Who was Nathan Bedford Forrest? (Part 2)
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Who was Nathan Bedford Forrest? In this two-part story, we'll answer that question.
Thus far, we have offered anecdotal insight as to Bedford Forrest’s humble origins: his makeup and antebellum experiences. We’ve detailed his entrance into the great conflict and his meteoric rise to command - his fights at Fort Donelson, Shiloh, Fallen Timbers, and his dogged, relentless pursuit of Colonel Abel Streight’s Union command.
Now, we’ll delve into the remainder of his Civil War career as well as his post-war life. Both periods, perhaps unsurprisingly, are laced with controversy. And so, we pick up the fiery story that is Nathan Bedford Forrest, the Wizard of the Saddle.
#civilwar #civilwarhistory #nathanbedfordforrest
Narrated by Fred Kiger
Produced by Dan Irving
Published by Third Wheel Media
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Additional References In This Episode:
That Devil Forrest: Life of General Nathan Bedford Forrest - by John A. Wyeth - www.amazon.com/That-Devil-For...
Nathan Bedford Forrest: A Biography - by Jack Hurst - www.amazon.com/Nathan-Bedford...
The Confederacy's Greatest Calvaryman: Nathan Bedford Forrest - by Brian Steel Wills - www.amazon.com/Confederacys-G...
Some Characters Mentioned In This Episode:
Braxton Bragg
Joseph Wheeler
William Sooy Smith
Samuel D. Sturgis
Andrew Jackson Smith
James Harrison Wilson
Hat's off to One of the Greatest Calvary Leaders ever. Despite those that dislike General Forrest. All have to admire his spirit.
A supremely talented man in service to a horrible cause
@@totallynotalpharius2283 politics isn't that simple.
@@totallynotalpharius2283that man was fighting because it was time to fight, right are wrong, as a southern it's in your blood .
One cannot compare the actions of someone living in a different era to those of one living today. It's shortsighted and ignorant. @@totallynotalpharius2283
Will never understand how Bragg got a Fort named after him.
I guess for being such a famous North Carolinian army guy.
I agree! He’s undeserving.
He was one of the unions best generals that's how
He 2as a horrible Gen Bragg was a joke a bad one.
I knew a man who named his jackass after B.B. I ask him why he said because he's always running off and scared 🤣
They should put all these removed statues on battlefields.
Excellent idea. I find the desire and attempts to erase the influential men who forged this nation into what it has become both ignorant and dangerous. Yes, the Confederate generals and political leaders were on the wrong side of history, defending a lost cause from the moment their homes chose to secede. But without the Civil War, the US wouldn't have become the nation we are. We can show respect to those men, even if they were in the wrong. If people choose to remove the monuments honoring Confederate leaders from courthouse lawns, government buildings, public parks, etc, then those monuments should absolutely be moved to national battlefields. Put Bedford Forrest's monument at Chickamauga / Chattanooga, Shiloh or Fort Donelson National Battlefield.
You do know the removed statues are those of traitors to the United States? But I guess that's why you want them and also because they represent a time of slavery and your ok with that .
What a wonderful idea!!!
They would if they had any sense, but they want a repeat.
I’ve often thought this was the logical answer of what to do with to these Civil war statues.
“Courage cannot be counterfeited, It is one virtue that escapes hypocrisy”
Napoleon Bonaparte
Heaven forbid if we had generals such as Forest today instead of the milk toasts and pronoun correct wimps we have today.
Nathan Bedford Forrest was one of a kind, a true Southern hero, military genius, and genuine bad ass.
Thank you for your two videos about him. They were both well done. I do wish however you would have mentioned the number of black men that served in his command. It's my understanding that although most worked in support roles, many were combatants who fought alongside their fellow Confederate cavalrymen.
Yeah, that’s patently false buddy… none actually fought alongside their southern “brethren”.
Provide some legitimate sources and maybe I’ll be inclined to review them for authenticity.
I can guarantee you’ll be hard pressed. 🤣😂
@@BeefCake1012sissy
Damn right
Ft. Pillow? Tough shit! They should have known better😡 They refused to surrender? Then that's what should've occurred!
Nathan Bedford Forrest was a beast and a legend with warfare.
Thank you for another outstanding episode!
I served for 30 years and have studied the Civil War extensively for a good 20 years. I absolutely believe Forrest was the best soldier created by the war.
Yes; he owned and traded slaves which was a horrendous practice but he also did a lot of good for the black community after the war. Without a doubt, he was a pragmatist.
