If somebody from the Future had told us that One day we would see Slash, Duff and Axl playing the infamous The General live... Would we have believed him? Surreal. Just surreal.
@@themeditations6413 No I disagree, you should just stop listening. It causes you to do nothing other than complain and that's a waste of fucking time.
3:38 so badass. He doesnt sound bad here either, he does that verse with that swing. "Is that i NEVER took the tiiime to FORGIVE". Well done axl. Well done.
Well now hearing the released studio version of the general I can say for sure that axl preforms this song incredibly well. And honestly I think I prefer the live version more because I can understand his words more than I can on the studio version.
I can't believe how old this stuff actually is - The Synthesizer parts of this song used to be the Intro of their 2006 Tour Shows and I think I heard it at a few bootlegs of 2001 and 2002 too! PS: Yess I'm a GnR bootleg Nerd 😅
Definitely my favourite of the "new" songs in the last few years; the menace of the verses... the fact Axl can actually sing it by his current standards (there's even a bit of the old rasp in there at times!!)... I'm so glad this The General's gotten mostly positive feedback (speaking as someone who actually liked Absurd and was a bit sad it got a hammering!!).
Absurd had more potential they couldve added in the 2002 parts to make the song longer and then i have a good idea for the music video but i doubt theyll put one out for it (i know it technically has one but meh)
Would have loved to have heard him sing this song when he wrote it…back 05/06. Saw him around that time. He was phenomenal & to this day it’s probably the best live gig I’ve ever attended. It’s bittersweet hearing the new singles nearly 20 years after the fact. I’m stoked we finally get to hear them, but they’re in no shape to pull them off live nowadays. Axl’s vocals on Chinese Democracy were off the charts high for about 80% of those songs, amazing performance on that album & era.
Well they used the clip as the intro when I saw them in 06 & Sebastian had an interview in metal hammer in 07 talking about how it was his favorite tune outta what he hard. So it’s been well in the bag for a long time now. So, 17, 18, 19 years who gives a crap, it’s been sitting around forever & there’s no way he can touch it live now, plus now he has a guitar who’s not suited for any of those songs from that era.
Axl looks so cool here like a crazy rocker. He’s got his swag back here. I feel like he lost his confidence during the pandemic but he’s getting back again
Well he has his trademark voice most part of the choruses. Except from the line "those unspoken feelings". His rasp is more high frequently than in the 90's, more like the 80''s actually. Think of Demon Bell..
But you're right about exactly that part. On high notes I can't make a different between current and 80's Axl. I think low frequency rasp is tearing his voice more than rasp with higher frequency. Logically, lower rasp requires longer oscillations of his vocal cords. So he's saving his voice by pushing down his falsetto to a lower register rather than pushing up his deeper nasal voice. I'm 100 he still has it though. Would love him to sing like that on studio recordings, but guess he want to be able to meet the expectations live from a studio recording..
Is that another Chinese throwaway track? I hope not cause they need to just write brand new shit in a room with duff, axl, and slash, and get Izzy in there too cause he had a lot to do with their songwriting skills.
@@manicmurph Folks been saying that for years I want all the old tracks AND new stuff But you can put all that Izzy stuff to rest He doesn't want any part of GNR and honestly he hasn't written anything worth a shit since he left
@@LN-Lifer that is true but that's why they need to get all of them working together in one room like in the old days. Can you imagine not being able to be in the same room with someone over millions of dollars? I think Axl is trying to rewrite Chinese democracy but with Duff and Slash. Hard Skool was the only decent song they've put out of the three. I just wonder if they're hanging out before or after the gigs and writing shit or are they just going back to their swanky hotel rooms with their model girlfriends? I'd like to hear all of it too. I know Duff and Slash can write good rock music. If they wouldn't put sorum back on the drums it would sound more like them to cats he takes the illusion records and did the spaghetti incident. I'm thinking songs that rock like on the first VR album but with Axl singing over it. He's been doing some of their songs live (which I'm surprised cause of axls ego..lol) and his voice fits in so nicely especially in slither. I think if Axl were to take that first VR record and put some good vocals and good piano melodies and I think it could be UYI sounding. Idk. I just wanna hear some shit already.. Some GOOD shit! 😂 But the rehashed sings that were written 30 years ago. Like are they trying to hold onto these songs cause these are the closest songs written to the illusion songs? They must be so afraid to get in a room together and jam it out. A new guns album that was done properly would be a huge world changing thing just like whether Metallica puts out their albums. It's gotta be really good though and they should scrap the 3 songs they redid and just start from scratch. I mean they been touring together again since 2017 and we only get three rehashed subs from Chinese democracy era? Like why would they even do that. Axl still thinks it's 2001 or what??
