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@@BOOKET2007 If you're only going for the dmerit reward, you can do reincarnations at level 1. Just give your guy 100-200 mana from the juice bar to have the mana for reincarnation. If you have the mana/HL/juice bar XP to spare you could give the character some levels through the juice bar too to bank a little karma at the same time? Totally optional tho and can be expensive.
I know some people don't love the auto battle and auto renew options but I love it. Not paying in the hospital not actually having to go from shop to shop, it's great!
Just a follow up to answer my own question.. If you try to use more extract than that required to boost a stat to max (500b boost max), it will only use the extract needed and there will be some left over in the juice bar.
Important note: if HL gain from Damage Reward is turning out to be a bottleneck, do what you can to increase your target characters' HP, if you're deathblowing your allies. Since deathblows force you to do the target's max HP in damage-not a point more, nor less-you'll either want to increase their HP or, if you can do enough damage, remove Seal of Betrayal.
A fun thing I noticed that might make use of this ingenious method, is that I noticed that friendly kills also enhance the kill bonus in items. If you used the evility that let allies revive once per stage, and had them all congregate around an enemy every map and get deathblowed at max level you could theoretically gaurantee 9 max level character kills per map, even on a carnage or normal item. This could let you farm extracts, and kill bonus, while diving through an item world and grinding item points and innocents. ....And, killing your own units also can spawn chests @_@;
*scribbling frantically in notebook* The good advice just keeps coming! Wait, once per stage? Does that refresh between IW floors if you only kill your allies once on each floor?
Ahh! You CAN make a character do nothing in D.I. by using "Wait until other units have acted". I noticed while looking at an enemy's D.I. that some of their trains of thought end with "Wait until other units have acted", and an empty slot next to it. I decided to give it a try in my stat farm targets' D.I.s, and lo and behold, it works! No skill is needed, no need for defending, and Beiko will still attack! Update: It seems ANY "Do What?" node, even if it has an output, can function as an ending action. The targets' D.I.s can even just consist of: Enemy Forces -> Move toward target
Can you do a video on what to do as soon as you hit the post game? A lot of these OP guides are good but there is little to no information on how to even get to the point where you can do this type of content.
Yeah I love the videos but I'm curious if you can make one like you did for the demo of how you get overpowered with the steps by steps. It'll be great if you can make a similar video but for the post story mode. Hahaha just slogging through to get up to just level 1 million XD
I'm just curious, new to your channel, but not new to the game. Has anyone ever mentioned that you pronounce "evility" wrong? I'm nor trying yo nitpick about accents, but the whole point of the word is to be a play on the words "evil" (since we play as demons) and "Ability". The emphasis should be on the second syllable instead of the first. Great video, and mean no negativity, it's just I love all the nuance of these games.
Is there a difference between "Increase stats by X%" and "Increase attacking stat by X%"? You said (I think in this video, but I've been watching so many) that the max stat increase from exilities is 100%. But Desco has an evility that says: You can't be dispatched if there's other ally units on the map, other ally units can't be dispatched if you're on the map. Increase stats by 100%, increase attacking stat by 100%, increase defending stat by 100%. So I'm guessing there is a difference between "attacking stat" and just plain "stat" for stacking evilities?
@@Primalliquid92 Doesn’t need to be for Disgaea. Any of your over powered videos are nice. Even if you did a classic action RPG like KotOR or something.
If the stat boost from the juice bar is 500B, has anyone tried using more extract? I am wondering if it wont actually let you use more extract than it would take to get the 500B boost OR if it lets you use it but just stops boosting. My hope is that it cuts you off from using more in any given stat. I really dont want to have to try to figure out where to stop dropping extracts into a specific stat on a specific character.
My stats are stuck at 999,999,999,999 and when I try to put them to 1 trillion at juice bar, it takes it back down to 999 Billion, how do I break the stat cap?
So other than the satisfaction of having fully maxed stats, is there a practical reason to do it? Like is Raksasha Baal really just that insane a super boss?
@@Primalliquid92 have you tried making 100 characters with the recycle spirit to just lift up baal while the rest of your party members attack him every round?
