Nike ZoomFly 5 REVIEW - AFTER 100 MILES! Should you buy it??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- After over 100 miles run in the Nike Zoom Fly 5.. it's time to see how it's holding up and will it be staying in my rotation?
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0:00 Introduction
0:54 Interesting features
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I love these for tempo/threshold runs, it really locks me into my 10k/HM kind of pace for 10+km at a time. The geometry just works for me, I never had anything roll me through my pace as easy as this shoes does. I have a very flat and somewhat wide midfoot, these still feel great even after a 60-90min run. The weight doesn't bother me at all, I do not notice it one bit. I'm also a 175-180lb runner. Maybe smaller runners in the 140-150lb range would see these as more cumbersome...not me, I love them.
Just purchased these to save wear on my Vaporfly's, staying away from air due to punctures in my area. These are a perfect balance of durability / training / comfort & price bracket. 👌
I just bought a pair of Zoom Fly 5 and got my first run in them yesterday. I have two pair of the Zoom Fly 3's and this is a very different shoe. The 3's definitely made me faster, but not as comfortable as the 5. I also try to stay away from heavy weight shoes, but I got the 5 on a good sale, so decided to try them. I didn't really notice the weight and they were very comfortable. As all the reviews seem to indicate, a good daily trainer.
Hi Ben! Good review as always! For long and tempo training I definetely prefer my Tempo Next and try the New Balance Supercomp trainer.
Very good comprehensive review. Helpful, thank you.
Great review as always Ben, I always trust your reviews and been waiting for this one! I'm going to pass on these and get myself some new Zoomx Invincibles, this will be my 3rd pair! They are so good to train in, even on the trails! 👍🏻
Yes.. they are a great easy and recovery run shoe! Hope you’re well Gary! 🙂
Weight is definitely important to me.
I have size 45.5 EUR and anything above 320 grams for a normal running shoe / daily trainer is going straight back into the box and getting returned. I prefer shoes which are less than 300 grams in my size and there are plenty of good options out there.
Done about 100km in mine so far and loving it. Great for my long runs, no hotspots, just sublime for keeping a long run pace. Don't notice the weight at all.
omg. I had the same idea when you said it's more like a Pegasus "pro". Spot on.
I hadn't really thought about weight until about 6 months ago when I expanded my range of trainers and bought some that were about 340g. The difference was noticeable and so I've drawn an arbitrary cut-off point at 300g for the future.
I ran my first ever marathon this year in Pegasus 39s, and thought these might be a good shoe to go for next. But I really can’t decide on them. I just seem to feel more exhausted at the end of my daily run with them… but totally agree with you on how they make you want to go faster… maybe that’s why I’m getting worn out!
Nice video. I want to see more videos about Zoom Fly 5
Got the Adistar CS, 390 grams in my US12. But rides surprisingly well. But definitely prefer lighter, like Saucony Ride 15 or Energy 4. Sub 300 grams feels good, 250 feels light, 200 feels incredible.
Would love to see you review the norda shoes! I’ve been trail running in mine and they’re pretty nice!
Thanks for a thoughtful and balanced review.
thanks for the review! how you would compare the cushioning (not confort) vs the pegasus 39? Only reason i might go for these is if they offer more
My local shoe store does not sell Nike's, still love watching this video, even though I will most probably never buy a Nike shoe 😎.
Weight is not that important to me. Depending on the use of the shoe or course. I love my light weight race shoe!!! 🏃♂️
Excellent review. This shoe went from a Princess to a Troll as time has gone on. What happend to the "training companion to the Vaporfly" . The color way is nice. But that is about it.
The Zoomfly Flyknit is my all time favourite show for training, such a good all rounder, why they changed it up, who knows!? But i tend to scour through ebay and the likes and pick them up when my size is there. Your reviews show that I am right in not moving up the range, thanks
Ben :)
Yes, this is a pretty big change. You should have some good availability on eBay for a while of the older models though!
I've just started running and moved up from 5k to 10ks around 2 times a week, my pace is pretty slow as my training is for OCR races and I'm in no rush, I've heard carbon plated shoes are not good for daily training, I do suffer from Achilles pain occasionally, but would you advise for my type of use? Thanks ben
Hi Ben, I few years ago i bought the Zoom Fly flyknit (version one? black with pink color and carbon plate). Only used them 2 times because the carbon plate was something new i never trusted it for injuries. But now found them in my back in my closet. Should i sell them of try them for daily runs?
I bought a pari of Nike Zoom Fly 4 from a friend that didn't like them, and they have really started to "grow" on me. I like them a lot as a (long) distance shoe where you really just want a good flow and stride. They do however work for higher speeds as well, but yes, maybe a bit bulky some times for really high speeds, but the feeling of "flow" is quite hard to beat by other shoes I have. It has a carbon plate, so not sure why 5 wouldn't. Never tried the top line of Nike, but many other brands. My favorite shoe so far is the Endorphin Pro series, both 1 and 2.
