I just finished the valve clearance on my 85 Magna V45. Very much learning as I go here; not a mechanic, although I pretend to be one sometimes. This was really helpful to get a visual, and just wrap my head around it. It went so well, and I'm very happy with the results. I'll be syncing my carbs too once I can get my hands on a manometer. So I will be back! Thanks a million :)
Just to let everyone know Dave Dodge passed away just before Thanksgiving 2023, he was a wizard when it came to the Honda V-4’s. My son met him last year, and we spoke to him several times about these bikes (we had 4 V-45 Sabres at that time), he had an amazing vast knowledge of these bikes. After he passed we spoke with his sister, and helped her get a lot of his shop cleaned up, he will be dearly missed in the motorcycle community.
Much thanks for the info. Wish I had seen this before the first time I “cleaned” the carbs on an ‘82 Sabre I recently bought. It would idle for a second and die. I just pulled the carbs again for more thorough cleaning (wasn’t much easier to pull the second time). Thanks again for sharing your knowledge👊
You are correct about Dave Dodge. When i owned my Honda V-65, i talked to Dave many times on the phone over the years. Dave's knowledge of early V-4's is vast .
I also have an 82. yes I've had them out. Used ratchet straps to get back in. I bench synced them thought that would be good but maybe I need to get synchronization tool.I have 43,000 seems to run good though. cams show a little wear.
Awesome. If you ever have to take the front cam out, there is a very specific procedure on how to time that cam (only the front 2-4 cylinders) on just the 1982 model. The cam is actually set up 45 degrees off the head surface to the timing mark. The rear cylinder is normal. If you put a cylinder 2-4 cam out of an '83 VF750C, the cam timing is normal, in line with the head surface. It's really weird. Honda has this convoluted procedure to set the timing on that cam for the '82, but there's a much simpler way. Cheers.
Great video brother... taking the carbs off gets s little easier each time I can practically do it in my sleep maybe 10 minutes to remove and another 10 to install but I have a 1983 sabre v45 should be about the same...I need to sync carbs but have been avoiding it... this video has made it seem very doable to me... say is that manometer you used able to be used for a 2 cylinder or only 4 cylinder like is is universal???...
@@josemares1439 leading link front end. Because of the sidecar. Look up leading link and sidecar in the Google machine and you can learn all about it. And yes, I fabricated it completely in house and at that time, without any machine tools except a vintage Taiwan 1980 drill press.
I remember a couple years ago he was sick, like down for the count. This was before the ‘Rona stuff. I ordered something from them and was talking with his wife about it. I’ll try and reach out to her with condolences.
Ah. Good question. On the Magna and a few other designs there are screws into the aluminum just behind the carb holders (insulators) on the head side. They’re M6 on these, others are M5. The carb tune kit and others comes with brass tubes with threads on one end to thread into those holes. Those are the vacuum ports. Carefully take out the screws. There should be aluminum sealing washers behind them. Use the washers from the brass tubes and screw them in. Just use a pair of pliers to snug them. Hook the synch hoses to the tubes. When finished return the screws with the seal washers back to the each hole.
Didn’t need to. They weren’t separated. And previously synchronized with my Carb Tune Pro. You only need to bench synch when multi carb racks are separated. Or an unknown baseline.
Will it even pop off? Or is it completely dead? Is it an 82? Were the cams removed especially on the front 2-4 cylinders? Gonna sound dumb but check the kill switch if it’s original. Power passes through it for ignition and it’ll crank even if the coils are getting intermittent power. That switch is a convoluted mess and a voltage drop under crank load could cause a no start.
Hello Moto resto have you ever had a v45 magna that was washed took water in through the air intake and then wouldn't run I have good compression spark and fuel check the timing new coils new plugs it will not run or fire at all do you have any thoughts on this issue or anyone else out there thank you
Thanks for the response it is a 1984 Honda magna VF700 and I do have power to the coils but it still doesn't fire at all and the coils are both brand new and new spark plugs
Would it have to turn over a few times for to hydrolock because when I went to start it it was it was just like bumping a starter it wouldn't turn over to like pull the plugs out sprayed out the cylinders with compressed air and WD-40 then it would turn over as normal but still wouldn't run
Well, if it has compression, fuel, air and ignition, it will run... it has to. So, one of the four isn't there, or isn't there in the amounts required. You need to go back to basics and re-verify everything. Flooded engines I have not dealt with, but again, if it has all the necessary things for running, it will run. The fact it doesn't, you have to go back and check everything. Something is being missed. Cheers.
