Ignore +2 DEX or Xbox Mastery at lvl 5. That info was not corrected from 1st version of this build. There are no feats for first 7 lvls. At lvl 8 choose Sharpshooter.
@rpgdivision QUESTION Did you test this against usual GloomStalker/Thief or GloomStalker/Assassin, extra round that you get when you initiate combat, plus guaranteed crits and well offhand bonus shot with xbow to which Sharpshooter is applied makes me don't wanna spend a bonus action. Are you positive it does more damage at lvl 7 than Gloom Stalker (Ranger 3) Rogue 4 (thief for bonus action or Assassin for Assassins Alacrity (restore your action and bonus action at the start of combat.) + Assassinate: Ambush - Any successful Attack Roll against a Surprised creature is a Critical Hit. PLUS Assassins Initiative - Advantage against enemies that haven't taken a turn yet.
I would appreciate the response, because well it's your build and I don't feel like spending 3-4 hours on testing and you probably tested it.
For all you Hand Crossbow Dualist out there there is actually a good hand crossbow you can miss in act 2. It does progress Astarion's relationship quest line. Once you find Raphael he will ask you to kill someone you can do so and get the Hellfire Hand Crossbow. Its Very Rare quality, may cause burn, gives a great damage dealing spell Scorching Ray especially if you are going with Thief or Assassin Rogue and lack spells. Also gives you a +2. Pairs well with firestoker.
There's even another good one in Act 2, the Ne'er Misser. If you go to Moonlight Towers before Nightsong, before starting the siege, you can find the Zent merchant from the Goblin Camp who sells this hand crossbow. It does force damage instead of pierce AND has a free cast of Lv3 Magic Missle. Both Ne'er Misser and Hellfire have their damage spells refreshed on a short rest
Currently, Sharpshooter +10 damage is working with the off-hand crossbow attacks, but NOT getting the -5 penalty. Check the log and you’ll see the +10. At 6th level I had 4 rogue/thief and 2 warlock with the devils sight passive that lets you see thru the darkness spell. I have gale or Wyle cast darkness around me - this lets me freely drop into stealth to gain advantage on every shot when needed while keeping enemies away.That combined with sharpshooter and hex feels powerful and fun.
Cool tip about Darkness. If you want to get the spell without going lvl 3 into warlock you get it at lvl5 with races: Drow, Drow Half-Elf, and Asmodeus Tieflings
if you grab 2 levels warlock and pick up devils sight, which wont be until 8, you forgo feats, but get devil sight and with the cloak you can disengage and stand in your mist and fire freely. for sneak attacks, or have someone cast darkness on you and you go ham
You can aquire strange Conduit ring very early, it adds 1d4 psychic damage on all your attacks if you are concentrating on a spell. You also early aquire (both act 1) Caustic Band (adds 2 acid damage per attack), seems these procs hex seperately for stupid amounts of damage. You want to use the short sword "Knife of the undermountain king" as your melee weapon. The passive to reduce critical threshhold to 19 and reroll 1-2 dmg dice rols works also for your ranged weapons. The second passive from these swords is only for the melee, but the "Organ Rearranger" passive works for your ranged handcross bows. Together with Dark Justicar helmet, you now have a crit threshhold of 18-20 while you are hidden or just obsured. stand in your mist. I recommend 2 levels warlock so you can pick up Devils Sight, which means you can see through darkness and Personally I recommend Rogue at level 1 to recieve the skills you want in stealth and probably slight of hands to be useful.
You can also go Fighter Champion 3 instead of ranger, concentrate on the hex, action surge, and another point of crit bumped down, so now you crit on 17,18,19 and 20. 20% chance to crit in D&D is STUPID
If you don't want to take the dip into warlock, i think the magic initiate feat warlock will provide hex and eldritch blast. EB scales with character level as well so nice to have if you run into enemies with resistance to piercing damage. Alternatively, could take two levels of warlock to get devil's sight in order to shoot from the darkness safely.
I tried Ranger+Thief (later adding Warrior for Action Surge) with the Gloom Stalker subclass, nice to see there are so many cool options! Also found a cool hand-xbow in Act 2 that has a Power damage type instead of Piercing, might be useful against enemies resistant to Piercing damage. Anothing thing to note is that reaching Ranger 5 for an extra attack is also very important, might be even more important than grabbing Hex, which can be added after Ranger-5/Rogue-3
Ne'er Misser, from Zhentarim trader in moon tower. (If she survived act 1),. its a +1 Hand Crossbow that deals Force damage instead of physical damage, It also makes your sneak attacks do force damage, so there are no resists towards this, Unfourtenately she dont sell more then 1 if you rest and come back later. And continue through act 2 and you recieve the Hellfire crossbow which can add burning damage to your targets. Now with those 2 rings and Hex, you are applying potentially 4 different types of damage per attack. .........And hex............
