Look at the professor welcoming and then explaining about Llewn to his friends after his burst up days back . His wife too. They understand him and accept him the way he is . People dealing with depression need such people.
"I don't think depression is something that ever truly goes away, but I have accepted it as part of me..." This is one of the most important elements of this video to me. I thought for a long time that I could outrun depression, eat right, sleep right, work more, and things would be okay. That's just not how it works. Everything in my life could be shit and I could be happy and healthy. Everything could be going great and I could be completely dead inside. Thanks for a great video. Really appreciated it.
End stigma and Always be their for Others. Weather a smile or an ear...or more. Humanity do what you can afford. Treat others with patience and understanding...I heartSad people as well.
I find Barton Fink to be a better "lesson" for how to avoid excessive depression or anxiety. In Barton Fink you clearly see how the protagonist put the bar too high. He is supposed to be a genius, a perfect representation of the common man, and not at all "soiled" by commercial interests. In that movie, it is "easy" to see that he needs to find his "lane" where he can express himself in a way that doesn't "lock him up," and associate with people who allows for that, and perhaps learn to be happy with being more ordinary (but with potential). Be grateful for the good he is permitted to do. And not expect perfection. The cognitive thought-trap he is in IS avoidable. Some negative beliefs and thoughts produce hormones/endorphins that "locks you in the basement". So, if possible, find beliefs and thoughts you can "live with" ..
I find this video really romantic and sweet, because you decided to talk about something that exists, but is like a ghost... I like this sort of "intimacy".
Been going through a weird period in my life recently, and I really needed this video. The line "I'm tired. I thought I just needed a night's sleep but it's more than that" hits so fucking heavy for me.
It is disingenuous. Depression is *sooo* much more than "sadness". It's apathy. It's guilt. It's being in a rut, having no drive, no direction. It's pain and lack of feeling all at the same time. And it fuckin' sucks. I'll check this film out, I love Coen Bros., so even if it doesn't help in some way, I'm sure I'll still enjoy it. Thanks man!
I don't exactly think the movie helped me, actually it was probably more triggering than anything. However, credit where it's due, it is one of the most accurate and non-romanticized depictions of depression I've seen put to film
I really like Llewyn Davis' character. It's really hard to make a character that is an asshole during most part of your story, but not because it's a bad person. And the Coen Brothers do that while still making him simpathetic more times that I expected during the film. We need more movies like this, specially for the reason that made you do this pretty good video in the first place.
This was awesome Ryan! Thanks for that! I went through a similar period of just feeling numb, incomplete; plus I also got kinda resentful that I've missed out on so many things when I was younger! Anyways, it's really cool that you decided to share your story!
Mike, can you explain a little more what you mean by feeling resentful about missing out on certain things when you were younger? I think I understand what you mean.
The place beyond the pines is the movie that helps me through rough times. Reminds me that sometimes, there is no resolution for injustices in the past.
Ran across this video at the exact moment I needed to see it. The frustration of being so drained by everything, the thing you loved to do now just feeling more like you're pulling teeth--I've felt it lately now more than I think I ever have in my life. With no cure for depression, solidarity--at the very least--does help a little bit, I think. So, thank you for making this, Ryan.
For me its your best video so far Btw Im one of the older fans and I do love the way you talk about your emotion, it makes you much more genuine, keep on going on
This video was amazing, I love this film and I also relate to Llewyn, but I think I do now much more than I did when I first saw the movie. And looking back at it, it's the perfect depiction of how it feels to fight for your art, when you build your life around something and that something becomes your sole purpose in life, it's really painful to give it all up and accept life without it. I dont know about those people who didn't sympathize with him, but the movie really put me in his shoes, even if he's suffering for his art, and its causing him problems, we dont want him to quit, the same way he doesn't either. This movie didn't exactly cause on me the same effect it did on you, but your video certainly did now. thank you.
The struggle to create is so hard when you don't have passion. You have to make things for the right reason. Because you love it. Not because you feel like you owe a debt to the world or have to use your talents lest you go unnoticed. Your talents are derived from your passion in the first place. Getting back to basics and falling in love with what you do all over again is the best way to keep yourself going. Don't think about how others will react to it. Make something YOU enjoy.
Goddamn it guy, this movie helped me too, a lot along the lines of what u told here, cause I'm am artist, or i try to be one would be more accurate, and being surrounded by people that cant even comprehend the struggle it is just to be able to create something, let alone have it accepted by others is devastating and crushing, and this movie, though not uplifting showed me, through Llwyn's refusal of quitting it, or taking help from others that don't understand him like he'd want them to, that there are people willing to be there for you, even if they don't really get you, it taught me that you have to broaden your look and not fixate on just a thing, and that you shouldn't quit but neither should you obsess over your dreams and fantasies. Log rant, sry
@@anders671 sorry i didn't notice this earlier, but youtube's notice system is crap.. i don't have much but plan to have more in the futere, took sometime finding myself and the focus to finish my university degree... rambling again, anyway if ya want search oximurus or oximurus.art on instagram, i have stuff there
Thanks for addresing this, Ryan. I see my depression the same way; like an empty, tired feeling. Its great to see someone address this not as an issue created by the person, but more of a thing that they happen to deal with.