Acho q não é impressão não... em alguma entrevista o axl ja falou sobre a vontade de compor trilha sonora para filmes... Com certeza tem um pouco disso aqui. Até pq a arquestra isolada desse musica é bem épica
@@undeadpriest Ahh gotcha on that, he's been really hit or miss, but more miss at this point. Some people know when to say when and go out with dignity, others just wanna milk it I guess.
@@undeadpriest And why exactly do I need to enjoy someone's work 100%? Lots of bands I like release shit music though an entire career. When someone likes everything without being objective that makes them a fan boy groupie enamored with celebrity.
GnR are my favorite band since Appetite release (make your math...). Axl has to accept the fact his voice is gone, for whatever reason, and stop making new songs going to high. Still, when he sings first albums lyrics, he is (more or less) still in shape.
I simply can't understand how he's not able to pull off the first lines of the song without having to use falsetto. Im a bass singer but i can effortlessly reach those notes.
I was thinking exactly the same. Even more confusing is that he sings without falsetto in the same and maby higher register on other songs.Fuck, he almost reach that register by talking introducing the song. Is it some artistical reason more than technical? I, mean.. singing "daddy don't" with his deep base voice wont do it maby😂
Well Axl demage his vocal cords. He is using his clean voice after 4 troat surgery. He is saving his voice. He is profesional singer. He knows what to do.
This paper has as aim to demystify something that afflicts many fans of Guns N 'Roses. After all, what would have happened to the vocalist Axl Rose? While Axl has a good tone (2nd baritone), it can be stated that most of the time he sang out of his vocal range, often accompanied by the use of a very dangerous vocal technique for those who do not have total control of it, the rasp. Perhaps the biggest mistake of his career was to have used excessive rasp without first studying the technique. Many singing teachers refuse to teach rasp, because the probability of the student doing incorrectly is very large. The truth is, of course, singing tends to use the rasp through the canyon, when in fact it should be carried through the soft palate - sing with the rasp through the canyon is suicide - but it is very difficult to do it properly, it is difficult to perform the technique by means of the soft palate, so much that most of the singers who used to rasp impaired voice long term. You can name a few rock singers who have total mastery of this technique, singers like Ronnie James Dio, for example, dominated masterfully. At first, the rasp train is through audiology exercise called fry, which besides correcting the posture of the vocal fold, allows the practitioner gradually bring the rasp to get the soft palate, taking it out of the throat and preventing damage future ace vocal cords. Besides the fry, there are other important for those who want to learn to sing rasp sustainably exercises. Just look for a competent singing teacher and he will demystify the technique to the student. The fact is that, to use the rasp without prior study of technique, Axl severely damaged his vocal chords. Even in 1993 shows, we could already see Axl with a much weaker than in previous years' voice. The rasp resulted in nodules (calluses) on the vocal chords of Axl. Possibly, this was the main reason for having so many years without Axl sing live, between 1994 and 2001. Between 1997 and 1999, he recorded most of the vocals on the live album Live Era in the studio and it was a noticeable change in his voice, but was still recognizable and the rasp was still there, overdosed, it is true, but it was there. In 2000, he played Dead Flowers with Gilby Clarke and his voice was still recognizable, he was still enjoying the rasp. Anyway, after this presentation with Gilby, Axl decided to undergo a surgery for the removal of these nodules. This type of surgery have as a repair, and calluses of the vocal chords leave the cleaner voice, and the rasp (strident, hoarseness) voice is dissipated briefly. Exactly for this reason that in 2001, just one year after singing with Gilby and after the infamous surgical procedure, Axl showed up at the House of Blues and Rock in Rio, as well as throughout 2002 tour, singing with a cleaner voice, having been forbidden by doctors to use rasp, otherwise you could incur irreparable damage to your voice. As no longer had the power the rasp gave him, Axl is forced to enhance other features such as the head voice, which has never been as consistent as the chest voice, moreover, also enhanced the use of belting. Technically, Axl had improved, but the rasp was and is very much needed for several Guns songs since Axl dwelt fans of Guns N 'Roses to hear him sing with him. About that time followed closely resembles that Axl was bombarded by criticism by the new way of singing, and perhaps this was the main reason for the cancellation of the 2002 tour. Tired from criticism of his voice on tour 2001/2002, in 2004, he did another surgery, this time to give greater depth to his voice, after this procedure, its got a little more treble and deep bass, giving the false impression that his voice would have recovered the stridency of previous years. Contrary medical advice, Axl went back to using rasp in 2006, but his voice did not externava more natural stridency as in the past. Many times, he sounded hoarse, stressed, superficial and without the scope of yore. Many people define as Axl sang well or not because he has used rasp