This video will help people have good randomized games, and stop thousands of cards from being bent in the future. People are mad that I bent 40 commons as an example to achieve that. Lol.
I wouldn't say "your" shuffling technique.. I've been shuffling like this since I was a kid playing solitaire. Anyone with a gambling grandparent knows how to shuffle like this.
I have shuffled my deck over a hundred times by now, flat as a board still. And stiff as one too. I still have trouble separating the cards for cut shuffling they are so flat they stick together like one solid brick with a flat as a board surface.
Riffle shuffling doesn't even damage the cards much. When my limited deck has nothing of value in it I don't bother sleeving most of the time. It actually feels quite freeing to play with unsleeved cards, like riding your bike with no hands.
As someone who has experience in the magic (magician) community, this is just a cleaner riffle. If you ever go to a casino that doesn't have a shuffling machine, you'll see the dealers riffle like this and then add extra flourishes after to make it look good.
If you place the finger you use to press the cards closer to your thumb (which you use to pull them up), you will bend the cards even less. If you, instead of placing your thumb in the bottom part of the deck, place it on the top and do it with the top instead, the fingers will get closer and you will be able to shuffle it with minimal bending
A quick tip to anyone wondering about the randomness you achieve doing riffle shuffles (the technique and variation he showed in the video). When you do about 7 or 8 of those, your deck will be almost perfectly random (you can't get 100% randomness). You will get diminishing returns (you'll get less "more randomness") when going over 8 riffle shuffles. Source: th-cam.com/video/AxJubaijQbI/w-d-xo.html Also, this: th-cam.com/video/1jfm42Qd7Qw/w-d-xo.html
This probably works for these kinds of things. It may not be what I'm looking for but thank you for giving me more options on how to shuffle! I can't bend my cards at all for what I am doing so this won't work but thank you anyways! Still gonna give you a thumbs up!
So idk if it was literally every other video I've seen in existence or I'm just stupid, but I've been trying to riffle-shuffle with the corners *away* from me, and I happened to notice you were doing it with the corners TOWARDS you, and I just got it first try with that, so again, unsure if it was ALL OTHER VIDEOS or just me being stupid, but thank you from over 4 years in the future for fixing my awful frustration I've had for the last day or so. PS: Wasn't even for MTG cards, just a shuffle in general. I was trying with your standard Bicycle poker cards and happened to at least get SOMEWHAT of a riffle on the first attempt doing it correctly.
Just to share my experience. Wanted to test how long it would take to “master” it, so I watched a 2 hour movie whilst constantly shuffling as you have displayed, and I’m quite confident with it now. Thank you.
it's just called a riffle shuffle, and technically the corner riffle is the correct way to do it. it's how card rooms shuffle for poker decks as it exposes the least amount of info and doesn't damage the cards.
Something funny about this is that this IS a poker shuffle. The “new” technique is to minimize how much of the card is visible during a riffle shuffle, which is very important in casinos. The “poker” technique is just called a riddle shuffle, your most basic shuffle technique. Furthermore, the “cutting over and over” is called an Indian shuffle, which requires 10,000 iterations to have a perfectly randomized deck, while a poker deck requires only 7-11 riffle shuffles to be considered randomized. Just some knowledge for y’all.
I’d recommend using a casino shuffle which is basically what you showed in this video except using the corner of a card instead of the end, it’s what I do with all my card games because it minimizes the bending and it’s easier to do than a poker shuffle
Worst shuffle example #1 is what i've done my whole childhood. And what I went back to as an adult lol. I was smart enough to drop the heavy bend and bridge at least my mother taught me growing up.
I’ve been playing for around 5 years and I never use sleeves, since I won’t be selling or trading my cards. Plus a pack of dragon shields is twice the price of a booster pack.
Shuffling without sleeves?!? BLASFEMY!!! There are some unspoken rules on events like #ShowerBeforeAttending, #BringYourOwnTokens and, of course, #BringYourOwnSleeves.
"Without bending" *proceeds to bend the cards I prefer pile shuffling but it can take longer depending on the person shuffling.. I had a buddy that would always place down his cards into each pile extremely slowly and it was like nails on a chalkboard. It did however push me to shuffle my cards faster so I can usually pile shuffle my deck seven or eight times in a few minutes.
I really miss playing mtg with no sleeves rather than treating cards like delicate and priceless art. I wish wizards could come up with a business model which allowed all cards to be cheap, easily replaced, and freely tradable without the need to look up its monetary value first.
