There is a 2 cost evilty Counter Contemptor that gets rid of counter attacks. Instead of mana scarcity and star blessing you could go Head-to-Head to get the needed slots that are available during the demo. I'm not sure if the numbers would pan out though since you'd be losing out on that 10% star damage and 20% extra damage from mana scarcity since head to head only gives +30%.
To add on to this, you can also use Damage Convert instead of Taste of Victory to save 1 evility slot with this method, since Damage Convert will get your INT to +100% after taking 10 hits
@@mistahmeowmerz3128 Can also get rid of the martial nemesis, since the warrior isn't considered either a martial artist nor a warrior, he's a unique, and not counted as a generic, as a result. Honestly could just pull the +40% star element damage evility for a 4 slot
What I did to prevent the counters was just throw the enemy into a corner and then trap them with the 2 geo blocks Because of handicap, the mage can't actually destroy the geo either, so it's doubling her damage output while trapping the enemy and preventing countering, but it does take a moment to setup. Worthwhile if you're going to let it sit there and run awhile for HL though.
@@iDannyPhant0m it's even better if you can go to 1-4 and use the Prinny Killer evility for +50% damage for one evility point. You can line 4 of them up at a time and deal massive damage to them. This takes awhile to set up, but its worth it. There are 5 prinnies in the stage, but I recommend just using 4 instead so you dont have to worry about their attacks or counters slowing you down. Do it on 0 stars so they dont have an ability that adds sleep/amnesia, I gave a group of units Hold the Line, Handicap, and Shockwave making sure they were at least over level 100 so they were a higher level than the prinnies so handicap would work, I used shockwave to push them to the back of the map, forming a wall with my units so they couldnt pass, then used "Hold the line" to make a barrier they couldn't pass, standing a space away so they couldn't attack my units, setting their D.I. to defend and facing them to the side to create this barrier every round automatically. then I'd just send any units not being used in this wall back into the base panel and bring out the mage to start spamming for money. She's easily earning trillions for me with this method (I expect nearly 1 trillion an hour by the time I get the final levels of enhancement finished)
What I do to stop the counterattacks is basically to also use a build that involves a secondary attacker loading them up with status effects paralyze and charm, along with the evilities that increase charm and paralyze damage. It's an extra attack per turn but it could be relevant! I had no idea this elemental burst ability existed, sounds like I'm heading back to the lab o-o! Legendary stuff.
I was just about to comment on your recent how to get a lot of money video until I saw this........ 1st my friend showed me your video on how to get to level 9999 already in the demo which I find funny because I already see a good chunk of your videos, then there was your old method of making HL and now this........ I am almost certain that you're secretly an overlord lol. Great job!!!!
I’ve love Disgaea ever since PS2, so I won’t say its because of you. THAT said, you have gotten me hype AF for D6, to the point that right now my game is grinding. 😂
With damage convert, you get 10% int every time you get attacked, which will cap you at 100% int very quickly. You can use this instead of taste of victory for the same damage increase for one less evility slot. The drawback is that you need to get attacked 10 times before you cap out, but that'll just take 2-4 turns depending on how many counters you trigger. The extra slot more than makes up for it.
indeed, i already switched to using it over taste of victory, im still testing different set ups though to try and get the absolute maximum damage possible so there might even be a newer video soon
@@Primalliquid92 Cool. Have you considered using status effects and death fang, which increases damage against paralysed opponents by 100% for 3 slots? You could have a secondary character using normal attacks with bad trip equipped. You could also take 5 enemies and trap them in a line with defending units for the mage to spam elemental burst on. Or maybe a mix of the two.
@@Denamic I'm using Prinny Poacher for +50% damage on 1-4 and Hold the Line to keep them in place after using Handicap and Shockwave to knock them against the back of the map. I've tried Counter Contemptor and it just doesn't seem worth it for the damage loss plus the normal enemy attack animation time each round, so I've been blasting 4 prinnies at a time 1 square away instead. Current Evilities: Damage Reward, Mana Scarcity, Handicap, Magic Collection, Damage Convert, Prinny Poacher, and Meteor Blessing. But if anyone has suggestions on what would be better, I'm all ears.
Have all the evilities except Damage Reward... Just super reincarnating again and again until I can find it I guess. Does the amount of SP you have max affect it at all? I'm assuming its just an INT based skill, but since it always costs max SP, curious if the amount of SP affects it at all.
I got all the evilities, and it's netting me about 27 billion an hour at current stats, very nice method! Guess I just need to keep reincarnating and using essences to get more INT, and keep pumping mana into the ability power.
I am amused by the evility that heals adjacent allies for 10% of your HL though... I have fundamentally immortal units unless something can one-shot me at this point.
haha sorry, but i really dont see anything being better than this on the demo (hell even this is TO MUCH for the demo) this is going to be enough HL now to seriously make a dent even in postgame things
still working but my sage only has 100M in INT and out of extracts. working a full time job does not help matters for taking time to farm mana and extracts from the dark assembly.
@@silencepain3233 No as he needs Warrior killer. Martial artists are the stereo-typical Bruce lee like characters. 7:02 clearly shows he's against a warrior class. I do have the game so I know which class is which and the required evilities.
If you're so right tested yourself you'll be surprised it is martial artist not Warrior killer You'll do significant damage with martial artist don't know why but it is correct It's gotta be a bug
how you learn taste of victory? also how you increase your evility common points? i only have 12 points and you have 18 points how you get that?how you learn happy song?
@@Primalliquid92 Man, I'm gonna need a lot of reincarnation fodder for this... If only I had a very convenient source of units to reincarnate, like around 100 prinnies or something like that...
@@GameAW1 Actually, you're better off super reincarnating one character a bunch of times (might as well do it for Zed's unique evility) after having bought all of the evilities in the skill shop.
You don't necissarily need 100m int on the mage. As long as you have Damage Convert, it'll work with whatever damage output you have. Once you start getting capped by Juice Bar costs, just run what you can. (I'm currently at 25m INT and do 19T/4.5m HL per attack) No where near where Primal is, but it's great for maxing out classes and getting the funds to increase the strength on my War Lady. (Means you can fight senators with higher stars, and get more of all the other resources. Quicker mana gain means you can pump more levels into the Elemental Burst skill for even more damage.) If you're looking for extracts, you can create a new character and spend ~100k mana to start them at level 9,999. If you already have the mana, that process is really quick and will get you just over 1m of all extracts from collecting the D-merits. Might be a quicker way, but that's just where I'm at right now.