This is almost exactly how I built my Astarion. Please let me know if you ever find bows that can outdamage dual wield crossbows later into the game. I think its kinda wack how much this strat is so far ahead of using normal bows and 2H crossbows that they're almost obsolete.
props for making another video. I was the previous commenter regarding sharpshooter. I saw your reply before the video was taken down. I think what i was trying to get at was two things (i) the -5 debuff on your mainhand is not really that big a deal at early levels, especially from elevation, I can still get 60-70% often with mainhand attack, but more importantly (ii) sharpshooter's +10 dmg bonus applies to your offhand attack but does not have the -5 debuff. You mentioned using sneak attack, but my point is that you shouldn't even use sneak attack at all. If you use sneak attack, you only attack once for your primary action, and you can attack once with your offhand. If you instead just attack normally, you get 2 shots (once for mainhand, once for offhand), then you can still shoot again with offhand (total 3 attacks). And because in my example above, you get an extra offhand attack if you don't use sneak attack, you get the bonus of sharpshooter without the -5 accuracy penalty while getting +10 dmg on the offhand. For example, in your clip @5:25, you use ranged sneak attack and only attack once for 20 dmg. If you had sharpshooter and just normal attacked, my char does about double that from being able to shoot twice (assuming both hit, which it often does). Can also combine this with the illiad power to make hits into crit, makes it even stronger.
ur normal ranged atk will consume ur bonus action if u have any to shoot a 2nd shot, if u dont have any bonus action and u shoot ranged atk, it'll only shoot once. clip also showed it around @0:18
I play dual hand crossbow with bard college of swords. I'm now lvl 8 and shot 5 times per turn with sharpshooter (50 dmg Just with sharpshooter). I'm working on that build cause provides more versatilite to social skills and supoort
I tried all subclasses of ranger for the dual crossbow build. At the end i came to a conclusion gloomstalker would be the best option in my opinion. I picked the feat sharpshooter then at lv7 i could easily do 25+ per shot without crit, i usually finish one enemies within 2 shots. My guy is super mobile at the frontline, i just shoot a dark smoke arrow at the group enemies then blend in, the smoke blinds enemies within which help him doge quite easy and makes up for the sharpshooter feat’s penalty. So my draw all the enemies’s attention while raining down heavy damage. I throw any accessories on him that give his weapon elemental damage, it scale crazy later in the game. The only downside with this build is not really good with big horde since the damage is too focus on one single target.
I run resiliance constitution for constitution saving throws, plus drow chest with advantage on con saves. And 18 constitution. This means I can run the Risky Ring. Together with strange conduit ring. This always gives you sneak attack once per your turn since you always have advantage on your attacks, should you have disadvantage on your attacks you attack normally. AND Knife of the Undermountain king together with Dark Justicar helmet gives you a critical threat range of 18-20. Add in you have advantage on all your attacks which means your chance to not only hit but crit is substantial considering the crit threat. At level 9: 3 rogue, 1 warlock, 5 ranger provides nice ranged damage utility, while providing you with excellent lockpicking and sneak abilities. Strong build. Almost comparable to tavern brawler monk, which still beats this damage but is melee where this is a ranged class. (6 Open Hand Monk, 3 Thief Rogue, is still the strongest level 9 in game currently due to how broken tavern brawler is)
Actualy the OP Dual Crossbow its College of Swords Bard, right now SLASHING FLOURISH (RANGED) u can target the same target, thats means double atk, so on lvl 6 u got 5 atks at 9 pick rogue 3 and get 6 atks, its broken, but maybe gona be fixed.
More than one version of a build can be OP, mate. Haven't tried Bard yet but for updated lvl 12 version I will to see which one does best out of all combinations.
