If a 22 year old rookie Caitlin Clark was already able to be a Top 5 player in the WNBA, imagine the damage she could be doing by Age 25 (provided that she continues to be blessed by staying healthy even in the face of cheap shots & she’s blessed with a competent organization)
@@dewuster8885you mean race? And also the main issue that fans/players have would most likely not exist because if Caitlin was black… that’s kinda the whole point
So in other words if you give her everything and nothing goes wrong for her she will be the best?? 🤔 got it 👌🏾 😂😂😂 btw I love CC but Jeesh lol sound like a LeBron give them everything
The Reese disrespect is insane. I'm starting to believe that the media and content creators downplay her skills to boost their algorithm. Controversy sells.
100% agree with Brink at #2. Eye test - she's an absolute monster. Insane defensively, massive offensive upside. She might be a generational talent just like Caitlin.
Man Hunter... the Reese disrespect is becoming almost so bad im starting to question your credibility. She was a rookie all star, and got player of the week (among ALL w players) Even if her shooting never comes around (which it will with a better team and coach around her) if we assume she becomes a better defender, she should realistically only be behind CC.
He specified that the list isn't about current production, but potential. You're just coping. Reese doesn't have any great potential. She is what she is. Incredible rebounder, poor defender and offensive player. There's only so much value there.
@@ryanb2607 Reese can be the player of her generation even if it is unlikely... Her ceilling is 24/25pts and I4/I5 rbs if she do that she will be alone in the world. She can win 3 wnba championship and be known as the most dominant player ever. But Caitlin, aja, phee, Stewie are more skilled and versatile ; out of reach for Reese. But her motor is generational and sky is the limit
Caitlyn is the better player, way better, way more complete and Brink is taller more skilled too than Reese. But Reese will dominates Brink harshly today and probably most times in their careers and Reese career can match CC career. CC can be MVP by herself true but with the right team Reese can be MVP too one day... This is the true potential of Reese
@@BaudreyFKy This sounds like pipe dreams. 15-16ppg is Reese ceiling, she's already there - she was given way too many offensive opportunities as a rookie, which is why she had the poorest mark inside of 3 feet in WNBA history for a big. She's not even a third option - it's much more likely she averages between 11-14ppg for most of her career with a new coach now that won't misuse her as an offensive focus. Her defense is the real problem going forward - if she can turn into a solid defender, and maintain the elite defensive rebounding and offensive rebounding at the same time, she'll be one of the most valuable players in the league her entire career. Averaging 14 pts, 14 rbds and playing great defense would make her a one of one. But the stuff about 25ppg and being an offensive threat - that's not reality, lol. It would take a miracle for her to be an efficient scorer, ever, in her career.
@@ryanb2607 She can't be an efficient scorer, regarding shooting yes. But she can probably make all the layup she misses and her number will be around 20 already. If at some point she had a point guard at Ionescu, CC, paige or Olivia Miles level. She realisticly can closing to 25 at her peak. She could be a volume scorer (meaning inefficient but volumic)with high usage rate...
Enjoyed the video, Hunter. Good arguments for each player. One player I think will become an elite or near elite scorer is Maddy Seigrist. She made great strides in year 2 before breaking a finger. Also, if she has Paige as her point guard, that will make her an even more effective scorer. Not sure if you have done a comparison video of Clark vs. Paige, but that would be interesting. Thank you
Don't understand the backlash in the comments. Man said Reese had the potential to be one of the best players in basketball, you can't call him a hater lol
I don't understand why Boston is 3 when she's not projected to be a high level defensive center, nor does she stretch the floor from 3. Cardoso is also a great passer at her position and is showing midrange shooting ability. All while having major defensive impact. No way brink could show enough in only 15 games to be ranked number 2. Feels like you fall in love with your projections/analysis too much. I appreciate the effort but the logical inconsistencies across videos are hard to overlook.
I think that you put too much emphasis on looking good and not enough on effectiveness, which a lot of people do, especially among a certain player’s fan base which is my biggest issue. I also place a greater emphasis on defense and doing the little things to help your team win. I’ll reserve judgment on most of these players.
Cam is also coming off an injury so to have her at #2 when you admitted you will do the list next year is odd. Hopefully she will dominate with whoever they draft at 2.
I think guard play will help, but not be the see ole factor. Didn't Aliyah Boston shine before she played with Clark, as she was rookie of the year? Wasn't she already an all-star?
Boston really didn't change much from her rookie season to last season. She got easier shots, but she didn't take or make more. And her deense is stillpretty much the same. All star selection both seasons.
Brink can win DPOY next season while also avg 3 ast , coz she is willing passer, improve 3point to avg about 35%... its insane upside. Generational big for sure.
He's going for perceived upside with these picks so I get it. I'll need to see her for a full season next year though to before I think that rating is justifiable.
She absolutely needs to adapt to WNBA physicality & she must understand she cannot block every shot, but the potential is off the charts. The best shot blocker in the sport, a willing passer and a workable 3 point shot & handle. Based on ceiling alone she could become a total player. Let's just see if it pans out.
Good video. I don’t know if ppl in the comments don’t watch brink but she is literally a unicorn. Might take a step back due to the acl next year but will be a1 in ‘26. also yes on caitlin. She has even more room to develop offensively. In her junior year, she used to score in variety-midrange, top of key, fadeaway. That went away in her senior year because of the way the Iowa roster was constructed.(Mainly 3s and layups). Hope she uses the off season to get back to that. Otoh, the off ball defense is genuinely going to be hard. It took Steph until like 2018 to get better at that and Luka has been in the league for 6 years and he is still a zero there.
