An old US MARINE sniper told me that if he had a chance buying his old M40 he would buy in a heartbeat. He’s never forgotten his sniper training, he’s trained swat teams around Texas , he tried the newest sniper rifles but he says nothing compares to the M40 , I’m proud to call him a good friend,
@ Charles Doyle Totally off the rack action that isn’t blueprinted, bone stock Remington barrels, stock isn’t bedded to the action, and numerous other changes, but sure, exactly the same….
@@soonerfrac4611 - True, but please don't tell that to my 1995 off-the-rack 308 Winchester, Remington 700 SPS rifle that it is not supposed to consistently shoot 5 shot sub 1/4 inch C-T-C groups at a target 100 yards away because it was not taken apart and rebuilt as a precision long-range sniper rifle.
Does it happen? Absolutely! The Army bought what were essentially rack grade rifles for the M24 program & I’ve seen the stack dimes! (MP SRT Designated Marksman) But the M40, at least from the A2 forward were built in house by he USMC themselves at the PWS in Quantico. A good buddy of mine did the majority of his time there doing just that.
My Uncle who was in the Army during the Korean war said the exact same thing. Of course that was decades before the Army asked the Marines to setup basic guidelines to start their own Sniper school
Marines love their M-40's. Yes we do. I took my M-40A1 with me to Division Schools Camp Pendleton, Ca. in February of 1988, and lived the "STA Strong. STA Alive" life for the nest 23 years. The A3 and A5 were/are great weapons systems, but the M-40A1 holds a special place in my heart. It was basic with no frills other than it was amazingly accurate. No detectable magazine. No threaded barrel. And a fixed 10x Unertl scope. The M-40 in all of it forms is a great platform.
I can't agree more. When I first got to the fleet @6/82 our bttn still had the old Redfield 3x9. Not long after we got the new Unertyl 10x. Much better. Yep. Those were the days and the defining moment of my life. Semper Fi, brother.
I was a 8541 who went to S/S school in 82. In Dec. of that year a team of 2112s came from Quantico and replaced all our old broke ass Redfield scopes with the new Unertl patented USMC Scout Sniper scopes on our rifles. There was much rejoicing. That bunch of armorers travels around the world swapping out every scope in the Corps and were finished by Christmas. I think. I forget shit now. Don't judge me.
I was one of those that changed out hundreds of redfield scopes. I had 62 confirmed kills with the Redfield. It did not matter what the scope was. It was the asshole behind it and his spotter.
The answer to that question is a switch barrel weapon system that can be chambered for 338 Lapua, 300 Norma magnum, and 7.62 NATO. The Mk22 system can be converted in the field to any of these calibers. As great as the M40 system was, Its time for a 21st century system.
@@DenKrauten The Recon community recently stood up its own urban sniper program, The army still teaches SOTIC and the air force still sends a team to Ft Benning every year. Don't believe everything you hear. Snipers aren't going away. How they are trained an organized will fluctuate as needs change.
They changed the TO&E to remove the sniper from its place as a battalion asset. Allegedly the rifles will still be available & snipers themselves will still be around but in a different capacity. The Corps believes that small drones will be capable of doing the vast majority of scouting missions since that is their primary purpose. Many of the scout snipers will move to the Recon companies, especially if they’re already qualified. From the outside looking in (Army MP) I’m looking at the decisions being made by Comandant Berger and just flabbergasted. Some seem super obvious, but others are optimistic at best.
The M40 rifles shoot the .308 (7.62x51mm) 175 grain match bullet, 42.0 Gr of IMR-4064, Fed brass and primer. Everyone bashes the .308……but it’s got more power and kills on it than the 6.5 needsmoor..!! I got me my M40A5…. Semper USMC / Retired
I would much rather shoot the MK22. The 308W is a fine round for sure, but it can't hold a candle to the 338 norma magnum or its little brother the 300 norma magnum. USMC(RET)
@@MountaintravelerEddie I'm enjoying my retirement as well brother. When It comes to funding my own festivities, I'm shooting stuff a hole lot cheaper than the Norma magnum twins. When uncle sugar isn't footing the bill anymore, I'm still putting the tried and true 7.62 to work. I'm am however glad our younger brethren have a better precision rifle than we did. Shoot strait and often Semper Fi USMC(RET)
@@rdsii64 damn right, that’s why I started reloading…! Yeah, got to admit, the Mk-22 is much better if a rifle than the M40 variant. I still shoot the AB-39 made by federal which replaced the old draconian M118LR. Cheaper match ammo to reload….even the .300 Win Mag is cheaper. The Norma’s are $$$
@@MountaintravelerEddie If you can find some Power Pro Varmint the 175 grain match king will be your best friend. I can't find any at all. Toward the end of the month I'm doing a load work up with the new ( to me) Winchester StaBall Match with both 155's and 175's. When I find what will work well, both my Dillon 650's are going to put in some over time. I do my development on an Old Forster Coax. When I find "the load" I fire up one of my Dillons and Put up a bunch for later use.