Let’s keep in mind that many Union Soldiers were extremely racist. The fact is, the war was waged to maintain the Union and freeing the slaves (only in Confederate held states) was a political move. Look at the New York riots, comments made by Sherman and Grants General Order No. 11. Even Lincoln made it known that he thought the white race was superior to the black race.
My feeling is that the monuments and graves should be left alone.
Those who wanted his statue removed are not fit to wipe the generals boots. They are just angry people; angry at their own shortcomings and failures.
Well said brother! He was a great warrior and a good southern man that most would do good to be half of what he was! I have 120 acres in Chattanooga TN and would love to have all these monuments and statues placed on my property, because the battle of Chattanooga partially happened on a small corner of my property. Hell, I've been metal detecting and found bayonets and musket balls there!
@@govolsfightvolsfight2908 That is awesome! I am jealous lol.
Unfortunately in Wisconsin where I am from there is not much chance of finding cool stuff like that.
I’ve been a civil war enthusiast since I was a 8 years old and Forrest was always my favorite Confederate general.
People do not know shit about history. If Forrest was such a monster would have William Tecumseh Sherman have said he would gladly accept Forrest’s services in the event of war with Spain? We almost had the Spanish American war in the 1870’s and the General offered his services to fight under the Stars and Stripes.
@@pigmanobvious you are correct, and for the life in me, I've never understood why people don't like monuments or statutes! Most the stupid shits bitching about them wouldn't know who was on what side unless some liberal twat told them to think that way! It's truly a tragedy what's happening to our history and I'd fight if needed and came to it for that very reason!
@@govolsfightvolsfight2908I’m a Kentucky metal detector and a Southern history enthusiast, I would love to hunt with you if you’re interested in making a friend and hunting your area
Damn , you lucky dog !
Great show for a Southern hero!
I live just outside Columbia TN. Until I moved here 4 years ago, I had no idea how much of the Civil War happened in Tennessee. We're just not taught about it up North. And Forrest? We're taught he was a terrorist and founding member of the KKK. Thank you so much for these videos! They really do a lot to both educate and lend perspective.
Don't cha despise a damn lair?
The truth is a relief in this case.
there are two histories in regards to the Civil War. Most if not all of Forrest's newspaper accounts were uncorroborated and it's context was purely political. As time passed corroborations to the same was spotty and additive. The result is myth to an ideology. Most of the northern account came from eyewitnesses. Nothing additive.
Another great video! I've always been impressed by NBF. Growing up near Corinth, I've been to several battlefields where NBF served.
I find these narrations of yours most enlivening of what many consider dry material. You give it a "living presence" to the events that many others often lack. These were and are, living people and dead people, whose lives shaped the destiny of the nation under the most dire and harshest of circumstances. Bad food, bad smells, terrible hygiene, little to no means of succor or support of the men in the field, and add on top of that, the most terrible type of warfare fought face to face, for what seemed like, endless years, going from one hot, dusty, or cold and freezing place to another.
I thank you sir and your fellows, in this effort.
Don
I enjoy and appreciate all the hard work y’all put in to present such vivid history that I just joined your channel. Thank you for your professionalism in the accurate retelling of the historical narratives as it does not go unnoticed.
IT'S CALLED HISTORY BECAUSE IT HAPPENED WE AND OR OTHERS JUST CANT CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE DISAGREE. 😊
I agree with the attorney. Don'tdisrespect the burial sites of someone you disagree with, most times those people, if we are wise, are our greatest teachers.
I lived in Memphis 91-97 and I been to the park where Forrest statue stand, but today if you go there you got a good chance of getting shot, rob, are beat up in that area. SAD !!!
True, the winners do, always write the history. And what they write, they teach the children.
My great great grandfather was a regimental commander under Forrest.
Second time through, rarely done on my part. Why do so many try to skew/embellish history when the basic documented facts are far better than retro type history? Very well done and sincere thanks.
You are awesome!!
I love the way your present hisSTORY! Like A Jackson and C Columbus we should continue to look at historical figures in the context of their times!
Always a pleasure to hear Dr Wills speak on Forrest. His retirement will be a huge hole for lovers of history.
Thank you so much for the time and effort you put into your work. You are second to none on this topic that i hold near and dear to my heart. My family fought in this conflict- 4th AL Cav-. Thank you for being honest and not sugar-coating and for being un-bias. I plan on becoming a loyalist very soon. Watching your videos is one of my highlights of my days off from work and i cant wait to be a loyalist and help you continue your passion. Sincerely Dylan Frederick.
