Steve Poindexter actually did say that it was the 'slightly off' sample timing that he liked about it. I had a RZ-1, sampled the sounds to my MPC and gave it away. Then I missed that 'off' timing of the samples. So I offset the bass kick myself to get that real RZ-1 feel! LOL!!!
I have one, it cost £400 back in the mid 80s. You could do a kind of Depeche Mode, and sample metal clangs and bottle and spoon ting tings! You can have 4 very short samples, two samples double the length of the singles and that eye watering 1.6 second on one pad! If you EQ, distort etc the sounds, you can get a good sound from it, and even sample a 909/808 etc, but as he says, there is a tiny delay on impact of the buttons. The delay is caused by the way it samples. You set it to 'listen' for audio input, and once it detects a certain level, it samples it, but in doing so, you get the 'lead in' delay of a few milliseconds, but then again, the Linn had a similar sloppy timing, but it adds to the feel of certain tracks. It's a doddle to work.
great video, thanks! what do you think they're worth today? I inherited one in wonderful condition and once I sampled all the sounds into my EPS 16+ it's been sitting idle for quite some time while I wait to see some examples pop up on ebay so I know how to price it but no dice... I have an HR-16 as well (which will also be sold soon) and will check out your HR-16 vid next!
Hi Jon. I just bought a RZ1 and I've noticed that some of the sounds are much quieter than the others when played through the stereo outs for example the Clap and Tom 3. Is this usual / the same on your machine? The RZ1 only arrived today so I will do some experimenting withe the individual outs to my desk to get around the volume differences that way. Thanks for your help in advance! Xan
It wasn't ever really 'cutting edge' though, even back in the mid 80's a Fairlight was far more advanced, if admittedly ridiculously expensive, although it was 12bit compared to an Emulator 2 which was still only 8bit if my memory serves.
love the sequencer programming,you can copy every pattern via copy in menü, and arrange by numeric postion ,programming a song in 1 minute is easy possible.
guess what a modified Sega Megadrive can do sampling better than this ^^ if only i have a midi interface to use it live i can do monstruous sound with this gaming console with some tracker like Defelmask, the FM synth part can be used to in a great way.
i dont doubt that for a second. nearly all the early putters had very good sampling capabilites. the AMIGA being very cool for that fot the time. the unit in the vid is really at the birth of affordable sampling tech.
+Tibi Sz no worries. korg have just put out a game changing analogue synth thats sub 500 dollars and in my opinion is the best thing made in the last 20 years. no shit. KORG MONOLOGUE. just amazing. save and buy it.
dang it sounds so good, and that mini screen really helps you understand what are you doing, for my contry is still expensive and first i need to get my hands on some nice monitors, cause i feel dead without hearing what am i doing :)) thx for the tip cheers M8
+jon ryman - have you played a Minilogue? It was my first synth (from 3 months ago, ha), and I find it to be really noisy in a way that washes it out of mixes, especially if you get anywhere near the onboard delay. I also have a hard time wringing good basses and long pads out of mine. Am I just doing it wrong? Or what would you recommend using them for, ie what do you feel they're good at/not good at? Conversely I can't stop playing with my JP-08, and find my JD-Xi to be far more satisfying in terms of actual musical output.
Dude, it's really not that great, I know it looks cool as hell........but, I don't know, it isn't often I don't like a drum machine, hell, I even like the RX11, that thing I just didn't like that much
do you have to re-program the samples into your existing saved patterns each time you play said patterns? Could you hypothetically write patterns that are completely comprised of samples and no presets?
Matthew Carr the samples act as any other pad. yes you can write patterns made of just samples and then probably they would be all in time with each other, but not the "main" preset sounds. for some hopeless reason the samples will never be in time with the main kit. hence the need to use non rhythmical elements for the samples ie vox.
southern voice makes me laugh but all in all find the series very interesting and funny. you persuaded me to go for a univox too great video that. look forward to the new ones. happy new year.