I trained with m40A1 while active duty in Hawaii. Point of aim, point of impact! The scout sniper school was extremely challenging. Shooting that weapon without wearing the shooter vest, is a big mistake! Even wearing it, you get brushed up. I remember range control had close one road that took you to officer base housing. The range was for the M16A2 for 500 yds. So we are basically shooting beyond the range itself. While on the big island we would set up a range at the live fire range there. 1,000 yds no problem what so ever. Shooting 8" paper plates, and hitting dead center, sometime 1/2"- 3/4" from dead center! We shoot match grade smokeless powder. Moving targets were the most challenging, we used old m151 jeep being pulled with a high speed winch . The dummy targets were man sized. Our mission was to shoot base of skull hits. Needless to say, we had to repair dummy throughout day. Night shooting using night vision (nod) was not only fun, but a confidence builder! Back then we were two man teams, a spotter and shooter. I was told the weapon starts out with a Remington 700. Then the Marine gun Smith in Quantico does his magic with two part's of other weapons, performs the machining. I know they get rid of the wooden stock. All stocks were fiber glass. I know the Barrell was hand floated to perfection. We never carried the weapon by the Barrell. The weapon is heavy, and kicks, and is loud! The sniper class started with about 45 Marines. After 90 days there were 6 of us standing there! I had been eaten by bugs ants, even a snake slithered around my shooting nest! Try peeing or craping laying in the prone position! Most that failed just did not have the self discipline to be motionless, while your instructor is staring in your position with $1,000 binos. Looking for movement, weapon glare, or body identification! Reach out and touch someone! Semper Fi!
Per the Marine Corps Times "...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..." "...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..." Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
A friend of mine (a marine) trained to shoot out to 1,000 meters with incredible precision back in the 90s, and he was not put through the Scout Sniper program. The Scout Sniper program is more about fieldcraft and recon then marksmanship.
So, we're on the edge of war with two major super powers and the marines decide to halt their scout sniper program? Did they exchange it for drag queen story hour?
That's why Marine snipers are the best in the world, second to none... Semper Fi. Why in the hell did the Corps end the program... it was worth it and it worked!!!
Because a 300 Norma magnum has more than twice the range of the M40. The full up deployment kit for the Mk22 includes the ability to change calibers in the field by simply switching a barrel and bolt head. The Mk22 system can be configured to fire the 338 Lapua, the 300 Norma magnum, and the 7.62 NATO on the fly as the mission dictates. The M40 can't do that. As great as the M40 system was, its time for a 21st century system.
@@dave-d-grunt The only thing that got shut down is the old program. Something will take its place. The recon community still teaches its urban sniping course. The Army still teaches SOTIC. The guys a Quantico and Ft Benning are still working hard. Don't believe everything you hear USMC(RET)
@@dave-d-grunt Per the Marine Corps Times "...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..." "...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..." Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
The Remington 700 is probably the most simple and super effective platform for a true “ sniper”? grade rifle. It doesn’t take that much customization at all. Slap on a quality scope and it’s done. Except for extremely precise action tooling ( may be needed?) nearly all the other modifications can be done at home. The older 700’s have adjustable triggers ( Remington doesn’t want you messing with lol) which CAN BE dialed down to about whatever pounds or ounces u desire. It ain’t rocket science folks. I have several in different calibers set up for different applications. Varmint, deer etc and LR paper. All these are off the shelf models modified by me. Using home custom ammo worked up over weeks/months for each these rifles are extremely accurate. All are paper shot sub MOA. The larger calibers to 1000 yards.
Time and time again, we make the mistake of "rolling out specialised skills to front line, regular units to improve operational responses to real-world needs". And this in spite of years of evidence of the critical role these specialist units play in the operational space.
The prayer this my Rifle are words to live by as a military dependent myself growing up as a young man. My Father pounded in my head shoot like you're life depends on it, çlean your weapon like you're life depends on it, at the moment of truth don't hesitate. I've spent the last 5 Years building my Rem 700 300 win mag with a accuracy international military stock, yes I love my Rifle! As a military dependent myself I wear the title of Vietnam baby proudly. I am ceruntly dealing with a few medical issues, just got done with a battle with cancer. I am still standing as my father said they can kill you but they can't eat you because that's against the law. The 1ST Rule of Grunt 101 are all the medical issues from agent orange ? I blame no one Dad thank you for what you said an pounded in my head growing up. When I am on the Range with my 300 win I know you are with me sporting I can feel it . I hope I made you proud dad thank you sir I got watch! Stay safe everyone an watch your six an keep your powder dry these are truly dark and ugly times for are country carry on! My father's son a Vietnam baby.