What's the max juice bar exp stock u are able to farm with "Hog all exp" + "I need more war funds"? Right now im stack at max 260-300m per run, but i was wondering if there's some way to get even more
Still working on the setup for this, but already far outpacing what I was doing with the previous method. Now, if there was some method of getting Mana for damage, this could get broken right in half.
@@Primalliquid92 NICE! Thanks for your hard work, sir! Only other problem I'm having is Juice Bar EXP. Following your EXP guide setup, but the absolute most I'm getting is 700K, not the 120M you get from the same run at half the stars.
Hi Primal. I just wanted to ask, if you playing it fresh and wanted to start grinding the HL, what do I need first? In te video your mage is like already over 100M stats. Did you spend her on the juice? If yes then how you will get the HL beforehand? Thanks and sorry for long questions.
Since Disgaea 6 is so new it's almost impossible to google simple things about it, I'll try to save everyone reading this quite some time by filling in some gaps the the video maker left out: * Damage Reward evility comes from Super Reincarnation. The video says this, but doesn't add the clarifying detail that each time you super reincarnate any character (not just a mage), you get a random evility. Damage Reward is kinda rare, I spent about 1.5-2 hours save scumming reincarnating 5-ish characters to get it. * Elemental Burst comes from mage @ level 6000 * Martial Nemesis doesn't seem to come from the evility shop, and I saw a few other people speculating that it doesn't work anyway because the guy is a unique character and doesn't have a normal class. I couldn't test this because I couldn't find the evility.
i answered all of this in the video, and martial nemesis is from the evility shop once your character is level 9999 and ether that evility or the enemy is bugged because it DOES give a damage increase (i tested this when it was first brought up after making this video, 20Q damage without it and 30Q with it)
Hey man love your videos. I’m new to the series and had a quick question for you. Is the damage reward evility one you can get from super reincarnation or is it one you get from leveling a class?
@@luiscarlosmontalvo i'm guessing around 27 reincarnations (you can see in the video on the mage's stats) I'm on my 10th reincarnation and still haven't gotten ANY of the ones he mentioned. I wish he elaborated on how many reincarnations you need to get the specific evilities he used. I just kept on getting useless ones which you can easily buy at the skills shop :/ EDIT: I got the Handicap Evility on my 13th reincarnation. Will update as I get more of what was mentioned on this video.
@@Primalliquid92 Thanks, that was the problem, I dumped 40m into a mage who was only level 3k ish without thinking instead of into a new 9999 mage, I'll auto battle whilst I'm at work, I'll get the setup to work eventually, thank you.
Well I see one thing that I left!!: your 18 evil slots!! I only have 11 in total because its imposible to master all clases for the insane quantity of HL you need for mastering!! Maybe you can tell me a tip to master clases?? Argggg Im tired to the process
Using knockback to line up, and Hold the Line to keep in place and away from your units (thus unable to attack at all), 4 or 5* enemies on 1-1 has proven considerably faster. But I also understand not wanting to release *yet another* updated method! xD *(Not sure if spending two slots for Counter Contemptor and still letting the enemy attack once each turn, with 5 enemies, is better than just hitting 4 enemies, but I can confirm that 5 with counters is worse than 4 with no attacks.)
Oh also from my experience, adding Heroism does help a bit, if you set the anti-messiah's DI to "every 3 turns" "on witch" "use heroism", else defend. Casting every turn is certainly a waste of time, since it lasts 3 turns, and I'm pretty sure having the witch wait for the A-M will also slow it down, so that may explain PL's experience of it being too slow.
I'm not sure hero yarmada counts as a martial artist, that is what is displayed, but he doesn't count for things like defeating martial artist quests, I'm not sure how that translates into the evility, but I think martial nemesis might not be triggering. Just something to look out for, could be wrong, just looking to optimize.
ive looked into this, even though he has a warriors model with that evility i did 20q damage, with the martial artist one i was dealing 32q damage so hes for sure a martial artist (i go more indepth in some other comment replies if you wanna look at them)
Your videos are really insightful! Do you know what the max stat values for Atk, Def, Int, Res, Hit and Spd are for the Demo vs Full Game? I'm guessing those values are higher than they were for the other games since there's a new mode.
Personally, I don't think so mostly due to Disgaea 4 (and I think 5 and 1?) being Xbox Game Pass only? And NIS America doesn't want to deal with Sony's censorship, since they would have to almost completely change up one or more of the characters' design(s) to fit the criteria. I'd have loved for it to come to PS4, that being said.
@@felishonaka6745 what are you talking about. Disgaea 5, 4, 2 and 1 have PC ports. Disgaea 5 and 4 have a ports on both PS4 and switch. Disgaea 6 has a JP port on the PlayStation already and we are about to get a ENG switch port. I would argue they will eventually have it ported to the other platforms eventually especially if and when it gets a complete edition. The only one that is hard to come by these days is disgaea 3.
@@felishonaka6745 what are you talking about. Disgaea 5, 4, 2 and 1 have PC ports. Disgaea 5 and 4 have a ports on both PS4 and switch. Disgaea 6 has a JP port on the PlayStation already and we are about to get a ENG switch port. I would argue they will eventually have it ported to the other platforms eventually especially if and when it gets a complete edition. The only one that is hard to come by these days is disgaea 3.
@@riseofevillink Alright. Well, if they really do port it to PS4, then I was wrong. It was only a personal thought, really. I do know of the PC ports of 1, 2, 4 and 5. I have them, as well as 1, 4 and 5 on PS4 and 5 on Switch. If anything, I would love for D6 to come to PS4. Maybe I really don't know what I am talking about. My apologies.
I feel like the D-Merit method is better at first when your mage simply isn't strong enough to pull this off, but once you improve her, switching to this method is more ideal.
Primal, try changing DI to go to max range for specials. My mage keeps going behind the base panel and hitting the target, while he stands there. No attacks, no counters.