@@mauroradice7845 I meant for her to get back to herself. It takes like 9 months to heal. But most players don’t get back to themselves until the year after that
@@_M.... please watch the tape. She can defend almost all five positions and is very good at spreading the floor. Her touch around the rim plus process speed was getting better too
Great video ,thought maddy seigrist would be ranked higher ,averaging around 15 minutes in her career with the wings ,once she gets more minutes ,she would have a higher chance to shine .
Angel Reese is def number 1. Offense and defense. Had Angel had the “Team” around her she would have balled out. Let’s not forget she was number 1 rebounding beating Aja before she got hurt. Caitlin doesn’t know what defense is
Can any Angel Reese fans explain why they're upset with her ranked at #7? He said the video is about potential, not current production. She has no natural offensive game (it's the kind of awkward that doesn't get fixed), meaning little passing ability or vision (can't run the offense through her, either). And she was one of the worst defensive bigs last year. For her to continue to rebound at the rate she does, particularly on the offensive end, she'll continue to be a liability on defense as a trade-off. She's slow, so even if her rebounding goes down for better defense, she projects as average at best there. Where's the big upside? She's a great rebounder. Beyond great, even. And that seems to be it. #7 seems more than fair.
Your entire comment is as wrong as wrong can get. Angel is an excellent defender who had a case for 2nd Team All Defense. Angel is a really good for a player her size and sees the floor extremely well. AR averaged 14 ppg shooting 39% from the field if she gets her % up to 45 which is very doable she’s at 18-20ppg and 13rebs with excellent defense. I would call that upside but I know you don’t know ball.
@@jamesjr232009 Angel Reese is an elite defensive rebounder, which gives a lot of defensive value, of course - but she is a poor on-ball and help defender. Perhaps, you're out of your depth here - 39% from a PF who shoots almost exclusively lay-ins was actually the worst shooting performance inside of 5 feet by a qualifying player in WNBA history. Can you not comprehend the significance here? One person doesn't know ball that is commenting - and it's you, lmao. But thanks for the laughs.
@ You don’t know what you’re talking she is at her best on the ball you obviously have not watched her play because if you did you would know that. She had the best defensive rating on the team for a reason. Her weaknesses on D are rim protection (though she’s NOT a center) and transition D because she gets lazy at times. Where did I say she was good offensively dummy???? I said with a little improvement she can be great. Why do we assume every other rookie can improve their deficiencies but AR??? Can you not comprehend that????
Most of the time I think you are spot on with your predictions but I don't think this list will age very well. I think Angel will be the 2nd best player and Fiebich could be 3.
Cardoso over Reese is definitely…something. This seems to be a common take. I know Cardoso has a lot of potential that I’m excited to see her live up to, but I would like to see her actually outplay Reese in the now before we start putting her above Reese because so far that hasn’t been the case. Waiting to see what Reese does in future seasons before considering her ceiling to be higher seems inconsistent with putting Brink at a definitive #2 after playing less than half a season, but I digress.
I mean people that actually watched sky games u would see that when coach tspoon let Kamila play longer she would outplay reeese but most of the times when Kamila was getting hot coach would bench her that had us Kamilla fans kinda of mad and we like tspoon don’t get me wrong plus angel played longer than her but if u look overseas now look at how she’s bailing back to back to back 20+ point games this game today she went 11/11 100% from the field hopefully this new coach we have can use them both better
@@daivigomes2084 China isn't exactly a good indicator of what a player can do in the W with better defenders. Nalyssa Smith is putting up like 20+ points and 8+ rebounds. Cardoso would also sit primarily if she were in foul trouble. We saw Cardoso without Reese after she got injured and Cardoso's fg% actually dropped instead and she didn't shoot many more attempts. She needs to be confident in her footwork in order to create her own shot instead of passing out. I believe they can both work but you need Angel to work on her midrange and facilitating, you'll also need Cardoso to stay out of foul trouble and use her footwork and size to beat her defender in the post. They also need a proper PG and spacing provided by shooters to give Cardoso space to operate.
@@ricorogers9319 that was when she came back from injury she was playing shy but after the Olympic break she went off Reese starter good but what was her excuse after the break
Angel at 7 when she can get way better, is stupid take , offensively she will get better considering she 13.5 13.1 and her offence isn't there yet. You crazy.
Interesting rundown. You specifically mentioned that this video wouldn't just be based on how players did last season, but how you project them to do long-term, which I agree with. However, then in your video you had way too much focus on last season's numbers. That's all you showed, which is fine for people like Brink and Clark, who only have last season, but for players with multiple seasons you should be showing their results from all those seasons, and especially if a player might have had lower stats last season due to something explainable like maybe the team changed the system a lot. I see the problem in really all your videos that you become way too focused on only looking at the prior season when you should be looking at the prior 3 seasons, but especially when you are projecting for the future. I also believe you should assign a much bigger penalty to your rankings when players haven't played in the WNBA due to either 1) playing overseas instead or 2) being injured. Your projections should be how players can be impactful in the WNBA and the more a player develops a history of missing games due to 1) playing overseas or 2) injuries, the more that player is likely to have that continue and therefore not achieve the impact you are projecting. Like if you take a player who played in France, you first need to admit she will be unlikely to do as well in the WNBA, and you don't know how much less, but you should b e very conservative about that, because she hasn't proved herself in the WNBA. And also, you should apply an additional penalty because every season she doesn't play in the WNBA makes it less and less likely she'll have any significant future impact in the WNBA. If a player is playing in a foreign league like France, which is problematic to start with, and also playing for her national team, then you have to know that every couple of seasons there's going to be a conflict with the national team on top of the likelihood she will continue to play in France. So that's a lot of reduced impact you should be factoring into your projections. I just don't think you should be so high on foreign players who we might not even see in the WNBA, or even if they play maybe not for a significant amount of time. You should be downgrading those players because there's little indication they will have any big future WNBA impact if they aren't even playing in the WNBA and you can mention they are better than their rankings but the rankings factor in the likelihood they won't play much in the WNBA thus won't have much impact. There's a similar problem with injuries, like how you put Brink as #2 overall but all we've seen so far is that she wasn't able to last song with the physicality of the WNBA, so do we think she's going to miss 90% of her next season as well? No one knows but the more a player shows a likelihood to get injured at the pro level, the more you should be discounting that player because there's a much bigger risk that Brink will miss more time in the future than there is that someone like Boston will do that. To make an impact, players need to show up and be healthy. The numbers you put up for Brink looked good but multiply all those numbers by the games she played over 40 games possible and those numbers will look terrible. In any case, you should be moving someone with an injury history like that down at least a full level and, again, you can mention they are better than their ranking if they can stay healthy, but till they prove they can stay healthy, you are conservatively factoring in a high risk they will be injured again. So, you fix this things - like Brink shouldn't be tier 2 at this point she should be tier 3 at best with her injury risk, and probably every other player that missed most of the season with injury or who played overseas also needs to go down at least one tier to account for their future risk, and your list starts to look a lot more reasonable, and there is a much higher likelihood that the players you are talking about the most and having higher on your list will be players we can actually see play in the future, not players we might never see in the WNBA.