or not, but singing is not only used rasp. Several factors have to be analyzed, extent, projection, depth, vibrato, head voice, chest voice, belting, etc.. Returning to use rasp, it was clearly noticeable that he suffered at the shows, you could see his veins pop out of the canyon and some feared for his health, but adored the sound that his voice was producing, recalling again, vaguely true, the past. But it was not healthy, Axl never sang in a sustainable manner. In 2010, he sang many sets well because he started to abuse the rasp, using it on every song, but I repeat, singing is not only rasp. Even with the rasp, Axl found himself out of tune even more than in 2002, when he did not use the rasp, but it remained tuned in good part, as can be seen in songs such as The Blues and Madagascar. But truth be told, although not healthy for him, it was spectacular for the fans, the voice that echoed Axl in 2010, because maybe it was the year in which his voice was closer to the heydays. This does not mean that it was very good as such. Importantly, even in its heyday, Axl's voice has never been characterized by technology, but by the power the rasp gave him, it was by that feeling that Axl conquered fans. Yes, it is true that many songs from Guns are, say, different and strange without rasp. But this is because Axl fans have accustomed to it, while he did not think long term. He worked hard in 2010 to keep up the entire tour using the rasp, but as stated earlier, did not sing in a sustainable way, and it was noticeable that he used the rasp through the canyon and not the soft palate, which proves that perhaps he has not found a teacher who had the courage to teach him the rasp properly after their surgeries, for which he was subjected. There is also evidence that, in addition to vocal chord nodules, throughout his career, Axl has also had laryngopharyngeal reflux, same problem which affected numerous vocalists such as Edu Falaschi, for example. It is possible that with every effort made between 2006 and 2010, Axl has acquired new nodules on his vocal chords, and that because of this, it has drastically reduced the use of the rasp since 2011, having its apex in 2014, where his voice is clean most of the time during shows. But unlike 2002, today Axl no longer have the breath that had at that time, so he can not support and sustain the notes, as he could in 2002, therefore, today his voice sounds worse than in 2002, it sounds wound up and without support. As a result, the tendency is that the set list for the coming years brings up only songs that are his original fabric, ie, songs that have him sing only with the chest voice, songs like You Ain't The First, Mr Bronwstone, Bad Obsession, Knockin 'On Heavens Door, Don't Cry, Doule Talkin Jive, Down On The Farm, It's So Easy, So Fine, etc.. In the studio, you can see him struggling through the rasp to present a result to remember its heyday on the next albums, but even on Chinese Democracy, it is noticeable that he drastically reduced the use of the rasp. In proportion, as his voice sounds more technical, it does not sound as powerful anymore. Axl himself acknowledged in an interview on That Metal Show, which exaggerated the recording some songs in the studio, as You Could Be Mine, for example. He said he thought: "And now? How will I sing it live without damaging my voice?" He did not think the long term, but in general it was worth it, because using his voice under the effect of rasp, even without the necessary technique to use it, the guy has spectacular songs. But here the question begs: What Axl could do to re-submit satisfactory results in stages? Well, first, he could slim down, giving himself more breathing space for live performances. Losing weight would mean more endurance, ie, he could improve his live performance, which would help for him to keep a good support at times when needed to achieve higher grades. Secondly, he could study in depth the technical rasp with an expert teacher, and use it correctly and sustainably. He'd need to find a balance between all the vocal techniques, a balance between the head voice, the chest voice and rasp, and not to compromise its future. There's no need to sing with or without rasp all the time, but he needs to find a balance. Thirdly, he could undergo a surgical procedure called Voicelift, which is responsible for the rejuvenation of the vocal chords procedure. Singers like Steven Tyler and David Coverdale have already undergone this procedure a few years ago. So if you're rock vocalist or intend to be, and intend to use rasp while singing, study the technique carefully, take good care of your voice, avoid the cliche of drinking and smoking, be disciplined and keep up to date about human anatomy, especially in regard to the muscles of the vocal chords.
Correcto pésimo batería. Muy desordenado. Pero Matt en su momento discutió con Axl . Es una lástima . Da vergüenza como terminó el tema, la cara de slash como diciendo que haces!!!
@@goncaloandre9642No GnR songs ended when slash, duff and Izzy left. They were the musical song writers. No other people can achieve the same level of quality and composition to put out the bangers of AFD and UYI. These are the facts.
There's some good parts, and I'm sure it'll sound different when it's not played live. This is showing that Axl still can belt out the rapy voice if he wants to. This just doesn't sound like a guns n roses song.
I’m not sure what you all like about this. The new OLD stuff is not that good. The songs on CD were good although I liked Brian May’s solo on CitR on them demos more than the final song.