The first M40 was a militarized 40-X sporting varmint not a common Rem700. These rifles are similar, but not the same. From the 40-X the M40 got its name. 😉
My m-40 a1 has the 40x Winchester bench rest blue printed action, barrel is a .885 24” ,it is stamped 7.62 nato and is in a Mc millan fiberglass camo stock , and with the right ammo in a good day it still holds sub moa at 300 yards with the aid of a old Bausch & Lomb 8-18x scope on top. Love this rifle , it’s a safe queen now .
Put thousands of rounds down range with the M 40 and M 40 A1. Absolutely always there when I needed it to be there to do its job . Hope they keep it in the inventory for a good long time to come .
I highly recommend choosing a different background track or lowering the BGM's volume considerably for the next video. The narration and editing were great, but I could barely understand what was being said due to the distracting background music.
Last year Force Recon started up their own school house when the rumors started flying around about ending the Scout Sniper pipeline. It doesn't sound as extensive unfortunately. Coffee or Die actually did a two part video on it if you want to check it out. The Marine Corps is going into a stupid direction with this current leadership...
@1:38 Has anybody happened to chime in to correct the glaringly obvious incorrect claim that the original M40A1 sniper rifle was a Remington 700 but was in fact an accurized Winchester M70 30-06. I can't remember if they were issued Schmidt & Benders or Unertl's or both but it was definitely not a Remington 700
While the Winchester M70 in 30-06 was indeed used prior to the Remington 700, The First M40 was in fact a Remington 700 and it did fire the 7.62x51 round.
The US Marines closed down its Scout Sniper (platoon) School December 15th 2023. They now have sniper training in different ways. They have went to to Mk 13 rifle for deployment. The MK 13 shoots the 300 Win Mag. I think they have learned lessons from the Ukrainian war. They may also have 338 Lapua shooters.
Per the Marine Corps Times "...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..." "...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..." Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
So I was thinking about this the other night, but wouldn’t it better to have at least 2 different sniper rifles for the marines? In my inexpert opinion, I believe that would keep the enemy guessing on one hand, or on the other, you could lull them into a false sense of safety by letting them think they are out of range from one sniper, while another one gets the drop on them from a further distance. They wouldn’t know for sure what rifle they were up against, until it was too late. Obviously for this strategy to be effective, the longer range rifle would have to be less deployed, and given to only the absolute best in the core.
The Army and Marine Corps REALLY need to get together and stop wasting money. M40 for the Marines, while it's M24 for the Army. Both of which are Remington 700 Bolt-Gun Systems chambering 7.62 NATO. The Marines' M40 will be replaced by the MK 13, while the ARMY will replace it's M24's with the M2010....AGAIN, both the MK 13 and the M2010 are Long Action Remington 700 Bolt-Gun systems, this time, in modular/tactical Chassis setups, both chambered in .300 Win Mag. I wonder what name/monikers the Navy, Space Force, State/National Guards, Air Force and Coast Guard have for their nearly identical Remington 700 based setups in 7.62 NATO and .300 Win Mag ? Situations such as THIS could almost be a MEME, if it wasn't so serious. Bureaucracy at it's best. Pretty much common play in the forces as it seems needing to only look back to the Aardvark and TomCat fiasco between the Air Force and Navy.
The Administration did WHAT to the “Scout / Sniper” in 2023. This olé Marine is gitten’ a little hard of hearing, but eliminate Scout Sniper Platoon? I’ve checked, it true. Fellow Marines, pray for the young Marines still in! No over watch, WIA & KIAs will go up in their next engagement. Old 0351, 2/7 ‘77-‘80, God Speed Marines,,,,,,, Semper Fi,,,
I don't believe my Marines has scrapped the scout Snipers platoons. We're still here and we ain't kidding either! This country was founded by the snipers and we are still in front of the infantry or providing our forces with overwatch duties.
I like the old sniper rifles myself coming from an army family I grew up shooting an m1903 Springfield moved to an m1 garand around 12 years old and my dad had a Remington model that Carlos hathcock used to love using
Do you know Col. Norm Chandler, the guy that wrote "Death From Afar"? I spent some time with him and Carlos Hathcock in King of Prussia PA. Amazing men.
Per the Marine Corps Times "...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..." "...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..." Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
NO THEY DIDN'T! Per the Marine Corps Times "...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..." "...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..." Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
Per the Marine Corps Times "...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..." "...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..." Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
Why on Earth a modern military unit would still use a bolt action rifle ... even for sniping, when new AR10 or FN SCAR are now accurate, have higher mag capacity and shoots way faster ... ???
The Marine Scout Sniper program is ended? Whut?? Seriously? The last wars could not crank out enough personnel to fullfill the task at hand and now they are abolishing it? What is the logic behind that?