Im not surprised that you have Angel at 7 cause you always underrated her.I don't think you a hater cause there's pretty good reasons to. But I think Angel floor is 3rd or 4th on this list, her ceiling is top 2nd on this list. she was a top 30 scorer with historically bad finishing. she a 18 & 12 with average finishing. that got be top 3
It's based on the fact that a lot of people think she'll never be an average finisher. Not me personally but you'll notice that's why some mock drafts had her projected lower playing an undersized center at LSU at 6'3 her senior year even though she was a PF by natural position at Maryland. If she gets at least average or closer to her college number which was about 50% she's averaging 17 - 18 ppg and 12 rpg. I think she can get there within the next 2-3 seasons with good off season work.
@@RandomrazerLSU stunted her growth by moving her from small forward to Center. Now it worked out for them because she became a Champion but it hurt her long term, now she’s at power forward and playing another position she’s never played before. But now she says she wants to get back to her natural position which the small forward. But she has to get back those skill again and it’s even more difficult now.
@@RandomrazerShe won’t be an average finisher. Her mechanics are diabolical. She lays the ball up from the hip, that’s why she’s the most blocked player in WNBA history. She’s also a below average defender for her position. Can’t see Chicago winning a ring if Reese is the number one option.
@@mariobarnes8192 The mechanics on the lay up is a thing with almost all the female Terps sadly. She definitely isn't a below average defender, the girl plays good perimeter defense and has fast active hands. She made multiple all defensive teams in college for a reason even though I know its not the best litmus test. It's also apparent in her on/off defensive rating stats. The first option on offense needs to be Chennedy if she stays though but Angel needs to keep working on the short free throw line shot. Give it about 2-3 years before you give up all hope.
@@jeangrey5952 She shouldn't move back to small forward in my opinion. I know she was the #1 ranked recruit at the position back then but she'd be better off working on post moves and a semi reliable 10-12 footer.
@ Sherrod averaged not even 4 minutes a game for 10 games. She damn near hasn’t played in the w. Bro argue someone who actually gets minutes not some who won’t get a contract next year.
You basically don't know that you are doing??.. Angel Reese should be number 1 or at least 2.. If she gets 15 to 20 percent more efficient shooting she will be a 20pt and 10 rebound easily player... That would make her a top 5 player in the League....All she has to do is get more consistent in the perimeter because she is such a dominant force on the boards on offense and defense.. She just has to learn how to make layups... Those other players already have that skill... they have no upside...
I'm not sure you're using upside correctly 😂 it means the ability to improve, it doesn't have to start from having glaring deficiencies. Capacity to turn good into great is also upside.
I’d have Reese at #4. She’s already the best rebounder in the league and a great defender. If she improves offensively and can get her fg% in the high 40’s she can dominate for years..
The fg% just needs to get to about 46% to 50% and she's set if she picks up a short free throw line jumper with it. I want to see what she does in unrivaled with a legitimate PG as well. I personally would've had her at about 5 or 4 right now like you did.
@@HunterCruse14 as a preface, your video was great overall. Really appreciate the detail that you went through for your list. That being said, you’re missing one very clear thing on tape that you are ignoring - a tear of an ACL. Year to year decay in performance has been studied: Google “Return to Play and Performance in the Woman’s National Basketball Association After Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction” by Joseph Tramer and Lafi S. Khalil. Brink is nearly guaranteed to be worse than she was this season and should be no where near your top 5, let alone #2.
@ How about MULTIPLE games where she didn’t score a POINT??? How about constant foul trouble???? How about her terrible TS% since you love to ding AR for her inefficiency????
@@jamesjr232009 Reese is right below Brink in PFs per game lol (#3 in the league), with minimal to no shot blocking. Reese’s ts% is 46% with most shots being layups while Brink’s is 49% on half as many attempts per game, much more diverse shot profile, in 14 full games. What are you guys watching?
Clark is great. The problem I have with her is can she really get any better? What no one is saying is that unlike the rest of the young players in the WNBA Caitlin Clark may already be in her prime. This may sound crazy but it is not unpresidented. Tim Duncan came in very close to his prime and so did Candace Parker. Check their numbers. My point is, aside from the fact that her turnovers will go down and her 3pt shooting will slightly improve, we may have already seen the best of Clark.
@@eldowns379 Unless she gets bigger and stronger her defense will not improve, and she shoots logo treys what makes you think she will become a midrange scorer.
I agree that she has the most room to improve. On her shooting. Even if she never learns to shoot I would still rank her high though. She would just have to learn to make the rebound and kick it out. I worry about her getting to distracted by being an off the court star instead of committing to improving her game.
