+Nutguy95 i have a set of wheels i like a lot in a RWD roadster but they are 17x8J all around, i recently bought a new staggered set 17x7.5 & 17x10, now that i have a brand new staggered set i will definitely widen my old wheels nad keep them for reserves
Nutguy95 tell me how it's unsafe. I can see maybe drifting with them. But you should definitely consider how wide they are going to be. But I mean they make offsets. So why in the hell is this dangerous. Also dragsters are going one way, straight. That's it nothing more. Someone didn't take physics lol. I agree buddy. Those are the ones that think they know it all and are on a damn high horse
Ayyy lmao where in there did I say hot rods? And tell me. Usually hot rods are for drag. Ya know, power. Not these fucking ricers. But what would u do with a muscle car? Do u honestly think it's safe to put it on a closed circuit track?
Thanks, it was easy with strap. Yes, I have driven about 20tkm, not were difficult to balance. Allmost better balance than new one 19" Barzetta wheels.
did almost the same a few years back. final welding was done with the wheel sitting in a plastic kiddie pool filled with water to keep it cool. never ran the car on them, but a friend got them and ran them. actually balanced at tire shop pretty well. i still don't trust them even when i build them, although i made them as safe as possible. guess i'm just afraid of death at 90 mph.
Then spend a day removing the spatter ... why cant you roll and weld free hand and still get a decent even weld seam ..oh I forgot you can't weld. welded must be a million miles of weld on cylindrical parts and rarely used a manipulator or rolls. And always perfect continual welds.. Oh I forgot I am a welder .
ULTIM8STUCH Can't tell if you're upset at me. I'm not saying he can't do it free hand I was simply saying with the use of the lathe it would of made it easier and faster to weld. Clean up would of been the same either way. And I myself also weld and know my way, so good job, glad to hear you can weld perfectly.
I've do e this on two different sets of wheels and it works great. Spin on cars axle before final bead to make sure it's true. And make sure there is a drop center in the wheel close to one of the beads so your tire mounts easy
Funny how people say it's unsafe lmao they probably don't know that the center of most steelies is only tacked in... So those are more than safe, they don't realise how strong that gauge of metal and welds are.
I will need to get some steelies for my mustang sleeper build...steelies and v6 body disguise and quiet mufflers with a boosted v8 under the hood. That will be a good build when done.
I never stayed on a video for the song but this song has made a exception. By the way nice video if i had all the tools necessary ill probably start a rim company.
После прихватывания сваркой (перед обваркой швов), желательно проверить на радиальное и осевое биение. И, при необходимости, подкорректировать геометрию.
I saw a video about one russian guy, who's making same sort of things. He makes it a little different. He got a self made special machine, that bends steel stripe for him into a desired radius. It's pretty simple machihe actually. Just 2 stationary rods in bearings and 1 movable rod between them, also fixed in bearings. By adjusting height of the middle movable rod he can bend steel very smoothly. I guess you could build something like it.
So this is how they make those stock steelies so deep , I love the look of them , I see people doing the deep steelie look on volvos alot and I want to be one of them ,
I've seen them , like its called they do look like a racing rim , I'd love to do what they did in the video and take stock steelies widen them 3" for the rear and 2" in the front , than paint em white
If your afraid of Wheels then stand farther away from the curb until your bus arrives to take you and your little brother to the movies. They want $1200 for wide steelies for a VW MK1 there is a lot of $ to be made if you have the lungs to do the welding. Sweet Job Masuli.
This has got to be the longest way to widen rims. I would've just cut the centers of the rim and placed it on a barrel that's already 9.5 wide. It's way faster than adding another amount of rolled steel.
@lochn91 the tire dont seal on the lip. and its not 2 long lips eaither. its just a stock steelie with a strip of sheet metal to extend it. its not the safest thing in the world but it will inflate and keep air if welded correctly. however this is not how the pros do it lol. they use 3 steelies to make one wide one. i would not trust this one with my life or a speed bump lmfao.
If the steel they used is the same, than the one used on the wheelies and then if the welding is done like it should then it's going to be as strong as it needs to be, depends on the skill level of the person doing this.
I had 14" wide 15" tall steelies with 38" tires under my Land Cruiser, never had any problems of any kind. I know of guys running 20" wide wheels with 49" and 54" tires under fullsize trucks like F350 and HD3500. Those are street legal rigs and driven hard off road, so they get used at 60-70 mph and in extreme off road conditions. Those wheels are widened in basically the same way, so I'm sure they'll hold fine under a Civic or little sportscar, as long as the welds are good.