Yeah, Blade bard is most likely the best class for this IF thief gets fixed. Also, that flourish bug needs to be top priority fix if it works like that. Best thing is, with the blade you don't sacrifice anything
Slashing flourish only triggers the main hand crossbow. So if its a bow it will do just the same. I dont see the point of adding the second xbow except for the bonus action (which is arguably better used for hunters mark for example). I m currently using the titan bow (strength added to dmg) which is an easy +5dmg (using the dex gloves) So my build is ranger bard 6/ranger3(gloomstalker)/fighter 3(battlemaster)
I thought about a dual hand crossbow build as rogue thief 4/fighter battle master 8 You get all 4 attacks, and also all 4 ASI. You can max your dex, get crossbow expert and sharpshooter no problem. Trip attack from fighter to get advantage on all of those sharpshooter shots is just damage through the roof
@@rpgdivision If you're willing to sacrifice ASI you can replace 1-3 levels of fighter for another class. Warlock for devil's sight + darkness combo for example, or just replace all of fighter levels with something like bard or ranger, to get spellcasting. The important thing is getting 1 extra attack and having a way to make shots with advantage
What do you think of 3 Rogue for hand crossbows(1d6+4 per bow for x2) and bonus action, 1 Old One lock for hex (1d6x2) and 2 spore drood for symbiotic entity (1d6x2) combined with Vital Conduit Boots to refresh the Temp Hit Points every time you reapply hex? Then add Caustic Band (2x2), Strange Conduit Ring (1d4x2) and Brood mother's revenge (1d6x2) Your looking at 11-34 for a single bow and 22-68 for both bows before you add an arrow of your choice.
This was one of the best explained build videos I've seen for BG3. Especially by not being overloaded with gaming terms that most casuals wouldn't understand.
I really hoped you could Pact Weapon the Xbow - I started out as Wep master for dual spec & some cool superiority die moves (disarm, fear, etc) - the latter could be used to get Advantage and sneak atk lol. Ended up Bard afterwards and its been nice since I also get offhand attribute dmg. Broodmother necklace + Astarian bite = d6 poison on each hit too!
Why not straight fighter for +2 to hit with range, sharpshooter, and x-bow expert for max power attacks? Good build though. Probably the most consistent damaging character in the game. Lucky is probably the best with straight fighter build. Eldritch knight or battle master for precision
Crossbow Expert is useless currently because there's nothing stopping you from simply dual wielding hand crossbows Negating the penalty for close range shots isn't really worth it when there's already so many ways to reposition. Gaping Wounds is nice but again why waste a feat on cross expert when Sharpshooter is just plain better.
1. I cannot believe you’re not using broodmother’s revenge as the necklace or the acid damage ring per hit from under dark. Doing this, with astarion bite, with magic weapon buff, with those items will improve your damage drastically, plus dipping your weapon into a candle you can carry throughout the game. 2. A 1d8 attack roll colossus vs gloomstalker with an entire free attack, WITH magic weapon + archer gloves + sharpshooter + acid ring + broodmothers revenge + arrow options + initiative + archery? (this is all just act 1 items). No way bro, keep that 1d8 lol, i'll take my free 50 damage first turn with initiative. 1d8 will take over 6 turns to outshine, and that assumes they are all perfect 8 rolls and you are not running any obscured crits (which of course you are), or picking from any of your arrows (which a lot of the time, of course you are). what is that 1d8 vs this build with arrow of many targets/darkness/silence/slaying? I'm at the underdark and with just the sharpshooter feat, i'm at an average of approx. 48-50 damage with 2 shots on just normal arrows.
Not every damage instance but with some it does. Check out Sparklock Wyll build. There I've used lightning charge and lightning burst for 2 separate hex procs.
Pretty sure COL Bard is better than ranger. Slashing Flourish can target the same enemy. So 8 attacks per round no haste. Only limited by how much bardic inspiration you have.
wouldn't two weapon fighting style give you your dex modifier on those off hand attacks?? my build plan is going to be rogue 3, then fighter until i get extra attack, then its about collecting as many ASIS as possible which is a lot considering its a fighter and in the end it would be 4 hand crossbow attacks, hex can be taken with a feat so no need for ranger or warlock levels unless looking to have both archery and two weapon fighting style at same time, also for burst damage you can use action surge for 6 attacks per turn, even more if you get hasted, so the damage would be 4d6(*2 with hex) + 20 (dex modifier) + 40 (sharpshooter) with just normal hand crossbows on a normal round for average of 84 damage and with haste and action surge it would be 12d6+90 with average of 168 damage without even taking sneak attack into consideration
No need when using Hand Crossbows Dunno if it's a bug or an oversight born from removing the Loading property but offhand Hand Crossbows get dex modifier added to their damage without needing TWF style.
