • @katinashellington2903
    @katinashellington2903 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    LJ8 don't have to run as much, he also can throw from the pocket but if your offensive line is not producing as advertised, the QB don't have too many options.

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is just an awful take.

    • @DMoney011
      @DMoney011 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StinkinTruthPodcastWHAT? You are so unserious right now 🤬🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @AG-xj4zy
      @AG-xj4zy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Couldn't agree more that's one of the reasons we traded and let go 3 of our OLs. We couldn't hold KC's defense to run the ball in the AFC final.

  • @cobyjohnson9274
    @cobyjohnson9274 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The thing I don’t understand is Lamar isn’t praised like Burrow, Allen, or Herbert but is under more pressure? How does that make sense when most of the media rank those guys ahead of him? You guys talk about his injury history more than Burrow and he missed more time. Bias takes as usual. I bet neither one of these guys got him top 5 but he has the most pressure smh.

    • @Lionheart10182
      @Lionheart10182 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not true at all people praise Lamar nonstop

    • @cobyjohnson9274
      @cobyjohnson9274 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Lionheart10182 like? Because I hear mostly criticism and his health concerns

    • @Lionheart10182
      @Lionheart10182 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cobyjohnson9274 most people consider him a top 5 QB easily…. He did win the MVP, you realized you have to be voted on by the writers to win that? Lamar gets plenty of respect , as he deserves, he’s an elite QB, With respect comes expectations and criticism. Comes with the territory.

    • @cobyjohnson9274
      @cobyjohnson9274 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Lionheart10182 I won’t deny that but let’s be real. With 2 MVP’s it shouldn’t be top 5, it should be top 2-3 Hell with one MVP people didn’t think he deserved a long term deal. Yet burrow, Allen, Herbert nor Lawrence were question about getting paid with less accomplishments.

    • @kyriedagoat453
      @kyriedagoat453 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Lionheart10182bull shìt , he gets back handed praise because he’s been a spectacular player and dudes don’t wanna look non credible any time he fail’s people show they’re true feelings.

  • @Michealmyers47
    @Michealmyers47 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    No one is under more pressure than Joe burrow!

    • @mattmccabe2946
      @mattmccabe2946 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He has a ton of pressure but its to stay healthy, we know he is a baller. Id say deshaun has more pressure imo

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah how burrow is fine! You must be a rat bird jealous fan. Yall been jealous of joe since his 21 run. Nobody even cares about the Bengals that much for pressure to be on him

    • @seanswinton6242
      @seanswinton6242 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@ShinefortheCam Many people talk about QB contracts and are they worth the money. Burrow isn't because he seems to be often injured. Going to a Super Bowl is an accomplishment, but that requires having a great key pieces like a top WR. Burrow has that, Lamar Jackson never has.

    • @marshallduvall4251
      @marshallduvall4251 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pressure ? From whom to do what ? Borrow has been to the SUPERBOWL ! He's ALREADY PAID ! Where does the "pressure" come from ?

    • @cobyjohnson9274
      @cobyjohnson9274 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ShinefortheCamyou can’t keep holding on to that Super Bowl appearance 3 yrs ago. If that’s the case, Jalen hurts should be getting the same love Burrow gets no?

  • @DSrDavis-tq9qp
    @DSrDavis-tq9qp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Every QB that's not Mahome, Rogers or Matthews , have not won the Superbowl, getting there and losing dont count. This is a stupid take.

  • @jdajayi92
    @jdajayi92 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Question: when will Trevor or Herbert or Burrow (even Allen) ever be under "the most pressure"? Media really loves to crap on Lamar, while giving passes to the other guys who never won a superbowl. I actually thought you guys would be a little better than that.

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lamar trash & a choke artist

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Why is having expectations for Lamar taking a dump on him? The team is a bully and Lamar the two-time MVP that shrinks in the playoffs under 60% completion percentage 6TDs versus six INT.

