Thanks! Glad you found it helpful. 😃 What I forgot to mention in the video is that when you drop the images onto the map, when you export images from dt with metadata, the geo location info will be included in the expected jpegs, which is neat. You can exclude that from happening though, in cases where privacy is an issue.
Thanks! I like your rating system. I've struggled with devising one that is consistent where one or two stars mean the same thing at the beginning of the rating session as at the end.
It's always fascinating to explore workflows!!! You've been very clear, as usual. Never played with the map; will try! I learned with you how to use DT as manager some years ago but I still struggle to tag my collection (and never really started to back-tag my jpgs from before DT; I've lost edits&else when I moved away from Picasa… 😔)
As I've said in the past, the sooner you get started with tagging, the better. It will always be a monster of a task when you first begin, but the longer you wait, the worse it will get. Best to bite the bullet and get started.
Glad it was helpful! The thing I forgot to mention is that once you've added your images to the map, you can include geo-location data in the metadata of the exported images.
Hi Bruce, well indeed it was worth the waiting 🙂I use Darktable a long time now, but mainly used this for editing the photo's. I'm going to use this for my photo collection on my total storage backup server. Thank you soo much for the detailed information, I love it !!!
Thanks. Really, for me, there's no difference. I can, 99% of the time, get a finished image directly from the RAW file without going to an external pixel-based editor (like Gimp, or Affinity Photo).
Oh, you mean when do I use duplicates? All. The. Time! Whenever I want to do a new process on an image I've previously developed, I always create a duplicate (these days). Because I've noticed how my processing has improved since 2018, so now I keep all the old edits so I can see how I've progressed.
Hi can I ask a newbie question? Before I do I'm loving your tutorials and they are a great help because I've moved off LR and Windows and onto Linux and [am beginning] Darktable. At 1:04 you import with default naming rules. Why do you choose to leave the default naming by date etc? Will I lose something later on if I named my collection e.g. Holiday Santorini?
Look, it's entirely a matter of personal preference. There's no right or wrong here. I prefer to leave my folders in date form, and then add tags to every image. If I tag all my images, then I can always find any image by searching based on tags. If you want to name your folders by where you were or what you were doing, go for it! No, you won't lose anything by doing that.
Ah I see the difference. By modifying the naming rules it changes the name of the actual folder that gets created. I guess like most folk my photos are stored in folders by date. And your method leaves that folder structure in place and leverages DT collections. Thanks I'm straight now!
Wow! Amazing tips. I am just reorganizing my library of over 2 TB of photos (since I was terrible and never bothered to keep things organized). I guess the rest of 2025 will be me culling my photos.
Creating a structured collection can be a very daunting task if you've already got a large collection that is not well managed. But spending the time to get it in order will reap rewards down the track that you can't even imagine right now. You know that old Buddhist saying... "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time time is today". That applies here! 😃
@@audio2u I know you make yourself quite vulnerable because you share so openly. Would you be prepared to outline your tagging hierarchy if and when you make a tagging video? I realise that there are many ways to approach the matter but I think I tend to create too many layers in my hierarchy. From the short bits shown your approach seems very workable.
Hi Bruce, what directory structure are you using? Is it year/month/day or year/month only? How do you manage the pictures made using different cameras? Do they have their own dirs? Directories for raw and processed pictures? Directories for different variants (resolution for print / web, different processing etc)? It would be great to know that.
My folder structure is "exif.year/exif.month/exif.year-exif.month-exif.day/" All images are stored in the folder for the day in which they were shot (hence why the correct time being set in-camera is so important!), using their original in-camera filename. No, I don't rename my files. No, I don't bother with sorting images by camera, because you can filter a collection quite easily if you really need to see just the images from one camera (I can see why you might do that a lot of you shot weddings and your second shooter uses a different camera). No, I don't have folders for exported images, as I generally don't import my exports. That's the whole point of shooting RAW. I can always run a fresh export when necessary for different resolution or file type etc. As for different variants of an image, that's where I use the duplicate manager. I name duplicates according to their purpose. And I have saved export presets for all my common export jobs (Facebook, wallpaper, Insta, etc).
@@audio2u Hi Bruce, thanks for sharing your workflow in this video. I understand you do not rename files. Should you have to do that, how would you fit that in your workflow? I do rename, generally after development is done and right before exporting. Currently for me it's a pretty simple task in LR, trying to understand how that could be done efficiently in darktable as darktable does not have a file manager.
Instead of importing images i find it easier to create a folder structure myself like /2024/10-00_Oktober for general images that month and /2024/10-10_Aurora for an event and then adding those folders to darktable.
Thankyou, Bruce. Useful! you obviously need to visit my home country in South America! 🙂
Totally! 😃
Hi Bruce, super interesting tips! I never knew about the map before. Thank you very much! Greetings Rainer
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful. 😃 What I forgot to mention in the video is that when you drop the images onto the map, when you export images from dt with metadata, the geo location info will be included in the expected jpegs, which is neat. You can exclude that from happening though, in cases where privacy is an issue.
Happy New Year, Bruce! 🎉 Looking forward to your V5.0 videos 😊
Same to you! It's coming along.... In about 45 min for you and the other patrons. 😃
Thanks! I like your rating system. I've struggled with devising one that is consistent where one or two stars mean the same thing at the beginning of the rating session as at the end.
Yeah, it's always a bit of a work in progress, to be honest! 😃
As usual, lots of pithy, useful content. Thank you. Hope you had a great holiday.
Thanks. Marred by a bout of covid, but other than that, it was great.
This may be your most helpful video yet, and that's really saying something.