This video maker said in comments that he does welding as his work, so we can suppose that he knows how to make strong weld joint. And Finlands maximium speed is 120kph (75mph) at summer and 100kph (62mph) at winter, so speeds are not so high at here. Of course those rims are illegal and you might get ticket from police and you will fail MOT test if you go there widened steelies on your ride. There is company named Vannepaja (check vannepaja.fi) in Finland which makes modded steelies to show cars. If I would use modded steelies, I would drive way under speedlimits just for extra safety.
I've seen dozens of factory and aftermarket wheels fail, break, bent and out of round. People drive around in without a care in the world. Factory steelies are usually spot welded together. Jeepers and desert runners have been doing the widened steelies for decades.
id call around to machinist schools or a similiar vocational school with access to welding equipment because itd be hella cheap. but shop wise, pretty much any automotive shop.
Everyone that is discrediting the integrity of these wheels. This is how they have done this for fifty years or more. Moroso used to do this as a common service in the 60's and many companies still do. Matter of fact alot of drag cars used them and mine still does.
welding wheels are illegal in quebec..so as streched tires..they passed a new law everyone running them gets their car impounded untill they change wheels and pass an inspection...
safety glove with that grinder bud. My friend almost cut one of his fingers off a few months ago because his finger got caught on the grinding disk and pulled into the grinder.
Thin metal like that should be welded an inch or two at a time, then rotated 180 degrees and do a couple inches on the other side. He probably warped the metal and it'll never balance
Not sure why this seems unsafe. I mean motorcycle and car wheels can be spoked and they're safe. Spokes could break but unlikely they'd all break and it's unlikely all that weld would give way.
Great vid but was the wheel %100 true. I would have dropped it onto a tyre balancer after tacking it and set it up like a calibration *we use a true 14" rim no tyre to calibrate the balancer" and a 1 rpm rotator to seam weld it. Great stuff though. Never stretched a tyre before but not new to fabrication. Just got to ask myself 1 question would I trust my own welding at 70mph......Nnaaaaa not wheels anyway.
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its dangerous? drive whit these type rims? What happens if the weld broke at 60 mph?
hi i really think you should use some kind of dial when putting back the lip on, how do you know if it's balance? but still awesome work to the max, who knew you can make factory steel rims fly.
You could spin the wheel on the balancer, and mark the light spot (on the outside surface, of course, which will be hidden by the tire) with crayon, and the weight that it needs in that spot. Then you simply get the mig welder and add a bead of weld on the light spot. You'll get it pretty close to zero balance. Then put the wheel back on the balancer and use a grinder to remove smaller amounts of steel as you get it exactly to zero.
Why didn't you put it back in the lathe and get someone else to spin it slowly while you welded it? Surely you would get a much more even weld which requires less balancing?
+dj7310 Too much heat in one area may warp the metal and make it off balance. Also, I don't think weld splatter is a good thing to have on the ways of a lathe.
Don't mean to sound critical but why no gloves through most of the video? I prefer to have my fingers whole. Loved the no stop grinder dancing on the table. Pretty sure those rims are going end up in his moms garden as planters eventually.
Thanks for posting this! Excellent Video, great method with the ratchet strap. Have you driven on these wheels yet? Also were they difficult to balance? They appear to have gone together nicely.
every one can hate on him but they aint building like you are thats good work bro BUILT NOT BOUGHT !!!!!
Chris Madayag I agree! I'm a machinist, and I just did a silicone implant on my girlfriend! BUILT, NOT BOUGHT!!!! (Irony may occur)
YETI 16 BOUGHT Then BUILT
They will work just fine. Many of my friends are using wheels like these. Nice tutorial ;-)
love how all the boy racers are saying how unsafe this is even though hotrodders have been doing it for years
+Nutguy95 i have a set of wheels i like a lot in a RWD roadster but they are 17x8J all around, i recently bought a new staggered set 17x7.5 & 17x10, now that i have a brand new staggered set i will definitely widen my old wheels nad keep them for reserves
Nutguy95 tell me how it's unsafe. I can see maybe drifting with them. But you should definitely consider how wide they are going to be. But I mean they make offsets. So why in the hell is this dangerous. Also dragsters are going one way, straight. That's it nothing more. Someone didn't take physics lol. I agree buddy. Those are the ones that think they know it all and are on a damn high horse
Jeremiah Arnold there's a difference between hot rods and dragsters but ok
Ayyy lmao where in there did I say hot rods? And tell me. Usually hot rods are for drag. Ya know, power. Not these fucking ricers. But what would u do with a muscle car? Do u honestly think it's safe to put it on a closed circuit track?