After a war the first thing to go is the sniper program. People get discharged and "tribal knowledge" is lost. When a new war breaks out, they have to start over with instructors who are still in the Service. That's a bad way to operate a Military.
The Mk22 switch barrel system is a much more flexible platform. The M22 can fire the 308W, the 300 norma magnum, and the 338 norma magnum, by switching the barrel and bolt head in the field. The M40 can't be re-barreled on the fly in the field. The M40 can't keep a 300 grain bullet supersonic at 2000 yards. The M40 was the best of its time. The M40 will soon be enjoying a well deserved retirement. It will be shooting for fun and sport at the vintage sniper matches. Its deployment days are numbered and rightly so.
The M40 is a great sniper rifle, but is by no mean the best sniper rifle. The best sniper rifle is,... The one that just hit and took out the target you shot.
How's the Marine Corp I got to shoot that rival probably one of the best actor rifles in the world still the rival I had that's the history of each rifle and what it's done with my kills my rifle had 250 and no misses So yeah if I could buy my rifle from the Marine corps I'd buy it and mine's an older model cuz I got it got out in '91 so yeah but they're going to charge you normally leg cuz they fit it to you and Quantico so good luck Sergeant Johnson out 8291
I believe Carlos Hathcock used a Winchester M70 with an Unertl target scope. The Win 70 was a bolt action hunting rifle, nearly identical to the M40 Remington. Anyone who is certain otherwise please speak up.
Removing scout snipers from infantry battalions... That's one of the worst ideas I've heard. I don't believe any battalion commander who has had scout snipers assets would support that decision.
An old US MARINE sniper told me that if he had a chance buying his old M40 he would buy in a heartbeat. He’s never forgotten his sniper training, he’s trained swat teams around Texas , he tried the newest sniper rifles but he says nothing compares to the M40 , I’m proud to call him a good friend,
A Remington tactical 700 in .308 and with a bull barrel is identical. A good scope will cost more than the rifle though lol
@@bear76009 😅
@ Charles Doyle
Totally off the rack action that isn’t blueprinted, bone stock Remington barrels, stock isn’t bedded to the action, and numerous other changes, but sure, exactly the same….
@@soonerfrac4611 - True, but please don't tell that to my 1995 off-the-rack 308 Winchester, Remington 700 SPS rifle that it is not supposed to consistently shoot 5 shot sub 1/4 inch C-T-C groups at a target 100 yards away because it was not taken apart and rebuilt as a precision long-range sniper rifle.
Does it happen? Absolutely! The Army bought what were essentially rack grade rifles for the M24 program & I’ve seen the stack dimes! (MP SRT Designated Marksman) But the M40, at least from the A2 forward were built in house by he USMC themselves at the PWS in Quantico. A good buddy of mine did the majority of his time there doing just that.
A Marine with a precision rifle on the battlefield is always a force multiplier. Much respect from an Army vet.🍻
I totally agree with ur comment and Thank u for ur service.
Thanks
Agreed and respects from an AF vet .
My Uncle who was in the Army during the Korean war said the exact same thing. Of course that was decades before the Army asked the Marines to setup basic guidelines to start their own Sniper school
Marines love their M-40's. Yes we do. I took my M-40A1 with me to Division Schools Camp Pendleton, Ca. in February of 1988, and lived the "STA Strong. STA Alive" life for the nest 23 years. The A3 and A5 were/are great weapons systems, but the M-40A1 holds a special place in my heart. It was basic with no frills other than it was amazingly accurate. No detectable magazine. No threaded barrel. And a fixed 10x Unertl scope. The M-40 in all of it forms is a great platform.
8541 for life, bro. Camp Horno 3/1 and 2/1. Got out in 87.
@@LCdonkeyshow 1/4 and 3/7 29 Palms here brother. Semper Fi!
I can't agree more. When I first got to the fleet @6/82 our bttn still had the old Redfield 3x9. Not long after we got the new Unertyl 10x. Much better. Yep. Those were the days and the defining moment of my life. Semper Fi, brother.
I was a 8541 who went to S/S school in 82. In Dec. of that year a team of 2112s came from Quantico and replaced all our old broke ass Redfield scopes with the new Unertl patented USMC Scout Sniper scopes on our rifles. There was much rejoicing. That bunch of armorers travels around the world swapping out every scope in the Corps and were finished by Christmas. I think. I forget shit now. Don't judge me.
I was one of those that changed out hundreds of redfield scopes. I had 62 confirmed kills with the Redfield. It did not matter what the scope was. It was the asshole behind it and his spotter.
Why on earth would they end that program? It was SO effective!!
They are more important things like gender and queer shit 😭
The answer to that question is a switch barrel weapon system that can be chambered for 338 Lapua, 300 Norma magnum, and 7.62 NATO. The Mk22 system can be converted in the field to any of these calibers. As great as the M40 system was, Its time for a 21st century system.