And btw, you probably now this by now, but Pegasus Turbo Next is launching. Haven't tried that series myself, except a pair of Pegasus 37 which I find extremely bulky and like some sort of basket-ball/clown shoe, but you mentioned you like the Turbos?
I run about 80 miles a week on the sand at my local beach. 5' 8'', 130 lbs. I have 3 pairs of New Balance Rebel v.2 that I alternate through. Most comfortable running shoes I've ever worn. Marketed as mid cushion level. But for my height and weight, it feels like max cushion. Extremely cheap at the moment. Has the best lacing system. Takes just a second to lace up and get out of. Hands down the only shoe I need at the moment since I don't enter any races. Just casual running.
There are some gnarly pics on the web of the Rebel V2 falling apart at the seams, like literally 4" tears between the mid-sole & the upper running laterally along the side of the shoe. Lots of ppl on the boards complaining about this shoe's quality control. U experienced any build quality issues w/ your pairs?
@@EricS-uf9mv I've seen those pictures also. Luckily I haven't experienced anything like that. Of the 3 pairs I have, one of them is 6 months old with well over 500 miles on it. And it feels almost like new. Granted I wear my shoes loose and I'm a mid-foot striker, so I don't tear at the seams nor do I unevenly wear out the midsole.
My running form is also similar to Timothy Cheruiyot where I mostly place my feet instead of landing on it. Meaning that when my foot hits the ground, my knee is way in front of my body instead of below my body. Compound that with my 130 lbs. weight and 11 size shoe. You can say that's a nice recipe for long lasting shoes.
@@vinhnguyen7142 Good to hear. I was tempted to pick up a pair of V2's on clearance since they're so cheap, but didn't want to chance it. I'll probably jump in when V3 is released soon.
I loved the rebel V2 but the upper mesh was gone in 200k, my brother had the same problem in 300k
@@synaone Yeah, it does seems like a fairly widespread problem which is why I held off even when pairs were selling for $60 on clearance. You know I heard an interesting comment by Ben Johnson... he was saying the Nike Streakfly was his fav DAILY trainer and basically felt like a Rebel v2. Nike's have their faults, but poor build quality is not one of them.
I’ve been a big fan of the Nike Air Zoom Tempo Next% for the fast training and Vaporfly for the race days. Kind of thought these could be the next fast-training-days but looks like another set of Tempos might be better
Hi Ben, if you had one choice of shoe for a 2 mile (3200meter) shoe for best speed, which shows would you go for ??
I really like my Zoom Fly Flyknit (Zoom fly 2?) Right now Im using them as a treadmill intervall shoe. Would I like the Zoom Fly 5?
Saw it on sale at an outlet the day before my half marathon, took the risk, and hit a PR
I’m intrigued by the folds and excess material at the bottom of the laces/above your toe box. It looks like your shoe is too big. Do you just have low-volume feet?
Can you use the pace for a given heart rate to see how efficient a shoe is working out?
how would this compare in softness and cushion compared to pegasus 39 or pegasus turbo maybe and saucony speed 2 and 3?
Can anyone tell me why my favourite shoes are my worn out pegasus 36 trails? I’m on my second pare now and I love them. I’ve had lots of different Nikes in the past but I keep going back these 🤨 just got a road going version to see how they go.
Would these be a good shoe for someone who only wants to buy one pair. I run cross country so I run in spikes but I was looking for a versatile training shoe!
I think you should try the new Saucony Tempus.
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Zoom Fly 5 or Hoka Carbon X3 for Long Marathon Tempo Stability training?
I bought the VF2 first before I bought these, and man it feels really weird. I wear US13s and weight about 195-200 lbs, and these are 360g per shoe, compared to the 260g per with the VF2, these just feel very sluggish for me. The upper is also pretty cumbersome and loose. The midsole is not as reactive as the full on zoomx but it’s way better than react (with my weight). These are more for tempo/threshold and recovery/easy runs for me, the midsole feels very dead (as well as my legs) around that 10K mark, anything faster or longer I’m still going with the VF2s.
for daily training pegasus 40 or zoom fly 5 ? which is suitable ?
Which one is good. Asics gel nimbus 25 or Nike zoom fly 5 ?
Did you notice much difference from ZoomFly 4s? I love them for every day run and hoping I can just upgrade to 5s 😅 and train as usual. Hate having to find favourite training shoes again 😭
Is it me or what? But my toes get numb after a few miles cause the toe arc is so high, blood don’t seem to circulate on your toes and they get numb and cold
Weight is really important to shoes for me but then I’ve been training in the streakflys which are around 160g in my size so anything above 250g now feels like running through mud!