@@TurboNemesis i noticed it when playing so switched it to archery for extra chance to hit as its always good for sharpshooter and is worth 4 points of dex in accuracy increase
@@rpgdivision ok thank you, i think thats how i have it set up right now, but with my ranger. Another qusstion, does the double nectrotic proc happen with both main hand and off hand crossbows? Or just main hand (4 total procs). R u planning on doing an update to level 12? Awesome stuff dude, I subscribed
@@coroyo70 Cheers, mate. 4 in total. 1 main hand, 2 off hand, 1 colossus slayer. Tried dipping into fire for another separate proc but it doesn't work. Yes, all builds are gonna be updated at final lvl once I get there.
wouldn't it be better to get 4 in rogue for the sharpshooter feat then respec later at a higher lvl rather than keeping it at 3 while getting a 3rd class?
After being forced to kill Karlach in my first playthrough (because the grove died and she was big mad), I now found a place for her as my dedicated javelin thrower. I just wanna say your builds are great fun, and I expect this one is no different.
@@rpgdivision I think the confusion is that we dont get to pick a feat. By changing to ranger at level 4, instead of getting the crossbow master or +2 to an ability we roll ranger, but on your breakdown for the levels it says to take one of those two.
@@R3CL4IMER This is correct, ASI's are tied to class level not character level. The leveling breakdown in the video is incorrect when it says take 2 dex or xbow master at level 5. Otherwise build seems really cool.
@@rpgdivision The extra bonus action shouldn't be usable for attack, also dual wielding them isn't supposed to be allowed either by the rules. But I hope the don't fix that, since being able make Valla in this game is too cool But the haste and thief bonus actions need to be fixed asap
@@Songfugel You need to be able to dual wield them to make up for other in-game limitations. In tabletop DND you can do main hand melee attack as an Action and use Off-hand crossbow as bonus action. BG3 does not allow you to place hand crossbow in off-hand with empty main hand. The only way to desiignate a hand crossbow in off-hand slot is to get one in main hand first. This also has a downside in the fact you need to have found a 2nd hand crossbow in your playthrough before you can use them with a bonus action.
@@Aeliasson Not true, you are trying yo explain a game design decision, by a trivial technical issue. They should just make 1h xbow offhandable only with melee weapon, very simple fix to implement. Also disqualify thief bonus action from using attack bonus actions, and make shove a main action as it should be There is nothing technically difficult about these fixes, and I am extremely surprised if these aren't fixed in the big update, since WotC is ludicrously strict about following their IP to the letter, even when it makes no sense. Also in D&D lore, those hand crossbows are famously zero damage weapons, and are used as one shot per combat only to deliver paralyzing poisons Not dual wielded repeating xbows like Valla, as this build is able to do
Ignore +2 DEX or Xbox Mastery at lvl 5. That info was not corrected from 1st version of this build. There are no feats for first 7 lvls. At lvl 8 choose Sharpshooter.
xbow mastery... xbox mastery does sound pretty cool however :D
@rpgdivision QUESTION
Did you test this against usual GloomStalker/Thief or GloomStalker/Assassin, extra round that you get when you initiate combat, plus guaranteed crits and well offhand bonus shot with xbow to which Sharpshooter is applied makes me don't wanna spend a bonus action.
Are you positive it does more damage at lvl 7 than Gloom Stalker (Ranger 3) Rogue 4 (thief for bonus action or Assassin for Assassins Alacrity (restore your action and bonus action at the start of combat.) + Assassinate: Ambush - Any successful Attack Roll against a Surprised creature is a Critical Hit. PLUS Assassins Initiative - Advantage against enemies that haven't taken a turn yet.
I would appreciate the response, because well it's your build and I don't feel like spending 3-4 hours on testing and you probably tested it.
@@AskZch Some aspects of the build are no longer valid as is due to patches released after this build
I have like 500 hours in this game and am just now finding out about dual crossbows
For all you Hand Crossbow Dualist out there there is actually a good hand crossbow you can miss in act 2. It does progress Astarion's relationship quest line. Once you find Raphael he will ask you to kill someone you can do so and get the Hellfire Hand Crossbow. Its Very Rare quality, may cause burn, gives a great damage dealing spell Scorching Ray especially if you are going with Thief or Assassin Rogue and lack spells. Also gives you a +2. Pairs well with firestoker.
There's even another good one in Act 2, the Ne'er Misser. If you go to Moonlight Towers before Nightsong, before starting the siege, you can find the Zent merchant from the Goblin Camp who sells this hand crossbow. It does force damage instead of pierce AND has a free cast of Lv3 Magic Missle.