@@rdsii64 They ended the program so they could switch weapons? Why not transition to the new weapon and keep training?
@@DenKrauten The Recon community recently stood up its own urban sniper program, The army still teaches SOTIC and the air force still sends a team to Ft Benning every year. Don't believe everything you hear. Snipers aren't going away. How they are trained an organized will fluctuate as needs change.
They changed the TO&E to remove the sniper from its place as a battalion asset. Allegedly the rifles will still be available & snipers themselves will still be around but in a different capacity.
The Corps believes that small drones will be capable of doing the vast majority of scouting missions since that is their primary purpose. Many of the scout snipers will move to the Recon companies, especially if they’re already qualified.
From the outside looking in (Army MP) I’m looking at the decisions being made by Comandant Berger and just flabbergasted. Some seem super obvious, but others are optimistic at best.
I own and have hunted with a 700 ADL for over 20 years love the accuracy of the gun.
The M40 rifles shoot the .308 (7.62x51mm) 175 grain match bullet, 42.0 Gr of IMR-4064, Fed brass and primer.
Everyone bashes the .308……but it’s got more power and kills on it than the 6.5 needsmoor..!!
I got me my M40A5….
Semper
USMC / Retired
I would much rather shoot the MK22. The 308W is a fine round for sure, but it can't hold a candle to the 338 norma magnum or its little brother the 300 norma magnum.
USMC(RET)
@@MountaintravelerEddie I'm enjoying my retirement as well brother. When It comes to funding my own festivities, I'm shooting stuff a hole lot cheaper than the Norma magnum twins. When uncle sugar isn't footing the bill anymore, I'm still putting the tried and true 7.62 to work. I'm am however glad our younger brethren have a better precision rifle than we did.
Shoot strait and often
Semper Fi
USMC(RET)
@@rdsii64 damn right, that’s why I started reloading…! Yeah, got to admit, the Mk-22 is much better if a rifle than the M40 variant. I still shoot the AB-39 made by federal which replaced the old draconian M118LR. Cheaper match ammo to reload….even the .300 Win Mag is cheaper. The Norma’s are $$$
@@MountaintravelerEddie If you can find some Power Pro Varmint the 175 grain match king will be your best friend. I can't find any at all. Toward the end of the month I'm doing a load work up with the new ( to me) Winchester StaBall Match with both 155's and 175's. When I find what will work well, both my Dillon 650's are going to put in some over time.
I do my development on an Old Forster Coax. When I find "the load" I fire up one of my Dillons and Put up a bunch for later use.
I trained with m40A1 while active duty in Hawaii. Point of aim, point of impact! The scout sniper school was extremely challenging. Shooting that weapon without wearing the shooter vest, is a big mistake! Even wearing it, you get brushed up. I remember range control had close one road that took you to officer base housing. The range was for the M16A2 for 500 yds. So we are basically shooting beyond the range itself. While on the big island we would set up a range at the live fire range there. 1,000 yds no problem what so ever. Shooting 8" paper plates, and hitting dead center, sometime 1/2"- 3/4" from dead center! We shoot match grade smokeless powder. Moving targets were the most challenging, we used old m151 jeep being pulled with a high speed winch . The dummy targets were man sized. Our mission was to shoot base of skull hits. Needless to say, we had to repair dummy throughout day. Night shooting using night vision (nod) was not only fun, but a confidence builder! Back then we were two man teams, a spotter and shooter. I was told the weapon starts out with a Remington 700. Then the Marine gun Smith in Quantico does his magic with two part's of other weapons, performs the machining. I know they get rid of the wooden stock. All stocks were fiber glass. I know the Barrell was hand floated to perfection. We never carried the weapon by the Barrell. The weapon is heavy, and kicks, and is loud! The sniper class started with about 45 Marines. After 90 days there were 6 of us standing there! I had been eaten by bugs ants, even a snake slithered around my shooting nest! Try peeing or craping laying in the prone position! Most that failed just did not have the self discipline to be motionless, while your instructor is staring in your position with $1,000 binos. Looking for movement, weapon glare, or body identification! Reach out and touch someone! Semper Fi!
hmm, there are no snakes in hawaii
Yup
Ended the Scout Sniper school? Wtf
Yeah, definitely a stupid decision that will be reversed in a few years, or after the next conflict
terrible decision
Per the Marine Corps Times
"...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..."
"...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..."
Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
@@rdsii64that makes more sense
@@rdsii64 yeah,this all ready ended here at camp pendleton.
School house is closed.
Marsoc needs to maintain Sniper school. Marksmanship is the bedrock of the Corps. Semper Fi.