I've been bridge shuffling sleeveless cards since 94'. When people ask me why, I tell them because the value of the cards comes from playing the game not selling or trading.
As much as my prefered way is slower, if I had to play without sleeves, I would still do a six or eight pile shuffle. Means you don't ever have to bend them at all, and the amount of shuffling is significant.
Yeah pile shuffling doesn't randomize the cards, if you remember the order the cards where in and do a pile shuffle with a number divisible by 60 you can predict order of the cards pretty easily
Wow, that seems legit. If you pile shuffle and end up with no randomness, that was on purpose. Pile shuffling combined with overhand shuffling is plenty of randomness. Conversely in the magician/sleight of hand community, riffle (poker, as you call it) shuffling is the definition of fake shuffling. If done right, you can riffle a thousand times and still know where the chosen card is, because it's still on the top. For most players, pile shuffling combined with overhanding each pile and then overhanding the deck, introduces enough randomness to break up clumps of lands and creatures etc. Saying that pile shuffling "adds zero randomization" is either overly suspicious of every player, or misinformed.
Harley Martin-Farrell No, mathematically speaking, the pile shuffle adds no randomness to the deck, it just exchanges one pattern of cards with another. Like sure your lands may be broken up, but isn't it weird whenever you draw a certain creature you always draw this enchantment with it? A player may even sort their cards to give them a perfect land to spell ratio and then use a pile shuffle with a few overhands to keep that pattern. Sure it may not make a difference for casual play but it is important.
Notice the bit at the start of my comment: "If you pile shuffle and end up with no randomness, that was on purpose". If you perfectly riffle shuffle every time, which is doable, you also add no randomness. The difference is in the intent, not the method. I can sort my cards into 6 even piles and stack them on top of each other and that's still random, as long as I don't know the order of the cards in the first place. If you're combating mana weaving, it's a different story, but at that point the cards have already been tampered with.
Talking about sleeving or not sleeving cards: If I sleeve my cards with perfect size inner sleeves only, which cons will I get? Usually common sleeves deteriorate by slowly removing the painted part from the transparent one. Moreover perfect size inner sleeves are cheaper and very easy to replace if you break some of them
DarthFalcon64 That shuffle is just as useful as the one showed at 0:35. I recommend to use it just to somewhat cut the deck, but always mash (or riffle) shuffle for better randomization.
I mean, those are just cards, why are people so scared of bending a carton....if you're not a little kid playing with the cards i don't think you need to stress so much about it.
AssassinZeroLP Lots of cards are more expensive than $20 but at a draft or sealed event where sleeves aren’t used as commonly that’s about the max for a card unless it’s a masters set. Also I don’t know why you picked underground seas as the epitome of expensive magic cards lol
This video will help people have good randomized games, and stop thousands of cards from being bent in the future. People are mad that I bent 40 commons as an example to achieve that. Lol.
*Less bending. not Without bending.
Dude, thank you for shouting out my shuffling technique!
It was worth sharing :)
same.. thought everyone shuffled like this lol
@@RussDaBusta Yeah, I used to always do the "poker shuffle" until I got sleeves and I started doing this.
I wouldn't say "your" shuffling technique.. I've been shuffling like this since I was a kid playing solitaire. Anyone with a gambling grandparent knows how to shuffle like this.
"In a true bridge shuffle the cards are bent one way then the other, in theory undoing the bend." -Last words of one of my poker playing friends.
I have shuffled my deck over a hundred times by now, flat as a board still. And stiff as one too. I still have trouble separating the cards for cut shuffling they are so flat they stick together like one solid brick with a flat as a board surface.
Clearly the best shuffling method is using a leaf blower. Randomness to the max!
Bingo cage. It's the only way.
Or throw them in a laundry dryer.
I guess you could do something with decaying atoms like Schrodinger's cat
This is effectively how casino dealers shuffle decks. They don't want to bend the cards for fear of marking them.
Riffle shuffling doesn't even damage the cards much. When my limited deck has nothing of value in it I don't bother sleeving most of the time. It actually feels quite freeing to play with unsleeved cards, like riding your bike with no hands.
As someone who has experience in the magic (magician) community, this is just a cleaner riffle. If you ever go to a casino that doesn't have a shuffling machine, you'll see the dealers riffle like this and then add extra flourishes after to make it look good.