The early V4’s pulled top end oil off the transmission via steel lines with Banjo fittings. The theory was that the early engines top end wear issues was related to oil starvation. The bypass kit takes oil right off the filter base and sends to the top end directly. It was a kit Dave Dodge sold. I recently learned he passed not too long ago so they’re probably not available anymore. The jury is still out on that theory, however, depends on where you read it whether the bypass is necessary at all. I chose to install one right out of the chute. The forks are a home made leading link suspension which is too complicated to explain here, look that up and you’ll see what it is.
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Thanks for the informative video on carb sync'ing the V45.
I just finished the valve clearance on my 85 Magna V45. Very much learning as I go here; not a mechanic, although I pretend to be one sometimes. This was really helpful to get a visual, and just wrap my head around it. It went so well, and I'm very happy with the results. I'll be syncing my carbs too once I can get my hands on a manometer. So I will be back! Thanks a million :)
Awesome videos man, very helpful and descriptive and even a bit of humor. Thanks for these!
Just to let everyone know Dave Dodge passed away just before Thanksgiving 2023, he was a wizard when it came to the Honda V-4’s. My son met him last year, and we spoke to him several times about these bikes (we had 4 V-45 Sabres at that time), he had an amazing vast knowledge of these bikes. After he passed we spoke with his sister, and helped her get a lot of his shop cleaned up, he will be dearly missed in the motorcycle community.
That’s very sad to hear, thanks for that update. He was very knowledgeable.
Loved the insight from the manual about the springs in the carbs!
Much thanks for the info. Wish I had seen this before the first time I “cleaned” the carbs on an ‘82 Sabre I recently bought. It would idle for a second and die. I just pulled the carbs again for more thorough cleaning (wasn’t much easier to pull the second time). Thanks again for sharing your knowledge👊
You are correct about Dave Dodge. When i owned my Honda V-65, i talked to Dave many times on the phone over the years. Dave's knowledge of early V-4's is vast .
I was just watching one of your vtx videos when this one popped up
Awesome teacher thanks knowing is half the battle
LOVE the nod to Dave Dodge.
I also have an 82. yes I've had them out. Used ratchet straps to get back in. I bench synced them thought that would be good but maybe I need to get synchronization tool.I have 43,000 seems to run good though. cams show a little wear.
Awesome. If you ever have to take the front cam out, there is a very specific procedure on how to time that cam (only the front 2-4 cylinders) on just the 1982 model. The cam is actually set up 45 degrees off the head surface to the timing mark. The rear cylinder is normal. If you put a cylinder 2-4 cam out of an '83 VF750C, the cam timing is normal, in line with the head surface. It's really weird. Honda has this convoluted procedure to set the timing on that cam for the '82, but there's a much simpler way. Cheers.
Huge help Thank You!!!
😇😁😇
It would have been nice if the carbs on Hondas V4 for sync purposes been set up like Yamaha 1200Vmax.
Great video brother... taking the carbs off gets s little easier each time I can practically do it in my sleep maybe 10 minutes to remove and another 10 to install but I have a 1983 sabre v45 should be about the same...I need to sync carbs but have been avoiding it... this video has made it seem very doable to me... say is that manometer you used able to be used for a 2 cylinder or only 4 cylinder like is is universal???...
Just use two of the meters. I use this 4-bank for six cylinder bikes as well, two evolutions of the device and done. Thanks.
@@MotoRestoFL oh ok I was just wondering if 1 would cover everything up to 4 cylinders my boat is 3 cylinders ok thanks
Also is that a custom front Springer suspension I've never seen 1 on a magna or sabre
@@josemares1439 leading link front end. Because of the sidecar. Look up leading link and sidecar in the Google machine and you can learn all about it. And yes, I fabricated it completely in house and at that time, without any machine tools except a vintage Taiwan 1980 drill press.