DEO VINDICE
Once again, another great history lesson. Good work
I’ve been excited about this video for the past two weeks. Glad it’s here now.
The winners write the history
Yep, traitors zero The United States of America 1. Game over secret Trumpers.
Funny, because up to the last 50 years or so, the losers wrote their own version of history. It's called the Lost Cause, and we're well rid of it.
Who were the losers?
@@jamesscott6661 Those that thought they have the right to own people.
@@jackshaftoe1715The North also owned people, for they were the ship builders of the Colonies.
Read some history books, not crap off the internet. Local libraries have numerous books on the subject.
I am actually related to this man, my granfathers side of the family were formerly known as "The Bedfords" and it is still on his drivers license simply as a "B" however, somewhere along the line we changed our name to the "Chollars". We had a relative who was a Private in some army we went to see around 10 years ago, I was only 5 or so. His last name was Bedford and he was one of our confirmed relatives, Where was he from? Tennessee, who else was from there? General Bedford. He was the first ever Grand Wizard (which is actually extremely honorable as the KKK was formerly a lookout group who helped people before it turned for the worse) I don't know much more because I actually just learned this from my parents, however, it is extremely interesting to learn more about bedford and my family's history.
The reason that the head of the KKK is called the Grand Wizard is because of the Wizard of the Saddle being their first figurehead.
Thank you for sharing the thread of our national tapestry that NBF weaved into our shared history…
I'm both impressed and grateful for your excellent presentations.
This guy is full of 💩 what are you talking about ? He calls someone being the head of the clue clock's clan that murdered innocent people controversial 😂 Mate you gotta get your history in a better place and actually listen to an authority on the subject matter and not just some dope on TH-cam making money off your stupidity
Well done I appreciate your work
If General Forrest was in charge at Chattanooga, he would have defeated the Northern Army.
No, but we would have had a tougher time of the matter. With much greater cost in lives and materiel.
No, his tunnel vision on the battle before him (Chickamauga) did not allow for a larger command than what history itself produced.
Another tremendous documentary. Thanks.
The bust of Forrest has been moved to the Tennessee Sate Museum
Thank you! Keep it up!
Excellent presentation.
You are a dedicated professional.
Looking forward to many more.
Those were fascinating episodes. And John Brown next: excellent news!
I wish Gen. Forrest was in the N.N.V with Gen, R.Lee
Excellent as always. We need PGT Beauregard next!
Superb .... Interest, informative and somewhat disconcerting in many respects 😊
MTSU did not change the name of Forrest Hall again. The erasing of our history is appalling.
Damn what a great ending line. Excellent story. Came here bc all the controversy and wow was my mind changed. Controversial or not what an incredible story of an imperfect human pursuing what he deemed correct despite what others thought. Love or despise, an absolute pivotal figure in our nations history
Not a Bedford Forrest fan, but enjoyed this even-handed video.
I wish you would've been my History Teacher from Elementary School to Graduation!!!
Exceptional report as always
He should have been with Lee instead of Longstreet.
Nathan Bedford Forrest need not make excuses for the choices he made based on his frame of reference and the environment from whence he came. RIP General Forrest no greater a warrior has ever been birthed in
the Home Of The Brave.
Excuses were made for him in the years following his time. He conducted the matters at hand as he saw fit to the circumstances.
Bragg wasn't a good Field Marshall. He got his appointment because Jefferson Davis practiced protocol strenuously. Bragg being Senior General in the western theater after the death of General Beauregard at Shiloh was next in line even though he was mainly just a paper pusher. Tactics weren't a strong suit for Bragg. Something that would lead the south to defeat ultimately in the west. If anyone's to blame it's Jefferson Davis. It's surprising somewhat General Lee didn't tell Davis he wanted someone else to command the western theater. Perhaps even Nathan Bedford Forrest who Lee recognized as a brilliant strategist and tactician. It's understandable Forrest disliked Bragg. The two men were polar opposites of one another in just about every way that there is to be.
Every body hates Bragg .
