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rFactor 2 - The BEST GTE Cars in Sim Racing?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- The long-awaited GTE balance-of-performance (BoP) update has finally arrived to rFactor 2. We test all the GTE cars in the game - is it the improvement we've been waiting for?
0:00 Start
1:04 Ferrari 488 GTE
5:39 Porsche 991 RSR GTE
13:02 Chevrolet Corvette C7.R GTE
17:02 BMW M8 GTE
21:57 Aston Martin Vantage GTE
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I done the same test yesterday and managed 1.10.1xx on every car. Loving the new RF2 content, I'm glad they finished the dash displays on the GTE's hopefully they will do the same with the GT3's.
This is my favorite sim by far, but man they need to drop those prices on the DLCs.
It’s on sale rn plus I think the pricing is good compared to iracing
If you need most of the content, the current sale is pretty nice. They really overhauled it to cater to new players/people with little or no DLC. Maybe a smart move, but it sucks for me lol. Regardless, you just have to grab DLC here and there. Get something now, something on Black Friday, something in Winter sale, etc. I only have most of the content now after a handful of sales.
Agreed. I don't own any of the new paid content, and no matter how interested I am in it, it's just too steep for me to buy at present.
@@RubberStig If you like AMS the Reiza pack is $11 for 6 cars and 4 tracks. Or the endurance bundle is 7 awesome cars for $12. Honestly idk how those could be seen as overpriced or even expensive.
and the GT3 pack is 11 cars for $17. Tracks are most expensive at $21 for 4 tracks. Amazing tracks btw. It's really not bad during the sale. Everything together is expensive, sure, but that's why you go piecemeal. There will be another sale in a few months.
If the function of a "SIMULATOR" is to best replicate the action or experience of a specific activity then rFactor's Force Feedback, physics, and tire model makes it thee best possible "non-professional" simulated race driving platform available IMHO. Since I mostly race offline against AI or online on league servers i'm not bothered much by the limited 24/7 multiplayer options.
I just got it on steam for 15usd and im in love. It really brings the old fanatec to life.
Really nice comparison, thanks for the time to create this! Would love to see your approach to setting up the GTEs in RF2 ... I'm new to the sim after spending a decent amount of time with ACC and iRacing, and would definitely enjoy hearing your thoughts on at least your favorite GTEs and the new BOP with more seat time. Every driver really needs his/her own setup, so it's less important to know exactly what numbers you're dialing in and more interesting to hear your real-time observations about how setup changes affect how the car responds to your inputs. Great stuff, thanks again!
Im slowly building a car for a local race series in the pnw and i absolutely love portland international. It would be absolutely epic to get pacific raceways and the ridge motorsports park next! All of those pnw tracks are epic to drive on.
Really cool video Ermin! I really enjoyed watching it. I'd be interested in seeing how quick you can make these things go on the same circuit with your setups - that would give a good basis for comparison to the default setups.
I look forward to watching the race here with the GTEs you mentioned as well :-)
Great to see that rF2 is coming back
Ermin good one as usaul . Looking forward to your next update with my favourite sim rfactor 2. Xo...
the RSR is mid engined, now. not rear engine. since 2017. but anyway, good video. and yes, I also noticed that the RSR sounded different than before the 24h of Le Mans Virtual. I just wish that S397 could add the Ford GT LM. I know there's the URD one, but let's be real. who wants to get paid 3rd party content for any games nowadays? (I would since I have it :P )
..Portland holds many fond memories as a favourite in Indycar2, so many hours on this classic!...just tried a quick Radical race, So fun! 👏🏻😎🏁
Set up videos would be a great help and much appreciated, especially for the Porsche 911 RSR GTE and the Ferrari 488 GTE ;-)
Run an Indycar here, they are incredible. The IndyCar drivers say the right hander after the chicane is one of the hardest turns they deal with all season.
Nice video, yes testing the gte cars at a track you know very well would be good. I LOVE GTE cars, and I miss a good sim with them in it. Debating on R factor 2.
Track is like a baby Sebring. Loving rF2 getting this polished content. I hope they polish all their stock content like this then it will be very cool...then all they need to do is drop prices on DLC.
GTE is probably my least favorite GT / tin top class. It’s the same experience as driving a GT3 just with a slightly higher top speed and no assists, which makes them really twitchy and unmanageable typically. The rf2 GTE’s are probably my favorite though, especially the Ferrari which is just fantastic.
