I could watch this for hours. Love your humor and thanks for showing us how hard sports shots are. I'll be trying a sports league for the first time, and it will be a miracle if I'll be able to figure out the weekly pattern. I suspect I'll finally get lined up, with the correct ball, and finally figure out the angles by the 9th frame in the 3rd game, lol. If I'm lucky.
we all have goals to do well and idealistically always be right at the top, but realistically we aren't that way and those who realize it and deal with it is possibly better fit for the game. What I've learned to enjoy about your channel (you especially) is your honesty and your interviews are interesting. I supscribe to several bowling vlogs, i would say my favorite is Brad and Kyle but i like all of them. All the channels have interesting content. I guess what I like most about your channel is your honesty. Keep it up
id watch your vlog!! just found your content the other day when i was looking for a review on the black venom. almost at the end of the video i realized where you were bowling. im from kronenwetter, so its always cool to see local guys on youtube doing stuff. keep up the good work.
I’d 100% watch your tournament blog!! I’ve been a huge fan of your interviews and podcasts since you started and I love all your content. I’m really enjoying your challenge videos too! Keep it up!
I was a volunteer lane monitor on the low end and saw some incredible things. It ended up being an ave of 211 to make the cut. The ball of choice from the Storm guys was a Phase II. Brandon Bonta is an incredible talent. The Keven- Simo match was the best I saw. They were both undefeated and just continued to throw haymakers at each other. Nobody is going to be at Simo twice. He's so good there were times where he looked like he was just playing around. Threw it straight, hooked the entire lane... You'd have scored better than Jimmy Allen but you wouldn't have dressed as cool as he did😂. Glad you're making Vids again Ben. I recommend them to everyone.
All my bowling life (63 years bowling) I've always had the issue of tugging my shot, what i did learn and it was a help always looking to the right of my target. I've had a few 300s and 3 800s so not to bad. but tugging has always been an issue with me. I do like your videos
I bowled on the 2024 usbc masters pattern and that one hell of a way to start bowling again in like 2 months I used my pyramid pathogen for the start and then used my iq ruby and I have bowled a high 189 182 179 I played 12 games in total I mostly bowled 150 160s sometimes 140. Since I haven't bowled in a while my spare shooting was waaaaay off barely could hit the 10 pin I tried hitting the middle arrow but I just keeps missing the arrow and it goes in the gutter I still had a great time I actually enjoy bowling more bowling on sport feels more rewarding getting strikes.😊
I just bowled nationals last week (USBC Open Championships). For me, I bowled well on the team pattern but struggled mightily on the minors pattern. Felt like I had to throw the perfect shot to strike, anything else was hopefully a convertible spare opportunity. For a few games, I had that mental block of throwing it too far right because if I did, the ball would smile at me, wave, give me the middle finger as it smacked the 3-6 in the face, hahaha. I'm right there with the fear of throwing the ball to the right on sport patterns.
Hell yeah I would watch your Vlog if you would bowl an event like the Masters and cheer for you the whole way. It's great that your center would put down that pattern. I would love to bowl on it. I want the experience, I want to learn and I want to get better. The best way to do that, is to bowl in these insane patterns and gain experience. #TenPinLife
Yeah house shot’s definitely don’t make bowlers any better unfortunately. Gotta grind to get better for sure. Hopefully your center will help you out and let you give it a shot!
Just a reminder that Simo shot 845 on this to secure the 1 seed and essentially the Masters title with the format, you just made that look superhuman wowza
On flat stuff I tend to get a little tentative and miss left. Something in my brain makes me shorten my backswing. So I just don't have time to fully line up by shoulder and arm swing towards target at top of backswing. Good to see some content on what bowling on sport shot is really like. And this is why I use my thumb for spares. Not going to be guessing where to throw the ball in any tournament.
Nice video. I enjoy the fellow amateur perspective. One of my leagues is a sport shot practice and oh man is it humbling. On the televised matchplay it looked like a straighter line / playing from right was the most successful. I know it takes work to put a video together but I wonder what your results might be like that.