Steve Poindexter actually did say that it was the 'slightly off' sample timing that he liked about it. I had a RZ-1, sampled the sounds to my MPC and gave it away. Then I missed that 'off' timing of the samples. So I offset the bass kick myself to get that real RZ-1 feel! LOL!!!
the hat groove is sooo sick and heavy and you can not get rid of it. this wierd reverse early shuffle. very nice groove built in ie mpc stylee
I have one, it cost £400 back in the mid 80s.
You could do a kind of Depeche Mode, and sample metal clangs and bottle and spoon ting tings!
You can have 4 very short samples, two samples double the length of the singles and that eye watering 1.6 second on one pad!
If you EQ, distort etc the sounds, you can get a good sound from it, and even sample a 909/808 etc, but as he says, there is a tiny delay on impact of the buttons.
The delay is caused by the way it samples. You set it to 'listen' for audio input, and once it detects a certain level, it samples it, but in doing so, you get the 'lead in' delay of a few milliseconds, but then again, the Linn had a similar sloppy timing, but it adds to the feel of certain tracks.
It's a doddle to work.
first thing that comes to my mind when I see the RZ-1 is steve poindexter. nice one for sharing the wisdom
great video, thanks! what do you think they're worth today? I inherited one in wonderful condition and once I sampled all the sounds into my EPS 16+ it's been sitting idle for quite some time while I wait to see some examples pop up on ebay so I know how to price it but no dice... I have an HR-16 as well (which will also be sold soon) and will check out your HR-16 vid next!
Another main reason for this little thing is the individual outs.
seem to remember de la soul using this on 3 feet high
Sample an 808 snare for instant vintage Todd Terry action! Out of interest how are you syncing the 303?
midnightstepper midi...the RZ1 is midi only. midi out from the RZ1 to midi in on a SBX90 sync box. clock 24 out from the SBX syncbox.
jon ryman Okay, cool, thanks. Can do that with the Kenton then.
0.8 seconds at 8bit resolution.
Made this on the RZ-1 th-cam.com/video/xHZRmFKHuGY/w-d-xo.html (used the sampleslots for kick and claps)
Hi Jon. I just bought a RZ1 and I've noticed that some of the sounds are much quieter than the others when played through the stereo outs for example the Clap and Tom 3. Is this usual / the same on your machine? The RZ1 only arrived today so I will do some experimenting withe the individual outs to my desk to get around the volume differences that way. Thanks for your help in advance! Xan
I like to imagine this is Nigel Tufnel from Spinal Tap.
i think you will find that I am considerably considerably more stoned than nigel was.
I bought this gear because of this video
Where has Jon gone. Come back
still here. just. hang tight. lp due this year probs hopefully august sept. full commercial lp. no cassette:!!
Excellent news. Really good to hear. Actually enjoy listening to the masterclass stuff to unwind with your blunt realism to the analog devices
sick track at the end man, dope as aphex
It wasn't ever really 'cutting edge' though, even back in the mid 80's a Fairlight was far more advanced, if admittedly ridiculously expensive, although it was 12bit compared to an Emulator 2 which was still only 8bit if my memory serves.
I just wanted to thx you for all the analog masterclass videos, very very useful, awesome tips and warning, cheers from france :)
of course the sample banks were only there to add 4 of your own custom drum sounds via the 12bit samples
love the sequencer programming,you can copy every pattern via copy in menü, and arrange by numeric postion ,programming a song in 1 minute is easy possible.
cool Video Love the pain in the asshole. hahahah Thanks Bud!
Lil Louis
guess what a modified Sega Megadrive can do sampling better than this ^^ if only i have a midi interface to use it live i can do monstruous sound with this gaming console with some tracker like Defelmask, the FM synth part can be used to in a great way.
i dont doubt that for a second. nearly all the early putters had very good sampling capabilites. the AMIGA being very cool for that fot the time. the unit in the vid is really at the birth of affordable sampling tech.
Loving your analogue masterclass videos. You have great taste. Keep up doing these demos!
I haven't commented on a TH-cam video in years but I had to sign in and thank you for this video. This is a proper masterclass. Keep it up mate.