😂 Angel Reese should be #1 or tied for 1. Angel Reese is already the best rebounder/defensive player on this list. Then she has upside with her footwork being corrected for easier shots. Angel Reese can be a 20pt 14 rebound player and nobody else on this list has that upside.
She should definitely not be number 1 because Clark , Howard, and Boston exist but having her behind Cardoso and Rickea Jackson is definitely a choice given that besides the efficiency issue her performance would easily put her over them. I know he's not high on upside with Angel though which is why he has Brink so high based on upside alone. Angel just needs to keep working on her game and surprising people. I'd personally have her at 5 on this list but lets see what happens next season and during Unrivaled.
Angel Reese has higher chance to not develop any kind of jumpshot , then to go top 3 in this list. She is very good at rebounding, but she need to take at minimum ONE full off -season to have a new shooting form, or she will end up like NaLyssa Smith with broken one in year 3, and suffering alot because of it. She is elite at rebounding yes, but a player that has 4 -5 rebounds per game less then her, but can shoot the 3 ball and avg 3 made 3 pointers with same defense will bring more overall value to most teams then Reese, its not all abound rebounds she has to have better all around skill set, she is also not the fastest player or the biggest so she can get burned via fast guards or suffer form bully ball from bigger wings/centers. Lack of verticality /jump also means she is not efficient rim protector very low amount of blocks, something most position 4 help out with .
I agree that Angel Reese having a bigger upside than most of these players. Caitlin is mostly the same player we saw in college, but now she has more spacing and freedom. Paige don't have much of an upside when she comes into the league.
@@StarTraffic-z1o I don't know about more upside but I definitely think the upside is there if she continues working on her finishing. She has been spending this off season working on her jumpshot but lets not get ahead of ourselves. I'll wait until Unrivaled and next season before I say anything concrete about her the upside though.
@@faflafaflev3899 She's been spending this off season trying to rework the shooting form. She made several all defense teams in college based on her perimeter defending and steals so I do believe that's what she needs to continue working on. I know college isn't the perfect litmus test but it does give us something to look at. She won't be a rim protector but can play defense in a similar way to AT if she keeps working.
No horrible One on ONE defender should ever be ranked number ONE regardless what AGE they are. Especially when they are also leading the League By leaps and bounds in turnovers.
Caitlin is not a horrible defender. She's actually a pretty good on ball defender and will improve off the ball. Turnovers are high when a player is heliocentric like Caitlin, look at Lebron Or Curry.
@@emilyjohnson8427 Nope, not looking at the NBA, this is the WNBA. The place where they play below the Rim, not above it. Why folks want to compare Men to Women is delusional. And yes, CC is a horrible One on ONE defender.
@@emilyjohnson8427 every video that mentions caitlin this account comments this. no need to go back n forth with them. they just want attention let em argue with a wall.
@@emilyjohnson8427she a HORRIBLE on ball defender ,half the time she under the goal tryna grab the rebound. She definitely better as a off ball defender but I believe she number 1 on this list to but this list definitely bad and got more questions attached to it then Caitlin at #1 but I guess dude basing it off the potential he got for them and his projections on the players. Not actually who was the best per say or who is the best rn
If a 22 year old rookie Caitlin Clark was already able to be a Top 5 player in the WNBA, imagine the damage she could be doing by Age 25 (provided that she continues to be blessed by staying healthy even in the face of cheap shots & she’s blessed with a competent organization)
She'll be Neo in the matrix.
@@markyg236If Caitlin was the same race as JuJu Watkins, the WNBA would definitely want this
@@dewuster8885you mean race? And also the main issue that fans/players have would most likely not exist because if Caitlin was black… that’s kinda the whole point
@@dewuster8885what are you blathering about
So in other words if you give her everything and nothing goes wrong for her she will be the best?? 🤔 got it 👌🏾 😂😂😂 btw I love CC but Jeesh lol sound like a LeBron give them everything
Nice Ranking 😊
I thought Fiebich, Horston were much older. Didn't know they were still so young.
Kamilla Cardoso is 23 years old
The Reese disrespect is insane. I'm starting to believe that the media and content creators downplay her skills to boost their algorithm. Controversy sells.
Exactly
She has been kicked out for fucking Roids. She should not even be in the list and all accomplishments taken out. DEAL WITH IT
Reese is a terrible shooter, unless that changes, she will never be first team all WNBA.
@@PaulRounds-l7c she already was
@@WORKSbabynot on any legitimate list
Thank you sir for all the work you put in compilating information
Rickea already better than Brink.
I agree
Wait...this guy ranks Cameron Brink #2 and she only avg 7.5 pts on 43% shooting? Reese #7.....OK...it's your rankings...whatever!
You're braindead, lol. The Sky would trade Reese for Brink so fast it wouldn't even be a conversation.
100% agree with Brink at #2. Eye test - she's an absolute monster. Insane defensively, massive offensive upside. She might be a generational talent just like Caitlin.
Man Hunter... the Reese disrespect is becoming almost so bad im starting to question your credibility. She was a rookie all star, and got player of the week (among ALL w players) Even if her shooting never comes around (which it will with a better team and coach around her) if we assume she becomes a better defender, she should realistically only be behind CC.
He specified that the list isn't about current production, but potential.
You're just coping. Reese doesn't have any great potential. She is what she is. Incredible rebounder, poor defender and offensive player. There's only so much value there.