The lanes in the arena are notoriously slick, so them playing way different than in my center makes a lot of sense. I’m also terrible, so controlling the mids throwing it straight is out of my depth 🤣
"Biggest fear is getting 2". Welp did that just last week on titanium =.= biggest fear is throwing it in the gutter twice trying to hit the breakpoint that's close to the gutter like wolf or cheetah
Bowled on the Masters pattern right after they got done with qualifying. After watching the pro's i could see when their ball would hook twice or slow down after hitting the 10 to 7 area it was really apparent with brighter balls like the Gem. I gotta pay attention to things like that when trying to bowl for score.
Looks like you slide in the same spot almost every time and hit your mark. Makes me think it is so incredibly touchy front to back, which you alluded to. I think most of us amateurs aren't used to twirling/hittingup/getting on the side making such a drastic different in a shot.
Biggest fear is throwing it in gutter on first ball. I rarely come close to getting a spare on second shot since I’m sweating and embarrassed to anyone that watched my first ball lol.
The most Ironic part of this statement is my son competes and we know he's going to have a good competition if his very first shot goes in the gutter. It's become a bit of an in Joke that he typically "strike spares" his second ball.
My book average is 219. I bowled a tournament recently with a similar pattern and averaged 174. Most people don't understand the difference between a house pattern and what the pros bowl on.
I'd watch your vlog if you made it to the Masters, you young man are a little more relatable to me then some of the others. However, I'd still be rooting for #TeamMotiv (sorry).
@Ten Pin Life you have the Rev rate and the more you get your axis stabilized you will see fast improvement. You have the passion for the game and that's a big plus
It would be fun to see you do this again, but with a professional ball rep helping you out with decisions. I believe that your score would go up a bit :)
I think that Simo kid might be good. I don't think Brandon Bohn moved the whole week. He threw it at 20+mph up 5 the whole time. Kyle Sherman seemed to go 6-9 just keeping it right on the edge so it didn't hook to early. But ya its crazy how easy they make these challenge patterns look. Most the time
@@TenPinLife thanks man, been battling a hand injury so I finally get a good amount of time off to rest. Hopefully in the future we can cross paths again!
Yep. The guys who were scoring had a lot of forward roll and didn't come around it much. Sean really had that forward roll going. Got to know exactly what your hand is doing at the bottom to repeat shots. The ball might look like it's on the same line but when you roll it differently every shot, that doesn't matter much. Ben's release really varies from shot to shot as to how much he comes around it. That may work on the THS but is disaster on tough patterns like this. I do agree with the comment about changing balls too often. Find a neutral hand, stay forward with it, and find a zone. Too many bowlers throw the shape of the oil hoping it will shape the shot. The real good bowlers know the shape of the ball and find the spot on the lane where that shape will work. If this makes sense to you, you understand the game. If not, you probably love the house shot... until it transitions..
@@chasbari did you miss the fact I’m fully aware of how much I suck? Why are you armchair quarterbacking a clown like me when it’s pretty clear I know I can’t do what it takes to score on shots like this. This isn’t some instructional video or me posturing how I’d even come close to making a cut against the big guys, in fact, it’s the opposite. If you think you can beat the pattern, I’d love to watch your video. Make sure you tag me.
Ok, my conclusion, scores wasn't all that great but what I took out of it was your makeable spares, unliess i missed something you were 100% with your spares and to me that is impressive. Thats enough of my blah blah blah.
@@TenPinLife - Man, bowling like those guys do has to be so hard. I have a hard enough time on a house shot, can't imagine trying to score on some of the patterns they have to play on.
@@squidly2112 I can’t imagine cutting my teeth out on tour to learn how to bowl on tour… get run over for a couple years just to hope to cash. No thanks.
@@TenPinLife -Making a living on the PBA tour had got to be a very difficult life, I would imagine. You have to really love what you are doing. The competition is very very tight and the money is not great compared to many other sports. It would be fun perhaps, but a lot of hard work for often times little to no pay. I certainly will never be a professional bowler, never will be nearly good enough for one. Those guys are really really good.