    • @jdajayi92
      @jdajayi92 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@StinkinTruthPodcast His bad playoff stats are a fair point (even though we can't ignore horrible coaching decisions) but the question is WHY do you NEVER put any pressure on the other guys who bomb/choke/lose/underperform. I dare you to make a segment called "Is Burrow Too Injury Prone be considered Top-5". "Allen has blown too many Chances to be trusted" "Is Trevor/Herbert/Burrow worth their contracts after underperforming?". But you'll gladly turn around put "EXPECTATIONS" on Lamar, Dak, Hurts, Tua, Watson, Fields, Jayden, and Richardson. If they don't execute there's doubt, but you have all the faith and "no expectations" for other guys. Even Levis will get a pass. The race bias is blatantly obvious and you can't deny it

    • @silent1759
      @silent1759 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@jdajayi92lmao no racial bias. Lamar is a 2x mvp who becomes trash once the playoffs starts when he's not playing the last seed. That's a fact. Dak also gets the same treatment for the same reason.

    • @jdajayi92
      @jdajayi92 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@silent1759 you definitely didn't read my comment. you just want to say stuff. You didn't answer the question either, because racists never do

  • @kingroyalty9621
    @kingroyalty9621 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Same guys who always give Lamar nothing but backhanded compliments always turn around and say he have pressure to win a Chip !

  • @maxcenevil
    @maxcenevil 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The criticism of Lamar is fine. Its par for the course. Whats egregious is having a negative opinion of Lamar while giving Sam D. the latitude to stink for so long.

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have the same expectations for Sam as you do for Lamar? Get the Flip out of here. Lamar is a 2 time MVP who has never lead his team back from a 10 half time deficit to win, completes 57%in the playoffs, has 6tds and 6 picks. Dude has to show up in the post season or the MVP are hallow

    • @DMoney011
      @DMoney011 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@StinkinTruthPodcastIt may not have been at halftime but Lamar’s only win against Mahomes in 2021 he was down by 11 twice in that game and won, that was the year they lost most of their team to season ending injuries including him. I will give you this he doesn’t have any excuses anymore now that King Henry can make things much easier for him and Zay Flowers and Rashod Bateman (if healthy) are very talented so it’s on him to elevate them

    • @scdb12
      @scdb12 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@StinkinTruthPodcast Stink I hope this isn't you that is replying to the comments. I have too much respect for you to believe this. Whoever this is need to do some research. Why don't you start with the Colts vs Ravens 2021, KC vs Ravens 2021, Vikings vs Ravens 2021. 3 examples of 10 point or more deficit comeback wins. Outside of that please don't omit that the Ravens are normally up by double digits in almost every regular season game. Lamar didn't shrink against the Texans did he? Against the Chiefs he needed to play better because the coaching staff admitted they didn't give him enough options to control the game against KC's defense and they still lost by 7. And his MVP's and All-pros are hallow if he doesn't show up in the playoffs? Your QB was 7-8 in the playoffs until the last two years of his career and finished with a 54% completion in the playoffs. C'mon Stink!

    • @thaddeusjohnson926
      @thaddeusjohnson926 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@StinkinTruthPodcastit’s cool to say that but you don’t give him the respect that should come with it. none of you people with a platform do.

  • @chuletajones6833
    @chuletajones6833 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lamar is arguably one of the greatest regular season QBs we've ever seen but because of his poor playoff performances its easy for people to dismiss him.

  • @wc6046
    @wc6046 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The "Until he proves it in the playoffs" discourse is funny, because they never finish the sentence. Until then... what? A super bowl win would elevate him into the highest tier of NFL QB's of all time, but 2 league MVP's already makes him a lock for the hall of fame

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lock? Not sure about that!

    • @TiredofTomfoolery7
      @TiredofTomfoolery7 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@StinkinTruthPodcast You've lost your mind in real life. He has one of the greatest regular seasons winning percentages in league history and was number 1 at one time. However, the defense gave up games. He should have two unanimous MVPs, not one, but there's always good ol boy 💩 going on with Lamar. Is Allen, Burrow, or Herbert under pressure? Because they haven't won a SuperBowl either. Hell Herbert can't even make the playoffs and Burrow can't stay healthy. Lamar owns Burrow the same way you guys say thay Mahomes owns Lamar. The Bills got better last year when they took the ball out of Allen's hands. Go figure! /Please stop your tomfoolery.