A friend of mine (a marine) trained to shoot out to 1,000 meters with incredible precision back in the 90s, and he was not put through the Scout Sniper program. The Scout Sniper program is more about fieldcraft and recon then marksmanship.
Both MARSOC and Recon are maintaining their own separate sniper schools. Scout Sniper School is whats been dismantled.
So, we're on the edge of war with two major super powers and the marines decide to halt their scout sniper program? Did they exchange it for drag queen story hour?
Don't pretend to understand warfare more than the Commandant of the USMC lmao
@@nvm_val oh, I forgot. "Trust the experts, they're never wrong"
Corp still has snipers and their schools lol
Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Norman Hathcock II
I MET CARLOS IN 1965 OR 66. GREAT GUY, AWESOME SHOT.
Marines are the best. semper fi
Hoo-Rah!!!
That's why Marine snipers are the best in the world, second to none... Semper Fi. Why in the hell did the Corps end the program... it was worth it and it worked!!!
Because a 300 Norma magnum has more than twice the range of the M40. The full up deployment kit for the Mk22 includes the ability to change calibers in the field by simply switching a barrel and bolt head. The Mk22 system can be configured to fire the 338 Lapua, the 300 Norma magnum, and the 7.62 NATO on the fly as the mission dictates. The M40 can't do that. As great as the M40 system was, its time for a 21st century system.
@@rdsii64all of what you’ve said is true. But, there are no more snipers in the Corps! This CMC shut it all down
@@dave-d-grunt The only thing that got shut down is the old program. Something will take its place. The recon community still teaches its urban sniping course. The Army still teaches SOTIC. The guys a Quantico and Ft Benning are still working hard. Don't believe everything you hear
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Per the Marine Corps Times
"...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..."
"...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..."
Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
@@rdsii64 we’ll see.
the most dangerous thing on earth, a marine that can do math
Semper fi marines
I'm army but I love my 700 Remington. Most accurate rifle I've ever owned.
The M24 was also built on a Remington 700 action.
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The Remington 700 is probably the most simple and super effective platform for a true “ sniper”? grade rifle. It doesn’t take that much customization at all. Slap on a quality scope and it’s done. Except for extremely precise action tooling ( may be needed?) nearly all the other modifications can be done at home. The older 700’s have adjustable triggers ( Remington doesn’t want you messing with lol) which CAN BE dialed down to about whatever pounds or ounces u desire. It ain’t rocket science folks. I have several in different calibers set up for different applications. Varmint, deer etc and LR paper. All these are off the shelf models modified by me. Using home custom ammo worked up over weeks/months for each these rifles are extremely accurate. All are paper shot sub MOA. The larger calibers to 1000 yards.
Slight correction: the A3 had a hinged floorplate, the detachable magazine made it an A5.
Time and time again, we make the mistake of "rolling out specialised skills to front line, regular units to improve operational responses to real-world needs". And this in spite of years of evidence of the critical role these specialist units play in the operational space.
The prayer this my Rifle are words to live by as a military dependent myself growing up as a young man. My Father pounded in my head shoot like you're life depends on it, çlean your weapon like you're life depends on it, at the moment of truth don't hesitate. I've spent the last 5 Years building my Rem 700 300 win mag with a accuracy international military stock, yes I love my Rifle! As a military dependent myself I wear the title of Vietnam baby proudly. I am ceruntly dealing with a few medical issues, just got done with a battle with cancer. I am still standing as my father said they can kill you but they can't eat you because that's against the law. The 1ST Rule of Grunt 101 are all the medical issues from agent orange ? I blame no one Dad thank you for what you said an pounded in my head growing up. When I am on the Range with my 300 win I know you are with me sporting I can feel it . I hope I made you proud dad thank you sir I got watch! Stay safe everyone an watch your six an keep your powder dry these are truly dark and ugly times for are country carry on! My father's son a Vietnam baby.
marines at heart and mind are simple if it works fine it's a keeper
The first M40 was a militarized 40-X sporting varmint not a common Rem700. These rifles are similar, but not the same. From the 40-X the M40 got its name. 😉
My m-40 a1 has the 40x Winchester bench rest blue printed action, barrel is a .885 24” ,it is stamped 7.62 nato and is in a Mc millan fiberglass camo stock , and with the right ammo in a good day it still holds sub moa at 300 yards with the aid of a old Bausch & Lomb 8-18x scope on top. Love this rifle , it’s a safe queen now .
40 x are the custom shop match rifles . The 40x rangemaster was a long action which I have in 3006 match since 1988.
Crazy to think they discontinued the program
Put thousands of rounds down range with the M 40 and M 40 A1. Absolutely always there when I needed it to be there to do its job . Hope they keep it in the inventory for a good long time to come .
I highly recommend choosing a different background track or lowering the BGM's volume considerably for the next video. The narration and editing were great, but I could barely understand what was being said due to the distracting background music.