I thought so, too, but comparing damage numbers, Martial Enemy actually works on him rather than the one for warriors. I guess his looks and class just don't match?
Question, if I've been super-reincarnating my Zed a lot already. Would you recommend I keep reincarnating him for Taste of Victory/Mana Scarcity and just create a scroll when I get them or start reincarnating my Galaxy Mage? I have no idea how many times I've reincarnated my Zed or how many evilties are possible from Reincarnation, but those are the only two I'm missing for this setup. Also, I thought the Hero was a Warrior? Have I been using the wrong evility this whole time, lol.
yes, just reincarnate zed, its helpful to get all evilities on 1 character, it helps for his base evility (200% damage increase which is MASSIVELY broken in the full game) and more Dmerits. as for the 2-3 guy, hes ether bugged or the evility is bugged, i describe below in other comments about results from each one which you take a look at.
@@Psycoholic2008 I did some testing on my end, and I am convinced that neither one increased the damage he took. Yes, he's using the Warrior model, but his class is stated as the Human World Hero. In my opinion this is further highlighted by his class unique evility Domicile Defender instead of the typical Wild Cry that Warriors posses. Perhaps it's fixed in the full release.
@@Primalliquid92 isn't that the same thing that was in Disgaea 4 or was it 5 where there was this Reiatsu methoid to reincarnating did it involve that mode hence why it's called the Reiatsu methoid
One thing you needed to add in this video was how to get enough mana to buy thousands of levels on that skill, because a level 3500 skill or so is expensive. I think I could only get it to level 200 or something with the mana I had available. This method is very much dependent on that. I mean, I could get it to work, but obviously I'm only making millions instead of billions, and I'd need to auto-battle for weeks to do what you can do overnight.
Creating a new Character with level 9999 (which only costs 1 mana because of a bug in the demo) and turning in his D-Merits (you can delete this character then if you want to)
@@demariogoss9732 I maxed out damage boost to 100% and have this too lol. But I guess I didn't realize attack damage is separate from stats. So ya better without this.
no somebody else commented this and i tested them, ether the evility is bugged or the warrior on 2-3 is bugged, 20Q damage with the warrior one and 30q damage with the martial artist one
you need to master classes, 1 class mastered is 130% extra exp and then after that the dmerits reward you evility slots the more classes you have, on the demo you can have a max of 18 slots
as map stage 2-1 is better i think. more enemys that parial line up so that use more spells. my income is in this stace twice as much as 4:3 and 1 run only needs 10 seconds
except for the fact you need to add all the loading times on, also multiple enemies doesnt really benefit from much on the demo, yea you hit 2 things at once, but you also have to wait for more enemies to make there turns, further slowing it down. i dont get how you think your earning more once you factor in even just the loading times
@@Primalliquid92 The benefit from stage 2-1 is that the enemys are far apart so that they only trigger one counter attack which is not so powerfull and earns less hell per hit. On 2-3 the enemys is ther and the most kills happen per counter. less counter attacks -> more astral burst -> more hell for the same time. try it yourselfe and see you got similiar results for both stages i need around 10 seconds or 3 attacks from my mage. She is a little underpowert at the moment but my results are as followed: stage 2-1 : 10 seconds for an complete run/to get where i startet including load time and result screen etc: at least 1 million hell for 3 attacks on 5 enemys but only 1 counter attack Stage 2-3: 10 seconds for an complet run(see above): 0.38 till 0,8 MIllion hell for 3 attacksincluding 1-2 counterattacks on 1 enemy that regenerates
so checkt the times with a clock. stage 2-1 15 seconds from start to start screen with at least 1 mill hell as result stage 2-3 13 seconds from start to start screen with 0,35 to 0,84 MIllion hell
Uhh im a year late and the mage thing sound ok especially if ur hitting multiple things at once. But if your 1v1 what about the Martial Artist? He can force counter attacks and I think he had an evil that makes each counter stronger... PS: I have hated counter attacks in disgaea for a long time lol.
Doesn’t this make the whole game pointless then. Cause everyone will be doing this by now and then once full game is out they’ll have maxed out characters that I’m guessing post game and if there is LoC all whole be pointless as your one hitting everything. A game being 60 bucks and supposedly be say 50 -300 hours long will only take 1-2 hours to do everything instead
you should probably look up all the new things in Disgaea 6 (including the new stat and level caps) even with my ultimate complete guide its only gonna be enough to give you a headstart in postgame
@@Primalliquid92 Well what I know is Max Level is like 99,999,999, and Stats is like 999,999,999,999,999,999???? And going by the Stages I see a Diff. Mode. But IMO and Thinking those like you that do this will have enough to Max out maybe 1-2 Characters Base Stats. Have them with maybe 2nd if not 3rd or 4th Best Weapon and Armor, Leaving 1 Hour to Get the Best weapon and Armor, Get the MAX MAX Stat with Base weapon/Armor Stats, And another Hour to Max the Stats with weapon and Armor Give your Characters THE ULTIMATE MAX STAT. and then like a few Mins to Finish whatever Battle Maps that are left.............Sorry if that all seems Confusing , I have a disorder that makes it hard for me to write/type sentences clearly and correctly ...
correct, but ether he or the evility is bugged, martial artist is the one that gives you the bonus damage. feel free to do your own tests if you want to.
@@Primalliquid92 I tried with both and without, I got the same result. My guess is that he’s counted as a boss and not as a regular enemy class. It’s better to use the 20% star boost for this method.
Excuse me but I dont reach this extta ppwer you have of 334 million damage and I have level 9999, have the weapon at level 99, weapon mastery at max of 99, profiency at max, the almighty weapon staff same at you and I dont have your damage!! What happened?? Only 7 milliom damage I have, dont understand if I have same magic like you and the evilities too.
@@anthonynonoya4486 When you reincarnate a character, you are given an evility at random. That is how you get them, just reincarnating and hope that you eventually get what you need. The video just says "from reincarnation" and doesn't explain assuming you knew about this which I didn't either until I tried a few times and eventually got damage reward.