Hi there, I was using the method you use here and started maxing a character but, for some reason, I can't use any more juice on her intelligence (she's currently at 6.000.000.0000.000 (and that's using fetters) does anybody know why is this happening? how can I fix it?
Hey man I don't know if you know already but the season pass is out for the game right now not too important considering that the only dlc characters out right now which are Mao and Raspberyl (which you can buy individually). But if I'm right you said in a previous Disgaea 6 video you said he has an evility that helps with exp gain. On a side note though I've watched all you're Disgaea and Final Fantasy videos and I think they're great. I really like watching how you break these games and then how you teach us in a very comprehensive way on how you did it, keep up the good work man!
How much mov do you need to make them gather into AOE range? Everyone in my group has like no less than 8mov and it's the ones with the highest movement that stand outside the range
its because your 8mv characters are taking the closest spots so your higher move characters are struggling to get to the back, i found about 15mv on everybody left me with no issues
Games not out till next month (in a week) ima losing me plot, feel like a kid waiting "I wanna" "i wanna i wanna i wanna" Great job 2 respect on the grind
@@Primalliquid92 EB ballarat AUS I pre ordered a physical copy, an here it's not releasing until the 6th (and got pushed back a day so the 7th now) ima gonna go in check it out tomorrowz. Just looked at wiki AU flipping 9th now
Once I reach the point where I can start doing this, I would want to at least try fully maxing out a single character. Any reason to try maxing any out other than to see how powerful you can make them at that point?
@@Primalliquid92 Well... I saw Zed, Misedor, Majolene and Prism ranger story character which I can´t for the live of me remember the name for pretty easily murder Baal thanks to attack range and support attacks. They got like 5 attacks in a row. So even Baal could not really do anything but just take the damage. Most of them were max stats for that. But otherwise yes. Baal is a true demon and is just getting harder and harder for each game.
I still can't seem to get it to work. Everyone has more than enough movement to get to the right spot, but she just won't go to the right spot and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. It was working before I did... something, which is the weird part. It also weirdly works when I remove some characters from the setup. Thanks for trying to help me with this, and I like your videos too.
I actually discovered that using Fetters and trying to use a skill to make the unit do nothing while allowing your deathblower to attack is unnecessary (though you should still use Fetters for the 100% stat boost). Any "Do What?" D.I. node, even if it has an output, can function as an end for a train of thought. So the "Wait for other units to act" and "Use " nodes could be removed from the targets' D.I.s entirely, and it would work just as well.
Grinding in the demo I believe - saves carry over so max level could be hit during the demo and then ported over/ properly optimised with the game release
@@TenesAsylum oooo nice i didnt kno the game was coming out on june 30th so i preordered yesterday on eb games site just gotta wait a little longer fpr it to arrive
Only 8 characters will be able to pack tightly enough around the enemies to fit within World's End's AoE. Also, you'll get the most bang for your buck if you reorganize your units in the extract farming group so the characters with the most movement are highest on the list. (Or was it the other way around? I don't remember.)
@primalliquid how long did it take for you to complete “ defeat 100k enemies?” Or do you have any level suggestions other than item world night? Everything that I have tried only yields about 5 mobs per fifteen seconds.... that’s gonna take over 80 hours.
stage 8-3 gives you 44 kills a run, if you REALLY want to grind the dmerit out instead of just letting it unlock on its own over time then use that stage
@@wolflesschild I doubt this would work with the 100 Prinnies method, since Recycle Spirit only takes effect if the character dies by explosion. World's End would not regenerate the dispatch limit.
Maybe if the prinnies have infernal corrosion they could earn stats for blowing themselves up? I’d check to see if it works but I’m not quite there yet, still getting my last d-merit
I believe it's from claiming 100% D-Merits on any character. At which point you can then make scrolls of it to pass onto other characters. I could be wrong though, I'm not anywhere near that point myself yet, closest I'm at is 60% or so last I checked.
@@theMikeKop Thank you. I understood it was from 100% D-merits but I did not understand if it was a evility given THEN as a reward or if you needed to get a specific class as well. So therefore I asked.