God I love the Marine Corps. Rah brothers.
Why? Because it worked.
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@TenaciousTrilobite is that you in the beginning xD
Mistake to end the program. I guess recon and marsoc will keep it?
Last year Force Recon started up their own school house when the rumors started flying around about ending the Scout Sniper pipeline. It doesn't sound as extensive unfortunately. Coffee or Die actually did a two part video on it if you want to check it out. The Marine Corps is going into a stupid direction with this current leadership...
first they took the their tanks then they took their machine gunners now they take their snipers……
Program will comeback as soon as another war breaks out smh
@@Krevin1775 ik but how many lifes will be lost before they relearn lessons paid and learnt in blood
@@nathan-ls8yw DoD doesn't give af
@1:38 Has anybody happened to chime in to correct the glaringly obvious incorrect claim that the original M40A1 sniper rifle was a Remington 700 but was in fact an accurized Winchester M70 30-06. I can't remember if they were issued Schmidt & Benders or Unertl's or both but it was definitely not a Remington 700
Actually we had two different caliber sniper rifles, .308 and 30-06 when I went thru sniper school in Hawaii.
The first winchesters used the huge target Unetl 8x scope. later a Redfield 3-9 and some also used the leatherwood art scope .
While the Winchester M70 in 30-06 was indeed used prior to the Remington 700, The First M40 was in fact a Remington 700 and it did fire the 7.62x51 round.
The US Marines closed down its Scout Sniper (platoon) School December 15th 2023. They now have sniper training in different ways. They have went to to Mk 13 rifle for deployment. The MK 13 shoots the 300 Win Mag. I think they have learned lessons from the Ukrainian war. They may also have 338 Lapua shooters.
Need to turn down the music in this video. It makes too much compared to the vocals.
The M40 family of rifles was lovingly built by Marines for Marines and that made the M40 family of sniper rifles the BEST!
It wasn't the rifel that killed it was the marine ,cold cold heart that killed the enemy
Too bad your background music was too loud, really wanted to hear your narration. Have a good day.
Thanks for the note. We’ll keep that in mind for the next one.
This CMC has done some things that’ll be serious set backs at the next deployment.
Per the Marine Corps Times
"...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..."
"...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..."
Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
8541 for life.
@0:24
What movie is that clip from, anyone know?
So I was thinking about this the other night, but wouldn’t it better to have at least 2 different sniper rifles for the marines?
In my inexpert opinion, I believe that would keep the enemy guessing on one hand, or on the other, you could lull them into a false sense of safety by letting them think they are out of range from one sniper, while another one gets the drop on them from a further distance.
They wouldn’t know for sure what rifle they were up against, until it was too late.
Obviously for this strategy to be effective, the longer range rifle would have to be less deployed, and given to only the absolute best in the core.
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Not once did you mention the caliber, I assume 7.62x51?
Yes. The M40 series were all chambered in 7.62 NATO.
They ended the scout sniper program?!?! WTF? 🤷♂️
I agreed to your 2nd question.
Semper Fi,,,
The Army and Marine Corps REALLY need to get together and stop wasting money. M40 for the Marines, while it's M24 for the Army. Both of which are Remington 700 Bolt-Gun Systems chambering 7.62 NATO. The Marines' M40 will be replaced by the MK 13, while the ARMY will replace it's M24's with the M2010....AGAIN, both the MK 13 and the M2010 are Long Action Remington 700 Bolt-Gun systems, this time, in modular/tactical Chassis setups, both chambered in .300 Win Mag.
I wonder what name/monikers the Navy, Space Force, State/National Guards, Air Force and Coast Guard have for their nearly identical Remington 700 based setups in 7.62 NATO and .300 Win Mag ? Situations such as THIS could almost be a MEME, if it wasn't so serious. Bureaucracy at it's best. Pretty much common play in the forces as it seems needing to only look back to the Aardvark and TomCat fiasco between the Air Force and Navy.
Oorah
Holy turn the music down a few notches dude
The Administration did WHAT to the “Scout / Sniper” in 2023. This olé Marine is gitten’ a little hard of hearing, but eliminate Scout Sniper Platoon? I’ve checked, it true.
Fellow Marines, pray for the young Marines still in! No over watch, WIA & KIAs will go up in their next engagement.
Old 0351, 2/7 ‘77-‘80, God Speed Marines,,,,,,,
Semper Fi,,,
I don't believe my Marines has scrapped the scout Snipers platoons. We're still here and we ain't kidding either! This country was founded by the snipers and we are still in front of the infantry or providing our forces with overwatch duties.
US marine sniper veteran here. You can thank me for my service below.