Jeremiah Arnold dude. Nutguy spoke about hot rods. And not everyone who has a hotrod uses it for the strip only
We've done this on our shop many times already, and there's no problem. :)
Thanks, it was easy with strap. Yes, I have driven about 20tkm, not were difficult to balance. Allmost better balance than new one 19" Barzetta wheels.
Love to see you run a dial gauge over the rim. And put it on a balancer. Good luck
I've got some widened steel rims and they're fine, all depends on the skill of the operator.
+Roman Dybala Exactly my thoughts
ikr!
Roman Dybala this is most professional yet i have seen way worse hackjobs done before.
Roman Dybala whats a balancer and a dial gauge do?
Wow that 's really
a craftsmanship!
did almost the same a few years back. final welding was done with the wheel sitting in a plastic kiddie pool filled with water to keep it cool. never ran the car on them, but a friend got them and ran them. actually balanced at tire shop pretty well. i still don't trust them even when i build them, although i made them as safe as possible. guess i'm just afraid of death at 90 mph.
There not made for speeds over 40 lol, i never go fast with any advanced steelies, LOW AND SLOW is the way to go lol,
i don't run them. if a wheel manufacturer doesn't make them, i don't run them.
william webster You don't trust a steel wheel, but you'll trust an aluminum wheel?
sitting the wheel in water while you weld....luckly you didn't die and it would be better to let the wheel cool by itself you get less distortion
kept the heat way down. i was young and stupid then.
For all the people that say it is unsafe..it is unsafe if the works is not good..but this guy did a great job..trust me it's 100% safe..
Thx for share this video. Greetings from Austria !
I have 17 custom steelies on my BMW e34 and it looks so amazing like it says all eyes on me 😎
From a t5?
@@3finnian x3
After tacking, should of thrown the wheel back on the lathe put it on a lower rotating speed and do a nice constant bead.
Then spend a day removing the spatter ... why cant you roll and weld free hand and still get a decent even weld seam ..oh I forgot you can't weld. welded must be a million miles of weld on cylindrical parts and rarely used a manipulator or rolls. And always perfect continual welds.. Oh I forgot I am a welder .
ULTIM8STUCH Can't tell if you're upset at me.
I'm not saying he can't do it free hand I was simply saying with the use of the lathe it would of made it easier and faster to weld.
Clean up would of been the same either way.
And I myself also weld and know my way, so good job, glad to hear you can weld perfectly.
only problem that would happen here is if he did strait welding without spreading his heat properly between both sides
ULTIM8STUCH Dude you’re a straight up agro piece of shit.
@@LifesAbe-ach twat
coincidence that the video is 7:40 long? Maybe the steelies is for a Volvo 740? :)
+Joacim Lethenström Yes, for a Volvo 740 masuli.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Volvo+740/2013/130716-3.jpg/_full.jpg
+Masuli great looking car !
+Masuli is it true that it is really difficult to get coil overs for volvo's ?
there dosent even exist coilovers in sweden that are bolt on what i now
+swedish minion yes it does
I've do e this on two different sets of wheels and it works great. Spin on cars axle before final bead to make sure it's true. And make sure there is a drop center in the wheel close to one of the beads so your tire mounts easy
Loved the music man
Funny how people say it's unsafe lmao they probably don't know that the center of most steelies is only tacked in...
So those are more than safe, they don't realise how strong that gauge of metal and welds are.
I like his safety gloves!
still remember a friend of mine using the same method in the late 80's for his holden v6 coupe.
I will need to get some steelies for my mustang sleeper build...steelies and v6 body disguise and quiet mufflers with a boosted v8 under the hood. That will be a good build when done.
haha definitely!! I was gonna stretch some steelies to 14" so I can throw em on my twin turbo powerstroke Cummins
I never stayed on a video for the song but this song has made a exception. By the way nice video if i had all the tools necessary ill probably start a rim company.
После прихватывания сваркой (перед обваркой швов), желательно проверить на радиальное и осевое биение. И, при необходимости, подкорректировать геометрию.
I saw a video about one russian guy, who's making same sort of things. He makes it a little different. He got a self made special machine, that bends steel stripe for him into a desired radius. It's pretty simple machihe actually. Just 2 stationary rods in bearings and 1 movable rod between them, also fixed in bearings. By adjusting height of the middle movable rod he can bend steel very smoothly. I guess you could build something like it.
that video quality is pretty darn amazing.