    • @truthbearer7891
      @truthbearer7891 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@StinkinTruthPodcastOnly thing I’m sure about is you’re not even close to objective because you said Lamar would be a bust back on Speak for Yourself. The internet never forgets

    • @marshallduvall4251
      @marshallduvall4251 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dan Marino never won the SUPERBOWL ! Hall of fame ! Joe Namath was a mediocre qb at best, Hall of fame ! Trent Dilfer won the SUPERBOWL should he be in the HALL OF FAME ? NONE of these comparisons make sense ! Burrow is high proformance good, on a great team ! The Rams #1 defense proved that. Lamar beat that DEFENSE ! Ran the best defenses home last year. High scores against them ALL !Fran Tarkenton was one of the GREATEST that EVER PLAYED ! Hall of Fame ! He was on a bad team !

    • @oj9069
      @oj9069 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If he wins a suprebowl. They'll all sit there and say he needs 2

  • @MrJBEEZZY22
    @MrJBEEZZY22 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So exited I found Mark! I super enjoy the style
    In which you choose or share information and insights. I subscribed 🙌🏽👊🏽💪🏽✊🏽🙏🏽

  • @oj9069
    @oj9069 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    New OC. First year running it, smashed it. Year 2 im more confident

  • @monih2530
    @monih2530 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    All ya can talk about Lamar playoff He will get his championship before his career is over and all ya haters will still be hating on the black qb. when he is in the hall of fame. your mama told you not to hate just congratulate

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So stupid

    • @jdajayi92
      @jdajayi92 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@StinkinTruthPodcast But he's right. You guys hate the hell out of Lamar while praising Herbert as the next coming. And whenever we ask logical questions as to why Lamar gets crapped on while Allen, Burrow, Herbert, and Trevor get all the passes and excuses, all they can say is "don't play the race card" without actual answers for their bias.

    • @kingroyalty9621
      @kingroyalty9621 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@jdajayi92so glad everyone waking up to the nonsense

    • @WSAMP24
      @WSAMP24 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      stupid comment

    • @silent1759
      @silent1759 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jdajayi92 lmao he's not right. How about you ppl stop deflecting to white qbs when it comes to the black qbs. Maybe then we will take you seriously.

  • @theartwell1918
    @theartwell1918 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    As a Ravens fan, I appreciate you. I’m always for holding the guys accountable for reaching the potential we see in them. Lamar’s talent potential is probably the highest we’ve ever seen. He won’t reach that ceiling without overcoming criticism. We criticize every single great because we expect greatness and we see it in them as a possibility. I’m just incredibly excited for him as he’s improved each season. Can’t wait to see the product on the field!!!

  • @user-mc9pl7in2i
    @user-mc9pl7in2i 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great show once again. Definitely my favorite sports show to watch. Really enjoy the information on all things football but you are really keyed in on all the other major sports as well. Thanks again Mike and Mark.

  • @bricew8448
    @bricew8448 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why aren’t these other “elite” QBs under pressure?

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They are under pressure I just think the guy with two MVPs has more pressure to win a chip

  • @bootsomega8114
    @bootsomega8114 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Best break down of the nfc north I’ve seen.

  • @twentynine5846
    @twentynine5846 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Missed you on TV
    Glade you git a pod cast
    You been to the mountain top
    3 times champ
    👉🏾💪🏽

  • @lelanledoux21
    @lelanledoux21 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I JUST found out you guys are pulling double duty!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gooooooo Mark!!!!!!!!! Gooooooo Mike!!!!!!!!!

  • @mattthomas1442
    @mattthomas1442 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Everybody up in arms about Campbell being aggressive and as a Lions fan I have to admit there have been a couple times where I thought it was uncalled for most notably going for 2 after those penalties in Dallas but against SF I didn't have a problem with it.
    For starters people have to understand the suspect kicking game of the Lions, their kicker hadn't made a kick that long outdoors in his career and was just barely over 50% as a whole from that distance or longer. So do you trust a suspect kicker or the number 1 Oline, top 3 running game and top 3 offense overall to gain 3-4 yards? Can't blame him for taking the latter. Also people forget that the play was there on them but Josh Reynolds dropped the ball, he catches those at a well above 90% clip, if he makes those catches and moves the chains the Lions very well win the game and Campbell looks like a genius.

  • @roughouseRedwolf
    @roughouseRedwolf 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So Lamar has to, throw the ball, develop the WRs, call the plays, and be perfect every game, every snap 24/7 ……

  • @monophthalmos9633
    @monophthalmos9633 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How many games does Deshaun Watson get before Jameis Winston replaces him?