The world is from melodia unlocked through story progress and SR volunteer is from the dlc character asagi both evilitys can be made in to scrolls and spread to other units
@@Primalliquid92 Could of sworn there was a cap for growth in D5. Or maybe my testing was somehow flawed? But I tried the elite 4 with and with out evilities and saw not advantage to the evilities while in the elite 4.
@@Primalliquid92 be side your attempt to be sarcastic about it 🙄 yes it is still a spoiler even for the people who did pay attention to every single character on those particular ones you described. Other gamer TH-camrs give a small spoiler warning all the time, no be deal. Just a bit of constructivist criticism
the topic is how to stat max your characters, a very late game concept/mechanic in most games. its assumed the viewer knows the main game story or doesnt care
@@Primalliquid92i wasnt close to late game back then and some stuff doesnt require to be super far in the game . You don't even give info how to get stuff and leave ppl in the dark completely.. whatever, you never changed i see.
Maybe you can look at the other videos he’s made. Look at the date of the videos and follow. The guy prolly has 700+ hours played with some afk or not. But for someone that went through and did the work for everyone else there and made some great guides and how to’s, maybe you might be patient. Each vid is pretty straight to the point and tells why the methods work. A lot of it gives you at the very least ideas on what to actually do or modify your self to make even better if you put the time in. I can tell you I cleared rhakhosa mode at 45 hours play time because of his guides. And at that time in one of his videos I think he mentioned he was over 200 hours played. Your opinion is your own. I just think sound like an a hole who can’t even press a few buttons on you tube or actually watch them.
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For the recarnatjon should I just do it at level 2 for the demerits
@@BOOKET2007 If you're only going for the dmerit reward, you can do reincarnations at level 1. Just give your guy 100-200 mana from the juice bar to have the mana for reincarnation. If you have the mana/HL/juice bar XP to spare you could give the character some levels through the juice bar too to bank a little karma at the same time? Totally optional tho and can be expensive.
Why do you keep saying rakSaSHa? It is rakSHaSa...
do juice bar stats stay on your character after reincarnation?
If you guys have a low hit chance just use the evility hawk eye give 100 percent chance to hit when more then 3 panels away works with your units too
I know some people don't love the auto battle and auto renew options but I love it. Not paying in the hospital not actually having to go from shop to shop, it's great!
You pretty much have to have that feature. This version is far more grindy than anything before it.
You had the options for those in the past games.
...it has nothing to do with auto-battle...
Just a follow up to answer my own question.. If you try to use more extract than that required to boost a stat to max (500b boost max), it will only use the extract needed and there will be some left over in the juice bar.
Loving the guides on this game! Really helps the grind.
He is not helping us ...he is SCARING us lol
Important note: if HL gain from Damage Reward is turning out to be a bottleneck, do what you can to increase your target characters' HP, if you're deathblowing your allies. Since deathblows force you to do the target's max HP in damage-not a point more, nor less-you'll either want to increase their HP or, if you can do enough damage, remove Seal of Betrayal.
A fun thing I noticed that might make use of this ingenious method, is that I noticed that friendly kills also enhance the kill bonus in items. If you used the evility that let allies revive once per stage, and had them all congregate around an enemy every map and get deathblowed at max level you could theoretically gaurantee 9 max level character kills per map, even on a carnage or normal item. This could let you farm extracts, and kill bonus, while diving through an item world and grinding item points and innocents.
....And, killing your own units also can spawn chests @_@;
interesting.
*scribbling frantically in notebook* The good advice just keeps coming!
Wait, once per stage? Does that refresh between IW floors if you only kill your allies once on each floor?
“…. But… you can go even further!!”
yep
Ahh! You CAN make a character do nothing in D.I. by using "Wait until other units have acted". I noticed while looking at an enemy's D.I. that some of their trains of thought end with "Wait until other units have acted", and an empty slot next to it.
I decided to give it a try in my stat farm targets' D.I.s, and lo and behold, it works! No skill is needed, no need for defending, and Beiko will still attack!