Haha. Thank you for the kind words!
It's always fascinating to explore workflows!!! You've been very clear, as usual. Never played with the map; will try! I learned with you how to use DT as manager some years ago but I still struggle to tag my collection (and never really started to back-tag my jpgs from before DT; I've lost edits&else when I moved away from Picasa… 😔)
As I've said in the past, the sooner you get started with tagging, the better. It will always be a monster of a task when you first begin, but the longer you wait, the worse it will get. Best to bite the bullet and get started.
Happy New Year Bruce! Your videos are always useful for me! Thanks.
No problem. Happy New Year!
Thanks for the map tip!!
Glad it was helpful! The thing I forgot to mention is that once you've added your images to the map, you can include geo-location data in the metadata of the exported images.
Dear Bruce, thank you for this use- and helpfull video.
Wish you a Happy New Year full of health.
Many thanks. Happy New Year!
Great Video! There are many functions that I don´t know yet. Thank you!!!!
Glad it was helpful! 😃
Hi Bruce, well indeed it was worth the waiting 🙂I use Darktable a long time now, but mainly used this for editing the photo's. I'm going to use this for my photo collection on my total storage backup server. Thank you soo much for the detailed information, I love it !!!
Glad to hear that it was helpful!
Excellent! if your are ever in the City in Perth feel free to go for a coffee!
Thanks for the offer!
Brilliant
Thanks.
Great workflow vid.I was wondering when do you create a copy for the editing and when you just edit the raw file directly?
Thanks. Really, for me, there's no difference. I can, 99% of the time, get a finished image directly from the RAW file without going to an external pixel-based editor (like Gimp, or Affinity Photo).
@@audio2uI was thinking of the duplicates you can create in DT.
Oh, you mean when do I use duplicates? All. The. Time!
Whenever I want to do a new process on an image I've previously developed, I always create a duplicate (these days). Because I've noticed how my processing has improved since 2018, so now I keep all the old edits so I can see how I've progressed.
@@audio2uclever! Think I'll adapt this way of editing on duplicates.
Hi can I ask a newbie question? Before I do I'm loving your tutorials and they are a great help because I've moved off LR and Windows and onto Linux and [am beginning] Darktable. At 1:04 you import with default naming rules. Why do you choose to leave the default naming by date etc? Will I lose something later on if I named my collection e.g. Holiday Santorini?
Look, it's entirely a matter of personal preference. There's no right or wrong here. I prefer to leave my folders in date form, and then add tags to every image. If I tag all my images, then I can always find any image by searching based on tags.
If you want to name your folders by where you were or what you were doing, go for it! No, you won't lose anything by doing that.
Ah I see the difference. By modifying the naming rules it changes the name of the actual folder that gets created. I guess like most folk my photos are stored in folders by date. And your method leaves that folder structure in place and leverages DT collections. Thanks I'm straight now!
Glad I could help!
Hi Bruce, At some point could you do a more in depth video on tagging. How to manage, add or remove images from tags. Thanks
Sure thing!
Wow! Amazing tips. I am just reorganizing my library of over 2 TB of photos (since I was terrible and never bothered to keep things organized). I guess the rest of 2025 will be me culling my photos.
Creating a structured collection can be a very daunting task if you've already got a large collection that is not well managed.
But spending the time to get it in order will reap rewards down the track that you can't even imagine right now.
You know that old Buddhist saying... "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time time is today".
That applies here! 😃
@@audio2u I know you make yourself quite vulnerable because you share so openly. Would you be prepared to outline your tagging hierarchy if and when you make a tagging video? I realise that there are many ways to approach the matter but I think I tend to create too many layers in my hierarchy. From the short bits shown your approach seems very workable.
Did you use darktable or a separate software/service for creating your photo book?
I use an Australian company called photobookshop.com.au
They do an amazing job.
@@audio2u ahh perfect, thanks. I'm Australian as well, so like to support local where I can.
Hi Bruce, what directory structure are you using? Is it year/month/day or year/month only? How do you manage the pictures made using different cameras? Do they have their own dirs? Directories for raw and processed pictures? Directories for different variants (resolution for print / web, different processing etc)? It would be great to know that.
My folder structure is "exif.year/exif.month/exif.year-exif.month-exif.day/"
All images are stored in the folder for the day in which they were shot (hence why the correct time being set in-camera is so important!), using their original in-camera filename. No, I don't rename my files.
No, I don't bother with sorting images by camera, because you can filter a collection quite easily if you really need to see just the images from one camera (I can see why you might do that a lot of you shot weddings and your second shooter uses a different camera).
No, I don't have folders for exported images, as I generally don't import my exports. That's the whole point of shooting RAW. I can always run a fresh export when necessary for different resolution or file type etc.
As for different variants of an image, that's where I use the duplicate manager. I name duplicates according to their purpose. And I have saved export presets for all my common export jobs (Facebook, wallpaper, Insta, etc).
@@audio2uThanks 😊
@@audio2u Hi Bruce, thanks for sharing your workflow in this video. I understand you do not rename files. Should you have to do that, how would you fit that in your workflow? I do rename, generally after development is done and right before exporting. Currently for me it's a pretty simple task in LR, trying to understand how that could be done efficiently in darktable as darktable does not have a file manager.
Danke für die Aktivierung der Übersetzung auf Deutsch.
That wasn't me. That is a new feature that TH-cam has introduced. Glad you find it helpful.
Instead of importing images i find it easier to create a folder structure myself like /2024/10-00_Oktober for general images that month and /2024/10-10_Aurora for an event and then adding those folders to darktable.
Fair enough. Whatever works for each person, right? 😃