I can’t honestly say I’ve experienced depression, but I have definitely experienced crippling ‘lows’. Times where I feel paralysed by an impatience for success that seems permanently on the horizon, yet also completely out of reach. This movie spoke to me on a very personal level (I study music at a very good uni and am trying to build a career, whilst surrounded by people I feel are more talented and successful than me) but I was never quite sure what it was, beyond the obvious, that touched me so impactfully about the character of Llewyn. This video really helped me understand that what I see in Llewyn is that he represents the real possibility of failure to succeed, and the assurance that failure is not shameful unless you perceive it as such. It’s obvious really but it’s an idea that feels remarkable while lost in the depths of self doubt compounded by the external and internal pressure to succeed in something that you love. Not sure what my point is, I just wanted to thank you for helping me understand myself, and a movie I adore, a little better.
It's always a wonderful thing to hear people share about their periods of emotional turmoil and the experiences that helped them cope and understand themselves better, I was 16 at the time this movie came out and it hit me in a very similar way to you since I had been going through some emotional difficulties dealing with trauma for quite some time and I could relate to the situation and premise of the movie so much, it's honestly still my favorite Coen brothers movie to this day. Thank you for making this video.
I forget when I started watching you but I think this was the 1st video I saw. I remember watching this and it left an impact on me long term. When I 1st watched it though, I forgot about it, and got a little confused when your video on The Road popped up on my home page. I've binged your videos ever since, but I've only just watched Inside Llewyn Davis this morning. I remembered that video I watched, and I searched it up and I completely forgot you did this. It feels like I've come full circle now. Well done on the video mate, you did a really solid job
As I’ve been a long time fan of Ryan, it’s fI didn’t know this video existed until today. His words hit me harder than I could’ve ever imagined. Sitting alone right now, contemplating my life choices, while listening to the words almost felt like I was listening to my own inner voice. I won’t go into details running my own struggles, because I don’t wanna bore anybody LOL. But thank you Ryan so much. Listening to your words right now has meant the world to me.
Great video as usual. This is one of my favourite movies of all time and while I was aware of a lot that you mentioned there were some things you noticed that I hadn't seen before. Support from Canada, keep making great videos!
ILD is one of those movies that I find I can't explain why I love it so much to someone without exposing a lot of my own personal issues and struggles with mental illness. But that's what's so amazing about film- that people I don't even know can make something that affects me in such an intimate way. Thank you for sharing your (likewise) feelings about this movie, Ryan.
Oof, this video hurt. Thank you for sharing your experience, it's always good to have focus on depression and possible resolutions - or at least ways to manage it. A constant fear of mine is that I'll never escape the dead feelings, or the panic of having to move forward in life, or the anger and frustrations and complete burnout for things I love. The first time I realized I had depression, was a night where I tried to do three things in succession (reading, coding, writing) and none of them brought me happiness. I realized something was wrong and I had to get help. It's been almost 5 years now, and (as is the case with mental illnesses) it's still an upwards battle. I constantly fear that I'll never get out of this cycle of dread and numbness and that my future will always be more of the same. I have a hard time with movies that don't show hope for a character (looking at you, 'Melancholia') and I honestly didn't feel good about this movie either. Yet the fact that you got something positive out of it and managed to deal with some heavy issues of your own because of it, makes me feel more hopeful and comforted. Everyone gets solace and inspiration from different places. I'm glad you found yours - And I'm glad it's led you to creating amazing videos like this.
Brilliant as always Ryan, something that's close to home for myself and some in my family. I've found that expecting everything to be perfect is a big contributor to my depression. When things don't go as you expect/hope it does something to you subconsciously. Could be something small and insignificant that chips another little piece away from you. I've learned to accept who I am, having my son has given me a new perspective and purpose and I can honestly say I feel content at the minute. Something I haven't honestly felt in over 20 years. It never goes away. You just have to try to forgive yourself for who you are sometimes. Stay good my man. Seeing a new video of yours pop up is always a highlight to my day. Much love man
I joined the Marines because although I really really wanted to get into school for screenwriting but I was afraid I’d procrastinate and waste time and in my own comfortable living style destroy any progression in my success, besides that I knew if I never did something or offered the world something meaningful or something mattered, I’d never feel ok with myself. It took me a while to realize my art can impact the world and that I don’t need to literally... put myself in the position I’m in now to create an impact lmaoo. Nonetheless, this was interesting to watch and it’s helped me further contextualize and structure my own journey in all this, I hope to create a stable enough foundation for myself once my term is up and I can fund myself a bit if not have the discipline to try to accomplish my dreams
The film is truly remarkable. I think everyone can see so many different themes, Every choice Llewyn has in a 1 week period that could positively alter his life he chooses wrong. He could sign up for royalties but he accepts the cash. He could have saved the box with the MMarine license but he tells his sister to throw it away. He could walk left but he steps into a wet snowbank. In Chicago he could join up with a trio (LLewyn, Paul and Mary??) but says no. He could turn right to Akron but goes straight. He could pick up the cat and have a friend but closes the door. I think the message is the door never completely closes on our opportunities so sometime, eventually, you may choose correctly.