    • @WSAMP24
      @WSAMP24 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      6 is what is averaging. Jameis might be better anyways. Watson has stunk since 2020.

  • @allenpace5348
    @allenpace5348 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good show today

  • @truthbearer7891
    @truthbearer7891 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been following Mark for two decades on TV and for most part love his analysis but he’s not objective at all when it comes to Lamar. Blinded by preconceived biases because he thought Lamar would be a bust. My theory is if Michael Vick didn’t waste his talent and lived up to his potential in Atlanta, Mark wouldn’t be so skeptical of Lamar. It’s up to Lamar to win it all to forever shed narratives about style of play that Vick could have shattered two decades ago if he lived up to his potential.
    The irony is I think what will put Lamar over the hump is what put Marks Broncos over the hump in an all time great RB. I see Derrick Henry stiff arming Father Time the next few years and being what Terrell Davis was to the 1997-98 Broncos

  • @elliswininger
    @elliswininger 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How Burrow not got pressure on him to perform? He is Cincinnati. Tyler Boyd no longer a Bengal either. Need to study up on the moves this past offseason. Saying LJ got pressure on him and then blaming the coaches for the AFC Championship is hilarious too.

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Burrow does have pressure no as much as Lamar with 2 mvps

    • @kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589
      @kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Joe Burrow has more weapons this year than,;Jermaine Burton who is an upgrade from a aging & declining Boyd ,,Jermaine was a steal who’s faster & don’t drop catches,;Mike gesecki who’s the best TE joe ever had ,yoshi,tanner hudson,Trenton Irwin,;& they finally have a offensive line

  • @segagenesis7708
    @segagenesis7708 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Last year was the first year they even gave Lamar a legit NFL level passing scheme and it still wasn't great, because they were still transitioning from Roman's offense.

    • @ColinFlynn1665
      @ColinFlynn1665 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wasn't great and he still won MVP! Just imagine how good he and this offense will be with a better understanding of the new offense

    • @segagenesis7708
      @segagenesis7708 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ColinFlynn1665 Agreed. Lamar is still being held to his time under Roman. Things are changing.

    • @Finnissee0122
      @Finnissee0122 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed. There team still had much of Roman’s personnel.

  • @lorraweemz
    @lorraweemz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a Lady Raven, This is one of the few honest takes @21:00, Is the Ravens & electric MVP @Lj_era8 2024 year a SB win or is this a bust? It's a win, @Ravensnation, #Sgellison we are coming out to scream and yell as we watch #Lamarjackson, #Kinghenry2, Mark, Zay, Likely & Monk learn from their mistakes, as they bring the storm the rain, thunder and lightning its going to be epic this year see y'all 9.5.24 for the juggernaut game opener.

  • @xXForgottenFallXx
    @xXForgottenFallXx 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love how the episode is titled after a talking point that only has 2 minutes spent on.

  • @____2080_____
    @____2080_____ 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mark, as someone who enjoyed your career both in Washington and in Denver… Also your appearances at FS1…
    All I have to say is… What took you so long to create this?

  • @RockedOnPodcastNetwork
    @RockedOnPodcastNetwork 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Darnell Wright

  • @excaliburofthelevant5750
    @excaliburofthelevant5750 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Lamar is the only reason the Ravens are relevant….. Wait til he gets a true number one

    • @78LedHead
      @78LedHead 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You realize that doesn't also mean he'll ever do anything when it matters most. He chokes and acts like he couldn't care less. I'd be terrified as a Baltimore fan after that last loss. How many more years of high round WR's is it gonna take? 5 more?

    • @jamessanders6788
      @jamessanders6788 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂

    • @trueson5351
      @trueson5351 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Every good qb gets a #1, the Ravens organization have done a terrible job

    • @mr.coachapewtik
      @mr.coachapewtik 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You guys are idiots.

    • @jay_d_hawg
      @jay_d_hawg 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bate got it this year my man

  • @pablorodriguez6557
    @pablorodriguez6557 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did Stink finally smack Mike in the face for calling WRs a skill position?