Nice video. Just wish you wouldn't have experimented so much to see what you actually would have shot. Seems like if you would have stuck with the DNA you would have figured out the late change earlier. Can't imagine you don't throw a 200 or two if you would have stick with it.
More than just that. 1, Weston’s gutters hook a ton so I never play them. 2, irritated back injury and slightly tacky approaches so no real momentum with the feet. 3, the shape around 2nd arrow wasn’t bad I just had to do it. 4. I suck.
“My repeatability is trash” lmfaoooo I love it. Another great video bro!
Thanks Corey!
I could watch this for hours. Love your humor and thanks for showing us how hard sports shots are. I'll be trying a sports league for the first time, and it will be a miracle if I'll be able to figure out the weekly pattern. I suspect I'll finally get lined up, with the correct ball, and finally figure out the angles by the 9th frame in the 3rd game, lol. If I'm lucky.
Glad you liked it bud! Sport leagues are super fun if you’re patient and can laugh at yourself so don’t take it too serious!
Bro anything u put out I’ll watch! Keep up the good work!
Thank you Josh!
we all have goals to do well and idealistically always be right at the top, but realistically we aren't that way and those who realize it and deal with it is possibly better fit for the game. What I've learned to enjoy about your channel (you especially) is your honesty and your interviews are interesting. I supscribe to several bowling vlogs, i would say my favorite is Brad and Kyle but i like all of them. All the channels have interesting content. I guess what I like most about your channel is your honesty. Keep it up
I don’t got skill, but I got honesty! I’m glad you like it Dennis!
id watch your vlog!! just found your content the other day when i was looking for a review on the black venom. almost at the end of the video i realized where you were bowling. im from kronenwetter, so its always cool to see local guys on youtube doing stuff. keep up the good work.
You had me at ass clown! Of course I’d watch your vlog! 😂 keep up the great content
Thanks bud!!
You did great, score went up each game! Thanks for the great video!
Thanks Donald!
We will watch you. Keep having fun!
I’d 100% watch your tournament blog!! I’ve been a huge fan of your interviews and podcasts since you started and I love all your content. I’m really enjoying your challenge videos too! Keep it up!
Thanks Jarred! I really appreciate that bud!
awesome of you to try it - was good to see it from an amateur's perspective
Glad you liked it Tim!
I was a volunteer lane monitor on the low end and saw some incredible things. It ended up being an ave of 211 to make the cut. The ball of choice from the Storm guys was a Phase II. Brandon Bonta is an incredible talent. The Keven- Simo match was the best I saw. They were both undefeated and just continued to throw haymakers at each other.
Nobody is going to be at Simo twice. He's so good there were times where he looked like he was just playing around. Threw it straight, hooked the entire lane...
You'd have scored better than Jimmy Allen but you wouldn't have dressed as cool as he did😂.
Glad you're making Vids again Ben. I recommend them to everyone.
I can dress to impress when I gotta… but that captain America outfit was untouchable!
Glad to be back bud. Always appreciate the kind words.
All my bowling life (63 years bowling) I've always had the issue of tugging my shot, what i did learn and it was a help always looking to the right of my target. I've had a few 300s and 3 800s so not to bad. but tugging has always been an issue with me. I do like your videos
This was awesome. You should do more of theses.
Makes you appreciate Simo shooting 845 on that! 😮
I wouldn’t have struck 34 times for 15 games. He did it in 3…
Thanks for your video's!! I'm reno bound in may hoping i can do well...lol
Good luck out there!!
@@TenPinLife thank you!
Your videos are great. Funny. Keep em coming
Thanks bud! Much appreciated!
I bowled on the 2024 usbc masters pattern and that one hell of a way to start bowling again in like 2 months I used my pyramid pathogen for the start and then used my iq ruby and I have bowled a high 189 182 179 I played 12 games in total I mostly bowled 150 160s sometimes 140. Since I haven't bowled in a while my spare shooting was waaaaay off barely could hit the 10 pin I tried hitting the middle arrow but I just keeps missing the arrow and it goes in the gutter I still had a great time I actually enjoy bowling more bowling on sport feels more rewarding getting strikes.😊
Hell yeah i would watch you! lmao i love your sense of humor and approach to the game. us amateurs need to stick together
Hear me out. An amateur bowlers group called “Team Elmer’s. We stick together”
I’d watch. I have watched a lot of your videos. Your interviews are excellent.