That’s cuz this song was not written with Duff, slash and Izzy. Any song from AFD or UYI is way better than this song, this song needs a lot of work, it does not rock. I say this with love for the band because the brutal truth is better than lip service. They are capable of writing bangers, but it will take the entire band writing, not just axl.
The way Slash performs The General here is clearly different from the way Robin does the solo on the General studio track. How can nobody see or hear this?
I hope you're right and that the version we got is an old demo. I really prefer the live version over that one. Live is epic, the recorded one...not so much. But unfortunately the time of the leaks seem to indicate it's the final version...
The song is actually called "General Failure", but "The General" is more pop oriented resulting when Izzy and Steven are out of the picture. [Apologies for the harsh criticism]
If somebody from the Future had told us that One day we would see Slash, Duff and Axl playing the infamous The General live... Would we have believed him? Surreal. Just surreal.
I wish they kept going after 95. It's good they are together but they have lost the hard rock sound, kind of sounds like GNMickey Mouse
@@themeditations6413stop, that joke is not funny axl is old now you can't expect him to sing like he did 15 years ago
@@marinadiamondz yeah I agree, he should've stopped
@@themeditations6413 No I disagree, you should just stop listening. It causes you to do nothing other than complain and that's a waste of fucking time.
@@themeditations6413why??? They're doing great selling out stadiums, go away if u don't like it, is that simple
3:38 so badass. He doesnt sound bad here either, he does that verse with that swing. "Is that i NEVER took the tiiime to FORGIVE". Well done axl. Well done.
2:53 the fact that he tried to wake his 80's voice makes me really happy
I know right I have ben listening to this part of the song on repeat
I'm doing this 😂😂@@Tracer_James
2:55 you can listen the 80's Axl trying to wake
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2:52 - 2:59 love his voice here
Literally sounded like 1991 axl was coming back out
Well now hearing the released studio version of the general I can say for sure that axl preforms this song incredibly well. And honestly I think I prefer the live version more because I can understand his words more than I can on the studio version.
His words...
@@apoet-om1wg whoops I meant his
@@hunterbulluck3416 🙂
Buy a vinyl and play it, It sounds more clear
Yeah I didn't like the mix either. Hard Skools mix was great, Perhaps was great, Absurd and the General were kind of off a bit.
I can't believe how old this stuff actually is - The Synthesizer parts of this song used to be the Intro of their 2006 Tour Shows and I think I heard it at a few bootlegs of 2001 and 2002 too! PS: Yess I'm a GnR bootleg Nerd 😅
It's nice to see another fellow bootleg enjoyer
Definitely my favourite of the "new" songs in the last few years; the menace of the verses... the fact Axl can actually sing it by his current standards (there's even a bit of the old rasp in there at times!!)... I'm so glad this The General's gotten mostly positive feedback (speaking as someone who actually liked Absurd and was a bit sad it got a hammering!!).
Absurd had more potential they couldve added in the 2002 parts to make the song longer and then i have a good idea for the music video but i doubt theyll put one out for it (i know it technically has one but meh)
Tuve la fortuna de estar ahí en vivo y estuvo increíble!!!!!!
Very very god song
We need more music like this
Would have loved to have heard him sing this song when he wrote it…back 05/06. Saw him around that time. He was phenomenal & to this day it’s probably the best live gig I’ve ever attended. It’s bittersweet hearing the new singles nearly 20 years after the fact. I’m stoked we finally get to hear them, but they’re in no shape to pull them off live nowadays. Axl’s vocals on Chinese Democracy were off the charts high for about 80% of those songs, amazing performance on that album & era.
The music was wrote before 2006, they didn't play a show in 05 either
Well they used the clip as the intro when I saw them in 06 & Sebastian had an interview in metal hammer in 07 talking about how it was his favorite tune outta what he hard. So it’s been well in the bag for a long time now. So, 17, 18, 19 years who gives a crap, it’s been sitting around forever & there’s no way he can touch it live now, plus now he has a guitar who’s not suited for any of those songs from that era.
La primera vez que escuche el nombre de esta canción creo que fue en 1999.
It really is a shame that CD didn't get the attention it deserved. Phenomenal album!
SOUNDS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
4:35 Slash really got the soul of the song… darkness and pain on the lyrics
this is incredible axl is god
No, he's just a singer with a dying voice in a greatest hits nostalgia rock band that made some great songs over 30 years ago.
@@NPK476man wtf, get out
Axl is awesome. GnR are awesome :)
4:30 goosebumps
Axl is amazing. But it hurts me big time when I hear the lyrics. We all have no idea what kind of pain he's been dealing with throughout this time.
The lyrics are probably a letter for his family, specially his dad
Axl looks so cool here like a crazy rocker. He’s got his swag back here. I feel like he lost his confidence during the pandemic but he’s getting back again
A W E S O M E 🔫🌹🌹🔫💎💎💎💎
Beautiful. Gutted he never sang it back in 2006-2016.