It’s nice that they are adjusting the BOP and fixing up the older content, but what I would really like more than anything would be if they could do something to fix the multiplayer situation and actually fix the UI for things like creating custom championships, setting up AI fields, hosting servers, driver swaps, etc., instead of taking a year plus to do a simple re-skin...
I love rf2 but no amount of great content is going to make up for the deficiencies in core functionality that stop the game from being meaningful competition for the more popular racing sims.
same here.....i only like the prototypes in Endurance, and their is no goddamn LMP1 innit....and as a Super GT fan i want rf2 to get in those monsters in the game.....
Great vid Ermin. I’ve been saving up for a good DD setup and this will be my first foray
Yes, do a vid on setups for the cars.
Keep up the good work. 😊👍
Great video, can't wait for the setup videos especially for the porsche & M8 I love driving the Porsche but need to make it more stable, love the look of the M8 but struggle to get it to turn in how i want & have the same issue with the M6 GT3 on ACC.
Your turn in to turn 7 is just a tad early. Hold it to the 100 marker. Great vid!
Please do setups I enjoy your content and I learn more about the GTE class
That Porsche wheel looks like a toy out of cartoon ...
Portland! I'm really enjoying this. reminds me of a mix of Sebring and Monza. I've so far only run F179s kn it, but they felt great there, even though it was ridiculous snaking through the "club racer" paddock area with F1 cars!
Thats where the Indy cars garage area is. The "club" car pits are on the other side of the front straightaway. pit in is in the middle of turn 9 and 10, pit out is the drag strip on the front straight.
Still can't believe S397 didn't bundle the Ferrari with the Endurance or GT3 packs. I was up for buying the packs in the sales but that tore it.
££££
You're really good at commentary and definitely have the voice for it. I hope a TV station signs you soon to present a car show.
Thank you, but our boy Jimmer already has that market cornered quite well.
We will do a GT3 update too, so you might want to hold off on that video ;)
See, what the community will want there is a direct comparison to ACC. Not sure if I'm ready to ignite that powder keg! Very much appreciate your & the team's work.
Thanks for making the best sim better!
@@Ermz as you know we are working on the Ferrari 488 GT3 (which will be based on the very latest 2020 model) so that should be a nice comparison. The other 11 GT3 cars will get some physics updates too. I guess an extensive head to head could take you at least a couple of videos! Btw, your comments on the default setups for these GTE cars were right, we'll rework them in an update.
@@MarcelOffermans I'm sure people will appreciate that a lot. If there's anything I've learned doing this, it's that a lot of guys just want to get in and race, so they like sims where the default setups get them 90% of the way there.
@@MarcelOffermans Hi Marcel - any way to get in touch with you re: that GT3 update, and 488 in particular?
Hi there. You mentioned doing some video setting up these GTEs. I would like that a lot, specially how's your processo/method doing so. Thanks!
Ermin Hamidovic, the best intro in sim-racing?
It is good. The fact that E and H overlap so nicely with a 6-speed.. I mean he couldn't have picked better initials.
Enjoyed your video, I have been testing camber across the board with settings closer to 2 with good lap time results and tire wear. I have not concluded high speed vs low speed tracks yet but feeling like high speed tracks are responding nicely to lower negative camber with better stability under braking. With that said, I have been working on “slow in, fast out” as opposed to the opposite which I am more inclined. Perhaps a better drive such as yourself can get better speed with more negative camber. My favorite car in RF2 is by far the Senna, then the 2012 F1 and a little further down, the C7R. I have not tried the new release GTE corvette yet but from what I saw in your vid, still a lot of default slop that can be cleaned up in the set up. I have a C7 in real life so I kinda force myself to like it in the virtual. What is pretty cool about that is how accurately it matches real life car characteristics in sound, front end push and a little snappy in the rear. Just hit subscribe
The display works now too!
You mentioned you hadn't driven Portland before. Here's a hint you won't pick up following the ai: you can entirely cut that first corner over the curbs. Watch any real race here and you'll see cars an inch away from that inner wall.
Same with the turn 10/11 chicane, if you're on the tarmac you're doing it wrong. It's pretty common to not only drive right over the curbs but even hit the dirt.
You never seen Days of Thunder? 'A loose car is a fast car'. I get all my knowledge from Cole Trickle and Harry Hogge.
Nice Words, We all love the sounds of cars so maybe a question what sound cards are you using ?
Great timing with this vid Ermin, i eventually bought the game with the endurance pack and the track pack with sebring etc.So far so good but struggling to hit a god visual/performance setting.I have a high spec PC that runs all my games and sims ultra settings 120+ fps @ 1440P 14hz but not so with rf2, rain and or night are especially poor.