Update: It seems ANY "Do What?" node, even if it has an output, can function as an ending action. The targets' D.I.s can even just consist of:
Enemy Forces -> Move toward target
Secret recon works great on the other nine if you don't care about gaining HP. It sets their HP to 1 making them guaranteed kills.
On the other hand, doing that reduces the amount of HL you get from Damage Reward.
Can you do a video on what to do as soon as you hit the post game? A lot of these OP guides are good but there is little to no information on how to even get to the point where you can do this type of content.
i have an early postgame video
@@Primalliquid92 Yep I have been following. Thanks!
Yeah I love the videos but I'm curious if you can make one like you did for the demo of how you get overpowered with the steps by steps. It'll be great if you can make a similar video but for the post story mode. Hahaha just slogging through to get up to just level 1 million XD
I'm just curious, new to your channel, but not new to the game. Has anyone ever mentioned that you pronounce "evility" wrong? I'm nor trying yo nitpick about accents, but the whole point of the word is to be a play on the words "evil" (since we play as demons) and "Ability". The emphasis should be on the second syllable instead of the first. Great video, and mean no negativity, it's just I love all the nuance of these games.
Is there a difference between "Increase stats by X%" and "Increase attacking stat by X%"?
You said (I think in this video, but I've been watching so many) that the max stat increase from exilities is 100%.
But Desco has an evility that says: You can't be dispatched if there's other ally units on the map, other ally units can't be dispatched if you're on the map. Increase stats by 100%, increase attacking stat by 100%, increase defending stat by 100%.
So I'm guessing there is a difference between "attacking stat" and just plain "stat" for stacking evilities?
Are you gonna do an another overpowered guide again if so it would be much appreciated
not any time soon im not, it took hundreds of hours for D5, this would be much much longer
@@Primalliquid92 Doesn’t need to be for Disgaea. Any of your over powered videos are nice. Even if you did a classic action RPG like KotOR or something.
For 100%-ing the d-merits, how would you approach the defeat x enemies? Full-striking some stages seems somewhat slow.
Full Strike on stage 6-3. 20 enemies at a time. Automate it just like in this guide.
I would do Item World and Use full strike, and let grind.
Full strike 8-3 (boxes and barrels count). Is 43 kills per run and takes 2 turns to clear
I get stuck every few IW levels with your DI setup. Enemies across gaps or behind fences. How do I fix that cause otherwise it’s pointless.
primal, how did you get that many gear at high level? was there a way to dupe on this game?
If the stat boost from the juice bar is 500B, has anyone tried using more extract? I am wondering if it wont actually let you use more extract than it would take to get the 500B boost OR if it lets you use it but just stops boosting. My hope is that it cuts you off from using more in any given stat. I really dont want to have to try to figure out where to stop dropping extracts into a specific stat on a specific character.
My stats are stuck at 999,999,999,999 and when I try to put them to 1 trillion at juice bar, it takes it back down to 999 Billion, how do I break the stat cap?
complete rakshasa 5 and then reincarnate and use karma to unlock the cap
@@Primalliquid92 how do you beat rakshasha 5?
Question on the mechanics of stats. If you get this rolling, is it an alternative to using reincarnation for stat growth for new characters?
no, you should focus on both
Do you even need to bother with reincarnations if you just use essence to max your stats?
where the hell do you get fetters? NOBODY ever says anything about it.
Fetters is an evility from a 4* Dragon monster class.
What are your favorite xp farm stages?
14-5
is it possible to get the absolute max stats with just the juice bar, or is there some kind of limit that the juice bar will go up to?
the juice bar stat cap at 500 000 000 000 except for hp and sp for each character
@@MagnaAdrias1 awesome, thank you
So other than the satisfaction of having fully maxed stats, is there a practical reason to do it? Like is Raksasha Baal really just that insane a super boss?
i still cant beat him
@@Primalliquid92 have you tried making 100 characters with the recycle spirit to just lift up baal while the rest of your party members attack him every round?