"❤General"💎💎💎💎GnR "🎼🎵🎶🌹harmonize"style voice & guitar...💞🌞💞
2:53 Axl still got the deep rasp that he's not using these days.
Es verdad, aun tiene la voz, solo que creo la está guardando para la próxima gira donde probablemente saquen su próximo álbum
Te imaginas que cantara sweet child o mine con ese tono?
Well he has his trademark voice most part of the choruses. Except from the line "those unspoken feelings". His rasp is more high frequently than in the 90's, more like the 80''s actually. Think of Demon Bell..
But you're right about exactly that part. On high notes I can't make a different between current and 80's Axl. I think low frequency rasp is tearing his voice more than rasp with higher frequency. Logically, lower rasp requires longer oscillations of his vocal cords. So he's saving his voice by pushing down his falsetto to a lower register rather than pushing up his deeper nasal voice. I'm 100 he still has it though. Would love him to sing like that on studio recordings, but guess he want to be able to meet the expectations live from a studio recording..
@@Eldelachomponaahi esta la cosa hermano, olvida esa vos para esas canciones
Good song. Now just give us Monsters because it rocks!
That's right
Is that another Chinese throwaway track? I hope not cause they need to just write brand new shit in a room with duff, axl, and slash, and get Izzy in there too cause he had a lot to do with their songwriting skills.
Yes
@@manicmurph
Folks been saying that for years
I want all the old tracks AND new stuff
But you can put all that Izzy stuff to rest
He doesn't want any part of GNR and honestly he hasn't written anything worth a shit since he left
@@LN-Lifer that is true but that's why they need to get all of them working together in one room like in the old days. Can you imagine not being able to be in the same room with someone over millions of dollars? I think Axl is trying to rewrite Chinese democracy but with Duff and Slash. Hard Skool was the only decent song they've put out of the three. I just wonder if they're hanging out before or after the gigs and writing shit or are they just going back to their swanky hotel rooms with their model girlfriends? I'd like to hear all of it too. I know Duff and Slash can write good rock music. If they wouldn't put sorum back on the drums it would sound more like them to cats he takes the illusion records and did the spaghetti incident. I'm thinking songs that rock like on the first VR album but with Axl singing over it. He's been doing some of their songs live (which I'm surprised cause of axls ego..lol) and his voice fits in so nicely especially in slither. I think if Axl were to take that first VR record and put some good vocals and good piano melodies and I think it could be UYI sounding. Idk. I just wanna hear some shit already.. Some GOOD shit! 😂 But the rehashed sings that were written 30 years ago. Like are they trying to hold onto these songs cause these are the closest songs written to the illusion songs? They must be so afraid to get in a room together and jam it out. A new guns album that was done properly would be a huge world changing thing just like whether Metallica puts out their albums. It's gotta be really good though and they should scrap the 3 songs they redid and just start from scratch. I mean they been touring together again since 2017 and we only get three rehashed subs from Chinese democracy era? Like why would they even do that. Axl still thinks it's 2001 or what??
Cara é impressão minha ou essa música seria perfeita para uma intro de um filme do james bond , achei o começo bem adequado kkkk
Acho q não é impressão não... em alguma entrevista o axl ja falou sobre a vontade de compor trilha sonora para filmes... Com certeza tem um pouco disso aqui. Até pq a arquestra isolada desse musica é bem épica
He sounds great, at least better than last years.
Better ending by Slash than Hollywood Bowl👏
Tks for sharing. I like it very much
Love it! ❤ I understand completely!!! 🤘👍✌️🔥🌹💯
Oh my God... Axel is back!!
That's cool 😎 I Love this song! Thanx for sharing 💯❤💥🔥🤘
Love it ! Thats a good video. GnR Best Band Ever !❤
Cool, heavy riffs in the chorus 🤘
Great song!
Great atmosphere
`They keep takin bout how the STUDIO version has 2004 tracks.... Well, here's some 2023 ones sounding even better, live!. Merry xmas Gunners
Yo ese día no grabé porqué dije "tengo que disfrutar el momento!" Ahora me arrepiento JAJAJAJA
Anch'io feci così quando sono venuti in Italia sia Imola Firenze e Milano telefono in tasca e mi sono goduto dal primo minuto all'ultimo.
This sounds amazing love it
Happy birthday Guns N Roses
1:33 rasp😮
Essa musica é foda demais , o som é pesado a letra e pesada e real pqp Axl mandou mt nessa criação
THIS VIDEO gets better the more I see it,.... It's the closet we got to a pro shot music vid...
Este video. This Vid. Is fuckin awesome! its history.