Both Ne'er Misser and Hellfire have their damage spells refreshed on a short rest
Currently, Sharpshooter +10 damage is working with the off-hand crossbow attacks, but NOT getting the -5 penalty. Check the log and you’ll see the +10. At 6th level I had 4 rogue/thief and 2 warlock with the devils sight passive that lets you see thru the darkness spell. I have gale or Wyle cast darkness around me - this lets me freely drop into stealth to gain advantage on every shot when needed while keeping enemies away.That combined with sharpshooter and hex feels powerful and fun.
same for me
Cool tip about Darkness. If you want to get the spell without going lvl 3 into warlock you get it at lvl5 with races: Drow, Drow Half-Elf, and Asmodeus Tieflings
Sharpshooter patched
if you grab 2 levels warlock and pick up devils sight, which wont be until 8, you forgo feats, but get devil sight and with the cloak you can disengage and stand in your mist and fire freely. for sneak attacks, or have someone cast darkness on you and you go ham
You can aquire strange Conduit ring very early, it adds 1d4 psychic damage on all your attacks if you are concentrating on a spell. You also early aquire (both act 1) Caustic Band (adds 2 acid damage per attack), seems these procs hex seperately for stupid amounts of damage.
You want to use the short sword "Knife of the undermountain king" as your melee weapon. The passive to reduce critical threshhold to 19 and reroll 1-2 dmg dice rols works also for your ranged weapons. The second passive from these swords is only for the melee, but the "Organ Rearranger" passive works for your ranged handcross bows. Together with Dark Justicar helmet, you now have a crit threshhold of 18-20 while you are hidden or just obsured. stand in your mist. I recommend 2 levels warlock so you can pick up Devils Sight, which means you can see through darkness and
Personally I recommend Rogue at level 1 to recieve the skills you want in stealth and probably slight of hands to be useful.
You can also go Fighter Champion 3 instead of ranger, concentrate on the hex, action surge, and another point of crit bumped down, so now you crit on 17,18,19 and 20. 20% chance to crit in D&D is STUPID
If you don't want to take the dip into warlock, i think the magic initiate feat warlock will provide hex and eldritch blast. EB scales with character level as well so nice to have if you run into enemies with resistance to piercing damage. Alternatively, could take two levels of warlock to get devil's sight in order to shoot from the darkness safely.
Granted you can just build a spell packmule to do all that while you focus on lighting up the enemy
I've been having so much fun with this build ty!!
I tried Ranger+Thief (later adding Warrior for Action Surge) with the Gloom Stalker subclass, nice to see there are so many cool options!
Also found a cool hand-xbow in Act 2 that has a Power damage type instead of Piercing, might be useful against enemies resistant to Piercing damage.
Anothing thing to note is that reaching Ranger 5 for an extra attack is also very important, might be even more important than grabbing Hex, which can be added after Ranger-5/Rogue-3
assassin - 4, gloomstalker - 5, warpriest - 1. fighter - 2 - i belive this is max damage rogue-like build in bg3
Ne'er Misser, from Zhentarim trader in moon tower. (If she survived act 1),. its a +1 Hand Crossbow that deals Force damage instead of physical damage, It also makes your sneak attacks do force damage, so there are no resists towards this, Unfourtenately she dont sell more then 1 if you rest and come back later.
And continue through act 2 and you recieve the Hellfire crossbow which can add burning damage to your targets. Now with those 2 rings and Hex, you are applying potentially 4 different types of damage per attack. .........And hex............
@@bighorse9734how to make sure she survives act 1? The merchant I mean. I killed the three goblin leaders and paid no attention to her.
@@joydipnayek8070as long as you don’t straight up kill her she will show up in moonrise tower in act 2 no matter who you sided with in act 1
FYI, sneak attack can proc on off hand, to do do you must attack with off hand first while the conditions for sneak attack are met
Am I missing something here? How do you get a feat at level 5 (3 Rogue, 1 Warlock, 1 Ranger)? Isn't it only possible at level 4 of a single class?