@@metalsteel5631 Recycle spirit only works if the unit exploded iirc
Hi there,
I was using the method you use here and started maxing a character but, for some reason, I can't use any more juice on her intelligence (she's currently at 6.000.000.0000.000 (and that's using fetters) does anybody know why is this happening? how can I fix it?
I believe there's a cap on the stats you can obtain through the juice bar. I've heard somewhere it's 500 B.
Hey man I don't know if you know already but the season pass is out for the game right now not too important considering that the only dlc characters out right now which are Mao and Raspberyl (which you can buy individually). But if I'm right you said in a previous Disgaea 6 video you said he has an evility that helps with exp gain. On a side note though I've watched all you're Disgaea and Final Fantasy videos and I think they're great. I really like watching how you break these games and then how you teach us in a very comprehensive way on how you did it, keep up the good work man!
yea Mao is the best character for exp leveling because he has an innate exp boost evility
How much mov do you need to make them gather into AOE range? Everyone in my group has like no less than 8mov and it's the ones with the highest movement that stand outside the range
its because your 8mv characters are taking the closest spots so your higher move characters are struggling to get to the back, i found about 15mv on everybody left me with no issues
@@Primalliquid92 thanks!
silly question but how do you get fetters? just got to act 2 of the story
it's an evility that the dragon gets
Games not out till next month (in a week) ima losing me plot, feel like a kid waiting "I wanna" "i wanna i wanna i wanna"
Great job 2 respect on the grind
huh what? the game released everywhere yesterday
@@Primalliquid92 EB ballarat AUS I pre ordered a physical copy, an here it's not releasing until the 6th (and got pushed back a day so the 7th now) ima gonna go in check it out tomorrowz.
Just looked at wiki AU flipping 9th now
Once I reach the point where I can start doing this, I would want to at least try fully maxing out a single character. Any reason to try maxing any out other than to see how powerful you can make them at that point?
Making Baal look easy? 20 star Raksha Baal is a thing again XD
20star? dude even 0 star rakshasa baal is a monster. 20star pretty much demands a perfect valvatorez
@@Primalliquid92 Well... I saw Zed, Misedor, Majolene and Prism ranger story character which I can´t for the live of me remember the name for pretty easily murder Baal thanks to attack range and support attacks. They got like 5 attacks in a row. So even Baal could not really do anything but just take the damage.
Most of them were max stats for that.
But otherwise yes. Baal is a true demon and is just getting harder and harder for each game.
When I try this, Bieko keeps going to the side and doesn't hit everyone. What's causing this?
her position in the party list, move her so shes the 6th person in the field order or increase everybodys movement alot more
I still can't seem to get it to work. Everyone has more than enough movement to get to the right spot, but she just won't go to the right spot and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. It was working before I did... something, which is the weird part. It also weirdly works when I remove some characters from the setup. Thanks for trying to help me with this, and I like your videos too.
is there anothers way to get extract stat without the d-merit and the evilities ?
Sadly, no. I recommend a mecha girl farming 8-3 with full burst for the kills requirement (which still takes overnight)
Oh my ! This combo of DI and Fetters is so convoluted that you really must be some sort of optimization genius to even have thought about it.
I actually discovered that using Fetters and trying to use a skill to make the unit do nothing while allowing your deathblower to attack is unnecessary (though you should still use Fetters for the 100% stat boost). Any "Do What?" D.I. node, even if it has an output, can function as an end for a train of thought. So the "Wait for other units to act" and "Use " nodes could be removed from the targets' D.I.s entirely, and it would work just as well.
Question how do you have max level characters at 99 999 999?
Grinding in the demo I believe - saves carry over so max level could be hit during the demo and then ported over/ properly optimised with the game release
@@TenesAsylum oooo nice i didnt kno the game was coming out on june 30th so i preordered yesterday on eb games site just gotta wait a little longer fpr it to arrive
you couldnt hit max level in the demo, the demo cap was 9999, full game is 99 MILLION
@@Primalliquid92 i wonder why NIS raised the max level
This game is as ridiculous as ever I see
My characters aren't crowding in close enough to all get blasted. I switched to Full Blast to get around this. Anybody have any other thoughts?
you need more movement on your characters then
@@Primalliquid92 Thanks!