  • @christopherjudd8996
    @christopherjudd8996 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He predicted the Browns to finish last?! We'll see won't we! I predict Cleveland wins the division and competes for the 1 seed so only one of us will be right or we'll both miss because I truly believe there's no way the Browns finish last.

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They have a great roster I just really worry about QB! They were better w/o him last year

  • @kevinbillingsley8256
    @kevinbillingsley8256 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You need hand on the ground DEs to move to a 4-3. It's not an easy transition if you have the wrong players. And maybe in 1985 when Schlereth played football, 3-4 defenses went to a traditional nickel when facing single-back formations. Now-a-days they go to a 3-3-5 so they still have three down lineman.
    As for Lamar or Dak being under more pressure, nonsense. Every starting QB in the league is under a tremendous amount of pressure every year. The ones who haven't yet gotten the big paydays are under the most pressure. If Lamar or Dak flame out completely from this point on, they are still jet-setters. How can they be under more pressure than the guy who's gonna be selling cars for 30 years if he flames out?

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m only in a NFL locker room every Friday of the year and I still watch about 30 hours of take a week. They played that janky ass 3-3-5 shit when I played too. They are still playing a four down front in nickel my friend.
      More expectations leads to more pressure. Plant of QB’s who haven’t won dick have been paid. Herbert Lawrence Jones

    • @kevinbillingsley8256
      @kevinbillingsley8256 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StinkinTruthPodcast Ok Mark. Back in the day when the Ravens had Lewis, Suggs and either Adalius Thomas or later Jarrett Johnson, tell me which of those three linebackers are you taking off the field to put in a fourth down lineman in a nickel? Just because Suggs moves forward a bit doesn't make it four down lineman, it's the same personnel. And you can call that "janky" if you want but most experts called it some of the greatest defense ever played. Just sayin'

  • @RockedOnPodcastNetwork
    @RockedOnPodcastNetwork 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ummm, Gibbs didnt get 1000 yards rushin buddy. Almost, but are you talking combined yards?

  • @TiredofTomfoolery7
    @TiredofTomfoolery7 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I find it funny that an overrated lineman has so much criticism for a future hall of fame quarterback. It's absolutely ridiculous

  • @finnz7786
    @finnz7786 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    24:11 trevor more so then lj

  • @jiquezgreen
    @jiquezgreen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Explain to me How Lamar under is pressure stfu & return all that podcast equipment back to radio shack

  • @Lionheart10182
    @Lionheart10182 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ravens have no excuses, they clearly had the best roster last year and CHOKED to the best QB in the league Mahomes. That loss is mostly on the OC and Lamar unfortunately

    • @coreyjones1440
      @coreyjones1440 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So why nobody picked that roster to play like that going into the season? They didn’t have nowhere close to the best roster. They don’t have an elite guy at any of the positions they say are the most important besides qb. Who’s at edge, corner, wr, OT were being rotated in and out and mark andrews wasn’t there. They played the best most of the season vs expectations but that roster didn’t even compare to SF or Philly roster. Browns had a better roster. Dallas had a better roster

    • @Lionheart10182
      @Lionheart10182 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@coreyjones1440 the ravens roster was one of the most hyped roster of the season. They have all pros at multiple positions and didn’t have any glaring weaknesses, To argue the ravens didn’t have an elite roster is simply untrue, they held the chiefs to 17 points and lost… that’s on the OC , play calling , and QB

    • @kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589
      @kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The bengals will take the north ,;

    • @truthbearer7891
      @truthbearer7891 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Lionheart10182 Just having an elite defense doesn’t mean a team is expected to be a #1 seed. Patriots post Brady, Steelers post Big Ben, Browns, Broncos first year with Hackett, the list goes on in recent and all throughout modern history that is hardly the recipe that makes a team elite without great QB play. You also conveniently ignore that none of the pundit class picked the Ravens to even win the division let alone get the 1 seed. Lamar was supposed to struggle in more of a traditional offense, instead he led them to #2 scoring offense in the NFL when he was starter.

    • @Lionheart10182
      @Lionheart10182 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@truthbearer7891 When you have an an elite defense and decent offense , if you are a great QB you should have some Super Bowl expectations, The chiefs won the Super Bowl, with a CRAP receiving core , you need is an elite defense, good play calling and elite QB play, The ravens had all that UNTIL the AFC championship, which ,unfortunately was definity a choke, Mahomes with that ravens roster wins 9/10 times if you played 10 times.