Same lol. I knocked 28 seconds of my PB when I put on the streakfly’s. Long runs with my Zoom Fly 3 feels like I’m running with weights around my ankles😂
Which one is good between Streakfly and Zoom fly 5?
They are more than 110g heavier than iteration 2 of the ZomFly (named ZoomFly FlyKnit, that for me were the perfect training shoes).
Sorry for being so direct, but it looks they are loosing focus:
they are making every model MUCH HEAVIER each time they launch a new version.
Weight matters a lot, and they are starting to ignore significantly this true fact.
Did you go 1/2 or full size up in these if compared to your regular wear shoes?
Hi Ben, been waiting for your review on these shoes as I feel you do truly give the most honest opinions, I think a lot of other TH-camrs have jumped on the bandwagon of slating this shoe just to get more clicks…..always worries me when you do them shots of the shoes by the river, have you ever accidentally dropped a shoe in the river? 🤷🏻♂️😅
Only once.. but the tide was out luckily and we could go down and get it! People seem to like it, so we keep doing it 😝
Glad I’m not the only made anxious by that! 😂
Is it okay to use them for daily run?
Can anyone help me out? Im going into military and need to run 3k in 12minutes. Im searching for good shoes to learn with good form, but also for shoes to get to this level.
I think 🤔 I'm done with the heavy shoes ! Thanks 😊
Interesting review Ben. I love my Zoom Fly 3s and have only just opened the box on a new pair that I bought over a year ago, so haven't even moved to the Zoom Fly 4. So it's a shame to hear that Nike have given up on the full length carbon plate with the 5. What's your recommendation now for a lightweight (for me that's under 300g) shoe that also has a carbon plate? Presumably Nike don't have one now without spending over £200?
It's so amazing hear someone else agree to how exceptional the Zoom Fly 3's are for how perfect that carbon plate is. Literally the best pair running shoes I've ever worn since committing to running daily now on Strava being a heavy person. I've just ran up my Zoom Fly 4's and honestly. They're worse didn't feel fast nor optimal in them. I've now converted to the Alphafly next %. I've bought the next % 2's yet. But I'll say, that is been a heavy blessing. Doing my first half marathon in Copenhagen in two weeks. I must say I'm feeling very confident. Happy runnings my friend.
@@wolfganglisborg3970 My tip is when you find a shoe you love, buy a few pairs before they are discontinued. Good luck in Copenhagen!
@@michaelcatlow8069 yeah, but also don't forget that after a year the soles are getting harder. Even if the shoes are unused in the shelves
I never take much notice of weight. I need a threshold/speedwork shoe was thinking these but might go with pegs following this review. Agreed pegs turbos were the best.
im an amateur runne., i was using the nike invincible 1 and loooved them, i tried the zoomfly 5 but wooow its such a different shoe. i find it so heavy, so stiff, and the stack height is sooo high, i feel very unstable and like ill roll my ankle at any second. it also doesnt help that i run on gravel about 50% of the time and my gravel trails aren't the flattest. i bought these because im trying to be a longer distance runner, i wore them for my first half marathon for more speed?? and because of the plate??
after a long hiatus since my half, i bought the invicible 3s last week. a bit too squishy compared to the 1, it seems to absorb the energy instead of returning it like the 1s. but i dont feel like im going to completely topple over like i do in the zoomflys. i had some heelslip but the runners knot fixed it for me. so this will be my new shoe.
i wonder if weight plays into this? im only 57 kg so not much compression going on in the sole.
Can you do a review about zoom fly 4?
I could imagine this working only for very heavy runners. This one looks like the Fresh Foam More v1 from New Balance which I haven't had very pleasing experience with.
The More was a “less” for me as well. Maybe lower drop combined with mega wt?
I sent it back to Nike. I couldn’t figure out when to use them.
is the streakfly better than zoomfly 5?
Just picked these up for about £70 on a sale, seems like a good deal.
when you say you dont know where the shoe fits and then say its great for those tempo runs? its a tempo run shoe then : )
It’s a GAME CHANGER.
Hi Ben, thank you for your review. I think the shoes is a brick, it feels really bulky and heavy, i also think it does not flex much so for recovery run it is not ideal. i struggle to add it to my rotation. i like the color but that is about it. if i had to buy it again i wouldn't.
Pegasus 39 is it same?
Zoom fly 5 very mistaken, i think the weight is supposed to be heavy in order to make legs stronger so therefore when you out a light race day shoe on (vaporfly) you can then feel faster and running becomes an easier task
Exactly, zoom fly 4 , 1200 km 4 months marathon training, vaporfly next 2% race day 2:57:09 3rd rhodes island greece 2022 my first sub 3
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One day them trainers are going to fall into the water Ben 🙂
Maybe this is a good shoe for steady runs off road like in the forest🏃♂️☺️
The best running shoes ever. I love my pair. Set a PR and get a workout out of it.
do u recommend for recovery runs
@@ripalphax1104 no. I would finding something lighter. The support is awesome, but you start to feel the weight after a while.