Your video meant a lot to me because it's not a self-serving wail about your depression, but rather a lovely exploration of the way great art can speak to us and help us when we're down. I just lost my dad and then my mom inside of six months, and a 4-year relationship in between. I've never experienced depression before, but after this year I've actually been wondering if I'm going to make it at all. Your video reminded me how much a great movie or novel improves my life, how much pleasure it can bring, and the ways it can help a person understand and cope with pain. It reminds me there are ways to handle what I'm going through. It might be just a TH-cam video, but it meant a lot to me, so thank you.
This movie means a lot to me as well. Been going through a similar kind of thing past year or two. Really enjoyed the video a lot Ryan, it actually kind of helped me!
I can’t thank you enough for this video. I haven’t seen Inside Llewyn Davis since it came out in theaters, and at the time I was 21 and actually doing well for kind of the first time in my life. But now-at 25-I’m jaded, hopeless, depressed, socially isolated, and consumed by thoughts of artistic failure (for me, it’s writing). And I really think I need to see this move again now. Like, critically need. The first video of yours I ever saw was the Little Miss Sunshine one, which struck so many chords with me. I’m glad to have found you, and keep up the good work!
@carlos - i feel like that all the time. Yet I know that Fighting it alone is not what Helps me truly combat it. We are humans, we're meant to live in community and share things, even our Intimate misery. Yet, Depression lies to you, It will tell you 'you're alone' and that 'no one can help' ... etc. Depression it lies, using your own voice and in your our mind - A messed up evil twin bullying you from within. So you the good one needs to help yourself by seeking help.
This has been my favorite film since I saw it several years ago. I relate so deeply with this character as a struggling musician myself who has dedicated my entire to creating music, and also as someone who has battled depression for well over a decade. Thank you for making this video essay and beginning to put into words how important this film is. It changed my life, and you have laid out many of the reasons why. I'm going to share this video with everyone I can.
Something about the way Oscar Isaac walks adds to this character. I’m not sure if that’s his natural stride but it just seems like walking is taking it’s toll on him among other things…
Ryan this video made me think a lot you know , as someone with a passion for drawing and filmmaking i sometimes hit that rock bottom and that wall that is depression , its not only comforting to hear im not alone in this but also that even the super talented people i look up to may have that self doubt and fear that gets to me , so thank you for this wonderful video
Thank you for sharing this Ryan. Our journeys are not dissimilar nor are the scars we bare or the prices we've had to pay. Hearing others with similar stories makes you feel less alone, less crazy, less eternally frustrated. So again, thank you so much Ryan. And here I thought you were just a pretty face. Well a pretty face with a rocking knowledge of cinema.
Beautiful video man. Seen the film multiple times even before last night but it’s been on my mind so much that I watched it again this morning. 2 viewings in less than 12 hours. Amazing film.
I get the same feeling at times. I destroy my conscience saying to myself “I will be a filmmaker” but never really go farther then that. I’m struggling just trying to make first video because of this burden. This video has truly touched me Mr. Hollinger, thank you so much.
This was a good movie and I think I'll rewatch it. Thanks for the reminder. Learning that depression had nothing to do with feeling 'sad' was one of the hardest lessons I ever learned, although once I realised it was what I was experiencing, without feeling at all 'sad', I was like "well, duh", and kinda felt like I knew it all along just didn't want to admit it. Interesting video!
I am glad you made this video because it was a factor in pushing me to watch this film. But it also didn't prepare me for how hard it would hit. I am a writer whose debut novel flopped so badly it impacted her ability to publish more. Coming from a complex and difficult personal life. Whose brother committed suicide the same year she got her book deal. Who even briefly had the merchant marines (deeeeply uncomfortable similarity) floated before her after Sea Scouts. I definitely go about my life in a very different way from Llewyn, but the fact remains that I sobbed the first two times I watched this movie. I'm already planning to buy the DVD because the Coen Brothers make me feel so desperately seen.
This video comes at a very timely period for me. Thank you for being honest with your opinions, it's somehow comforting knowing that others struggle just as much too.