  • @daedaejones5908
    @daedaejones5908 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't know shit about Joe or the Bengals.... that's crazy....

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cuz I forgot the Boyd left? Who give a crap. I’ve forgotten more about the Bengals than you know

  • @matthewgrice6902
    @matthewgrice6902 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    👍🏻

  • @oronmurphy3724
    @oronmurphy3724 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why???🤯🤡💯

  • @dewaynethompson8095
    @dewaynethompson8095 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This BS narrative sounds so stupid!!!! Us smart ones know how the media is trying to throw so much shade at Lamar and the Ravens!!!! Its so glaringly obvious!!!!! Lamar and the Ravens don't care about this BS talk!!!

  • @tonydisibio4236
    @tonydisibio4236 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is Not Fair, Your Asking the Reigning M V P to Go into Arrowhead Stadium on Sept 5, and GO UP AGAINST the Best QB on Earth, and who is going for a Historic Goal in 2024, One that has never been Done - EVER in NFL History. With 70,000 Delirious Fans, and 40 Million Watching around the World, and Somehow Take a Lead in the 4th QTR, and Hold it till the The clock Says 00:00, Because only then will he Know he is SAFE. Is that Fair ????

    • @78LedHead
      @78LedHead 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Reigning MVP don't amount to much if you're terrible when it matters most. I'd be thinking about a replacement if he does it again and he will unless he screws that head on straight.

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How burrow went into arrowhead in the afc championship game & won. Stop with the excuses! Get it done

    • @truthbearer7891
      @truthbearer7891 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@78LedHead Mahomes is the only QB under 30 with a ring. Everyone else who failed to do so had a moment where they didn’t play their best when it mattered the most. But predictably not the same energy.
      Regardless ppl like you gonna be in shambles when Lamar with King Henry domaines the postseason

  • @Ok-Mardy
    @Ok-Mardy 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Spot on analysis on Lamar and the Ravens Stink!

    • @78LedHead
      @78LedHead 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He might be the only one I've heard telling the truth about them.

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Facts 😆 🤣 lamar is a choke artist

    • @ColinFlynn1665
      @ColinFlynn1665 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ShinefortheCam 87.5% of the QBs in the league are choke artists...

  • @excaliburofthelevant5750
    @excaliburofthelevant5750 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mark Schlereth nickname is Stink 😂😂😂😂

  • @tjayd1225
    @tjayd1225 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It’s time for the media to start holding Lamar accountable. He’s got 7 turnovers and 6 touchdowns in the playoffs and is below .500. He shrinks when competition levels rises. It can’t always be the coaches fault with him, they blamed the last oc on the problems

    • @JAmCaM212
      @JAmCaM212 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly.

    • @78LedHead
      @78LedHead 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He crumples up but then acts cocky to compensate. Some of the worst demeanor/body language I've ever seen - like shockingly poor - from a franchise leader of a football team. No accountability. He thinks it's everything but him.

    • @kennethgriggs7951
      @kennethgriggs7951 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thats all they do its lamars fault when they lose no matter how bad anyone else plays or how horrible the coaches where.

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@kennethgriggs7951no they don't yall trash fans& coaches make excuses for that mop

    • @ColinFlynn1665
      @ColinFlynn1665 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Beat 11 teams that had an above .500 record last year... but sure, he shrinks under pressure. Smh

  • @BlackfootBill
    @BlackfootBill 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    These obviously BIASED takes are getting old. Mark is a relic and has always been a Lamar Hater. He is friends with Bill Polian and previously stated that the 2X MVP should've changed positions from QB. He admits that the coaching changes for the offense in big playoff games is questionable but then blames the losses on Lamar.

  • @dewaynethompson8095
    @dewaynethompson8095 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2 gossiping women!!!

  • @FabKoj-rf5kj
    @FabKoj-rf5kj 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No pressure for lamar cus ddep down hes just a RB playing the qb position and he obviously overrated af!!

    • @ColinFlynn1665
      @ColinFlynn1665 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Gotta love weirdos like you. You make me laugh

    • @FabKoj-rf5kj
      @FabKoj-rf5kj 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ColinFlynn1665you must be a cowboys fans!!