It probably just straight up shows you on his status page, if it doesn't you can check his evilities in combat and it shows you his current damage boost from his unique evility.
the FF9 was stream only, streams went over to twitch and was finished ages ago, heck we've even finished Resident evil village and an FF13 rando now lol
until youtube pull there finger out of there arse and work with creators instead of agaisnt them twitch is by far the superior platform to stream on for both the creator and the viewer, the amount of things you can intergrate with twitch streams is unreal versus not being able to intergrate anything with youtube
@@Primalliquid92 yeah I get you. TH-cam/apple/Nintendo all need a rectal thrashing and brought down a peg or two. Just like the ads. Pushed me to use a adblocker.
if ads are to much id say get youtube premium, its cheap and supports those you watch even more than just watching ads does instead of going the ad block route where people dont earn anything at all
I have loved disgaea since I first got cursedmemories then completed every single one including vita remakes since then. However this game looks like crap and it hurts. How did they downgrade animations from 2D and simultaneously go from looking hi grade retro, to a DS game...
Hey personally I love the new look performance is great on balanced mode and still looks nice. I've talked to others who really like it as well all a matter of preference.
because the game is a glorified mobile game built entirely upon the auto grind feature and those silly x10 tickets for sale. trying to do the postgame without any form of auto battle would take years to get strong enough
"In this video, we're going to answer the question of just how powerful you can get before the actual disgaea 6 game comes out."
i mean, im kinda doing 120 quadrillion damage right now if that matters xD
@@Primalliquid92 dude pass me that save data to my switch no CAP.
There is a 2 cost evilty Counter Contemptor that gets rid of counter attacks. Instead of mana scarcity and star blessing you could go Head-to-Head to get the needed slots that are available during the demo. I'm not sure if the numbers would pan out though since you'd be losing out on that 10% star damage and 20% extra damage from mana scarcity since head to head only gives +30%.
To add on to this, you can also use Damage Convert instead of Taste of Victory to save 1 evility slot with this method, since Damage Convert will get your INT to +100% after taking 10 hits
@@mistahmeowmerz3128 Can also get rid of the martial nemesis, since the warrior isn't considered either a martial artist nor a warrior, he's a unique, and not counted as a generic, as a result. Honestly could just pull the +40% star element damage evility for a 4 slot
What I did to prevent the counters was just throw the enemy into a corner and then trap them with the 2 geo blocks
Because of handicap, the mage can't actually destroy the geo either, so it's doubling her damage output while trapping the enemy and preventing countering, but it does take a moment to setup.
Worthwhile if you're going to let it sit there and run awhile for HL though.
@@MHChrono Great advice, this helped me out a ton on my 1st round of HL grinding.
@@iDannyPhant0m it's even better if you can go to 1-4 and use the Prinny Killer evility for +50% damage for one evility point. You can line 4 of them up at a time and deal massive damage to them.
This takes awhile to set up, but its worth it. There are 5 prinnies in the stage, but I recommend just using 4 instead so you dont have to worry about their attacks or counters slowing you down. Do it on 0 stars so they dont have an ability that adds sleep/amnesia, I gave a group of units Hold the Line, Handicap, and Shockwave making sure they were at least over level 100 so they were a higher level than the prinnies so handicap would work, I used shockwave to push them to the back of the map, forming a wall with my units so they couldnt pass, then used "Hold the line" to make a barrier they couldn't pass, standing a space away so they couldn't attack my units, setting their D.I. to defend and facing them to the side to create this barrier every round automatically. then I'd just send any units not being used in this wall back into the base panel and bring out the mage to start spamming for money.
She's easily earning trillions for me with this method (I expect nearly 1 trillion an hour by the time I get the final levels of enhancement finished)
This man is too powerful, he cannot be stopped.
i also may or may not have some EXP/Mana videos coming out soon aswell which are far better than my other ones xD
@@Primalliquid92 Nice can't wait until the game comes out
What I do to stop the counterattacks is basically to also use a build that involves a secondary attacker loading them up with status effects paralyze and charm, along with the evilities that increase charm and paralyze damage. It's an extra attack per turn but it could be relevant! I had no idea this elemental burst ability existed, sounds like I'm heading back to the lab o-o! Legendary stuff.
yea i tried this aswell but proved to earn less than just dealing with the counters (since each counter still gives a few million HL anyway)
I was just about to comment on your recent how to get a lot of money video until I saw this........ 1st my friend showed me your video on how to get to level 9999 already in the demo which I find funny because I already see a good chunk of your videos, then there was your old method of making HL and now this........ I am almost certain that you're secretly an overlord lol. Great job!!!!
err, no i dont know what you mean im totally not an overlord i swear... *nervous laughter*
Nice guide! Could you also make a guide on getting Evilities from Super Reincarnation?
I’ve love Disgaea ever since PS2, so I won’t say its because of you. THAT said, you have gotten me hype AF for D6, to the point that right now my game is grinding. 😂
With damage convert, you get 10% int every time you get attacked, which will cap you at 100% int very quickly. You can use this instead of taste of victory for the same damage increase for one less evility slot. The drawback is that you need to get attacked 10 times before you cap out, but that'll just take 2-4 turns depending on how many counters you trigger. The extra slot more than makes up for it.
indeed, i already switched to using it over taste of victory, im still testing different set ups though to try and get the absolute maximum damage possible so there might even be a newer video soon
@@Primalliquid92 Cool. Have you considered using status effects and death fang, which increases damage against paralysed opponents by 100% for 3 slots? You could have a secondary character using normal attacks with bad trip equipped. You could also take 5 enemies and trap them in a line with defending units for the mage to spam elemental burst on. Or maybe a mix of the two.
@@Denamic I'm using Prinny Poacher for +50% damage on 1-4 and Hold the Line to keep them in place after using Handicap and Shockwave to knock them against the back of the map.
I've tried Counter Contemptor and it just doesn't seem worth it for the damage loss plus the normal enemy attack animation time each round, so I've been blasting 4 prinnies at a time 1 square away instead.
Current Evilities: Damage Reward, Mana Scarcity, Handicap, Magic Collection, Damage Convert, Prinny Poacher, and Meteor Blessing. But if anyone has suggestions on what would be better, I'm all ears.
Hi how many times do I have to reincarnate to get damage reward pls help meee
This is great! I wonder if Misedor's "Golden Touch" would be worth having him stand next to the base panel.
no that only effects on kill hl
@@Primalliquid92 Ah, that's unfortunate. A gunslinger with "Marking" for 25% extra damage maybe?