Vae victis
2:20 The reason none of Braxton Bragg's men were in the area was because Forrest was the advanced screening force. Bragg's men were marching not riding. Only forced marches could close the gap and the Army of Rosecrans would simply do the same with a forced march. It was Polk (friend of Jefferson Davis that refused to strike camp and pursue at Bragg's orders. Polk quote to Bragg: "Do tell General Bragg that my heart is overflowing with anxiety for the attack--- overflowing with anxiety sir") Longstreet was nowhere near the area as his Corps was a day plus away. Again Forrest's commentary is just a viewpoint from his perspective, he did not possess the overall picture of the battle.
Excellent!!
Proud to have 2 portraits of NBF in my home.
Now, about Fort Pillow, if the truth was known, which was known by several high ranking Northern Generals, there would be far less controversy. The price of cotton explains Fort Pillow. The question is, how many were benefiting from the $1.89 per pound. That is $47 per pound today.
Bad form to expel Forrest's tomb. How was that a unifying effort? It is easy to kick a dead lion.
Alumni N.B. Forrest H.S. 1968, Jacksonville, Fla.
Thank youz , all Although I cannot contribute, I remain dedicatted l
4:49 The Cowen account was disproven as pure myth. Cowen (a cousin) made up this story after Forrest, had passed away. Cowen himself was the only eyewitness to the event, saying only Jefferson Davis, Bragg, Forrest, and himself were present at Forrest's insubordinate display. The truth is Davis was confirmed to be somewhere else hundreds and if not a thousand miles away. This event first appeared in Wyeth's first edition of his book on Forrest as Cowen provided it to him. But after some investigation Wyeth found it to be a falsehood and removed this account from the second edition of his book.
3:30 Bragg was informed that Forrest had left on a foray north, not by Forrest himself. Communication was always a major failure of Forrest's. Bragg was not wrong in his statement, Forrest and Wheeler proved unsupportive of the main Army in that being the eyes and ears they provided nothing of the sort for the campaign. Yet both men remained on good terms with one another. When Forrest asked for specific units in an independent command Bragg gave it to him along with a promotion befitting the area of control of his new command.
Fort Pillow got what it asked for.
I have been there.
So was Washington, Jefferson, etc. Never lest We forget Ufl ever
Old Bridge Burner eh?
A Canadian, , yet I agree.. War is Hell. .If we did not Love it so much we must abhor ut .
You should have consulted scholars from Abbeville Institute.
One badass patriot.
I'm thinking you never learned to read. The word you are looking for there is TRAITOR ! Oh and if you dont like it go back to Scotland or was it Ireland ?
Yes he was! Should have been in command of all calvary forces in the west.
@@ericcrawford3453 As per usual, it would have made no difference. Just woulda took longer.
A traitor to the United states and founder of the Klan, yep a true patriot to slave holders, guess we know who you voted for and party you follow.
@@jackshaftoe1715 true
Why didnt you report his religious conversation. Accepted christ as his saviour.
I enjoyed this, but must take issue with your characterization of Forrest as "a traitor." I don't think that's fair. The Confederacy was as open and honest an attempt to create a new nation as The American Revolution had been, the difference being that The American Revolution succeeded while The War of Southern Rebellion failed. Do you have any doubt that if The American Revolution had failed, its leaders would have been labeled, however unjustly, traitors by the British?
And in neither case is it a just assessment. A traitor, the classic example being Kim Philby, works from within, stealthily, to undermine the government of his nation.
There is a huge moral difference between an honest rebel and a traitor.
I believe you're referring to a section where he was described as a slave owner and TRADER. He was in fact a slave trader before the war. It did sound like traitor and it took me a moment to realize what he really meant. Because of the similarity of the words he should have said it as "slave owner and slave trader" not just trader.
@@horton12545 I don't think so. I like the fellow. I enjoy listening to him. But I'd bet my life he said, and meant, "traitor."
Please read “The South was Right”, it was called The 2nd American Revolution. Now I fear we’re heading for the 3rd American Revolution. We sure need the Spirit of General Nathan Bedford Forest
You are right! The South was right in 1861 because their grandfathers were right in 1776. Secession was more legitimate in 1861 because they were sovereign States and not subjects as they were in 1776.
@@brycewade8791 No, secession is not mentioned in the constitution. But unilateral secession is not possible. In this country for any measure to pass it must undergo approval of the legislature. That is a bill would be put before Congress then voted upon for that secession be adopted to an Amendment.
Joining the Union wasn’t meant to be jumping over the broom your in, jumping over the broom your out. There was real concern if the situation got tough States would leave in fear, leaving the remaining States to hang.