    • @ColinFlynn1665
      @ColinFlynn1665 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FabKoj-rf5kj Nope. Not even close

  • @600flo4
    @600flo4 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They will say the bills are failing Josh Allen then say Lamar is failing the Ravens 😂😂 As a Black Athlete we used to it , Lamar get it’s the worst, if Allen had just 1 MVP and it was Unanimous they would glaze and glaze and glaze

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah mahomes is black. He's doing fine

    • @kennethgriggs7951
      @kennethgriggs7951 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ShinefortheCam no he is mixed

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lamar is awesome, but his playoff record is poor… He is under 500 winning percentage completing only 57% of his passes 6TD and 6 interceptions. Teams play them in the playoffs to make Lamar beat them from the pocket and he hasn’t.
      Those are facts has nothing to do with the color of a skin!

  • @johnnybassman1644
    @johnnybassman1644 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Sorry but the Browns are winning the division

  • @elbacono
    @elbacono 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Mark is absolutely clueless.

    • @StinkinTruthPodcast
      @StinkinTruthPodcast  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I bet I know more than you

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hes forgot more football than u know

    • @elbacono
      @elbacono 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ShinefortheCam whatever he still remembers is old head irrelevant stuff

  • @ShinefortheCam
    @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lamar missed 10 games! Joe burrow missed 13. If burrow injury prone, so it's lamar! Difference is joe been paying behind a bad oline. Lamar line been elite every season he's played except 2021. Lamar has elite coaches, elite defense, elite tight ends, elite rb's, elite oline. Even elite special teams. The rat birds benefitted from every single afc north starting qb going down in 2023 & multiple other qbs & team injuries! & they still choked & couldnt get it done. Lamar deserves all the pressure he's getting

    • @bonesawisready2865
      @bonesawisready2865 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sound like a typical idiotic bungles fan. Lamar Jackson owns that poverty ass franchise

    • @ColinFlynn1665
      @ColinFlynn1665 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This just shows you know nothing. Ravens offensive coaching staff was inept from 2020-2022. In 2021 the Ravens had the worst pass defense and the 19th best scoring defense. In the second half 2020 and 2021, the Ravens o-line was a bottom 10 offensive line. In 2021, our week 1 starting RBs were Ty'son Williams, Latavius Murray (who had only been on the team for 1 week), and Devonta Freeman... In 2022 our RBs were 2 people coming off of torn ACLs. And tell me, what exactly has Joe Burrow done? Like are you proud he made it to the Super Bowl and lost?

  • @goke313
    @goke313 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Most pressure its Lamar, Burrow, and Allen

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Burrow is under no pressure. He resurrected the bengals & has more than double of lamar playoff wins. He's fine

  • @gj5990
    @gj5990 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such hype for a choker in the playoffs. So what if he’s amazing in regular season? It’s the Dak of the AFC and it’s sad because he has potential to go far. His head won’t let him.

    • @ColinFlynn1665
      @ColinFlynn1665 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Everybody besides Mahomes is a choker in the playoffs...

  • @kwhitevuu99
    @kwhitevuu99 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Lamar doesn't have the WR talent

    • @carlosnabor7183
      @carlosnabor7183 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lamar doesn't have the throwing talent! Just the truth

    • @kwhitevuu99
      @kwhitevuu99 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@carlosnabor7183 then why does he lead in every passer rating category? Why does he have a top 3 scoring offense since 2019 and never has a healthy rb or offensive line or WR’s or TE’s? Why does he sit out most 4th quarters with a blowout? Why is he on his 3rd OC and still winning MVP’s. Why is he able to do this with less talent around him than other players?
      Lamar jackson is the greatest QB in NFL history. He hasn’t even played with the best talent around him.

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@kwhitevuu99 he had like 24 passing tds last season 😂😂 Josh Allen had 50 tds

    • @kwhitevuu99
      @kwhitevuu99 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ShinefortheCam Lamar didn't play 4th quarters last season. They also handed the ball to gus Edwards for short TD runs.

    • @silent1759
      @silent1759 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kwhitevuu99 lmao he can't even throw for 4k yards...stop it. He's a average passer and his playoff stats show exactly that.