How do you complete the stage if you have Handicap on?
Have all the evilities except Damage Reward... Just super reincarnating again and again until I can find it I guess.
Does the amount of SP you have max affect it at all? I'm assuming its just an INT based skill, but since it always costs max SP, curious if the amount of SP affects it at all.
(I know it would normally SHOW what stat affects it but... idk, never seen SP in a description before)
SP does not effect it no
I got all the evilities, and it's netting me about 27 billion an hour at current stats, very nice method!
Guess I just need to keep reincarnating and using essences to get more INT, and keep pumping mana into the ability power.
ability level is your biggest increase, so id suggest a big mana farm
HEY.
Misedor is a hidden gem for this money making thing.
Millionaire Monarch raises his stats by 5% per digit of money owned.
It caps at 100%, and shares the same cap with evilities, which quickly makes Zed far superior, even assuming you amass 10 Quintillion HL.
I am amused by the evility that heals adjacent allies for 10% of your HL though...
I have fundamentally immortal units unless something can one-shot me at this point.
@@MHChrono deathblow is a thing im series.
He found an even better way just when I was still setting up for the previous way
haha sorry, but i really dont see anything being better than this on the demo (hell even this is TO MUCH for the demo) this is going to be enough HL now to seriously make a dent even in postgame things
@@Primalliquid92 when you learn how to become beyond a God of Destruction before the game is even officially released
still working but my sage only has 100M in INT and out of extracts. working a full time job does not help matters for taking time to farm mana and extracts from the dark assembly.
thanks for the help :)
Is anyone going to point out the error in the Evilites? he picked Martial artist when he's fighting a warrior.
It's right martial artist Is the right one
@@silencepain3233 No as he needs Warrior killer. Martial artists are the stereo-typical Bruce lee like characters. 7:02 clearly shows he's against a warrior class. I do have the game so I know which class is which and the required evilities.
If you're so right tested yourself you'll be surprised it is martial artist not Warrior killer You'll do significant damage with martial artist don't know why but it is correct It's gotta be a bug
@@silencepain3233 So translating what you're saying. I'm correct as it's the wrong killer but because of a bug it is somehow the right one?
@@riicky83 So you didn't test it I get what you're saying That's more damage that's all we care about more damage more HL
how you learn taste of victory? also how you increase your evility common points? i only have 12 points and you have 18 points how you get that?how you learn happy song?
Oh, Taste of Victory is the reward for the "10 000 Repeat Stage" quest.
you can also get it via super reincarnation (alot faster)
@@Primalliquid92 Man, I'm gonna need a lot of reincarnation fodder for this... If only I had a very convenient source of units to reincarnate, like around 100 prinnies or something like that...
@@GameAW1 Actually, you're better off super reincarnating one character a bunch of times (might as well do it for Zed's unique evility) after having bought all of the evilities in the skill shop.
Aaaay. Didn’t expect you to actually use my method. (:
slightly changed to remove the loading screens (MASSIVE time waste) :)
I can't wait for what you can do in the full game
the full game is gonna get absolutely destroyed lol
I have one doubt, how can we end the farm? I mean, the mage cant kill It due to handicap.
Thanks in advance!
you just bring another unit out...
@@Primalliquid92 Thats seems.... Reasonable hahaha
Sorry i am a total noob here, this is my first Disagea.
Thanks for all the guides!
couldn't you set up multiple galaxy mates with this or would that also be the same or less per hour?
it would be less because then your splitting the resources across multiple units
So what's the best way to get set up for this method? Getting the 100M int on the mage that is
You don't necissarily need 100m int on the mage. As long as you have Damage Convert, it'll work with whatever damage output you have. Once you start getting capped by Juice Bar costs, just run what you can. (I'm currently at 25m INT and do 19T/4.5m HL per attack) No where near where Primal is, but it's great for maxing out classes and getting the funds to increase the strength on my War Lady. (Means you can fight senators with higher stars, and get more of all the other resources. Quicker mana gain means you can pump more levels into the Elemental Burst skill for even more damage.)
If you're looking for extracts, you can create a new character and spend ~100k mana to start them at level 9,999. If you already have the mana, that process is really quick and will get you just over 1m of all extracts from collecting the D-merits. Might be a quicker way, but that's just where I'm at right now.
What's the max juice bar exp stock u are able to farm with "Hog all exp" + "I need more war funds"? Right now im stack at max 260-300m per run, but i was wondering if there's some way to get even more
im getting between 1.1 billion and 1.5 billion a fight currently, im going make a video on it later or tomorrow
Mmmm and another thing: where you obtain the sword, rabbit and gloves armor you equipped?? This is another thing I dont have! :(
Still working on the setup for this, but already far outpacing what I was doing with the previous method. Now, if there was some method of getting Mana for damage, this could get broken right in half.
you err, might like the video im uploading tomorrow if you want mana
@@Primalliquid92 NICE! Thanks for your hard work, sir!
Only other problem I'm having is Juice Bar EXP. Following your EXP guide setup, but the absolute most I'm getting is 700K, not the 120M you get from the same run at half the stars.
Nevermind. The difference is Happy Song.
juice bar is a little different, ill be making a video on how to get 1.1-1.5 billion EXP per fight for that
@@Primalliquid92 You're a LEGEND, sir.
Amazing!!!!! How do you get Damage Reward????
For those who need as well, just reincarnate again and again
@@NerddeGravata how many times do you reincarnate ?
@@luiscarlosmontalvo around 31 times... But on a second char I got with 7 times... is totally random
Hi Primal. I just wanted to ask, if you playing it fresh and wanted to start grinding the HL, what do I need first? In te video your mage is like already over 100M stats. Did you spend her on the juice? If yes then how you will get the HL beforehand? Thanks and sorry for long questions.
Since Disgaea 6 is so new it's almost impossible to google simple things about it, I'll try to save everyone reading this quite some time by filling in some gaps the the video maker left out:
* Damage Reward evility comes from Super Reincarnation. The video says this, but doesn't add the clarifying detail that each time you super reincarnate any character (not just a mage), you get a random evility. Damage Reward is kinda rare, I spent about 1.5-2 hours save scumming reincarnating 5-ish characters to get it.