Only 8 characters will be able to pack tightly enough around the enemies to fit within World's End's AoE.
Also, you'll get the most bang for your buck if you reorganize your units in the extract farming group so the characters with the most movement are highest on the list. (Or was it the other way around? I don't remember.)
@primalliquid how long did it take for you to complete “ defeat 100k enemies?” Or do you have any level suggestions other than item world night? Everything that I have tried only yields about 5 mobs per fifteen seconds.... that’s gonna take over 80 hours.
stage 8-3 gives you 44 kills a run, if you REALLY want to grind the dmerit out instead of just letting it unlock on its own over time then use that stage
@@Primalliquid92 thank youuuuuu!
o wow that is crazy, but u sir are a super genius, putting batman to shame (sorry for upsetting those who love batman) :)
nah dw, batman has nothing on me let the haters hate lol
have you tred to do this with 100 prinies?
what do you mean?
@@Primalliquid92 you have a video with the 100 suicide squad. lol thanjs
@@wolflesschild I doubt this would work with the 100 Prinnies method, since Recycle Spirit only takes effect if the character dies by explosion. World's End would not regenerate the dispatch limit.
Maybe if the prinnies have infernal corrosion they could earn stats for blowing themselves up? I’d check to see if it works but I’m not quite there yet, still getting my last d-merit
Infernal corrosion is aquired from what class? Or is it just a evility you can aquire when you reach 100% clear on the D-merits?
I believe it's from claiming 100% D-Merits on any character. At which point you can then make scrolls of it to pass onto other characters. I could be wrong though, I'm not anywhere near that point myself yet, closest I'm at is 60% or so last I checked.
@@theMikeKop Thank you. I understood it was from 100% D-merits but I did not understand if it was a evility given THEN as a reward or if you needed to get a specific class as well. So therefore I asked.
You automatically receive it on the character that completes 100% D-merits as soon as you claim the last D-merit reward.
How do you get the world evility and the SR volunteer one? Thanks!
The world is from melodia unlocked through story progress and SR volunteer is from the dlc character asagi both evilitys can be made in to scrolls and spread to other units
Thank you very much
Does growth rate not cap at +100% in this one?
the only 100% cap is stat gain from evilities (same as past games) not growth which is uncapped
@@Primalliquid92 Could of sworn there was a cap for growth in D5. Or maybe my testing was somehow flawed? But I tried the elite 4 with and with out evilities and saw not advantage to the evilities while in the elite 4.
hi twitch chat
I know you said late game but you should definitely edit a SPOILER WARNING ⚠️ I stop the video at Biko which I didn't know we would be getting 😩
yea who would have figured we'd get a character from all the trailers, the box art or even the games website, shocking isnt it
@@Primalliquid92 be side your attempt to be sarcastic about it 🙄 yes it is still a spoiler even for the people who did pay attention to every single character on those particular ones you described. Other gamer TH-camrs give a small spoiler warning all the time, no be deal.
Just a bit of constructivist criticism
the topic is how to stat max your characters, a very late game concept/mechanic in most games. its assumed the viewer knows the main game story or doesnt care
very very late guide...
thanks and SKIP.
well gee who would have thought a guide about stat maxing would require somebody to be in the late game content, its shocking isnt it?
@@Primalliquid92i wasnt close to late game back then and some stuff doesnt require to be super far in the game . You don't even give info how to get stuff and leave ppl in the dark completely.. whatever, you never changed i see.
Maybe you can look at the other videos he’s made. Look at the date of the videos and follow. The guy prolly has 700+ hours played with some afk or not. But for someone that went through and did the work for everyone else there and made some great guides and how to’s, maybe you might be patient. Each vid is pretty straight to the point and tells why the methods work. A lot of it gives you at the very least ideas on what to actually do or modify your self to make even better if you put the time in. I can tell you I cleared rhakhosa mode at 45 hours play time because of his guides. And at that time in one of his videos I think he mentioned he was over 200 hours played. Your opinion is your own. I just think sound like an a hole who can’t even press a few buttons on you tube or actually watch them.