The question of secession was not a new one. The sovereignty of states, and their permanence in the Union, was a constant question. Al Mackey lists out several Supreme Court cases that used the intent for a perpetual Union in their decisions:
Madison, the chief author of the Constitution, certainly understood what he was creating. Madison repeatedly explained unilateral secession wasn't possible. When trying to get the states to ratify the Constitution, New York asked for a secession clause after a number of years. Hamilton wrote to Madison about it. This was Madison's response:
"Yours of yesterday is this instant come to hand & I have but a few minutes to answer it. I am sorry that your situation obliges you to listen to propositions of the nature you describe. My opinion is that a reservation of a right to withdraw if amendments be not decided on under the form of the Constitution within a certain time, is a conditional ratification, that it does not make New York a member of the New Union, and consequently that she could not be received on that plan. Compacts must be reciprocal, this principle would not in such a case be preserved. The Constitution requires an adoption in toto, and forever. It has been so adopted by the other States. An adoption for a limited time would be as defective as an adoption of some of the articles only. In short any condition whatever must viciate the ratification. What the New Congress by virtue of the power to admit new States, may be able & disposed to do in such case, I do not enquire as I suppose that is not the material point at present. I have not a moment to add more than my fervent wishes for your success & happiness.
"This idea of reserving right to withdraw was started at Richmond & considered as a conditional ratification which was itself considered as worse than a rejection." -James Madison to Hamilton, July 20, 1788
Whupped by Milroy.
I admire fine generals on both sides. I do not agree with the removal of honored statues, on both sides. I am glad we had slavery ended, but when we unite we are twice as bad ass. Glory to the USA troops no matter their color,or creed. Glad to be American!
Forrest was a singular entity in the Civil War. Smart people from all walks of military life, read about him, his tactics, and most importantly his combining of those elements with his fevered aggression. Numbers did not really matter to him. He was able to apply aggression and adjustments to tactics to compensate for facing superior numbers. The rewriting of history by those that are ignorant of it is a sad fact of this country at this point. Forrest was someone to respect in terms of military genius, as well as someone to regard with an equal amount of contempt for many of his actions with regard to his treatment of those from different racial groups.
Numbers did matter to him. He avoided fights without advantage of numbers or equalizing terrain. "Fustest with the mostest." The revisionism of Civil War events started in 1866 and continues today in the Lost Cause Ideology. His military genius is simply basic in nature but multiplied the perfect conditions of the area of the command.
Forrest had all the advantages and no of the disadvantages of a typical command. You could take any Tom Dick or Harry that was a rich braggart and put him in the same scenario and succeed. 1) Operate in a vast friendly area that readily provided supplies, intelligence reports, and recruits. 2) Attack small groups to gain military supplies. 3) Ignore orders from superiors, refuse to communicate with peers or other commands nearby. Take soldiers from other commands as your own.
@scottgoens7575 I will concede certain elements, but I will respectfully disagree on others. Forrest fought against superior numbers many times, with great success. He may have been a braggart, but his success not only in winning battles, but in the mental battle can not be understated. Just because someone is a braggart, does not mean they are incapable. Forrest lived rent free in many military leaders, on both sides, causing those leaders to second guess, rush, and in some cases make poor tactical decisions, allowing emotions to get the better of them.
@@amandragoran anytime Forrest fought superior numbers he had logistical advantage. This is directly related to the vastness of the friendly territory and intelligence he gained from its citizens.
For example, the battle of Brice's Crossroads. Sturgis set out under supplied and on half rations for his men. The roads to Tupelo were wet and sloppy due to six sequential days of rain, which slowed the advance of the supply wagons and ammunition train. Several companies of men were detailed to try to make the roads passable. Additionally, the horses pulling the trains were poorly fed because there had been little in the way of forage for them to eat along the way. Many of them were shot as the arduous axle deep mud was too much for them.
Secondly, both Grant and Sherman knew if Forrest was given a choice he would always go after the weakest raiding force leaving him occupied away from federal operations. The success of major Federal operations was to keep the garrisons of the supply line free of Forrest.
As for Forrest's character it cannot be denied he was a braggart, bully, and a quick fused individual who found fault in everyone but himself. That is well documented.
His leadership faults are also well documented. 1)His own brutality to his own men. 2) His acerbic relationship with his peers in command. 3) He was promoted beyond his capabilities.
The above reasons are exactly why he was given independent command.