Very nice work!
Espectacular, me diste una muy buena idea para mi fiat 1500 multicarga
Awesome song dude the first one
I've never seen how this process is done. Nice job man! :D
So this is how they make those stock steelies so deep , I love the look of them , I see people doing the deep steelie look on volvos alot and I want to be one of them ,
check out diamond racing rims.
I've seen them , like its called they do look like a racing rim , I'd love to do what they did in the video and take stock steelies widen them 3" for the rear and 2" in the front , than paint em white
Diamonds are basically just deep dish steelies
Very similar to aero , I still like the look of stock steelies I guess you would call them that , oem ,
Oem +
Or, oem plus
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who gave you my playlist, and dude no glove no love come on now. good work.
Thickness of sheetmetal is 2,5-3mm. It was bent allready in the metal workshop from where i ordered them. I think the tig welding is better than mig.
That "feeling" straightening game is strong
If your afraid of Wheels then stand farther away from the curb until your bus arrives to take you and your little brother to the movies. They want $1200 for wide steelies for a VW MK1 there is a lot of $ to be made if you have the lungs to do the welding. Sweet Job Masuli.
mau5terpiece Hom, nice job i love that Steelies greetings from Mexico City
the safety probably all depends on the grade and thickness of steel you use, as well as the welds...
he obviously just trusts his craftsmanship
Very cool, good job
i would choose banded steels with a nice gloss black over any alloys, i just think there awsome
props to you man!! awesome project!
This has got to be the longest way to widen rims. I would've just cut the centers of the rim and placed it on a barrel that's already 9.5 wide. It's way faster than adding another amount of rolled steel.
@lochn91
the tire dont seal on the lip. and its not 2 long lips eaither. its just a stock steelie with a strip of sheet metal to extend it. its not the safest thing in the world but it will inflate and keep air if welded correctly. however this is not how the pros do it lol. they use 3 steelies to make one wide one. i would not trust this one with my life or a speed bump lmfao.
Nice I would like 4 of those right now
neat but I question the integrity of its strength and its durability at highway speeds and under the full weight of a car ..but very cool nonetheless
If the steel they used is the same, than the one used on the wheelies and then if the welding is done like it should then it's going to be as strong as it needs to be, depends on the skill level of the person doing this.
I could see that but still kinda sketchy
I had 14" wide 15" tall steelies with 38" tires under my Land Cruiser, never had any problems of any kind. I know of guys running 20" wide wheels with 49" and 54" tires under fullsize trucks like F350 and HD3500. Those are street legal rigs and driven hard off road, so they get used at 60-70 mph and in extreme off road conditions. Those wheels are widened in basically the same way, so I'm sure they'll hold fine under a Civic or little sportscar, as long as the welds are good.
This video maker said in comments that he does welding as his work, so we can suppose that he knows how to make strong weld joint. And Finlands maximium speed is 120kph (75mph) at summer and 100kph (62mph) at winter, so speeds are not so high at here. Of course those rims are illegal and you might get ticket from police and you will fail MOT test if you go there widened steelies on your ride.
There is company named Vannepaja (check vannepaja.fi) in Finland which makes modded steelies to show cars. If I would use modded steelies, I would drive way under speedlimits just for extra safety.
I've seen dozens of factory and aftermarket wheels fail, break, bent and out of round. People drive around in without a care in the world. Factory steelies are usually spot welded together. Jeepers and desert runners have been doing the widened steelies for decades.
Balanced better than new 19" Barzetta wheels ;)
Wow. real quality job! definitely Respec!
Measure up from the table atleast to square them in six places or so as you go around and tack!
big chance of poor accuracy, warping, glad its not me driving on it and having to try balancing it.
Name of the second Song is:
Trolley Snatcha - Make My Whole World
THANK YOU
+Florian Reich THX :)
for everyone complaining about the quality...have you ever thought maybe there not intended for street use?
he may have a tubbed burnout car?
Great job mate, i luv it !
Nice video!
That’s gonna be tough to balance.
This guy is a boss
id call around to machinist schools or a similiar vocational school with access to welding equipment because itd be hella cheap. but shop wise, pretty much any automotive shop.
Sweet! Thanks for uploading your work.
great job man
wow awsom vid man im puttin banded steelies on my mk2 caddy
First song: Blue Foundation - Eyes on Fire
you're welcome
zeds dead remix
Bet they balance up well !!!
looks cool!
Very very good👌🏻👍🏻
Olá tudo bem!