* Elemental Burst comes from mage @ level 6000
* Martial Nemesis doesn't seem to come from the evility shop, and I saw a few other people speculating that it doesn't work anyway because the guy is a unique character and doesn't have a normal class. I couldn't test this because I couldn't find the evility.
i answered all of this in the video, and martial nemesis is from the evility shop once your character is level 9999 and ether that evility or the enemy is bugged because it DOES give a damage increase (i tested this when it was first brought up after making this video, 20Q damage without it and 30Q with it)
how do i save? handicap wont let me save
what? handicap has nothing to do with that you probably turned auto save off in the settings
@@Primalliquid92 ya i brought in another unit without the handicap thank u tho
Hey man love your videos. I’m new to the series and had a quick question for you. Is the damage reward evility one you can get from super reincarnation or is it one you get from leveling a class?
its from super reincarnation
@@Primalliquid92 how many times do you need reincarnate for ibtain that evility?
@@luiscarlosmontalvo i'm guessing around 27 reincarnations (you can see in the video on the mage's stats) I'm on my 10th reincarnation and still haven't gotten ANY of the ones he mentioned. I wish he elaborated on how many reincarnations you need to get the specific evilities he used. I just kept on getting useless ones which you can easily buy at the skills shop :/
EDIT: I got the Handicap Evility on my 13th reincarnation. Will update as I get more of what was mentioned on this video.
You need to have mage at 6*s for the skill? It has to be a star type mage for the skill?
no, any mage, skill is unlocked around level 6000 iirc
@@Primalliquid92 Thanks, that was the problem, I dumped 40m into a mage who was only level 3k ish without thinking instead of into a new 9999 mage, I'll auto battle whilst I'm at work, I'll get the setup to work eventually, thank you.
Have no been able to work out how to unlock galaxy mage yet. Got ever other class, usinng fire witch atm.
Well I see one thing that I left!!: your 18 evil slots!! I only have 11 in total because its imposible to master all clases for the insane quantity of HL you need for mastering!! Maybe you can tell me a tip to master clases?? Argggg Im tired to the process
Using knockback to line up, and Hold the Line to keep in place and away from your units (thus unable to attack at all), 4 or 5* enemies on 1-1 has proven considerably faster. But I also understand not wanting to release *yet another* updated method! xD
*(Not sure if spending two slots for Counter Contemptor and still letting the enemy attack once each turn, with 5 enemies, is better than just hitting 4 enemies, but I can confirm that 5 with counters is worse than 4 with no attacks.)
Oh also from my experience, adding Heroism does help a bit, if you set the anti-messiah's DI to "every 3 turns" "on witch" "use heroism", else defend. Casting every turn is certainly a waste of time, since it lasts 3 turns, and I'm pretty sure having the witch wait for the A-M will also slow it down, so that may explain PL's experience of it being too slow.
I'm not sure hero yarmada counts as a martial artist, that is what is displayed, but he doesn't count for things like defeating martial artist quests, I'm not sure how that translates into the evility, but I think martial nemesis might not be triggering. Just something to look out for, could be wrong, just looking to optimize.
ive looked into this, even though he has a warriors model with that evility i did 20q damage, with the martial artist one i was dealing 32q damage so hes for sure a martial artist (i go more indepth in some other comment replies if you wanna look at them)
Your videos are really insightful! Do you know what the max stat values for Atk, Def, Int, Res, Hit and Spd are for the Demo vs Full Game? I'm guessing those values are higher than they were for the other games since there's a new mode.
Rasetsu mode? It was in Disgaea D2... yeah no one remembers that one.
I can’t wait for u to do the full game tutorials thanks for the vids🔥…. Also do you think this will ever come to playstation or Xbox
Eventually it will, but probably not any time soon
Personally, I don't think so mostly due to Disgaea 4 (and I think 5 and 1?) being Xbox Game Pass only? And NIS America doesn't want to deal with Sony's censorship, since they would have to almost completely change up one or more of the characters' design(s) to fit the criteria. I'd have loved for it to come to PS4, that being said.
@@felishonaka6745 what are you talking about. Disgaea 5, 4, 2 and 1 have PC ports. Disgaea 5 and 4 have a ports on both PS4 and switch. Disgaea 6 has a JP port on the PlayStation already and we are about to get a ENG switch port. I would argue they will eventually have it ported to the other platforms eventually especially if and when it gets a complete edition. The only one that is hard to come by these days is disgaea 3.
@@felishonaka6745 what are you talking about. Disgaea 5, 4, 2 and 1 have PC ports. Disgaea 5 and 4 have a ports on both PS4 and switch. Disgaea 6 has a JP port on the PlayStation already and we are about to get a ENG switch port. I would argue they will eventually have it ported to the other platforms eventually especially if and when it gets a complete edition. The only one that is hard to come by these days is disgaea 3.
@@riseofevillink Alright. Well, if they really do port it to PS4, then I was wrong. It was only a personal thought, really. I do know of the PC ports of 1, 2, 4 and 5. I have them, as well as 1, 4 and 5 on PS4 and 5 on Switch. If anything, I would love for D6 to come to PS4. Maybe I really don't know what I am talking about. My apologies.
That's awesome. But shouldn't you change Martial Nemesis into Warrior Killer since Yarmada is a Warrior, not a Martial Artist?
shit, your right i completely made a mistake there
ok ive just gone and tested and no, it is Martial Nemesis thats required, 32Q damage with that, vs 20Q damage with Warrior killer
@@Primalliquid92 Its neither, Yamada is a unique character, neither of those work on him.
@@Primalliquid92 I was just thinking this. Glad I got an answer :)
How did you get the Elementel burst?
level a witch up to around level 6000 I believe
it's their ultimate skill ^^
Does the demo carry over to the main game this time around? Probably not right?
yes it does, just like the D5 demo did
Is there a way for Zed to learn other class skills or that still locked out for now?
its locked, you need scrolls from the IW
I feel like the D-Merit method is better at first when your mage simply isn't strong enough to pull this off, but once you improve her, switching to this method is more ideal.
witch
How do you unlock more evelities slots ?
mastering classes
Been looking for this question/answer for hours
Primal, try changing DI to go to max range for specials. My mage keeps going behind the base panel and hitting the target, while he stands there. No attacks, no counters.
nah movement takes time and even with the counters its still extra HL
Yo how do you get Demonic intelligence I don't have it.
demonic assembly
How do you get to 18 slots for evility?