If you place the finger you use to press the cards closer to your thumb (which you use to pull them up), you will bend the cards even less. If you, instead of placing your thumb in the bottom part of the deck, place it on the top and do it with the top instead, the fingers will get closer and you will be able to shuffle it with minimal bending
A quick tip to anyone wondering about the randomness you achieve doing riffle shuffles (the technique and variation he showed in the video). When you do about 7 or 8 of those, your deck will be almost perfectly random (you can't get 100% randomness). You will get diminishing returns (you'll get less "more randomness") when going over 8 riffle shuffles.
Source: th-cam.com/video/AxJubaijQbI/w-d-xo.html
Also, this: th-cam.com/video/1jfm42Qd7Qw/w-d-xo.html
Will definitely try this. Thank you for sharing this for the unsleeved world. :)
As soon as I try to do this I lose the ability to pick up the bottom 2 cards from off the table without sliding them off to the edge
This probably works for these kinds of things. It may not be what I'm looking for but thank you for giving me more options on how to shuffle! I can't bend my cards at all for what I am doing so this won't work but thank you anyways! Still gonna give you a thumbs up!
So idk if it was literally every other video I've seen in existence or I'm just stupid, but I've been trying to riffle-shuffle with the corners *away* from me, and I happened to notice you were doing it with the corners TOWARDS you, and I just got it first try with that, so again, unsure if it was ALL OTHER VIDEOS or just me being stupid, but thank you from over 4 years in the future for fixing my awful frustration I've had for the last day or so.
PS: Wasn't even for MTG cards, just a shuffle in general. I was trying with your standard Bicycle poker cards and happened to at least get SOMEWHAT of a riffle on the first attempt doing it correctly.
Two videos didn't do it for me but your comment on this one did help! Thanks.
Just to share my experience. Wanted to test how long it would take to “master” it, so I watched a 2 hour movie whilst constantly shuffling as you have displayed, and I’m quite confident with it now. Thank you.
Thanks for this. Now I no longer worry about bending my cards or damaging them
it's just called a riffle shuffle, and technically the corner riffle is the correct way to do it. it's how card rooms shuffle for poker decks as it exposes the least amount of info and doesn't damage the cards.
Something funny about this is that this IS a poker shuffle. The “new” technique is to minimize how much of the card is visible during a riffle shuffle, which is very important in casinos. The “poker” technique is just called a riddle shuffle, your most basic shuffle technique. Furthermore, the “cutting over and over” is called an Indian shuffle, which requires 10,000 iterations to have a perfectly randomized deck, while a poker deck requires only 7-11 riffle shuffles to be considered randomized. Just some knowledge for y’all.
I needed this after buying the game night box. I'm not sleeving those cards, and pulling seven lands on turn one makes for a dull game.
thanks a lot :D
i noticed it is waaaay easier if you do it at the edge of the table especially since i just started it
I’d recommend using a casino shuffle which is basically what you showed in this video except using the corner of a card instead of the end, it’s what I do with all my card games because it minimizes the bending and it’s easier to do than a poker shuffle
GREAT video; very concise, thank you! ✌️
I do poker shuffle variation where instead of the press down to forced cards to bend, i skip the bend and let them fall down few at a time
Worst shuffle example #1 is what i've done my whole childhood. And what I went back to as an adult lol.
I was smart enough to drop the heavy bend and bridge at least my mother taught me growing up.
Looks like just bending the corner instead of the whole card...
I must say it’s strange that the title says, “without bending!” and you suggest a shuffle with bending.
Nice to see someone using a little finesse instead of brute force.
I’ve been playing for around 5 years and I never use sleeves, since I won’t be selling or trading my cards. Plus a pack of dragon shields is twice the price of a booster pack.
Can someone explain to me what a sleeve means in the context of playing cards
Wow super useful info, thanks!
I'll try to train using that one.
I know!!!! On the dominaria pre-release was a boy doing that painful shuffle, i give him a pack of sleeves
Shuffling without sleeves?!? BLASFEMY!!! There are some unspoken rules on events like #ShowerBeforeAttending, #BringYourOwnTokens and, of course, #BringYourOwnSleeves.
or just buy penny sleeves
Great stuff!
This is how I learned to shuffle from playing cribbage
I rifle shufle and then a brige
"Without bending" *proceeds to bend the cards
I prefer pile shuffling but it can take longer depending on the person shuffling.. I had a buddy that would always place down his cards into each pile extremely slowly and it was like nails on a chalkboard. It did however push me to shuffle my cards faster so I can usually pile shuffle my deck seven or eight times in a few minutes.
I really miss playing mtg with no sleeves rather than treating cards like delicate and priceless art. I wish wizards could come up with a business model which allowed all cards to be cheap, easily replaced, and freely tradable without the need to look up its monetary value first.