I feel like this song should have came out in 2010
Oh dear 😢
Any idea what the lyrics are? I can’t understand what he’s saying.
You can google & find the lyrics.
Amor não se importe com as criticas Deus sabe todas as coisas.
Falar sobre o tema da infância dele, e esse som "sombrio" ficou muito foda
Holy shit Axl sounds great here!!
If by great you mean terrible then yes, he sounds "great".
@@NPK476 Actually I meant "as compared to his 'mickey mouse' era
And if you cant appreciate an aging rock star giving it his all, then why the f are you here?
@@undeadpriest Ahh gotcha on that, he's been really hit or miss, but more miss at this point. Some people know when to say when and go out with dignity, others just wanna milk it I guess.
@@undeadpriest And why exactly do I need to enjoy someone's work 100%? Lots of bands I like release shit music though an entire career. When someone likes everything without being objective that makes them a fan boy groupie enamored with celebrity.
nice
GnR are my favorite band since Appetite release (make your math...). Axl has to accept the fact his voice is gone, for whatever reason, and stop making new songs going to high. Still, when he sings first albums lyrics, he is (more or less) still in shape.
I simply can't understand how he's not able to pull off the first lines of the song without having to use falsetto. Im a bass singer but i can effortlessly reach those notes.
I was thinking exactly the same. Even more confusing is that he sings without falsetto in the same and maby higher register on other songs.Fuck, he almost reach that register by talking introducing the song. Is it some artistical reason more than technical? I, mean.. singing "daddy don't" with his deep base voice wont do it maby😂
@@nilslofgren6815that's right, even introducing the song he hits higher notes lol Axl must love that mickey voice
Same as in there was a time and many others
Still... you're not AXL... 😂
Well Axl demage his vocal cords.
He is using his clean voice after 4 troat surgery. He is saving his voice.
He is profesional singer.
He knows what to do.
Great! Now I want them to perform some Velvet Revolver songs with Axl singing them.
He has done Slither a few times. Not as good as Scott or Myles but it's on TH-cam
I'd love to see Axl do some with his lower octaves.
I'm pretty sure Guns N Roses could come back to your place. They have toured for years.
Nearly 25 years of writing and axl wrote half a song worth of lyrics.
VERY COOL! 😍
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The song is amazing so is monsters
Awesome song, BUT THE AUDIO ON *THIS* VIDEO OF IT IS TERRIBLE
This vid is my go to Gen!
4:04 actually was really really good!!
I think it sounds like a really great song, needs a slightly better rendition from Axl, but the ingredients are all there
Needs more than 1 verse.
This paper has as aim to demystify something that afflicts many fans of Guns N 'Roses. After all, what would have happened to the vocalist Axl Rose?
While Axl has a good tone (2nd baritone), it can be stated that most of the time he sang out of his vocal range, often accompanied by the use of a very dangerous vocal technique for those who do not have total control of it, the rasp. Perhaps the biggest mistake of his career was to have used excessive rasp without first studying the technique.
Many singing teachers refuse to teach rasp, because the probability of the student doing incorrectly is very large. The truth is, of course, singing tends to use the rasp through the canyon, when in fact it should be carried through the soft palate - sing with the rasp through the canyon is suicide - but it is very difficult to do it properly, it is difficult to perform the technique by means of the soft palate, so much that most of the singers who used to rasp impaired voice long term.
You can name a few rock singers who have total mastery of this technique, singers like Ronnie James Dio, for example, dominated masterfully.
At first, the rasp train is through audiology exercise called fry, which besides correcting the posture of the vocal fold, allows the practitioner gradually bring the rasp to get the soft palate, taking it out of the throat and preventing damage future ace vocal cords. Besides the fry, there are other important for those who want to learn to sing rasp sustainably exercises. Just look for a competent singing teacher and he will demystify the technique to the student.
The fact is that, to use the rasp without prior study of technique, Axl severely damaged his vocal chords. Even in 1993 shows, we could already see Axl with a much weaker than in previous years' voice.
The rasp resulted in nodules (calluses) on the vocal chords of Axl. Possibly, this was the main reason for having so many years without Axl sing live, between 1994 and 2001.
Between 1997 and 1999, he recorded most of the vocals on the live album Live Era in the studio and it was a noticeable change in his voice, but was still recognizable and the rasp was still there, overdosed, it is true, but it was there.
In 2000, he played Dead Flowers with Gilby Clarke and his voice was still recognizable, he was still enjoying the rasp.
Anyway, after this presentation with Gilby, Axl decided to undergo a surgery for the removal of these nodules. This type of surgery have as a repair, and calluses of the vocal chords leave the cleaner voice, and the rasp (strident, hoarseness) voice is dissipated briefly.