Thanks Duncan!
I just bowled nationals last week (USBC Open Championships). For me, I bowled well on the team pattern but struggled mightily on the minors pattern. Felt like I had to throw the perfect shot to strike, anything else was hopefully a convertible spare opportunity. For a few games, I had that mental block of throwing it too far right because if I did, the ball would smile at me, wave, give me the middle finger as it smacked the 3-6 in the face, hahaha. I'm right there with the fear of throwing the ball to the right on sport patterns.
I’ll be in Reno at the beginning of May so hopefully the minors pattern shapes up before then! I don’t like whacking the 3-6 lol
Hell yeah I would watch your Vlog if you would bowl an event like the Masters and cheer for you the whole way. It's great that your center would put down that pattern. I would love to bowl on it. I want the experience, I want to learn and I want to get better. The best way to do that, is to bowl in these insane patterns and gain experience. #TenPinLife
Yeah house shot’s definitely don’t make bowlers any better unfortunately. Gotta grind to get better for sure. Hopefully your center will help you out and let you give it a shot!
Just a reminder that Simo shot 845 on this to secure the 1 seed and essentially the Masters title with the format, you just made that look superhuman wowza
To be fair…
It was superhuman.
On flat stuff I tend to get a little tentative and miss left. Something in my brain makes me shorten my backswing. So I just don't have time to fully line up by shoulder and arm swing towards target at top of backswing.
Good to see some content on what bowling on sport shot is really like.
And this is why I use my thumb for spares. Not going to be guessing where to throw the ball in any tournament.
I used to use my thumb years ago for spares but found it works much better without for me. My missed 3-6 was just cranial flatulence.
Me myself, I like challenging patterns. Good vid. Thanks
You and I both Scott! I might score like crap, but I like the challenge!
Goodness this was very funny another great vid😂
Thanks bud!
I'd watch your vlog 😁
Thanks Chaz!
Great vid
What software do you edit on?
Great video! Is there a specific technique you use for your finger tape? Mine comes off from time to time.
Yeah Justin I do the same technique that Verity Crawley does. Shes got a few examples on her instagram.
Nice video. I enjoy the fellow amateur perspective. One of my leagues is a sport shot practice and oh man is it humbling.
On the televised matchplay it looked like a straighter line / playing from right was the most successful. I know it takes work to put a video together but I wonder what your results might be like that.
The lanes in the arena are notoriously slick, so them playing way different than in my center makes a lot of sense.
I’m also terrible, so controlling the mids throwing it straight is out of my depth 🤣
"Biggest fear is getting 2". Welp did that just last week on titanium =.= biggest fear is throwing it in the gutter twice trying to hit the breakpoint that's close to the gutter like wolf or cheetah
I went 1/ the other week on a house shot. Guess which corner pin I cleaned off the full rack.
@@TenPinLifethe 10 pin?
@@TrandafirRuby on a double no less!
Bowled on the Masters pattern right after they got done with qualifying. After watching the pro's i could see when their ball would hook twice or slow down after hitting the 10 to 7 area it was really apparent with brighter balls like the Gem. I gotta pay attention to things like that when trying to bowl for score.
But, how’d you do?
@@TenPinLife I averaged about 190 (6 games)
That’s good!
What's weird is I usually throw it pretty straight but on a flat pattern I get left quickly to try and find/create hold...
Sometimes it’s a trap, sometimes it’s the only answer.
Unfortunately I’m not sure how to tell when what’s right.
on sport pattern you need to play the friction, house is where you play the hold. that comes from PBA players and coaches i have worked with
Like you, I tend to choke it off to the left. 😂
One day I’ll learn how to float it right even when they’re tough.
But then I’ll forget how to shoot spares and it’ll be a wash.
On the bright side, u got better with each game :)
That is a plus that’s for sure!