Other than that im really enjoying, i never thought anything would pull me away from ACC but AMS2 did, will rf2 do the same? time will tell :) great vid.
Performance issues fixed, loving it, rf2 along with AMS2 and ACC im sorted for a long time.
Disliked the layout of the track, at first. But I had run a couple races on the no chicane layout a while back and really started to love it, especially the first section. Really tricky to get the multi-apex correct, especially in a 911 Cup car.
That low camber setting is commensurate with what I would expect. Wait, no it's not. I don't know. I just wanted to say that phrase.
I'm struglling to make a decent setup for the AM....
The C7 was completely underivable before the BOP.. I haven’t tried since this new BOP
Yeah, running the cars with a custum setup is a good idea to get the most out of them for a good comparisment.
Nothing better than a good comparisment.
Cool comparison. With GTE going I need to get on a real sim and enjoy them soon
I've only tested the Audi 2019 on this track and so far managed consistent 10.3s, I expect the GTEs with some setup work to be 1.5 secs faster. If not then the GT3s need to be nerfed a lil
Key to endurance is consistency. If you're not comfortable in it you'll end up looping it on a long stint. Seems like the Aston and Corvette are bad in that respect.
dam, just bought some dlc and then the put stuff in the sale! the bundles they have on sale should be as standard price .
-3 camber seems a bit exreme. i'm no performance car expert. but I did drop my first car on coils. Natural camber was around -3 and it was pretty cambered in (little contact between road and tyre) .
Not for a race track and GTE car though... especially at a track with tight turns like Portland
This is all very well, but still no where to jump in and have a race like ACC and others, how long do we have to wait !!!
Can't wait for the race
Awesome video mate, love your work and always enjoy a good Ermin RF2 YT video. Just FYI man, the RSR variant of the 911 is infact mid-engined. The GTE regs allowed them to swap the engine and GB around. This looks like it handles like a cup car now...why S397?..why?
Portland is just mega. Love this track.
"You can't argue with the quality of the content itself" - True but my loathing of the UI as a VR user makes me avoid booting this in favour for other lesser racing titles.
Yeah i feel the same. Even the Beta UI is confusing and less informative. I bought RF2 around a month ago and due to its mixture of dev and 3rd party content from steam, it can get real messy and I don't drive it as much as i'd like..
Same thing with ACC for me!
@@guiltyspark3823 Yeah ACC is not as bad IMO - I can at least get into a race without leaving my cockpit. I do hate the assumption that all cockpits are one and the same with your desk area (therefore close to mouse and keyboard). It's a greater issue with VR as a whole that too little thought is put into UI and like PC2 it should not be dependant on KB&M - the number of times I've just had an hour to play and after f#####g around for 45 minutes feel myself raging because I've had to keep getting in and out of my cockpit (I know first world problems)
@Brian Prior Yeah I did explore that option but instead try to use voice commands as much as possible (via Voice Attack) - given most of us have mics a voice standard would be great (to aid with anything that needs to be typed) combined with a move you mouse cursor with where you're looking (like PC2). This is mostly possible within Voice Attack but my God it's quite a time investment
I just bought this game and having trouble setting it up with vr. Is there a way to resize the hud when in the car or completely remove it? And is there a way to reduce the g-force effect when braking or accelerating?
rF2 for all things GTE, LMP2 and LMP3.
Nice 👍
So for the Porsche GTE I'll. have to tweak abs traction
I didnt want 2 subscribe bc this is the first video I watch on your chanel but as soon as you said 488 is your favourite GT well that changed
Will you please show your setup on this car?
Can u tell me a good starting point for tire pressure in RF2? Just started playing this game. Love your videos. Very helpful
Oh I forgot to ask ... Maybe the Aston's your new favorite and you just don't know it yet?!? Get that rotation under control and you might dig it... just sayin' :)
Rfactor 2 was my favourite sim before I got VR, now since it doesn't have proper lock to horizon I can't run it at all without getting a splitting headache - it's such a shame with all the great content 397 puts out
You should tell them on their steam forums if they read feedback there.
Hey great stuff .. curious to see what in game and wheel settings you’re using for the DD1, I’m using a DD2 and struggling a wee bit ..
Im using DD2 my settings are ff55..linearity on..ndpr 50...friction.05....inertia 5....ffb interpolation 05.......ffb intensity 70.force effect 70.....spring 30.........damper effect 30...bli 90......shock vib 90 in game settings are min torque 0....ffb multi 0.7. smoothing 1.... Bear in mind its a matter of taste and all cars feel different but this should be a good start. sensitivity is per car.Hope this helps.