@@MotoRestoFL that is freaking amazing it looks factory like it came that way
hey do you happen to know the brand of the Front Fairing you got there? like that its got radio/speakers turn my V65 into a touring cruiser haha
Yes. It’s a Vetter Rooster 🐔 fairing. You can often find them on eBay.
Dave passed away around last Thanksgiving, 2023.
I had heard about that, it was very saddening to me for sure.
Unfortunately Dave Dodge did pass in late 2023. He was one of the pioneers of working on, racing, and modifying these old V-Fours.
I remember a couple years ago he was sick, like down for the count. This was before the ‘Rona stuff. I ordered something from them and was talking with his wife about it. I’ll try and reach out to her with condolences.
How did you hook up the carb sync pro?. Where do the tubes go?
Ah. Good question. On the Magna and a few other designs there are screws into the aluminum just behind the carb holders (insulators) on the head side. They’re M6 on these, others are M5. The carb tune kit and others comes with brass tubes with threads on one end to thread into those holes. Those are the vacuum ports. Carefully take out the screws. There should be aluminum sealing washers behind them. Use the washers from the brass tubes and screw them in. Just use a pair of pliers to snug them. Hook the synch hoses to the tubes. When finished return the screws with the seal washers back to the each hole.
What kind of front suspension setup is that? Looks like cyberpunk survival tech
Leading link. Home made.
If you had the carbs off then why didn't you sync them by eye before installing them?
Didn’t need to. They weren’t separated. And previously synchronized with my Carb Tune Pro. You only need to bench synch when multi carb racks are separated. Or an unknown baseline.
Also the carburetors were taken off and cleaned thoroughly and reassemble with new parts and bench synced and it still will not run
Will it even pop off? Or is it completely dead? Is it an 82? Were the cams removed especially on the front 2-4 cylinders? Gonna sound dumb but check the kill switch if it’s original. Power passes through it for ignition and it’ll crank even if the coils are getting intermittent power. That switch is a convoluted mess and a voltage drop under crank load could cause a no start.
Know the cams were never removed and it's a 1984 Magnum vs 700
Hello Moto resto have you ever had a v45 magna that was washed took water in through the air intake and then wouldn't run I have good compression spark and fuel check the timing new coils new plugs it will not run or fire at all do you have any thoughts on this issue or anyone else out there thank you
Could it have hydro locked and bent a rod?
Thanks for the response it is a 1984 Honda magna VF700 and I do have power to the coils but it still doesn't fire at all and the coils are both brand new and new spark plugs
Would it have to turn over a few times for to hydrolock because when I went to start it it was it was just like bumping a starter it wouldn't turn over to like pull the plugs out sprayed out the cylinders with compressed air and WD-40 then it would turn over as normal but still wouldn't run
Well, if it has compression, fuel, air and ignition, it will run... it has to. So, one of the four isn't there, or isn't there in the amounts required. You need to go back to basics and re-verify everything. Flooded engines I have not dealt with, but again, if it has all the necessary things for running, it will run. The fact it doesn't, you have to go back and check everything. Something is being missed. Cheers.
Thanks again for the response my man you made me realize I have to re-evaluate and check everything thanks again your videos are great keep it up
What is the oil bypass kit? and what's with those front forks?
The early V4’s pulled top end oil off the transmission via steel lines with Banjo fittings. The theory was that the early engines top end wear issues was related to oil starvation. The bypass kit takes oil right off the filter base and sends to the top end directly. It was a kit Dave Dodge sold. I recently learned he passed not too long ago so they’re probably not available anymore. The jury is still out on that theory, however, depends on where you read it whether the bypass is necessary at all. I chose to install one right out of the chute.
The forks are a home made leading link suspension which is too complicated to explain here, look that up and you’ll see what it is.
Dave passed away I believe it was November or December, of 2023. RIP Dave Dodge.
I heard that. Thanks. Super nice guy.