I know you can get an extra feat as a fighter at level 6
This is almost exactly how I built my Astarion. Please let me know if you ever find bows that can outdamage dual wield crossbows later into the game. I think its kinda wack how much this strat is so far ahead of using normal bows and 2H crossbows that they're almost obsolete.
props for making another video. I was the previous commenter regarding sharpshooter. I saw your reply before the video was taken down. I think what i was trying to get at was two things (i) the -5 debuff on your mainhand is not really that big a deal at early levels, especially from elevation, I can still get 60-70% often with mainhand attack, but more importantly (ii) sharpshooter's +10 dmg bonus applies to your offhand attack but does not have the -5 debuff. You mentioned using sneak attack, but my point is that you shouldn't even use sneak attack at all. If you use sneak attack, you only attack once for your primary action, and you can attack once with your offhand. If you instead just attack normally, you get 2 shots (once for mainhand, once for offhand), then you can still shoot again with offhand (total 3 attacks). And because in my example above, you get an extra offhand attack if you don't use sneak attack, you get the bonus of sharpshooter without the -5 accuracy penalty while getting +10 dmg on the offhand. For example, in your clip @5:25, you use ranged sneak attack and only attack once for 20 dmg. If you had sharpshooter and just normal attacked, my char does about double that from being able to shoot twice (assuming both hit, which it often does). Can also combine this with the illiad power to make hits into crit, makes it even stronger.
ur normal ranged atk will consume ur bonus action if u have any to shoot a 2nd shot, if u dont have any bonus action and u shoot ranged atk, it'll only shoot once. clip also showed it around @0:18
There's also a ring that gives +2 poison damage on weapon attacks that's pretty good.
I see a ring that gives +2 acid damage. Is there a poison variant also?
@ShadowofProvidence No, you're right, it's acid.
I play dual hand crossbow with bard college of swords. I'm now lvl 8 and shot 5 times per turn with sharpshooter (50 dmg Just with sharpshooter). I'm working on that build cause provides more versatilite to social skills and supoort
Pure bard or did you multiclass at all?
I tried all subclasses of ranger for the dual crossbow build. At the end i came to a conclusion gloomstalker would be the best option in my opinion. I picked the feat sharpshooter then at lv7 i could easily do 25+ per shot without crit, i usually finish one enemies within 2 shots. My guy is super mobile at the frontline, i just shoot a dark smoke arrow at the group enemies then blend in, the smoke blinds enemies within which help him doge quite easy and makes up for the sharpshooter feat’s penalty. So my draw all the enemies’s attention while raining down heavy damage. I throw any accessories on him that give his weapon elemental damage, it scale crazy later in the game. The only downside with this build is not really good with big horde since the damage is too focus on one single target.
Exactly what I looking for
I run resiliance constitution for constitution saving throws, plus drow chest with advantage on con saves. And 18 constitution. This means I can run the Risky Ring. Together with strange conduit ring. This always gives you sneak attack once per your turn since you always have advantage on your attacks, should you have disadvantage on your attacks you attack normally.
AND Knife of the Undermountain king together with Dark Justicar helmet gives you a critical threat range of 18-20. Add in you have advantage on all your attacks which means your chance to not only hit but crit is substantial considering the crit threat. At level 9: 3 rogue, 1 warlock, 5 ranger provides nice ranged damage utility, while providing you with excellent lockpicking and sneak abilities. Strong build. Almost comparable to tavern brawler monk, which still beats this damage but is melee where this is a ranged class. (6 Open Hand Monk, 3 Thief Rogue, is still the strongest level 9 in game currently due to how broken tavern brawler is)
Actualy the OP Dual Crossbow its College of Swords Bard, right now SLASHING FLOURISH (RANGED) u can target the same target, thats means double atk, so on lvl 6 u got 5 atks at 9 pick rogue 3 and get 6 atks, its broken, but maybe gona be fixed.
More than one version of a build can be OP, mate. Haven't tried Bard yet but for updated lvl 12 version I will to see which one does best out of all combinations.
Yeah, Blade bard is most likely the best class for this IF thief gets fixed. Also, that flourish bug needs to be top priority fix if it works like that. Best thing is, with the blade you don't sacrifice anything
Slashing flourish only triggers the main hand crossbow. So if its a bow it will do just the same. I dont see the point of adding the second xbow except for the bonus action (which is arguably better used for hunters mark for example). I m currently using the titan bow (strength added to dmg) which is an easy +5dmg (using the dex gloves)
So my build is ranger bard 6/ranger3(gloomstalker)/fighter 3(battlemaster)
Nice, I didnt know. Do u have a full build link for me?
@@tristanprotokoll i dont have a link, but 2 Fighter 10 College of Swords or 9 CS 3 rogue do the job
I thought about a dual hand crossbow build as rogue thief 4/fighter battle master 8
You get all 4 attacks, and also all 4 ASI. You can max your dex, get crossbow expert and sharpshooter no problem. Trip attack from fighter to get advantage on all of those sharpshooter shots is just damage through the roof
Sounds great. Gonna test it against bunch of different versions once I hit 12 and upload the best one.
