I had the privilege of having one of Charlie's students as my teacher many years ago. The things I learned about the trombone from him are just as useful 30+ years later.
My lesson teacher has many of the same ideas he does, which are also the same of Arnold Jacobs. My lesson teacher got 3/4 people in Area C to be Texas All Staters! Working hard for my time to come. This guy has a freaking fat ass sound that is so sexy and fantastic!
Charlie still has that HUGE sound; I went to college with him back in the day at Ga. State; I learned a lot from about breathing and moving the air; see Charlie, even trumpet players can put a lot of air through, to sing the sound. I hope to see you in Columbus.
ah, youth. Charlie is certainly the best-rounded player around these days, and, despite a couple of personal differences of opinion with him, I'd say he's among the best, without a question. No way to quantify "THE best", but if forced, Alessi then Vernon. Not by much.
maybe you wanna say the best bass trombone its dificult to say who`s the best trombonist in the world we have to nitzan haroz , joe alessi ,jay friedman , christian lindberg , ben van dyjk ... and a lot of good trombonist
I really wouldn't question Charly's philosophy of playing because it clearly works!!!!!!! Look up chikabone checkout if you think I'm wrong and you'll hear that he is right!
@TheVrajr Also, by saying charlie is wrong about this, you're also saying Arnold Jacobs is wrong. Think about that, Two of the best low brass players of ALL time. And you're probably some guy that barely practices and no one knows your name, but you're going to criticize the masters of brass' teaching.
Marshall Not all of us learn equally. To say that one teaching style is appropriate for all is equivalent to saying that American Republican values are for everyone, which obviously they aren't. Certain teachers help certain students improve. I've listened to endless famous brass CDs on repeat since early high school, but I didn't start to really improve on my instrument until my Masters degree. Some teachers just don't get through to some people. It's not anyone's fault either. But, to say that Wind and Song is for everyone is sadly a misconception. We must learn MANY different ways to teach a concept, no exception.
I am preparing to get kicked in the ribs just as Vrajr has. I have to agree with him. The first thing I thought of when I watched this video was his exact comment. Everyone here is sharing a different perspective ......and using different terminology for the same thing. When Charles blows "Faster" listen to the pitch of his wind (just as a measurement). Its the exact same speed of air as when he blows "slower". He in fact is Letting more Volume out at once (some might describe this as , Faster, because yes, the quanitity of air is leaving the body faster). HOWEVER, the velocity of his wind pattern has not changed. And no, I may not be in the CSO but I have experimented with this extensively, studied with well respected orchestral tubists, professors etc. The difference is charles doesnt think about his "higher pressure" (what I call faster) air. He just thinks pitch. Now bring on the shaming.
When does he say speed of air equals pitch? Because I've listened to this multiple times and I'm pretty sure he says speed of air equals volume? Which seems like common knowledge (or should be). Everything he is saying is very similar to Don Harwoods school of thought on playing. Any complaint is just hogwash.
Nonsense. Volume of air = volume of sound. Speed of air = pitch of sound. Mr. Vernon can make any sound he likes but still not be correct in his explanation.
Anything this man has to say is less relevant than his poor intonation, phrasing (Listen to him blip the top note right at the beginning) and his mistreatment of the trombone he has laying on the floor . . If you pay 10k plus for an instrument why not $60 for a stand
+Daniel Sowter He is an exceptional trombonist let alone bass trombonist. That is not to say he never blips a note, over all he sounds wonderful in this video and most everything else i've heard him play. Not that many trombones are over 10K too. And I'm pretty sure he's sponsored so he's not paying that in addition to setting your trombone down on the ground is not mistreatment. That trombone was set down the proper way and was in just as good condition when it was set down as when he picked it up.
I don't know what are you talking about, though I don't know this guy after watching and listening this video I wish to have the same phrasing, intonation, range and sound he shows here.
What a BEAUTIFUL tone!!!!! Charlie Vernon is a wonderful musician.
I had the privilege of having one of Charlie's students as my teacher many years ago. The things I learned about the trombone from him are just as useful 30+ years later.
My lesson teacher has many of the same ideas he does, which are also the same of Arnold Jacobs. My lesson teacher got 3/4 people in Area C to be Texas All Staters! Working hard for my time to come. This guy has a freaking fat ass sound that is so sexy and fantastic!