Master all the classes that there currently are in the demo
@@DarknessXER so on full release in 3 days,will we get evility slots due to the remaining monster classes being added?
@@knightmare4883 once you master those classes of course
Isn't Hero Yamada (the 2-3 "boss") Warrior tho?
I thought so, too, but comparing damage numbers, Martial Enemy actually works on him rather than the one for warriors. I guess his looks and class just don't match?
Question, if I've been super-reincarnating my Zed a lot already. Would you recommend I keep reincarnating him for Taste of Victory/Mana Scarcity and just create a scroll when I get them or start reincarnating my Galaxy Mage? I have no idea how many times I've reincarnated my Zed or how many evilties are possible from Reincarnation, but those are the only two I'm missing for this setup.
Also, I thought the Hero was a Warrior? Have I been using the wrong evility this whole time, lol.
yes, just reincarnate zed, its helpful to get all evilities on 1 character, it helps for his base evility (200% damage increase which is MASSIVELY broken in the full game) and more Dmerits. as for the 2-3 guy, hes ether bugged or the evility is bugged, i describe below in other comments about results from each one which you take a look at.
@@Primalliquid92 Awesome thank you.
@@Psycoholic2008 I did some testing on my end, and I am convinced that neither one increased the damage he took. Yes, he's using the Warrior model, but his class is stated as the Human World Hero. In my opinion this is further highlighted by his class unique evility Domicile Defender instead of the typical Wild Cry that Warriors posses. Perhaps it's fixed in the full release.
when do you get the Damage reward evility? can you get it with any mage?
This method works!
Amazing!
Is their a faster way to farm extracts or is their just the d medal trick?
for stats, just the D merit trick, for EXP? stay tuned for tomorrow's video
@@Primalliquid92 thanks dude
what did you mean by Riatsu mode near the end of the video.
its like carnage mode only even harder. theres 3 modes in disgaea 6. Normal mode, Carnage mode (aka LoC) and Reiatsu mode which is a new difficulty
@@Primalliquid92 isn't that the same thing that was in Disgaea 4 or was it 5 where there was this Reiatsu methoid to reincarnating
did it involve that mode hence why it's called the Reiatsu methoid
One thing you needed to add in this video was how to get enough mana to buy thousands of levels on that skill, because a level 3500 skill or so is expensive. I think I could only get it to level 200 or something with the mana I had available. This method is very much dependent on that. I mean, I could get it to work, but obviously I'm only making millions instead of billions, and I'd need to auto-battle for weeks to do what you can do overnight.
i have a video coming out tomorrow for massive mana gains
@@Primalliquid92 thanks! that would be really helpful!
At this rate he will kill baal in the demo before the release date.
I think baal has a restraining order on him, tbh. Lol
What is the fastest way to get Stats extracts?
Creating a new Character with level 9999 (which only costs 1 mana because of a bug in the demo) and turning in his D-Merits (you can delete this character then if you want to)
I wonder what challenges you could do in the full game
Finish the game on the first map
Honestly this guy is crazy
i prefer the term psychotic thank you! xD
@@Primalliquid92 Well either way it gives you superpower so it's all good xD
Counter contemplater incrases stats by 20% and turns off counter attacks
Pretty sure he considered that. He likely ignored counter contemptor because it's a stat raising evility, not a damage boosting one.
@@demariogoss9732 I maxed out damage boost to 100% and have this too lol. But I guess I didn't realize attack damage is separate from stats. So ya better without this.
4:53 shouldn't you swap this for warrior? 2-3 isn't a Martial Artist.
Yes I enjoyed the guide
no somebody else commented this and i tested them, ether the evility is bugged or the warrior on 2-3 is bugged, 20Q damage with the warrior one and 30q damage with the martial artist one
@@Primalliquid92 Thanks for letting me know.
How do I change my mages type to Star type please?
Promote her. Also, the spell in question is the Mage's ultimate spell anyway so it doesn't matter which mage type you use.
How do you get 18 evility slots? I'm stuck with 12
you need to master classes, 1 class mastered is 130% extra exp and then after that the dmerits reward you evility slots the more classes you have, on the demo you can have a max of 18 slots
How do you get Taste of Victory?
Either randomly through Super Reincarnation, or it's the reward for the 10 000 Repeat Stage quest
@@CeriugEniledam Thank you
i suggest the super reincarnation method, much much faster than doing 10,000 repeat stages
How do you get elemental burst
level up a witch
Too want level
as map stage 2-1 is better i think.
more enemys that parial line up so that use more spells. my income is in this stace twice as much as 4:3 and 1 run only needs 10 seconds
except for the fact you need to add all the loading times on, also multiple enemies doesnt really benefit from much on the demo, yea you hit 2 things at once, but you also have to wait for more enemies to make there turns, further slowing it down. i dont get how you think your earning more once you factor in even just the loading times
@@Primalliquid92 The benefit from stage 2-1 is that the enemys are far apart so that they only trigger one counter attack which is not so powerfull and earns less hell per hit.
On 2-3 the enemys is ther and the most kills happen per counter.
less counter attacks -> more astral burst -> more hell
for the same time. try it yourselfe and see you got similiar results
for both stages i need around 10 seconds or 3 attacks from my mage.
She is a little underpowert at the moment but my results are as followed:
stage 2-1 : 10 seconds for an complete run/to get where i startet including load time and result screen etc:
at least 1 million hell for 3 attacks on 5 enemys but only 1 counter attack
Stage 2-3: 10 seconds for an complet run(see above):
0.38 till 0,8 MIllion hell for 3 attacksincluding 1-2 counterattacks on 1 enemy that regenerates
so checkt the times with a clock.
stage 2-1 15 seconds from start to start screen with at least 1 mill hell as result
stage 2-3 13 seconds from start to start screen with 0,35 to 0,84 MIllion hell
exactly, not remove those loading times by using handicap and you'll notice you earn alot more
1-2 has boxes you can throw in a line. 5 hits per turn with no counters speeding this up insanely fast.