+Marc well thats pretty funky...!
great and profound review, Thanks a lot!!!
oi oi dude, great tune ! Love the first beat, too.
see you in march old fruit...old school therapy session.
Great news, can't wait! Will be away the weekend of the 19th... BTW, turned 50 two days ago ;)
bones breaks...
nice masterclass...to bad i dont own analog instruments (or i dont have money for them)
..and the track at the end is superb
keep it up
+Tibi Sz no worries. korg have just put out a game changing analogue synth thats sub 500 dollars and in my opinion is the best thing made in the last 20 years. no shit. KORG MONOLOGUE. just amazing. save and buy it.
dang it sounds so good, and that mini screen really helps you understand what are you doing, for my contry is still expensive and first i need to get my hands on some nice monitors, cause i feel dead without hearing what am i doing :)) thx for the tip cheers M8
+Tibi Sz look into the korg volca series as well, inexpensive fun
+jon ryman - have you played a Minilogue? It was my first synth (from 3 months ago, ha), and I find it to be really noisy in a way that washes it out of mixes, especially if you get anywhere near the onboard delay. I also have a hard time wringing good basses and long pads out of mine. Am I just doing it wrong? Or what would you recommend using them for, ie what do you feel they're good at/not good at? Conversely I can't stop playing with my JP-08, and find my JD-Xi to be far more satisfying in terms of actual musical output.
Gotta get that shit!! before it ends up being 2 grand.
Dude, it's really not that great, I know it looks cool as hell........but, I don't know, it isn't often I don't like a drum machine, hell, I even like the RX11, that thing I just didn't like that much
so when you write a pattern including your sample pads there, can you re-sample stuff and trigger new samples with those old patterns?
Matthew Carr thats a negative. its very very very basic. no pitch for example...!
jon ryman so what heppens to your patterns when you change the samples?
Matthew Carr nothing. think of the samples as an add on ...not the main part. the sample bank is pretty useless for drums really.
do you have to re-program the samples into your existing saved patterns each time you play said patterns? Could you hypothetically write patterns that are completely comprised of samples and no presets?
Matthew Carr
the samples act as any other pad. yes you can write patterns made of just samples and then probably they would be all in time with each other, but not the "main" preset sounds. for some hopeless reason the samples will never be in time with the main kit. hence the need to use non rhythmical elements for the samples ie vox.
Track at the end is sickness!
+Machariel i'll mail you the full version if you want. if you really really want.
+jon ryman Do want, pm'd you. :) :) :)
+Machariel okk give us DAY OR 2 . YOU GOT A DROPBOX A/C?
+Machariel try this:
soundcloud.com/jon-ryman
awesome track! really love this techno-casio sound
southern voice makes me laugh but all in all find the series very interesting and funny. you persuaded me to go for a univox too great video that. look forward to the new ones. happy new year.
cheers rupert. thanks for watching and hope you find something of use...
is not a 12 bit machine but 8...
+Redshift Detroit yeah fuck me if your not right. funny thing is...the sound quality really dont sound like 8 bit tho..
This is a digital machine. It's not analog at all.
my4trackmachine NO SHIT....!!
jon ryman just saying... it sure is pretty digital for the analogue masterclass....
and? its still purty funkee....
jon ryman It is quite a lovely unit. It's just inconsistent with the analog title.
ahh. i see. inconsistent. like my sex life.
Oh my god, shut up and play, dude. Who cares what famous producer used it?
+Kenny Bressler ahh dont be such n old sourpuss. ya can always turn my garbage off ya know...
+jon ryman I can't help it.
Are you still a sourpuss?
0.8 seconds of sampling time, not 1.6.
+DerGrosseKrieger thought you could combine the two banks to get 1.6 secs. no?
+jon ryman Sadly not: you can either have 4 x 0.2, 2 x 0.4, or 1 x 0.8 second sample. Keeps life interesting. =)
How do you load the samples?
Jose Andres Passarelli er....you dont. you can only record in. theres no disk drive. i guess this woulda cost a fortune back then anyway..