I was about to Yugioh duel someone, thank you
I've been bridge shuffling sleeveless cards since 94'. When people ask me why, I tell them because the value of the cards comes from playing the game not selling or trading.
You know faro shuffle ? Is awesome!
Will you make more shuffle videos?
That’s the way I’ve been trying to do it for all my life and I just can’t ducking do it
Nope idk why but I can’t do this idk maybe it’s because my cards are newer and crispier
Think this is better than mash shuffling?
Yeah can't do this no matter what I do rip
As much as my prefered way is slower, if I had to play without sleeves, I would still do a six or eight pile shuffle. Means you don't ever have to bend them at all, and the amount of shuffling is significant.
That's a common misconception! Pile shuffling adds zero randomization, since it is a pattern :)
Yeah pile shuffling doesn't randomize the cards, if you remember the order the cards where in and do a pile shuffle with a number divisible by 60 you can predict order of the cards pretty easily
Wow, that seems legit. If you pile shuffle and end up with no randomness, that was on purpose. Pile shuffling combined with overhand shuffling is plenty of randomness.
Conversely in the magician/sleight of hand community, riffle (poker, as you call it) shuffling is the definition of fake shuffling. If done right, you can riffle a thousand times and still know where the chosen card is, because it's still on the top.
For most players, pile shuffling combined with overhanding each pile and then overhanding the deck, introduces enough randomness to break up clumps of lands and creatures etc. Saying that pile shuffling "adds zero randomization" is either overly suspicious of every player, or misinformed.
Harley Martin-Farrell No, mathematically speaking, the pile shuffle adds no randomness to the deck, it just exchanges one pattern of cards with another. Like sure your lands may be broken up, but isn't it weird whenever you draw a certain creature you always draw this enchantment with it? A player may even sort their cards to give them a perfect land to spell ratio and then use a pile shuffle with a few overhands to keep that pattern. Sure it may not make a difference for casual play but it is important.
Notice the bit at the start of my comment: "If you pile shuffle and end up with no randomness, that was on purpose".
If you perfectly riffle shuffle every time, which is doable, you also add no randomness. The difference is in the intent, not the method. I can sort my cards into 6 even piles and stack them on top of each other and that's still random, as long as I don't know the order of the cards in the first place. If you're combating mana weaving, it's a different story, but at that point the cards have already been tampered with.
Talking about sleeving or not sleeving cards:
If I sleeve my cards with perfect size inner sleeves only, which cons will I get?
Usually common sleeves deteriorate by slowly removing the painted part from the transparent one.
Moreover perfect size inner sleeves are cheaper and very easy to replace if you break some of them
That's a question I also had for the longest time.
This helped a lot
Pretty sure my mom uses that shuffle on cards. She is a casino dealer...
I'm commenting on a 6 year old video to tell you to pile shuffle instead.
how to shuffle unsleeved MTG cards?
- U don't.
Total life hack
Or pile shuffle
The main issue with shuffling without sleeves isnt bending of cards. Its damaging them on the sides. Just pile shuffle.
Step 1: Sleeve your fucking cards
You should always use protection when shuffling your cards...
Your dad didn't
How to shuffle unsleeved cards: Step 1: Don't.
Don't
Just do the yugi shuffle
DarthFalcon64 That shuffle is just as useful as the one showed at 0:35. I recommend to use it just to somewhat cut the deck, but always mash (or riffle) shuffle for better randomization.
not sure what "Do The Yugi Shuffle" means, but it sure sounds like the title of a mid-2000's rap song
Lies in the title.
I mean, those are just cards, why are people so scared of bending a carton....if you're not a little kid playing with the cards i don't think you need to stress so much about it.
Sleeves are to expensive 🐡🐲🐂
Who cares? You're still gonna scratch the cards.
duhdoy
first dislike for just shuffling unsleeved cards
Kodiak Dunne You know what else is annoying as fuck, ruining $20 cards
$20? Underground sea is way more expensive
AssassinZeroLP Lots of cards are more expensive than $20 but at a draft or sealed event where sleeves aren’t used as commonly that’s about the max for a card unless it’s a masters set. Also I don’t know why you picked underground seas as the epitome of expensive magic cards lol
lol srsly?
Have you ever played any cardgame aside from tcg's?
That's the most basic shuffle in existence.
it's clearly labeled as the "new shuffle". /s
just pile shuffle seven times, duh. Problem solved.
clip your nails, thats disgusting