Classes baby, maxing those classes.
this still work? or is it patched now
it works but theres a much better method in the full game
I am pretty sure that he is a Warrior, not a Martial Artist.
ether the evility or the enemy is bugged, you can test it yourself if you want martial nemesis is the one which gives the damage increase
I can't find the Damage reward and Mana scarcity. halp.
they're both from super reincarnation
Uhh im a year late and the mage thing sound ok especially if ur hitting multiple things at once. But if your 1v1 what about the Martial Artist? He can force counter attacks and I think he had an evil that makes each counter stronger...
PS: I have hated counter attacks in disgaea for a long time lol.
How have you broken the game to this extent? XD We’re going to see a “how overpowered can you get before the game even releases?”
nevermind i figured it out lol thank u again
My highest stat now are 1.2 million per stat
Doesn’t this make the whole game pointless then. Cause everyone will be doing this by now and then once full game is out they’ll have maxed out characters that I’m guessing post game and if there is LoC all whole be pointless as your one hitting everything. A game being 60 bucks and supposedly be say 50 -300 hours long will only take 1-2 hours to do everything instead
you should probably look up all the new things in Disgaea 6 (including the new stat and level caps) even with my ultimate complete guide its only gonna be enough to give you a headstart in postgame
@@Primalliquid92 Well what I know is Max Level is like 99,999,999, and Stats is like 999,999,999,999,999,999???? And going by the Stages I see a Diff. Mode. But IMO and Thinking those like you that do this will have enough to Max out maybe 1-2 Characters Base Stats. Have them with maybe 2nd if not 3rd or 4th Best Weapon and Armor, Leaving 1 Hour to Get the Best weapon and Armor, Get the MAX MAX Stat with Base weapon/Armor Stats, And another Hour to Max the Stats with weapon and Armor Give your Characters THE ULTIMATE MAX STAT. and then like a few Mins to Finish whatever Battle Maps that are left.............Sorry if that all seems Confusing , I have a disorder that makes it hard for me to write/type sentences clearly and correctly ...
wait the mob in that map should be a warrior not a martial artist
correct, but ether he or the evility is bugged, martial artist is the one that gives you the bonus damage. feel free to do your own tests if you want to.
@@Primalliquid92 I tried with both and without, I got the same result. My guess is that he’s counted as a boss and not as a regular enemy class. It’s better to use the 20% star boost for this method.
Excuse me but I dont reach this extta ppwer you have of 334 million damage and I have level 9999, have the weapon at level 99, weapon mastery at max of 99, profiency at max, the almighty weapon staff same at you and I dont have your damage!! What happened?? Only 7 milliom damage I have, dont understand if I have same magic like you and the evilities too.
Didn't we just get a guide and here comes another lol 😆
the last disgaea guide was the other day xD
Why not make lets play disgaea rpg?
When’s legend of dragoon
So, without telling me what classes I need for those other evilities this is pretty much entirely useless.
well, if you had actually listened then you'll have known that i DID tell you how to get the evilities
@@Primalliquid92 except I did listen. You listed the evilities, mentioned one was from the mage, two were from the shop, and nothing about the others
@@anthonynonoya4486 When you reincarnate a character, you are given an evility at random. That is how you get them, just reincarnating and hope that you eventually get what you need. The video just says "from reincarnation" and doesn't explain assuming you knew about this which I didn't either until I tried a few times and eventually got damage reward.
exactly you get it from reincarnation, its self explanatory
@@Primalliquid92 no it's not self explanatory. This is a demo so not everyone is familiar with the game, and any tutorial should not omit details.
Do you know if there's a way to tell how many times you've reincarnated Zed?
It probably just straight up shows you on his status page, if it doesn't you can check his evilities in combat and it shows you his current damage boost from his unique evility.
it says in his status page
Seems like they patched this out. I keep doing 0 on the second attack
Did the ff9 rando get cancelled?
the FF9 was stream only, streams went over to twitch and was finished ages ago, heck we've even finished Resident evil village and an FF13 rando now lol
@@Primalliquid92 Oh eww twitch. Thanks though
until youtube pull there finger out of there arse and work with creators instead of agaisnt them twitch is by far the superior platform to stream on for both the creator and the viewer, the amount of things you can intergrate with twitch streams is unreal versus not being able to intergrate anything with youtube
@@Primalliquid92 yeah I get you. TH-cam/apple/Nintendo all need a rectal thrashing and brought down a peg or two. Just like the ads. Pushed me to use a adblocker.
if ads are to much id say get youtube premium, its cheap and supports those you watch even more than just watching ads does instead of going the ad block route where people dont earn anything at all
man, this is how a demo is done
why use martial nemesis though
Yeah I think he got that part wrong, the enemy is a warrior
@@MagnaAdrias1 no the enemy isn't a warrior it's a unique class
@elwinroyale
No. the enemy is literally using the warrior model lmao. Don't be an A-hole.
Equip a weapon that has a charm innocent and it will solve the counter problem.
I did this by accident until I checked my weapon.
Well not much i don't want to be extreme powerfully before the game ones its out ill go super sayian lol
i fucking love this game!!!!!!!!!!!! love it
The only mistake in this video is calling the Healer a "her".
the healer used to be a her and changing it to a guy only was just kinda pointless, ill probably always refer to it as a "her"
How is your intelligence so damn high at 9999??
reincarnations and stat boosts on level ups
10:02 the song is anoying change it pls but the character dont ffs
HELP ME PLEASEEE!! :(
I have loved disgaea since I first got cursedmemories then completed every single one including vita remakes since then. However this game looks like crap and it hurts. How did they downgrade animations from 2D and simultaneously go from looking hi grade retro, to a DS game...
Hey personally I love the new look performance is great on balanced mode and still looks nice. I've talked to others who really like it as well all a matter of preference.
Man disgaea 6 content is so dead right now
because the game is a glorified mobile game built entirely upon the auto grind feature and those silly x10 tickets for sale. trying to do the postgame without any form of auto battle would take years to get strong enough
How you get more evilite slots?
Master multiple classes