Does anyone know how much URD updates their cars? I know it's older now, but the Ford would be a great complement to this pack if it has similar lap times.
Stephen Putnick all the URD packs for RF2 are amazing! I own all of them and they are incredible. I honestly couldn’t tell you about BOP for the Ford gt compared to s397 GTE. They haven’t updated any URD RF2 packs in a long while, like early 2019 I believe.
@@jamesleegte ok great info thanks man.
Stephen Putnick if you buy the endurance pack in the P1 class, adjust power coast and pump to 90% as a starting point. If you leave in default the car constantly spins. It took me hours to suss out when I first bought that pack. DTM 2018 is incredible too !
yeah the game looks cool but cocpit shaking is looks little bit weird like an arcade game. Anyway i would like to play this game but there is no any online rank or licence system. i am driving on iRacing
As someone who already has a lot of rF2 content, this sale is a huge bust. I think it's time I check out my friend's recommendation and try BeamNG.
rFactor and BeamNG are not comparable. Two entirely different games.
@@ramborigs oh yeah I know that. I wasn't comparing them and my bad if it sounded that way. I just wanted to buy something during the steam sale, and I was really bummed about rF2.
R4 music? subscribed.
How do you get such good looking graphics? My rf2 is so aqua blue looking compared to your video.
End of Oct 2023 they still are and with a huge margin
Bought RF2 on sale yesterday, have T300rs wheel, but have to say I was so disappointed with the FFB. Coming from playing AMS2 it feels lifeless. There seems to be little changes you can make in the FFB settings. I am hoping I am doing something wrong as I want to love this game. Is it only good on DD wheels?
rendrag72 minimum torque 0.5, get smoothing as low as possible without your wheel making horrible clunking noises, I run 0 - 2 in smoothing dependent on the mod maker and strength multiplier again go as low as you can, my default for most cars is 0.79, URD mods 0.49 and Tommy78 mods 0.89. Hope this works for you! I use a csl elite PS4 edition and no other sim has feedback anywhere near as good as RF2. AC is close, but for me RF2 reigns supreme!
One other thing to add is always check your FFB settings before you leave the pits. RF2 only seems to remember settings per car livery. If you change livery, often the ffb settings wont be the same and default to 0 smoothing and 1.00 for strength. Always always check settings controls before you leave the pit garage
Check if you reduced the car multiplier. Must be done for each car, means each skin, individually. Go down to approx 0,8. Depends in the cars for sure.
forum.studio-397.com/index.php?threads/ffb-settings-for-t300.61966/
With my T300 I've put 100 in the wheel profile and 0.75 ffb with 0 smoothing and 4% minimum ffb in the game
It works great with that number for me so you could start with them.
I like how these cars feel and sounf. They also look pretty good during the day. But seeing these cars during the night is immersion breaking for me heavily. Like there are no shades of red, green, blue. Absolutely no reflection. Each color is just glowing in only one shade. What a shame.
My complaint with RFactor2 is that it a absolutely ruins all other sim title experiences. In my opinion, this game is so far and beyond better than anything else that I have a hard time enjoying any other sim. The physics, FFB, tire modeling, just everything is absolutely incredible. Great seeing continued updates and added content!
you plan to address the news that came out of the interview with the PC3 devs?
"TyRe MoDELInG Is bAD"
"wE nEeD No pItStOpS"
Rf2 is 1/3 of the price. Still worth to buy?
How long has it taken for people to realize that RF2 is the best simulator, I realized instantly, in 2012
RF2 is fun. Sure. But if I wanna race someone else, unfortunately rf2 isn't the place.
It was at one point, but now it’s highly debatable especially when other sims have matched and even surpassed rF2 in many areas. It gets harder to defend rF2 as time goes on.
i aint gonna lie the only reason i want this game is cause max verstappen plays it lol
In July 2022 they are
What GTE Mod is this?
After a few hundred hours in AMS 2 i've lost how i feel about rF2 FFB ! I just cant gel back into it even though i've got over 1000 hours in rF2 , not sure what has changed ! I know the AA has changed , it looks awful now , no settings make those fences at Portland smooth :(
Debating on getting rF2, already have AC ACC PC2 and A2 .
It feels the best but you'll find loads of annoyances and graphical inconsistencies, especially in vr where the driver looks like something out of a ps1 game. Be aware that there's lots of searching and downloading as some tracks aren't on the workshop.