Exactly for this reason that in 2001, just one year after singing with Gilby and after the infamous surgical procedure, Axl showed up at the House of Blues and Rock in Rio, as well as throughout 2002 tour, singing with a cleaner voice, having been forbidden by doctors to use rasp, otherwise you could incur irreparable damage to your voice.
As no longer had the power the rasp gave him, Axl is forced to enhance other features such as the head voice, which has never been as consistent as the chest voice, moreover, also enhanced the use of belting.
Technically, Axl had improved, but the rasp was and is very much needed for several Guns songs since Axl dwelt fans of Guns N 'Roses to hear him sing with him.
About that time followed closely resembles that Axl was bombarded by criticism by the new way of singing, and perhaps this was the main reason for the cancellation of the 2002 tour.
Tired from criticism of his voice on tour 2001/2002, in 2004, he did another surgery, this time to give greater depth to his voice, after this procedure, its got a little more treble and deep bass, giving the false impression that his voice would have recovered the stridency of previous years.
Contrary medical advice, Axl went back to using rasp in 2006, but his voice did not externava more natural stridency as in the past. Many times, he sounded hoarse, stressed, superficial and without the scope of yore.
Many people define as Axl sang well or not because he has used rasp or not, but singing is not only used rasp. Several factors have to be analyzed, extent, projection, depth, vibrato, head voice, chest voice, belting, etc..
Returning to use rasp, it was clearly noticeable that he suffered at the shows, you could see his veins pop out of the canyon and some feared for his health, but adored the sound that his voice was producing, recalling again, vaguely true, the past. But it was not healthy, Axl never sang in a sustainable manner.
In 2010, he sang many sets well because he started to abuse the rasp, using it on every song, but I repeat, singing is not only rasp. Even with the rasp, Axl found himself out of tune even more than in 2002, when he did not use the rasp, but it remained tuned in good part, as can be seen in songs such as The Blues and Madagascar.
But truth be told, although not healthy for him, it was spectacular for the fans, the voice that echoed Axl in 2010, because maybe it was the year in which his voice was closer to the heydays. This does not mean that it was very good as such. Importantly, even in its heyday, Axl's voice has never been characterized by technology, but by the power the rasp gave him, it was by that feeling that Axl conquered fans.
Yes, it is true that many songs from Guns are, say, different and strange without rasp. But this is because Axl fans have accustomed to it, while he did not think long term.
He worked hard in 2010 to keep up the entire tour using the rasp, but as stated earlier, did not sing in a sustainable way, and it was noticeable that he used the rasp through the canyon and not the soft palate, which proves that perhaps he has not found a teacher who had the courage to teach him the rasp properly after their surgeries, for which he was subjected.
There is also evidence that, in addition to vocal chord nodules, throughout his career, Axl has also had laryngopharyngeal reflux, same problem which affected numerous vocalists such as Edu Falaschi, for example.
It is possible that with every effort made between 2006 and 2010, Axl has acquired new nodules on his vocal chords, and that because of this, it has drastically reduced the use of the rasp since 2011, having its apex in 2014, where his voice is clean most of the time during shows.
But unlike 2002, today Axl no longer have the breath that had at that time, so he can not support and sustain the notes, as he could in 2002, therefore, today his voice sounds worse than in 2002, it sounds wound up and without support.
As a result, the tendency is that the set list for the coming years brings up only songs that are his original fabric, ie, songs that have him sing only with the chest voice, songs like You Ain't The First, Mr Bronwstone, Bad Obsession, Knockin 'On Heavens Door, Don't Cry, Doule Talkin Jive, Down On The Farm, It's So Easy, So Fine, etc..
In the studio, you can see him struggling through the rasp to present a result to remember its heyday on the next albums, but even on Chinese Democracy, it is noticeable that he drastically reduced the use of the rasp. In proportion, as his voice sounds more technical, it does not sound as powerful anymore.
Axl himself acknowledged in an interview on That Metal Show, which exaggerated the recording some songs in the studio, as You Could Be Mine, for example. He said he thought: "And now? How will I sing it live without damaging my voice?" He did not think the long term, but in general it was worth it, because using his voice under the effect of rasp, even without the necessary technique to use it, the guy has spectacular songs.
But here the question begs: What Axl could do to re-submit satisfactory results in stages?
Well, first, he could slim down, giving himself more breathing space for live performances. Losing weight would mean more endurance, ie, he could improve his live performance, which would help for him to keep a good support at times when needed to achieve higher grades.
Secondly, he could study in depth the technical rasp with an expert teacher, and use it correctly and sustainably. He'd need to find a balance between all the vocal techniques, a balance between the head voice, the chest voice and rasp, and not to compromise its future. There's no need to sing with or without rasp all the time, but he needs to find a balance.