@@ryanb2607 Reese can be the player of her generation even if it is unlikely... Her ceilling is 24/25pts and I4/I5 rbs if she do that she will be alone in the world. She can win 3 wnba championship and be known as the most dominant player ever. But Caitlin, aja, phee, Stewie are more skilled and versatile ; out of reach for Reese. But her motor is generational and sky is the limit
Caitlyn is the better player, way better, way more complete and Brink is taller more skilled too than Reese. But Reese will dominates Brink harshly today and probably most times in their careers and Reese career can match CC career. CC can be MVP by herself true but with the right team Reese can be MVP too one day... This is the true potential of Reese
@@BaudreyFKy This sounds like pipe dreams. 15-16ppg is Reese ceiling, she's already there - she was given way too many offensive opportunities as a rookie, which is why she had the poorest mark inside of 3 feet in WNBA history for a big. She's not even a third option - it's much more likely she averages between 11-14ppg for most of her career with a new coach now that won't misuse her as an offensive focus.
Her defense is the real problem going forward - if she can turn into a solid defender, and maintain the elite defensive rebounding and offensive rebounding at the same time, she'll be one of the most valuable players in the league her entire career. Averaging 14 pts, 14 rbds and playing great defense would make her a one of one.
But the stuff about 25ppg and being an offensive threat - that's not reality, lol. It would take a miracle for her to be an efficient scorer, ever, in her career.
@@ryanb2607 She can't be an efficient scorer, regarding shooting yes. But she can probably make all the layup she misses and her number will be around 20 already. If at some point she had a point guard at Ionescu, CC, paige or Olivia Miles level. She realisticly can closing to 25 at her peak. She could be a volume scorer (meaning inefficient but volumic)with high usage rate...
Enjoyed the video, Hunter. Good arguments for each player. One player I think will become an elite or near elite scorer is Maddy Seigrist. She made great strides in year 2 before breaking a finger. Also, if she has Paige as her point guard, that will make her an even more effective scorer. Not sure if you have done a comparison video of Clark vs. Paige, but that would be interesting. Thank you
Don't understand the backlash in the comments. Man said Reese had the potential to be one of the best players in basketball, you can't call him a hater lol
Thank you!
Great stuff as always!
I don't understand why Boston is 3 when she's not projected to be a high level defensive center, nor does she stretch the floor from 3.
Cardoso is also a great passer at her position and is showing midrange shooting ability. All while having major defensive impact.
No way brink could show enough in only 15 games to be ranked number 2.
Feels like you fall in love with your projections/analysis too much.
I appreciate the effort but the logical inconsistencies across videos are hard to overlook.
Cordoso does not have a midrange jumper. I don’t know what you’re watching
I said showing mid range ability, which is true. She hit some this past season and is taking about one per game in China.
@@mariobarnes8192 she shot 60% from 16’ to 24’ last season
Brink is obviously #2. Use your eyes.
He said potential, not current production.
Hey Hunter, why isn’t Alissa Pili in there?
I think that you put too much emphasis on looking good and not enough on effectiveness, which a lot of people do, especially among a certain player’s fan base which is my biggest issue. I also place a greater emphasis on defense and doing the little things to help your team win. I’ll reserve judgment on most of these players.
Cam is also coming off an injury so to have her at #2 when you admitted you will do the list next year is odd. Hopefully she will dominate with whoever they draft at 2.
Based on my pre-draft evaluation
My opinion reese and cardoso’s success will rely solely on their guard play same with how Boston shined this year with Clark
I think guard play will help, but not be the see ole factor. Didn't Aliyah Boston shine before she played with Clark, as she was rookie of the year? Wasn't she already an all-star?
Boston really didn't change much from her rookie season to last season. She got easier shots, but she didn't take or make more. And her deense is stillpretty much the same. All star selection both seasons.
facts they way better the Boston and Clark duo they going to be the best duo in years to come watch
Pretty generous on brink.
No alissa pili??
If Coach REEVES actually allowed her to play REAL blanking Minutes, she might have been ROTY.
Great video
This list is bias
Brink can win DPOY next season while also avg 3 ast , coz she is willing passer, improve 3point to avg about 35%... its insane upside. Generational big for sure.
1. Howard
2. Clark
3. Reese
4. Boston
5. Brink
6. Jackson
U are a Reese hater. Bozo 😂
@Faz542 you are delusional and in 5 years you will see she was a nobody
If anything he ranked Reese too high. Shakira Austin is better in all aspects except rebounding.
@ who is talking to u mf
@@LLH952 you stupid as hell my guy that girl not a better scorer rebounder defender pass the ball then angel compare stats
@@LLH952 who are u clown
The Cam Brink delusion has got to stop.
He's going for perceived upside with these picks so I get it. I'll need to see her for a full season next year though to before I think that rating is justifiable.
She was easily the best shot blocker in the league before she was injured, we'll have to see how next season pans out.
She absolutely needs to adapt to WNBA physicality & she must understand she cannot block every shot, but the potential is off the charts. The best shot blocker in the sport, a willing passer and a workable 3 point shot & handle. Based on ceiling alone she could become a total player. Let's just see if it pans out.
She's not a great offensive player. Way too inconsistent and her 2P% stinks for her position.
@@_M.... She's very quick and agile for a big, I see a lot of potential. She'll need to bulk up though, those ladies are rough in there.
Good video. I don’t know if ppl in the comments don’t watch brink but she is literally a unicorn. Might take a step back due to the acl next year but will be a1 in ‘26.
also yes on caitlin. She has even more room to develop offensively. In her junior year, she used to score in variety-midrange, top of key, fadeaway. That went away in her senior year because of the way the Iowa roster was constructed.(Mainly 3s and layups). Hope she uses the off season to get back to that.
Otoh, the off ball defense is genuinely going to be hard. It took Steph until like 2018 to get better at that and Luka has been in the league for 6 years and he is still a zero there.
A unicorn with multiple zero point games
Why would she miss the next season? Wouldn't almost a year be more than enough to heal it?
Not arguing here, I just can't find any injury update.