Tryout base game w/o dlc packages.
It's the perfect time with the Steam sale. And they have really catered to new players with this one. If you're like me and already have a lot of the content, it's a huge bust. I recommend looking at the endurance bundle, GT3 pack, Reiza pack, and track expansion bundle. While it would probably see the least use in online racing, the Reiza pack for $11 is a steal IMO. 6 cars and 4 tracks (10 layouts total). All that + base game = $76 though. Even on sale, it's a lot. Personally, I built up most of the content over a few sales.
rF2 is different enough from all your other sims in the way it feels that I can't imagine not having it. The more time you spend with it, the more you appreciate it, I think. If you have a strong enough pc to handle ACC well, than rF2 should run smoothly enough for you, as some content isn't as well optimized.
Plus, the Steam sale!
I bought whilst on sale, also added the LeMan pack as well with the GTE cars.
Portland’s my neighborhood track. Some of the world’s best drivers raced there. Look it up on YT and you’ll see why it made it into rF2. It has a pretty solid past. It’s known as a fast track. Especially if you take out the chicane.
We had the Camel GT with GTP, GTO and GTU. Trans AM, Indy Cars and later on ALMS came. Then the track died. No professional series at all for many years. Only club racing, drag racing and driving school stuff. All the cry babies that moved here started complaining about noise they “might” have to hear for a couple hours a couple of days once a month for three months a year. Those are also the people who brought the culture of “cars evil and bad, bicycles good and safe” driving off the car culture that once thrived in this west coast city.
Like everything here in Portland nothing is sacred or in the US anything and everything from the past must be deleted. They wanted to build condos or apartments in the infield then turn the track into a mommy and stroller walking course.
Finally in 2018 some pro series returned. The Indy cars came back as well as the Pirelli World Challenge with GT3 cars. They probably won’t be here this year. It could actually kill the track for good.
Hi, by the way: what does one have to do to make RF2 load up with these graphics?
How do your graphics get so good? Is it a mod?
Might be the best force feedback and Physics, the overall experience is horrible, the interface is as complicated as it can be
What’s best graphic settings
i will hold off rf2 until they put in the Super GTs both gt500 and gt300....not a single sim has a proper SGT and its pathetic.....
Maybe the Aston is a GT3 not GTE. I don't have an Aston GTE in my GTE pack just Aston GT3?
The GTE Aston came in a different pack with the Senna GTR.
Would love to try rfactor 2 but iRacing already drained my wallet xd
Did you try the demo?
Bad choise
Another AMS track
All cars are capable of doing 1:08s on this layout. I checked.
Also RSR is NOT rear engined car.
No sim has ever gotten the 911 right
RF2 finally starting to have the looks of AC and ACC, but still, AC and ACC are the number 1 in simulation and driving pleasure.
I really, really wanted to like RF2, but I think the new tracks were the nails in the coffin for me. Before I go further, let me just say that I run it in VR, so I may be taking a graphical hit to some degree. However, when I fired up Portland last night and drove around, I found the track, the graphics and the whole experience to be very sterile. It looked like a video game the entire time with the monochromatic asphalt. Yes RF2 does feel good sometimes, if you're in a decently developed car, but the simplistic graphics, at least in VR, just pull me out of the experience.
I then tried the new Silverstone track, and was equally disappointed. Even upgraded, it is devoid of character. I completely understand that a racing game depends mainly on physics and racing as opposed to just graphics. Hell, otherwise we'd all be playing Forza 7. However, when the graphics are, in my opinion, that bad that it detracts from the sim, then that's something I can't get over.
For comparison, right after Silverstone in RF2, I pulled up the same track in Race Room. I haven't played Race Room a lot, but you can bet I am now. The difference was like night and day. It felt like I was actually at the track and there was atmosphere. Once I sorted the FFB, it was just a much more enjoyable experience than RF2. I tried out some other cars and tracks in RR and was equally impressed. RF2 was uninstalled last night. I wanted to like it, but it just did not do it for me. If you run VR and feel the same way, give RR a try for your single player sim racing needs.
PLACEonPLATE I like both, but raceroom is very good indeed an deserves more attention
Sorry, but not the right time for that thumbnail.
Why not? Oh snowflakes who whinge and whine. Gotcha
Chris S damn bro, who hurt you?
@@andreasgidske73 You're the one that seems hurt.
Please don't degrade sim racing by using that "MAGA" type shit slogan...I think, or at least hope that you are better than that.