I bowled on it for a tournament today. Shit was insane. Hard as hell
Looks like you slide in the same spot almost every time and hit your mark. Makes me think it is so incredibly touchy front to back, which you alluded to. I think most of us amateurs aren't used to twirling/hittingup/getting on the side making such a drastic different in a shot.
I was relatively consistent, but yes, touchy is the word for sure.
My biggest issue with spares especially to the right mainly the ten pin. for me the big issue is trusting the shot I know i need to make.
Trust is hard to come by without the talent to back it up! I should know!
this would be a fun pattern for Nicks summer series
Idk if fun is the word but it would be entertaining
Biggest fear is throwing it in gutter on first ball. I rarely come close to getting a spare on second shot since I’m sweating and embarrassed to anyone that watched my first ball lol.
Oh don’t make me tell the story about going ditch spare back to back to back at nationals once…
The most Ironic part of this statement is my son competes and we know he's going to have a good competition if his very first shot goes in the gutter. It's become a bit of an in Joke that he typically "strike spares" his second ball.
How do you like Knock Out Bruiser?
It’s a good ball. Nothing like WOW, but a good overall option.
I did a full review here. th-cam.com/video/yxJ9twZd-b8/w-d-xo.html
Pin down with surface? Help control the over/under.
My DNA is basically that and did well to control it but I just couldn’t do what I had to do.
At least you are consistent with your 10 pin spare my biggest issue.
Speaking of Reno - when do you bowl?
First week of May
U need a gem or the zen!!!Sherman lined up right and down!!Around 17to18 in ball speed !!!270 in match play!!!Wow
Oh I could have had 6 of the absolutely perfect ball.
I still ain’t shooting 660
I have a gem,zen, legend,Uc3,and IQ Ruby!!!And the gem is the best for the house shot !!!Great ball 👍
@@TenPinLife I no but I still like or Opinion and your larger than life all reviews
My book average is 219. I bowled a tournament recently with a similar pattern and averaged 174. Most people don't understand the difference between a house pattern and what the pros bowl on.
It’s tough to illustrate when the playing field is invisible and constantly changing.
Ill watch your stream next time
I'd watch your vlog if you made it to the Masters, you young man are a little more relatable to me then some of the others. However, I'd still be rooting for #TeamMotiv (sorry).
I brought a Motiv ball! Lol. Also, I would 100% be rooting for some of the Motiv guys too.
I’m glad to know I’m at least relatable!
@@TenPinLife You're more than that, never sell yourself short! Keep up the great work, see you at the Masters!
That's about what I bowl at Nationals. And that's if I bowl GOOD!😂
I feel ya. I popped a 720 in team in 2021 and still didn’t shoot 1800
definitely not much miss room. Entertaining video
Definitely not much miss room! Glad you liked it!
Game 3 shot 1 was perfect
That’s called luck bro. As evidenced by my complete inability to do it again.
@Ten Pin Life you have the Rev rate and the more you get your axis stabilized you will see fast improvement. You have the passion for the game and that's a big plus
Bowling will humble you. I can't tell you how many great days I have had that were directly followed by terrible days.
It would be fun to see you do this again, but with a professional ball rep helping you out with decisions. I believe that your score would go up a bit :)
Can they throw the ball for me too? Then it definitely would go up
@@TenPinLife no, but they can guide you and maby give you some tips to go forward with :)
I think that Simo kid might be good. I don't think Brandon Bohn moved the whole week. He threw it at 20+mph up 5 the whole time. Kyle Sherman seemed to go 6-9 just keeping it right on the edge so it didn't hook to early. But ya its crazy how easy they make these challenge patterns look. Most the time
845 was a ridiculous number from Simo. I couldn't do that in 5 games let alone 3.
I wish there was that much friction at the masters 😂 I would’ve had a better chance. They were SLICK
With it being 100% ICE, I believe it. But being on HPLs and on TERRAIN, there’s only so much I can do!
Hope you had fun out there Brenden!
@@TenPinLife thanks man, been battling a hand injury so I finally get a good amount of time off to rest. Hopefully in the future we can cross paths again!