@@rpgdivision If you're willing to sacrifice ASI you can replace 1-3 levels of fighter for another class. Warlock for devil's sight + darkness combo for example, or just replace all of fighter levels with something like bard or ranger, to get spellcasting.
The important thing is getting 1 extra attack and having a way to make shots with advantage
What do you think of 3 Rogue for hand crossbows(1d6+4 per bow for x2) and bonus action, 1 Old One lock for hex (1d6x2) and 2 spore drood for symbiotic entity (1d6x2) combined with Vital Conduit Boots to refresh the Temp Hit Points every time you reapply hex? Then add Caustic Band (2x2), Strange Conduit Ring (1d4x2) and Brood mother's revenge (1d6x2)
Your looking at 11-34 for a single bow and 22-68 for both bows before you add an arrow of your choice.
This was one of the best explained build videos I've seen for BG3. Especially by not being overloaded with gaming terms that most casuals wouldn't understand.
i love these builds!!! good shit
I really hoped you could Pact Weapon the Xbow - I started out as Wep master for dual spec & some cool superiority die moves (disarm, fear, etc) - the latter could be used to get Advantage and sneak atk lol. Ended up Bard afterwards and its been nice since I also get offhand attribute dmg. Broodmother necklace + Astarian bite = d6 poison on each hit too!
Why not straight fighter for +2 to hit with range, sharpshooter, and x-bow expert for max power attacks? Good build though. Probably the most consistent damaging character in the game. Lucky is probably the best with straight fighter build. Eldritch knight or battle master for precision
Crossbow Expert is useless currently because there's nothing stopping you from simply dual wielding hand crossbows
Negating the penalty for close range shots isn't really worth it when there's already so many ways to reposition. Gaping Wounds is nice but again why waste a feat on cross expert when Sharpshooter is just plain better.
Nice, maybe I'll try something like this with Astarion later in the game.
I am considering using this type of build but with Swords Bard instead of Ranger for the ranged slashing flurry with dual handbows
im working on leveling something similar. 3 rogue/6 bard/2 warrior/1 warlock.
1. I cannot believe you’re not using broodmother’s revenge as the necklace or the acid damage ring per hit from under dark. Doing this, with astarion bite, with magic weapon buff, with those items will improve your damage drastically, plus dipping your weapon into a candle you can carry throughout the game.
2. A 1d8 attack roll colossus vs gloomstalker with an entire free attack, WITH magic weapon + archer gloves + sharpshooter + acid ring + broodmothers revenge + arrow options + initiative + archery? (this is all just act 1 items).
No way bro, keep that 1d8 lol, i'll take my free 50 damage first turn with initiative. 1d8 will take over 6 turns to outshine, and that assumes they are all perfect 8 rolls and you are not running any obscured crits (which of course you are), or picking from any of your arrows (which a lot of the time, of course you are). what is that 1d8 vs this build with arrow of many targets/darkness/silence/slaying? I'm at the underdark and with just the sharpshooter feat, i'm at an average of approx. 48-50 damage with 2 shots on just normal arrows.
I just sidelined Astarion in favor of Gale. I guess I'll have to bring him back now 😬
Does hex proc with any damage instance? Wouldn't that open hand monk 8, thief 3, warlock 1 really op too with 12 hex procs in turn?
Not every damage instance but with some it does. Check out Sparklock Wyll build. There I've used lightning charge and lightning burst for 2 separate hex procs.
Pretty sure COL Bard is better than ranger. Slashing Flourish can target the same enemy. So 8 attacks per round no haste. Only limited by how much bardic inspiration you have.
wouldn't two weapon fighting style give you your dex modifier on those off hand attacks?? my build plan is going to be rogue 3, then fighter until i get extra attack, then its about collecting as many ASIS as possible which is a lot considering its a fighter and in the end it would be 4 hand crossbow attacks, hex can be taken with a feat so no need for ranger or warlock levels unless looking to have both archery and two weapon fighting style at same time, also for burst damage you can use action surge for 6 attacks per turn, even more if you get hasted, so the damage would be 4d6(*2 with hex) + 20 (dex modifier) + 40 (sharpshooter) with just normal hand crossbows on a normal round for average of 84 damage and with haste and action surge it would be 12d6+90 with average of 168 damage without even taking sneak attack into consideration
No need when using Hand Crossbows
Dunno if it's a bug or an oversight born from removing the Loading property but offhand Hand Crossbows get dex modifier added to their damage without needing TWF style.