I bought these at an outlet for 119 Canadian I have 400 miles on them great shoe for me
You have to compare this Nike Zoomfly 5 vs Adidas Adizero Boston 11 !
Weight isn't important to me in a training shoe Ben, if it feels good who cares!
6:02 It seems to drop into river.
Weight is important, but not the most important. It can be however a discriminator between 2 similar shoes. For me: drop, overall stability, intented and real purpose (trainer, racer etc), efficiency
When you can go and buy a novablast 2 for $100 or even novablast 3 for still less, it makes buying this shoe pretty pointless
You should buy the shoe you need, what feels best. To be honest you shouldn't look at price or brand.
@@renssimons297 yes BUT. There are literally hundreds of running shoes, if you have 3-4 options which are functionally the same and fit well why buy something more expensive?
@@jeremyringma even the zoom fly will go on sale eventually. But in my cases old shoes (previous or old models) don't last as long as new ones. Besides, I buy my shoes locally to support the local running store, you don't find the big sale there.
Yup waiting for the novablast 3.
@@renssimons297 i must disagree on this. In my country, the ZF5 costs about a full month of wage. I’m no kidding. You can find a novablast 2 in about half monthly wage.
Although these are my heavier shoes, I find I run faster in them with less effort. Confused 🫤 😂 Really enjoying mine
Weird because my heels are rock solid and have given me mad blisters so far
Weight hasn’t been a concern whilst purchasing long run shoes. I figured a little weight shouldn’t hurt but should serve to strengthen my leg lift muscles. Whereas, I care much more about weight in my race days shoes.
Can I expect to get 450 miles outta these?
Zoom fly or Pegasus 40
That shoe looks almost brand new, doesn't seem to be really worn down much.
I'm gonna buy the old zoom fly on clearance and skip this one. Thanks for the heads up.
Just go for the new novablast in a few weeks for a similar price! Such a better shoe
Invincible is too big at the heel, like an elephant heel. this zoomfly looks just right for me. Nice green color too.
You should consider Ediken Hakone even better.
I also never enjoyed the bulky heel of the invincibles. I'm not a heel striker but the heel kept dragging even at moderate distances. Going to give these shoes a try
So what is the number one best shoe you have ever had!?
I bet another dislike is that you get wet immediately if the ground is wet. I can't see any plastic layer at the tip around the edge.
Hi wanna asking..better zoom fly 4 or zoom fly 5??
5
@@BenParkes Which one is more stable? :)
Train in heavier, race in the lightweight shoes
Vaporfly3 or Zoomfly 5 🫠? Help me out🙆🏻♂️
Same question
The plate is carbon!
Yes or no as a marathon shoe
You could train for a run a marathon in it if you wanted to.
I wish my feet weren't so wide
I'm disappointed with these shoes. I have the Zoom Tempo, Zoom Fly 3, Pegasus 37 just for comparison. Was looking to add another shoe to my group of daily trainers. Even though it has ZoomX and carbon plate coupled with a thicker midsole. It was not as responsive or snappy as the rest of those shoes mentioned. In fact it feels rather dead. The fit has also gone more generous around the arch and forefoot areas. Therefore arch support was barely there. The tongue also keeps running to one side which I do not like. With this iteration, the outlook of these shoes looks like a boat.
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Deffo a carbon plate 👍🏽
Reebok floatride Energy X 100% better shoe its a do it all shoe and nobody reviews it why?? Oh its not Nike, Saucony, Adidas etc.
282g uk10, £105 with 30% off voucher code.
Got them for 50€, they‘re bricks. Awful for speed work, but actually quite usable for easy miles.
I won’t buy another pair though.
This shoe is nothing like nike invincible run. If you where to chose betwine ZoomFly 5 and nike invincible run 2. I would 100% go for nike invincible run 2. ZoomFly is way to heavy in my opinion. And the foam is a lot harder then what you get in nike invincible run. for me this is the worst shoe of 2022 sadly. Just for information: I had about 100km in them. I was so happy to get my hands on them, Just to get very disappointed:(
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Trying to sort it now. Thanks for bringing it to my attention and reporting it
actual weight is irrelevant. Perceived weight while running is all that matters to me, and this one feels light
The plate is carbon fiber
i have reported this scam mate
I can’t seem to find it.. maybe you reporting it has meant it’s been deleted. If you see anything else, or it is still there can you let me know.. thank you!
@@BenParkes so it wasn't you !? Ok they were convincing.. they made a teligram account with your exact name and picture
Worst shoe I have ever tried - ran 8k and returned it right away . A basketball shoe
I think the saucony endhorphin speed is a better option!!
You could do a colab with @roseanvil