@@brendensramek7440 will you be at WSOB at all?
@@TenPinLife unfortunately I won’t be, I’m gonna take the month of April off and get geared back up for the Midwest Regional Season.
@@brendensramek7440 totally get it. If they decide to bring any regionals to WI I’m sure I’ll end up around!
Dallas Leong showed us a good option during match play-straight up the twig.
Lol I would have shot 74. There would have been so many in the gray boards.
It would've been interesting to see some great gutter players on this pattern. Ozio, Mal Acosta, Duke,... Nobody plays there anymore.
@@malcolmandtillybrenner6384 Parker making the show was pretty cool tho!
You don't need much elbow. It's speed you need.
If you change your ball roll you will get better. Watch balll roll of Sean rash.
Yeah ok. Sean’s only been doing it at the highest level for 20 years. Let me get right on that
@@TenPinLife lol baby steps. I love your content it's great to see
Yep. The guys who were scoring had a lot of forward roll and didn't come around it much. Sean really had that forward roll going. Got to know exactly what your hand is doing at the bottom to repeat shots. The ball might look like it's on the same line but when you roll it differently every shot, that doesn't matter much. Ben's release really varies from shot to shot as to how much he comes around it. That may work on the THS but is disaster on tough patterns like this. I do agree with the comment about changing balls too often. Find a neutral hand, stay forward with it, and find a zone. Too many bowlers throw the shape of the oil hoping it will shape the shot. The real good bowlers know the shape of the ball and find the spot on the lane where that shape will work. If this makes sense to you, you understand the game. If not, you probably love the house shot... until it transitions..
@@chasbari did you miss the fact I’m fully aware of how much I suck? Why are you armchair quarterbacking a clown like me when it’s pretty clear I know I can’t do what it takes to score on shots like this. This isn’t some instructional video or me posturing how I’d even come close to making a cut against the big guys, in fact, it’s the opposite.
If you think you can beat the pattern, I’d love to watch your video. Make sure you tag me.
I for sure watch to see how amateurs would do
Spoiler alert: NOT WELL
@@TenPinLife and that’s ok lol
@@samiclex6816 agreed!
Ok, my conclusion, scores wasn't all that great but what I took out of it was your makeable spares, unliess i missed something you were 100% with your spares and to me that is impressive. Thats enough of my blah blah blah.
Too bad the Masters isn't played as 9-pin no-tap .. your last game would have been great!
No kidding! Dang 4-pin…
@@TenPinLife - Man, bowling like those guys do has to be so hard. I have a hard enough time on a house shot, can't imagine trying to score on some of the patterns they have to play on.
@@squidly2112 I can’t imagine cutting my teeth out on tour to learn how to bowl on tour… get run over for a couple years just to hope to cash. No thanks.
@@TenPinLife -Making a living on the PBA tour had got to be a very difficult life, I would imagine. You have to really love what you are doing. The competition is very very tight and the money is not great compared to many other sports. It would be fun perhaps, but a lot of hard work for often times little to no pay. I certainly will never be a professional bowler, never will be nearly good enough for one. Those guys are really really good.
Nice video. Just wish you wouldn't have experimented so much to see what you actually would have shot. Seems like if you would have stuck with the DNA you would have figured out the late change earlier. Can't imagine you don't throw a 200 or two if you would have stick with it.
Don’t know if you don’t try!
@TenPinLife oh, I agree with that completely. But would have been interesting to see what you score staying with the ball that gave you the best look.
Why didn't you get up the ditch?? Not part of your game I'm guessing.
More than just that. 1, Weston’s gutters hook a ton so I never play them. 2, irritated back injury and slightly tacky approaches so no real momentum with the feet. 3, the shape around 2nd arrow wasn’t bad I just had to do it.
4. I suck.
Well, Come on ! bowling on 1 lane only ? Not realistic at all.
Oh no how dare I. What a crime.
Get over it or make your own video. It’s easy being a critic. Jackass.
66yr old Lefty. On Flat patterns I pray, freak, keep it skinny and keep my expectations low. Bet you're 220+ on a THS. Nice stroke.🎳