Charlie still has that HUGE sound; I went to college with him back in the day at Ga. State; I learned a lot from about breathing and moving the air; see Charlie, even trumpet players can put a lot of air through, to sing the sound. I hope to see you in Columbus.
What was that thing he was using with the mouthpiece when he was playing?
At 4:40 that laugh hahahahahahaha :)
Mr Vernon is a genious indeed!
What is that piece at 0:25??! I’ve been trying to find it and I love it!
I’m gettin’ sentimental over you
the best trombon player in the world
ah, youth. Charlie is certainly the best-rounded player around these days, and, despite a couple of personal differences of opinion with him, I'd say he's among the best, without a question. No way to quantify "THE best", but if forced, Alessi then Vernon. Not by much.
@andres00004 chicago symphony, if you don´t mind.
maybe you wanna say the best bass trombone its dificult to say who`s the best trombonist in the world we have to nitzan haroz , joe alessi ,jay friedman , christian lindberg , ben van dyjk ... and a lot of good trombonist
@andres00004 Exactly!
What is he inserting into the shank to allow him to buzz on the trombone? Thanks!
he inserts a trombone cock
I really wouldn't question Charly's philosophy of playing because it clearly works!!!!!!! Look up chikabone checkout if you think I'm wrong and you'll hear that he is right!
He's a god.
@Thevrajr I think we all know who the one dislike is!
0:38 no pun intended
@TheVrajr Also, by saying charlie is wrong about this, you're also saying Arnold Jacobs is wrong. Think about that, Two of the best low brass players of ALL time. And you're probably some guy that barely practices and no one knows your name, but you're going to criticize the masters of brass' teaching.
Marshall Not all of us learn equally. To say that one teaching style is appropriate for all is equivalent to saying that American Republican values are for everyone, which obviously they aren't. Certain teachers help certain students improve. I've listened to endless famous brass CDs on repeat since early high school, but I didn't start to really improve on my instrument until my Masters degree. Some teachers just don't get through to some people. It's not anyone's fault either. But, to say that Wind and Song is for everyone is sadly a misconception. We must learn MANY different ways to teach a concept, no exception.
@@StocksIn60Seconds its song and wind .... not wind and song.....
I am preparing to get kicked in the ribs just as Vrajr has. I have to agree with him. The first thing I thought of when I watched this video was his exact comment. Everyone here is sharing a different perspective ......and using different terminology for the same thing. When Charles blows "Faster" listen to the pitch of his wind (just as a measurement). Its the exact same speed of air as when he blows "slower". He in fact is Letting more Volume out at once (some might describe this as , Faster, because yes, the quanitity of air is leaving the body faster). HOWEVER, the velocity of his wind pattern has not changed. And no, I may not be in the CSO but I have experimented with this extensively, studied with well respected orchestral tubists, professors etc. The difference is charles doesnt think about his "higher pressure" (what I call faster) air. He just thinks pitch. Now bring on the shaming.
hahahahah, best trombon player in the world.
GREAT
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He's wrong. Faster is not bigger, faster is higher. More air makes more sound.
When does he say speed of air equals pitch? Because I've listened to this multiple times and I'm pretty sure he says speed of air equals volume? Which seems like common knowledge (or should be). Everything he is saying is very similar to Don Harwoods school of thought on playing. Any complaint is just hogwash.
Nonsense. Volume of air = volume of sound. Speed of air = pitch of sound. Mr. Vernon can make any sound he likes but still not be correct in his explanation.
Anything this man has to say is less relevant than his poor intonation, phrasing (Listen to him blip the top note right at the beginning) and his mistreatment of the trombone he has laying on the floor . . If you pay 10k plus for an instrument why not $60 for a stand
Daniel Sowter You realize this is Charles Vernon we are talking about?
+Daniel Sowter He is an exceptional trombonist let alone bass trombonist. That is not to say he never blips a note, over all he sounds wonderful in this video and most everything else i've heard him play. Not that many trombones are over 10K too. And I'm pretty sure he's sponsored so he's not paying that in addition to setting your trombone down on the ground is not mistreatment. That trombone was set down the proper way and was in just as good condition when it was set down as when he picked it up.
If I have a mute in, I can't put the horn on the stand. 8[
I don't know what are you talking about, though I don't know this guy after watching and listening this video I wish to have the same phrasing, intonation, range and sound he shows here.