I like the old sniper rifles myself coming from an army family I grew up shooting an m1903 Springfield moved to an m1 garand around 12 years old and my dad had a Remington model that Carlos hathcock used to love using
To be fair , the M40 would not have needed to have the Wood removed if they taught Soldiers to maintain weapons
Do you know Col. Norm Chandler, the guy that wrote "Death From Afar"? I spent some time with him and Carlos Hathcock in King of Prussia PA. Amazing men.
Why in "2023 did MC end its scout sniper program"?
... the ... Marine .. Corps .... ended .. the ....... scout .... sniper .. program.. ??
Per the Marine Corps Times
"...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..."
"...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..."
Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
I miss my girlfriend, she was on point and accurate as hell.
And yet the Marine Corps has seen fit to do away with the Scout Sniper program.
NO THEY DIDN'T!
Per the Marine Corps Times
"...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..."
"...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..."
Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
I see they havent got the cans sorted at all.
Wait they ended the scout sniper program? Why. Pretty sure every platoon needs a sniper.
Per the Marine Corps Times
"...After fiscal year 2024, which ends in fall of that year, there won’t be any seats in the Scout Sniper Basic Course, according to the Plans, Policies and Operations email. The Marine Corps will still train snipers through the Reconnaissance Training Center and the Marine Raider Training Center, the message stated..."
"...Marine snipers will bear a new 0322 military occupational specialty, designating reconnaissance snipers, rather than 0317; 0321 is the military occupational specialty for reconnaissance Marines..."
Snipers aren't going anyway. The task and organization table is just changing. Snipers will now be in recon battalions. The new Scout platoons will be in infantry battalions.
@@rdsii64 Thank you for the clarification.
@@Mattthefarmer1You're welcome brother
I like the 30-06 better
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I don’t know why every time the armed services have an effective program, they get rid of it, only to later realize it’s value.
Yeah, deadly ! Then the new commandant berger ruined the scout sniper school. It appears the general's must be getting kick backs $from china.
Semper FI
Why on Earth a modern military unit would still use a bolt action rifle ... even for sniping, when new AR10 or FN SCAR are now accurate, have higher mag capacity and shoots way faster ... ???
Background music makes this video unwatchable.
Semper Fi! 8541
The Marine Scout Sniper program is ended? Whut?? Seriously? The last wars could not crank out enough personnel to fullfill the task at hand and now they are abolishing it? What is the logic behind that?
After a war the first thing to go is the sniper program. People get discharged and "tribal knowledge" is lost. When a new war breaks out, they have to start over with instructors who are still in the Service. That's a bad way to operate a Military.
The M40 is everything. There is nothing it cannot do.
The Mk22 switch barrel system is a much more flexible platform. The M22 can fire the 308W, the 300 norma magnum, and the 338 norma magnum, by switching the barrel and bolt head in the field. The M40 can't be re-barreled on the fly in the field.
The M40 can't keep a 300 grain bullet supersonic at 2000 yards. The M40 was the best of its time. The M40 will soon be enjoying a well deserved retirement. It will be shooting for fun and sport at the vintage sniper matches. Its deployment days are numbered and rightly so.
Prefect starched and blocked cover
2023 USMC end scout sniper program?
Wtf?
In was in the vid at the end...13 nov 2023
Ending this program for a wig and lipstick...is a VERY sad day for everyone.
The M40 is a great sniper rifle, but is by no mean the best sniper rifle. The best sniper rifle is,...
The one that just hit and took out the target you shot.
Ending the program is just plain stupid. They will pay for it in blood.
I will take my 7mm Mag over a .308 round any day
There's more to consider than sheer power . They could strip M-60 belts for emergency ammo .
How's the Marine Corp I got to shoot that rival probably one of the best actor rifles in the world still the rival I had that's the history of each rifle and what it's done with my kills my rifle had 250 and no misses So yeah if I could buy my rifle from the Marine corps I'd buy it and mine's an older model cuz I got it got out in '91 so yeah but they're going to charge you normally leg cuz they fit it to you and Quantico so good luck Sergeant Johnson out 8291
That annoying music destroys the whole video
Get rid of the obnoxious music you got playing..
Hmmmmmmmmm😂😂😂😂😂
I didn’t know that🏴☠️
Semper Fi
Only cowards become snipers.
kids are so scared stop believing lies
Nor sure, I read the book about a sniper, in Nam who had the record for dead used a Winchestet?
I believe Carlos Hathcock used a Winchester M70 with an Unertl target scope. The Win 70 was a bolt action hunting rifle, nearly identical to the M40 Remington. Anyone who is certain otherwise please speak up.
REACH OUT......AND........TOUCH SOMEONE....
Removing scout snipers from infantry battalions... That's one of the worst ideas I've heard. I don't believe any battalion commander who has had scout snipers assets would support that decision.
Isn't it Hillary Clinton that called it sneper fire???😂😂😂
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHH an that's the truth