Belo trabalho.
Qual a espessura dessa Chapa q vc usou aí para alargar a roda amigão?
essa pisadinha é que faz toda a diferença, haha show!
Everyone that is discrediting the integrity of these wheels. This is how they have done this for fifty years or more. Moroso used to do this as a common service in the 60's and many companies still do. Matter of fact alot of drag cars used them and mine still does.
welding wheels are illegal in quebec..so as streched tires..they passed a new law everyone running them gets their car impounded untill they change wheels and pass an inspection...
+Vega-Expert So how do you go about changing the wheels for correct ones if your car is impounded?
steelies are awesome
Great vid!
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safety glove with that grinder bud. My friend almost cut one of his fingers off a few months ago because his finger got caught on the grinding disk and pulled into the grinder.
PERFECT MY FRIEND, LIKE
Damn i wish i knew somewhere in TN i could get this done!
Cleveland, Chattanooga, Calhoun Georgia there's ppl everywhere
Thin metal like that should be welded an inch or two at a time, then rotated 180 degrees and do a couple inches on the other side. He probably warped the metal and it'll never balance
Nice job!
Good job guy
Well, I was waiting for it with the tires installed.
It's pretty good
awesome "man"
Really cool
fantastic skills man. love this kind of work! can i ask did you experience any wheel balance problems ? just curious thanks.
What the F do you think lol.
Awesome. Built not bought!
Dont know what it will cost. In finland some shop makes them about 200-300$ of set
This is safe just depends on if you weld it right or no
I think, they are as strong as normal steelies
Not sure why this seems unsafe. I mean motorcycle and car wheels can be spoked and they're safe. Spokes could break but unlikely they'd all break and it's unlikely all that weld would give way.
They look awesome as!!
1. What is the thickness of the sheet metal?
2. Does it distort much when fully welding like that?
Great vid but was the wheel %100 true. I would have dropped it onto a tyre balancer after tacking it and set it up like a calibration *we use a true 14" rim no tyre to calibrate the balancer" and a 1 rpm rotator to seam weld it. Great stuff though. Never stretched a tyre before but not new to fabrication. Just got to ask myself 1 question would I trust my own welding at 70mph......Nnaaaaa not wheels anyway.
its dangerous? drive whit these type rims? What happens if the weld broke at 60 mph?
+Julio Obregón García I think propably allmost same thing when the tire blows up
+Masuli oki thanks, I like u video
+Julio Obregón García BYE BYE CRUEL WORLD>>>
Nah mate she'll be right a tree will catch ya
Jaja lmao
Credit for craftsmanship
hi i really think you should use some kind of dial when putting back the lip on, how do you know if it's balance? but still awesome work to the max, who knew you can make factory steel rims fly.
well here's to not having a balanced wheel ever again
thats what weights are for
even from the factory they are never balanced so no big deal there.
You could spin the wheel on the balancer, and mark the light spot (on the outside surface, of course, which will be hidden by the tire) with crayon, and the weight that it needs in that spot. Then you simply get the mig welder and add a bead of weld on the light spot. You'll get it pretty close to zero balance. Then put the wheel back on the balancer and use a grinder to remove smaller amounts of steel as you get it exactly to zero.
Why didn't you put it back in the lathe and get someone else to spin it slowly while you welded it? Surely you would get a much more even weld which requires less balancing?
+dj7310 Also to check the runout
+dj7310 Too much heat in one area may warp the metal and make it off balance. Also, I don't think weld splatter is a good thing to have on the ways of a lathe.
+Micah Montoya Good point I never thought about the spatter.
Don't mean to sound critical but why no gloves through most of the video? I prefer to have my fingers whole. Loved the no stop grinder dancing on the table. Pretty sure those rims are going end up in his moms garden as planters eventually.
what kind of metal did you use? & did they work out well? very good video
would love some wide steelies for my 95 Corolla.
We've tried it on a corolla already, it looks good.
DizzleEK- i saw a person selling those on craigslist in nashville TN u should check and ask them where they get em.
Thanks for posting this! Excellent Video, great method with the ratchet strap. Have you driven on these wheels yet? Also were they difficult to balance? They appear to have gone together nicely.
Nice man just did a set for my Volvo I only did a 2" band. What did those go on? Mine are for an S70 T5M
They went on 740
Dat Nokia N8. Love it! B|
Cool. Always wondered how this was done.
I'd be scared to run these haha especially knowing how I drive forged BBS FTW
***** ok
Nice work 🔧🔩🚗👍😃
Nice song