Brink issue is she is a very mediocre offensive player. She had some terrible offensive performances before she go hurt.
@@mauroradice7845 I meant for her to get back to herself. It takes like 9 months to heal. But most players don’t get back to themselves until the year after that
@@_M.... please watch the tape. She can defend almost all five positions and is very good at spreading the floor. Her touch around the rim plus process speed was getting better too
Great video ,thought maddy seigrist would be ranked higher ,averaging around 15 minutes in her career with the wings ,once she gets more minutes ,she would have a higher chance to shine .
This guy is a angel Reese hater
Angel Reese is def number 1. Offense and defense. Had Angel had the “Team” around her she would have balled out. Let’s not forget she was number 1 rebounding beating Aja before she got hurt. Caitlin doesn’t know what defense is
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Can any Angel Reese fans explain why they're upset with her ranked at #7? He said the video is about potential, not current production.
She has no natural offensive game (it's the kind of awkward that doesn't get fixed), meaning little passing ability or vision (can't run the offense through her, either). And she was one of the worst defensive bigs last year. For her to continue to rebound at the rate she does, particularly on the offensive end, she'll continue to be a liability on defense as a trade-off. She's slow, so even if her rebounding goes down for better defense, she projects as average at best there.
Where's the big upside? She's a great rebounder. Beyond great, even. And that seems to be it. #7 seems more than fair.
Your entire comment is as wrong as wrong can get. Angel is an excellent defender who had a case for 2nd Team All Defense.
Angel is a really good for a player her size and sees the floor extremely well.
AR averaged 14 ppg shooting 39% from the field if she gets her % up to 45 which is very doable she’s at 18-20ppg and 13rebs with excellent defense. I would call that upside but I know you don’t know ball.
@@jamesjr232009 Angel Reese is an elite defensive rebounder, which gives a lot of defensive value, of course - but she is a poor on-ball and help defender.
Perhaps, you're out of your depth here - 39% from a PF who shoots almost exclusively lay-ins was actually the worst shooting performance inside of 5 feet by a qualifying player in WNBA history. Can you not comprehend the significance here?
One person doesn't know ball that is commenting - and it's you, lmao. But thanks for the laughs.
@ You don’t know what you’re talking she is at her best on the ball you obviously have not watched her play because if you did you would know that. She had the best defensive rating on the team for a reason. Her weaknesses on D are rim protection (though she’s NOT a center) and transition D because she gets lazy at times.
Where did I say she was good offensively dummy???? I said with a little improvement she can be great. Why do we assume every other rookie can improve their deficiencies but AR??? Can you not comprehend that????
Most of the time I think you are spot on with your predictions but I don't think this list will age very well. I think Angel will be the 2nd best player and Fiebich could be 3.
This gotta be ranked off potential and your projections ,not who actually the best at the moment ..
Cardoso over Reese is definitely…something. This seems to be a common take. I know Cardoso has a lot of potential that I’m excited to see her live up to, but I would like to see her actually outplay Reese in the now before we start putting her above Reese because so far that hasn’t been the case.
Waiting to see what Reese does in future seasons before considering her ceiling to be higher seems inconsistent with putting Brink at a definitive #2 after playing less than half a season, but I digress.
I mean people that actually watched sky games u would see that when coach tspoon let Kamila play longer she would outplay reeese but most of the times when Kamila was getting hot coach would bench her that had us Kamilla fans kinda of mad and we like tspoon don’t get me wrong plus angel played longer than her but if u look overseas now look at how she’s bailing back to back to back 20+ point games this game today she went 11/11 100% from the field hopefully this new coach we have can use them both better
@@daivigomes2084 China isn't exactly a good indicator of what a player can do in the W with better defenders. Nalyssa Smith is putting up like 20+ points and 8+ rebounds. Cardoso would also sit primarily if she were in foul trouble. We saw Cardoso without Reese after she got injured and Cardoso's fg% actually dropped instead and she didn't shoot many more attempts.
She needs to be confident in her footwork in order to create her own shot instead of passing out. I believe they can both work but you need Angel to work on her midrange and facilitating, you'll also need Cardoso to stay out of foul trouble and use her footwork and size to beat her defender in the post. They also need a proper PG and spacing provided by shooters to give Cardoso space to operate.
These are projections, not where they are now
@daivigomes2084 false...They both were up and down...Kamilla had games where she was god awful
@@ricorogers9319 that was when she came back from injury she was playing shy but after the Olympic break she went off Reese starter good but what was her excuse after the break
THANK YOU
Angel at 7 when she can get way better, is stupid take , offensively she will get better considering she 13.5 13.1 and her offence isn't there yet. You crazy.