Thirdly, he could undergo a surgical procedure called Voicelift, which is responsible for the rejuvenation of the vocal chords procedure. Singers like Steven Tyler and David Coverdale have already undergone this procedure a few years ago.
So if you're rock vocalist or intend to be, and intend to use rasp while singing, study the technique carefully, take good care of your voice, avoid the cliche of drinking and smoking, be disciplined and keep up to date about human anatomy, especially in regard to the muscles of the vocal chords.
Axl sonó de putamadreee
Porque uma vadia?
I ❤ axl
Great Scott!
When is the studio version coming out?
December 8th
Where's Melissa?
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Fue la despedida perfecta de Ferrer con el error en el final de la canción, (Matt Sorum 2025!)
Correcto pésimo batería. Muy desordenado. Pero Matt en su momento discutió con Axl . Es una lástima . Da vergüenza como terminó el tema, la cara de slash como diciendo que haces!!!
Ests cancion se escucha mejor en vivo
Who is that guy on the keyboards?
why do we need a second keybordist
That's Colin, Melissa's tech
@@VideoBySuPapa aaaaaaaah va bene. ok.
Can we please have a old style GNR song
No. Chinese Democracy is as awesome as old GN'R and I'm sure whatever they come up with next time will be too.
The Guns N Roses you're looking for ended in 1995. The band simply evolved
@@goncaloandre9642No GnR songs ended when slash, duff and Izzy left. They were the musical song writers. No other people can achieve the same level of quality and composition to put out the bangers of AFD and UYI. These are the facts.
Hardskool is kinda close to the old style! Even has a cowbell on it!
Axl doesn't sound out of tune, just doesn't sound as badass as he used to.
Ele não soa como antigamente há mais de 10 anos.
Mas vocês insistem o constatar o óbvio apenas pelo prazer de falar mal dele 😅
@@arturoliveira7368 Guns n roses já era banda decadente hoje em dia
Civil war vibes
Great Axl
Anybody got the lyrics? Or even partial lyrics?
If you google the song, you can read the lyrics.
But there are'nt official.
🖤🖤🖤
❤axl
Where was Melissa?
Melissa was sick at the time.
Who was filling in for Melissa??
Um técnico de som que trabalha com a banda
Who is the guy replacing sick Melissa
Anyone why Melissa wasnt at her keyboards? Some dude was playin em. Shrug
Vai em frente Axl rose eterno jesus está na tua frente diz a missionária brasileira precisamos vencer está prova e levantar a nossa bandeira
😂 criticos de carton desde un celular cagando en su inodoro oxidado y barato. Axl Rose hace lo que quiere, ya se ganó el olimpo ok
Yesssss
He won an above average camera
The last gig of tour ❤❤
Love it. But It would be 100% better If he sing with a support band with Many voices like in 90's
Porque gritaban Melisa ? :v
Pues por que no estuvo en el concierto, creo se enfermo de neomonia
Why mel is not there?
From what I had read, Melissa is sick.
She got pneumonia
I think this is better live than the released version, not a fan of the official release
Just hate the Buckethead and Finck version didn’t come out both superior guitarists
There's some good parts, and I'm sure it'll sound different when it's not played live. This is showing that Axl still can belt out the rapy voice if he wants to. This just doesn't sound like a guns n roses song.
Isso porque você acha que o Guns parou em 93.
Well Slash ,izzy did not write guitars parts...
Gut song even strange
Times up dude 😎
The lyrics seem like they were pulled from the notebook of a teenager.
Actually the song is about axl childhood and teenage trauma with his family so I guess you are correct
@@marinadiamondz I get that, it still sounds like it was written by a teenager, not by an adult addressing past trauma
I’m not sure what you all like about this. The new OLD stuff is not that good. The songs on CD were good although I liked Brian May’s solo on CitR on them demos more than the final song.
That’s cuz this song was not written with Duff, slash and Izzy. Any song from AFD or UYI is way better than this song, this song needs a lot of work, it does not rock. I say this with love for the band because the brutal truth is better than lip service. They are capable of writing bangers, but it will take the entire band writing, not just axl.
Wasn’t this show pro-shot?
The way Slash performs The General here is clearly different from the way Robin does the solo on the General studio track. How can nobody see or hear this?
I hope you're right and that the version we got is an old demo. I really prefer the live version over that one. Live is epic, the recorded one...not so much. But unfortunately the time of the leaks seem to indicate it's the final version...
You don't even know if the studio version of the general is recorded with Robin finck.
no.... just no.... :(
Why he sing like he breathing in while he singing
The song is actually called "General Failure", but "The General" is more pop oriented resulting when Izzy and Steven are out of the picture. [Apologies for the harsh criticism]
Slash be like. Wat the hell is this shit?