@@TurboNemesis i noticed it when playing so switched it to archery for extra chance to hit as its always good for sharpshooter and is worth 4 points of dex in accuracy increase
what about after lvl 7?
thanks for the tips!
Rogue 4 > Fighter 6 > Rogue 6. Is my current build for Astarion. Sharpshooter, ASI, ASI.
U forgot the caustic g band, +2 acid dmg per atack
Hey I'm currently in level 4, what should I prioritize? Colossal slayer? Or thief?
Whatever class you started at should be leveled to rank 3 first so setup should look like either ranger 3/warlock 1 or thief 3/warlock 1.
@@rpgdivision ok thank you, i think thats how i have it set up right now, but with my ranger. Another qusstion, does the double nectrotic proc happen with both main hand and off hand crossbows? Or just main hand (4 total procs). R u planning on doing an update to level 12?
Awesome stuff dude, I subscribed
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Cheers, mate. 4 in total. 1 main hand, 2 off hand, 1 colossus slayer. Tried dipping into fire for another separate proc but it doesn't work.
Yes, all builds are gonna be updated at final lvl once I get there.
wouldn't it be better to get 4 in rogue for the sharpshooter feat then respec later at a higher lvl rather than keeping it at 3 while getting a 3rd class?
After being forced to kill Karlach in my first playthrough (because the grove died and she was big mad), I now found a place for her as my dedicated javelin thrower. I just wanna say your builds are great fun, and I expect this one is no different.
Does it matter what race you go with?
For DPS builds like this one Half-Orcs are the best due to savage attacker feat
This build is shredding at lvl 6. What about after lvl 7?
ok but how do u eqipe to crowbows i cant seem to equip one in offhand
Not sure what im doing wrong but when i get to level 5 for rouge and select ranger subclass i dont get a opinion to pick a feat. Any idea?
Subclasses are chosen on rogue level 3 and ranger lvl 3.
@@rpgdivision I think the confusion is that we dont get to pick a feat. By changing to ranger at level 4, instead of getting the crossbow master or +2 to an ability we roll ranger, but on your breakdown for the levels it says to take one of those two.
^^^ this
@@R3CL4IMER This is correct, ASI's are tied to class level not character level. The leveling breakdown in the video is incorrect when it says take 2 dex or xbow master at level 5. Otherwise build seems really cool.
@@R3CL4IMER Yeah, my mistake. Didn't correct that from the 1st version. Thanks for the feedback.
Is there any reason for 14 CHA? i understand hex are not savable any point to have plus in charisma with only one level of WLock?
No reason. As I said at the beginning of leveling process explanation, 16 DEX and CON are important for fighting. Rest are optional.
I should use the dexterity gloves?
Def an option
i tried wielding 2 hadcrowbows, but it didn't let me equip them
Did try equipping one on your main hand first?
Which Race?
Doesn't matter
I prefer fighter/battle master with thief.
Works a little better than Elden Ring's version hehehehe
nice on bastard
This should most likely get fixed, since this is not how this is supposed to work in 5th edition
Only thing that can be fixed is multiple Hex procs per attack which wouldn't affect the build that much (-1d6 dmg per turn).
@@rpgdivision The extra bonus action shouldn't be usable for attack, also dual wielding them isn't supposed to be allowed either by the rules. But I hope the don't fix that, since being able make Valla in this game is too cool
But the haste and thief bonus actions need to be fixed asap
@@Songfugel You need to be able to dual wield them to make up for other in-game limitations.
In tabletop DND you can do main hand melee attack as an Action and use Off-hand crossbow as bonus action. BG3 does not allow you to place hand crossbow in off-hand with empty main hand. The only way to desiignate a hand crossbow in off-hand slot is to get one in main hand first.
This also has a downside in the fact you need to have found a 2nd hand crossbow in your playthrough before you can use them with a bonus action.
@@Aeliasson Not true, you are trying yo explain a game design decision, by a trivial technical issue. They should just make 1h xbow offhandable only with melee weapon, very simple fix to implement. Also disqualify thief bonus action from using attack bonus actions, and make shove a main action as it should be
There is nothing technically difficult about these fixes, and I am extremely surprised if these aren't fixed in the big update, since WotC is ludicrously strict about following their IP to the letter, even when it makes no sense. Also in D&D lore, those hand crossbows are famously zero damage weapons, and are used as one shot per combat only to deliver paralyzing poisons
Not dual wielded repeating xbows like Valla, as this build is able to do
this game is only based on 5e its not and has never claimed to be perfectly 5e. there are tons of differences between the game and 5e