Interesting rundown. You specifically mentioned that this video wouldn't just be based on how players did last season, but how you project them to do long-term, which I agree with. However, then in your video you had way too much focus on last season's numbers. That's all you showed, which is fine for people like Brink and Clark, who only have last season, but for players with multiple seasons you should be showing their results from all those seasons, and especially if a player might have had lower stats last season due to something explainable like maybe the team changed the system a lot. I see the problem in really all your videos that you become way too focused on only looking at the prior season when you should be looking at the prior 3 seasons, but especially when you are projecting for the future. I also believe you should assign a much bigger penalty to your rankings when players haven't played in the WNBA due to either 1) playing overseas instead or 2) being injured. Your projections should be how players can be impactful in the WNBA and the more a player develops a history of missing games due to 1) playing overseas or 2) injuries, the more that player is likely to have that continue and therefore not achieve the impact you are projecting. Like if you take a player who played in France, you first need to admit she will be unlikely to do as well in the WNBA, and you don't know how much less, but you should b e very conservative about that, because she hasn't proved herself in the WNBA. And also, you should apply an additional penalty because every season she doesn't play in the WNBA makes it less and less likely she'll have any significant future impact in the WNBA. If a player is playing in a foreign league like France, which is problematic to start with, and also playing for her national team, then you have to know that every couple of seasons there's going to be a conflict with the national team on top of the likelihood she will continue to play in France. So that's a lot of reduced impact you should be factoring into your projections. I just don't think you should be so high on foreign players who we might not even see in the WNBA, or even if they play maybe not for a significant amount of time. You should be downgrading those players because there's little indication they will have any big future WNBA impact if they aren't even playing in the WNBA and you can mention they are better than their rankings but the rankings factor in the likelihood they won't play much in the WNBA thus won't have much impact. There's a similar problem with injuries, like how you put Brink as #2 overall but all we've seen so far is that she wasn't able to last song with the physicality of the WNBA, so do we think she's going to miss 90% of her next season as well? No one knows but the more a player shows a likelihood to get injured at the pro level, the more you should be discounting that player because there's a much bigger risk that Brink will miss more time in the future than there is that someone like Boston will do that. To make an impact, players need to show up and be healthy. The numbers you put up for Brink looked good but multiply all those numbers by the games she played over 40 games possible and those numbers will look terrible. In any case, you should be moving someone with an injury history like that down at least a full level and, again, you can mention they are better than their ranking if they can stay healthy, but till they prove they can stay healthy, you are conservatively factoring in a high risk they will be injured again. So, you fix this things - like Brink shouldn't be tier 2 at this point she should be tier 3 at best with her injury risk, and probably every other player that missed most of the season with injury or who played overseas also needs to go down at least one tier to account for their future risk, and your list starts to look a lot more reasonable, and there is a much higher likelihood that the players you are talking about the most and having higher on your list will be players we can actually see play in the future, not players we might never see in the WNBA.
Cam at 2 is insane , and Cardosa ovsr Reese is a wild take took . Reese was an all star and lead the league in a stat .
Im not surprised that you have Angel at 7 cause you always underrated her.I don't think you a hater cause there's pretty good reasons to. But I think Angel floor is 3rd or 4th on this list, her ceiling is top 2nd on this list. she was a top 30 scorer with historically bad finishing. she a 18 & 12 with average finishing. that got be top 3
It's based on the fact that a lot of people think she'll never be an average finisher. Not me personally but you'll notice that's why some mock drafts had her projected lower playing an undersized center at LSU at 6'3 her senior year even though she was a PF by natural position at Maryland. If she gets at least average or closer to her college number which was about 50% she's averaging 17 - 18 ppg and 12 rpg. I think she can get there within the next 2-3 seasons with good off season work.
@@RandomrazerLSU stunted her growth by moving her from small forward to Center. Now it worked out for them because she became a Champion but it hurt her long term, now she’s at power forward and playing another position she’s never played before. But now she says she wants to get back to her natural position which the small forward. But she has to get back those skill again and it’s even more difficult now.
@@RandomrazerShe won’t be an average finisher. Her mechanics are diabolical. She lays the ball up from the hip, that’s why she’s the most blocked player in WNBA history. She’s also a below average defender for her position. Can’t see Chicago winning a ring if Reese is the number one option.
@@mariobarnes8192 The mechanics on the lay up is a thing with almost all the female Terps sadly. She definitely isn't a below average defender, the girl plays good perimeter defense and has fast active hands. She made multiple all defensive teams in college for a reason even though I know its not the best litmus test. It's also apparent in her on/off defensive rating stats. The first option on offense needs to be Chennedy if she stays though but Angel needs to keep working on the short free throw line shot. Give it about 2-3 years before you give up all hope.
@@jeangrey5952 She shouldn't move back to small forward in my opinion. I know she was the #1 ranked recruit at the position back then but she'd be better off working on post moves and a semi reliable 10-12 footer.
I would put Fiebich higher
1:42 True, girl was a traffic cone on defense.
You lost all credibility with Brink at 2
Reese is #1
Angel disrespect- she is top 5
And no love for Sherrod and MD.
Sherrod barely got minutes. How can she be ranked. She will probably be out of the league soon
@mariobarnes8192 he literally listed overseas players. Use commonsense.
@@terrancehall9762 Who on that list is Sherrod better than?
@mariobarnes8192 the ones who haven't played in the w.
@ Sherrod averaged not even 4 minutes a game for 10 games. She damn near hasn’t played in the w. Bro argue someone who actually gets minutes not some who won’t get a contract next year.
Yeah, can't take you seriously..😂😂😂Angel at 7 but your top player doesn't even play defense..😂😂😂😂😂
I agree with the top 3. I would rank Nyara higher, Shakira lower, Nalyssa higher, Leila LOWER, Leonie higher, Rhyne lower.
You basically don't know that you are doing??.. Angel Reese should be number 1 or at least 2.. If she gets 15 to 20 percent more efficient shooting she will be a 20pt and 10 rebound easily player... That would make her a top 5 player in the League....All she has to do is get more consistent in the perimeter because she is such a dominant force on the boards on offense and defense.. She just has to learn how to make layups... Those other players already have that skill... they have no upside...
I'm not sure you're using upside correctly 😂 it means the ability to improve, it doesn't have to start from having glaring deficiencies. Capacity to turn good into great is also upside.
15-20% increase is unrealistic for any player even in the NBA
Cam Brink is officially OVERRATED 👎🏾😑👎🏾
I’d have Reese at #4. She’s already the best rebounder in the league and a great defender. If she improves offensively and can get her fg% in the high 40’s she can dominate for years..
The fg% just needs to get to about 46% to 50% and she's set if she picks up a short free throw line jumper with it. I want to see what she does in unrivaled with a legitimate PG as well. I personally would've had her at about 5 or 4 right now like you did.
I take her at #1
I like Naz Hilman
Absolutely no with Brink at #2. “If we assume…” just stop there.