  • @williamkjdarden
    @williamkjdarden 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    funny a two time mvp 1 vote shy of a 2nd unanimous mvp has the most pressure (after being in a brand new offense and took them to the afc championship). but joe burrow doesn't. that doesn't sound right. no pressure for Justin Herbert, or josh Allen? why non of them. Lamar has been the first and last option on his team for over 5 years. while the others have been given every weapon on both sides of the ball and neither has had a super bowl. let alone being the best player in the league. very funny. accolades don't matter to people who just are blind to what they like.

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He shouldn't of been mvp. Shouldve been Josh Allen

    • @ShinefortheCam
      @ShinefortheCam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yall so jealous of joe burrow

    • @williamkjdarden
      @williamkjdarden 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ShinefortheCam you can't give the mvp to someone who led the leauge in interceptions. 1 and two they took the ball out his hands at the second half of the season and won inspire of Allen

    • @williamkjdarden
      @williamkjdarden 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ShinefortheCam nobody is jealous but you gotta see the bias going on here from more than one person who dodges negative light every single year and thinks it's OK to highlight others who are not supposed to be in conversation. Joe burrow is a good qb we have seen 100 times in our life. He's good but let's not get ahead of our self like we jealous.

    • @williamkjdarden
      @williamkjdarden 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Inspite

  • @yngbrew9032
    @yngbrew9032 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This guys is a Lamar hater since day one. He is just as bad as Bill Pollian

  • @78LedHead
    @78LedHead 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm sick of hearing how elite Lamar is. He crumbles in the playoffs. That last playoff loss? This isn't hyperbole..... I've never in my life seen such Pss poor body language. It reminded me of Jerry Jeudy at his worst, acting a fool over Steve Smith's critique. Not 1 for 1, but similar vibes.
    It's like Lamar got completely exposed which in turn made him fake cocky? Idk what it was but it was disturbing, embarrassing, and horrible demeanor for a supposed leader. It made me rethink him. Not a fan and you'd have to be terrified deep down as a Ravens fan. Lamar gave up in that game and I'm glad to hear someone finally question him.

    • @wc6046
      @wc6046 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Surely you wouldn’t be the type to praise guys like Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan, two notorious playoff chokers, and then turn around and criticize Lamar, right? Because that wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense

    • @Finnissee0122
      @Finnissee0122 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The last playoff lost was to a dynasty that just repeated.

    • @78LedHead
      @78LedHead 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Finnissee0122 Those turnovers were Jameis Winston-esque. Rookie level QB play.

    • @abdihassan328
      @abdihassan328 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@78LedHead⚪️🗑️

    • @kingroyalty9621
      @kingroyalty9621 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What playoff was Burrow/Herbert/ or Lawrence in last year ? 🤔 shouldn’t they be the ones under the most pressure ? Are they not 3 highest paid players in the league ? Didn’t they all get hurt ? Last year the narrative was “RUnning QBs get injured” and they need to be available in order to be elite …none of the above names were available!

  • @TheKickenWING
    @TheKickenWING 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lamar has missed a start or more in every season SMH

    • @attitudepoplll2292
      @attitudepoplll2292 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Itee bro now u need to stop bro he’s only missed two seasons the back half of those season due to non crazy injuries the others times he sat because his team had the number one seed or won their division like stop going with what everyone is saying

    • @TheKickenWING
      @TheKickenWING 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@attitudepoplll2292 Feel free to list all the excuses why Lamar missed a start or more in 2018,2019,2020,2021,2022 and 2023. But it doesn’t change the FACT that Lamar has missed a start or more in every season SMH

    • @455silverwater
      @455silverwater 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@TheKickenWING lol he's missed 1 game I'm 2020 due to knee injury..and played the rest of the season. 2021, 2022 are the seasons he missed the last 4- 6 games of the season. 2018, 2019, 2023 no games missed...what are you talking about lol

    • @TheKickenWING
      @TheKickenWING 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@455silverwater FALSE! Please FACT check yourself SMH. 2018 only started 7 games SMH. 2019 and 2023 missed the second matchup vs the Steelers. Yes it’s a FACT that Lamar has missed a start or more in every season since entering the NFL SMH

    • @455silverwater
      @455silverwater 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheKickenWING lol he missed those games in 2019 and 23 because harbaugh sat the starters..lol the had already clinched and won the division.