Mosby lived rent free as well. Moseby did more with less in a small area with actual leaderships skills. The Myth of Forrest makes him, " ten foot tall and shooting lightning bolts out of his ass" in today's historiography. He has certainly has been over exaggerated in all aspects of his military endeavors. How was that possible? Forrest was allowed to write without corroboration a flattering portrayal of himself in which others gladly climbed aboard that adulation train as time passed.
@scottgoens7575 One might acrually look at what you are saying through a different lens. He tooktaegets many times, that guaranteed a victory, or at rhw least, enough bloodshed to the enemy to make it worth the losses that may have been suffered. Many leaders, frear and not so great exhibit their flaws openly. Forrest was abusive as a leader - well documented. Forrest was a bragbox that thought he walked on water - again, well documented. The other side was the victories kept coming in spite of his flaws. Choosing to take smaller dorces that assured the win is intelligent, it shows different ways of thinking. Not every tactical wunderkind was a wunderkind because they fought impossible odds and won. Somebare just smart enough to keep winning by choosing the right battles and tactics and locations. There are several other leaders from the Civil War that won the mental battles that go on behind the lines, resulting in those mental victories translating to overall victories on the field. Forrest was just a character, and for the South, he was someone that "stuck it to the yankees" enough to gain notoriety on both sides of the line. We will likely disagree on many things in life, this is one of them. Based upon my upbringing, reading as much as I have and listening to historical pieces from folks like Colin, Forrest was a hard man, and a caricature that was made larger than life because of his military exploits. He was viewed much the same way that favorite generals were in WWII, or any other wars this country fought in. In the South, he was revered for the most part, and viewed in many cases with awe tinged with humor. In the North, he was viewed as an egotistical, evil, opportunist that was quite lucky. Personally, I think he was a blueprint for success in many ways, as well as a blueprint for self destruction. He could have done much more, but several others did much less.
Nice discussion BTW, most people degenerate into insults after one post, I appreciate literate, differing points of view!
@@amandragoran The bottom line is that Forrest in all aspects has been exaggerated by historiography beyond his actual impact.
Those that worship the Forrest idol refuse to see is that it was Wheeler that was referred to more often or first when it came to raiders. Specific reference to specific commanders concerning raiders wasn't focused just on Forrest. Forrest had a big hand at tooting his own exploits, with exaggerations...
People say NBF was a war criminal for the Fort Pillow incident... yet... consider Sherman's Georgia Howl not a big deal.
Sherman was a fire bug & is probably barking in hell!!!
Great general should not be removed. General Sherman had more atrocities in South Carolina where they surrendered.
True
I absolutely loved this story. Thanks from New Zealand. We all need to stop judging yesterday's men by today's laws. Example. Was Jesus a racist for telling the good Samaritan story. Definitely.
Criminal
You stated that Fort Pillow was "a slaughter". Undoubtedly, it was, but every battle in every war could be called the same thing. Further, your comment about how this wasn't "humane warfare" makes it clear that you are ignorant about the nature of war. There is no such thing as humane warfare.
Nathan Bedford Forrest was a brilliant tactician, and no one can take that from him.
Erwin Rommel came to the US to study the battle of Tishomingo Creek. You may dismiss him because he was a Nazi, but that doesn't detract from his skills as a soldier and a leader.
I subscribed to this channel as a student of history, but I will unsubscribe if the othet videos are attempts at political correctness at the cost of truth.
You barely mentioned his efforts to encourage Memphis leaders to train Black men to become lawyers, doctors, etc., and his belief that they were just as capable of Whites for those jobs. You also omitted the fact that he left the KKK after about 2 years because he believed it had become racist. He was interested in ridding the South of carpet baggers, and it's a shame he failed in that endeavor.
You shpuld get your facts straight before you spread the same old falsehoods about the Civil War.
A traitor like Trump, except he wasn't a coward, and understood tactics.
How is Donald Trump a traitor? Is this the new “Trump’s a racist” or “Trump is a fascist” line Democrats are using for the 2024 election cycle? I bet Biden’s friend Cornpop wouldn’t think Trump is a racist and Cornpop was a bad dude as you well know.
Do you remember in 2016 when everyone on the left was screaming about how Trump wasn’t mentally or cognitively fit to be president? Why aren’t they shouting the same thing now since Biden’s cognitive ability is clearly deteriorating?
Bloated, boastful, and silly, tRump's presence alone would've caused Forrest to have backhanded him on sight.