Everybody else has to “prove” but with Brink we “assume”
I had Brink in that tier pre-draft & I saw nothing on tape to begin her rookie season that said she should be ranked lower
@@HunterCruse14 as a preface, your video was great overall. Really appreciate the detail that you went through for your list.
That being said, you’re missing one very clear thing on tape that you are ignoring - a tear of an ACL. Year to year decay in performance has been studied: Google “Return to Play and Performance in the Woman’s National Basketball Association After Anterior Cruciate Ligament Reconstruction” by Joseph Tramer and Lafi S. Khalil.
Brink is nearly guaranteed to be worse than she was this season and should be no where near your top 5, let alone #2.
@ How about MULTIPLE games where she didn’t score a POINT??? How about constant foul trouble???? How about her terrible TS% since you love to ding AR for her inefficiency????
@@jamesjr232009 Reese is right below Brink in PFs per game lol (#3 in the league), with minimal to no shot blocking. Reese’s ts% is 46% with most shots being layups while Brink’s is 49% on half as many attempts per game, much more diverse shot profile, in 14 full games. What are you guys watching?
Clark is great. The problem I have with her is can she really get any better? What no one is saying is that unlike the rest of the young players in the WNBA Caitlin Clark may already be in her prime. This may sound crazy but it is not unpresidented. Tim Duncan came in very close to his prime and so did Candace Parker. Check their numbers. My point is, aside from the fact that her turnovers will go down and her 3pt shooting will slightly improve, we may have already seen the best of Clark.
Facts
Her mid range and defense will also improve so yes
Doubtful, she got better every single year in college, and where she started from as a freshman was pretty amazing
This was her floor. She will cook next year and beyond
@@eldowns379 Unless she gets bigger and stronger her defense will not improve, and she shoots logo treys what makes you think she will become a midrange scorer.
Reese has the biggest upside in the league
She's going to be good but Rickea has a higher upside.
Rickea doesn't have Angel's motor
I agree that she has the most room to improve. On her shooting. Even if she never learns to shoot I would still rank her high though. She would just have to learn to make the rebound and kick it out. I worry about her getting to distracted by being an off the court star instead of committing to improving her game.
@@chrispryor-lk2tc Angel doesn't have Rickea's touch.
True. But shooting can be taught. What Reese has can't be and that's a unstoppable motor and desire
Defense is effort.. u don’t need skill to play defense just will..
Just not true
All these under 25 so called top 25 players are in for a Rude awakening once the next generation of talent comes in from college.
😂 Angel Reese should be #1 or tied for 1. Angel Reese is already the best rebounder/defensive player on this list. Then she has upside with her footwork being corrected for easier shots. Angel Reese can be a 20pt 14 rebound player and nobody else on this list has that upside.
She should definitely not be number 1 because Clark , Howard, and Boston exist but having her behind Cardoso and Rickea Jackson is definitely a choice given that besides the efficiency issue her performance would easily put her over them. I know he's not high on upside with Angel though which is why he has Brink so high based on upside alone. Angel just needs to keep working on her game and surprising people. I'd personally have her at 5 on this list but lets see what happens next season and during Unrivaled.
Angel Reese has higher chance to not develop any kind of jumpshot , then to go top 3 in this list.
She is very good at rebounding, but she need to take at minimum ONE full off -season to have a new shooting form, or she will end up like NaLyssa Smith with broken one in year 3, and suffering alot because of it.
She is elite at rebounding yes, but a player that has 4 -5 rebounds per game less then her, but can shoot the 3 ball and avg 3 made 3 pointers with same defense will bring more overall value to most teams then Reese, its not all abound rebounds she has to have better all around skill set, she is also not the fastest player or the biggest so she can get burned via fast guards or suffer form bully ball from bigger wings/centers.
Lack of verticality /jump also means she is not efficient rim protector very low amount of blocks, something most position 4 help out with .
I agree that Angel Reese having a bigger upside than most of these players. Caitlin is mostly the same player we saw in college, but now she has more spacing and freedom. Paige don't have much of an upside when she comes into the league.
@@StarTraffic-z1o I don't know about more upside but I definitely think the upside is there if she continues working on her finishing. She has been spending this off season working on her jumpshot but lets not get ahead of ourselves. I'll wait until Unrivaled and next season before I say anything concrete about her the upside though.
@@faflafaflev3899 She's been spending this off season trying to rework the shooting form. She made several all defense teams in college based on her perimeter defending and steals so I do believe that's what she needs to continue working on. I know college isn't the perfect litmus test but it does give us something to look at. She won't be a rim protector but can play defense in a similar way to AT if she keeps working.
No horrible One on ONE defender should ever be ranked number ONE regardless what AGE they are. Especially when they are also leading the League By leaps and bounds in turnovers.
Caitlin is not a horrible defender. She's actually a pretty good on ball defender and will improve off the ball. Turnovers are high when a player is heliocentric like Caitlin, look at Lebron Or Curry.
@@emilyjohnson8427 Nope, not looking at the NBA, this is the WNBA. The place where they play below the Rim, not above it. Why folks want to compare Men to Women is delusional. And yes, CC is a horrible One on ONE defender.
@@emilyjohnson8427 every video that mentions caitlin this account comments this. no need to go back n forth with them. they just want attention let em argue with a wall.
Lo.. good one.
@@emilyjohnson8427she a HORRIBLE on ball defender ,half the time she under the goal tryna grab the rebound. She definitely better as a off ball defender but I believe she number 1 on this list to but this list definitely bad and got more questions attached to it then Caitlin at #1 but I guess dude basing it off the potential he got for them and his projections on the players. Not actually who was the best per say or who is the best rn
As soon as you say Angel Reese is the best rebounder i gave you a Thumbs Down
Because you’re an idiot