@cfcinilope there has been enough passage of time
Forrest would have love Trump 😁🔥
@@timskelton4958 Mr.Forrest was a no nonsense military man, who wouldn't have put up with a halfwit like Trump for more then a second.
Make sure you mention how he murdered unarmed African American soldiers just because they were black. I wanna hear how you romanticize that part. It was because he loved his state so much right 😂
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assuming you're referring to Fort Pillow; while killing of surrendering, surrendered, or fleeing colored troops certainly occurred, this was not due to orders from the general, and a stop was put to the bloodshed when he arrived on scene. i'm sure it makes things easier to digest or be mad about to imagine the gentleman as pure ignorant sadistic savage with blood dripping from his teeth- that he was filled with some amorphous evil hatred of all members of another race and this was his motivation and raison d'etre for all he did. only slightly more stupid than those on "my side" having a seething hatred of Sherman.
Aawwe, are your little sensitive feelings hurt?🤣
@@stevehudson7429Why do people like you respond with something like “did I hurt your feelings” when someone responds to your comment with factual information? Seems to be a common tactic of the super liberal types of today. It’s either something like what you said or y’all just go for the “you’re a Nazi” or “you’re a racist and fascist” or some other ridiculous comeback when you’re not intelligent enough to have a civilized discussion like most well adjusted adults.
@@sanderssonjankins6251guess you forgot it was Forrest who founded the Klan.
And when he says it's a story he simply says that because he knows his videos are predicated on lies and mis truths. He gives you a little bit of fact and then he throws in his own opinion on it. That's not a historian. A historian doesn't give his own opinion about history, he just tells you about history. And no responsible history would call Nathan Bedford forest being the head of the clan simply controversial 😂 No true historian or Authority on the subject matter would do that
Please let me know what to read to learn the imormation that backs your opinion. Thanks.
*"And when he says it's a story he simply says that because he knows his videos are predicated on lies and mis truths."*
Then you should have no trouble identifying the specific lies told in this video. Go on. We'll wait.
*"He gives you a little bit of fact and then he throws in his own opinion on it."*
Meanwhile, you sh!t your opinion all over the comments, here, and don't bother with any fact. Congratulations; you're both ignorant AND a hypocrite.
*"That's not a historian. A historian doesn't give his own opinion about history, he just tells you about history."*
Based on your comments, you aren't qualified to even identify history, let alone provide insight into how history should be related. I guess that's what happens when someone who dropped out of elementary school tries to comment on adult topics.
*"And no responsible history would call Nathan Bedford forest being the head of the clan simply controversial "*
So, it wasn't controversial? FFS...if you can't even spell 'Klan' properly, why should anyone listen to your ignorant BS at all?
*"No true historian or Authority on the subject matter would do that"*
Awe...isn't that cute. You've rolled two logical fallacies into one: No True Scotsman, and Appeal to Authority. So, in addition to being completely ignorant of history, you're also incapable of presenting your arguments without resorting to pathetic fallacy. You are truly a pinnacle of intellectual integrity.
@mathew-jy5jp I suggest you read Nathan Bedford Forrest and the Ku Klux Klan by Lochlainn Seabrook. Then you will learn that thousands of southern blacks were involved in the Reconstruction act as members of the KKK even had their own den that operated in the Nashville area in order to Combate Scallywags and Carpetbaggers. Keep searching for the truth.
@@janericolmstead3679just Google who founded the Klu Klutz Klan and your question will be answered .
Like who, Gallagher or Ken Burns?
And when this Person does videos showing his face, his facial expressions show how disingenuous he is.
How can you back up that statement?
@@janericolmstead3679
*"How can you back up that statement?"*
They can't...they're just want to spew their stup1dity in these comments. Probably because their mom told them they'll need to move out of the basement soon.
@@janericolmstead3679 Look up micro expressions "Oh unschooled one" ! Barely graduated high school eh ?
are you wearing your mom's dress again 🤣
@@janericolmstead3679 Look up "Micro expressions". Pretty simple to read em.
I've heard your videos before and I don't like how you twist our history around
May we agree that neither you nor I were there?
How would you untwist it?
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I have read your posts and you seam to interject your opinion with absolutely nothing to back what you say! I suggest that you stop watching.
*"I've heard your videos before and I don't like how you twist our history around"*
I've read your comments, and I don't like how you're an id10t who doesn't actually know anything about history in general, and the Civil War, specifically.
Why are you watching then? If you are such a “historian” yourself, start your own channel