There are so many things that you have said that resonate with me, and I think with a lot of other people, too. It is a difficult process to accept certain things to move forward with your life - this is a stage that I'm also going through. Thank you for the video, the insightful analysis, as always, and especially for sharing your story. Stay strong.
Great essay Ryan! I certainly hope that things start looking up for you wherever you are in life sir. I'm happy the film spoke to you deeply. I loved this film as well.
This video comes at a time when I'm feeling the bite of depression come down a little harder than normal, so thanks for putting it out there. ILD is one of my favourite movies, and it's comforting to see an analysis of why I found myself identifying so much with Llewyn from the perspective of someone else who understands depression.
Thank you so much for this video! Went through a similar thing myself and found a lot of comfort in Inside Llewyn Davis. it’s my go to depression movie.
As an art student I just want to say to all the other artists in all mediums or "trades" that you're appreciated, yo. Shame on anyone who shoots you down with their stupid remarks towards your passion; don't worry they're probably more low than they appear. Ryan, you're a badass.
As an angsty, existential film school graduate, your journey mirrors mine so well. Thank you for the amazing video essay on one of the greatest films ever.
Hoo boy! I know I'm way late to this, but I just wantched this film for the first time a few weeks ago and it's definitely near the top of my favorites list. I was super excited when this popped up in my recommended. Thanks for sharing your story, Ryan.
I've started watching your older videos as I found channel late 2018 I think? - but wow I kinda wished I saw this way earlier in general cuz now I wonder if i would've coped better if i saw this movie before I got medicated. The part where you briefed over Troy really hit home though. I have a 'Troy' in my life. A long friend that I've known for almost a decade by now. And I've unfairly taken my frustrations out on him because I'm absolutely swimming in jealousy on how he is able to smile and be happy even in situations where we're both sitting at the bottom of the barrel together. It took me having a 'Troy' constantly in my life to really acknowledge how much is wrong with me that forced me to even confront the IDEA that I could be jealous over the concept of just...being happy I guess? I don't want to be comfortable in my depression or other issues, but I eventually realized I feared the idea of "who am I without these issues?" and hated that someone, who also has his own mental health issues, seems to be appear that he's content with life than I ever was. Pretty much like "if i'm not happy, he shouldn't be happy" sort of thing. I know I haven't been fair to him when I get frustrated over him being happy/positive. Especially since by the end of the day he's not hurting anyone doing that, but I would actively be hurting him if I dismiss him for his positive outlook on life - and no matter how much I feel my pessimism might be justified in the moment, I would still be the one in the wrong if I'm the only one hurting someone else. I'm just surprised that even all this time he still stuck around me. I'm still working on not being a jerk about him being positive (as my eye rolls, scoffs, criticism, etc still slip out) as improving my behavior (in general) is the least I could do for him. My issues are never gonna go away, and a part of me still fears on 'getting better' and losing a part of myself in the process; but I knew I had to do a lot of self reflecting and make some effort to change or improve in some way once I realized my self-destructive acts can't be described as self-destructive anymore.
Incredible video. As an artist myself (and someone dealing with other personal stuff like anxiety and other things) it's really difficult to deal with the cycle that as you said "hurts incredibly deeply", but we have to keep trying. I actually only watched the movie a few weeks ago and it made its way to my heart and it's really nice to know that someone else connected to it as well. Here are some movies that I recommend (if anyone is reading this at all): "The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby: Her", "This Beautiful Fantastic", "Begin Again" and "Short Term 12" :)
This video is amazing. I have to say I haven't yet watched Inside Lewyn Davis, but I think I could say I'm in a similar situation where I see everything just gray and numb. Knowing that people I admire pass throug the same things as I do gives me a little bit of confort. Thanks for your video, I really mean it.
I saw it during one of the hardest, most isolated periods of my art studies, and coming out of the cinema, my eyes went on leaking tears for ten good minutes. You described the parts of his character I identified with really well here. I don’t know if it helped much in the way you described, but it was certainly electrifying, the paradox of recognizing my own sense of isolation and pointlessness in a character like that. Also the wondering if getting back up time after time is brave and resilient, or just cowardly procrastination. Likely both. Anyways, thanks for reminding me of this beautiful film with its gorgeous photography and score.
One of my all time favorite movies. First song I learned by ear was far thee well the morning after I watched it. It came into my life at the exact right time.
Dude! Amazing video. I have the same feelings for this remarkable film and it continues to help me cope with my own problems with depression. I am surprised at how much your insights mirror mine as well as your experience with depression and the struggle of artistic ambition at the sake of happiness.The first time I saw this film I too had no idea what it was about other than a folk singer and I like folk music. I found a character in Llewyn that I saw so much of myself in.
I love this movie, and I loved this video. I’ve had similar feelings towards this movie, and I’m glad that somebody has finally made a video about this movie and it’s context. Thank you, Ryan
This was very moving. I should watch that movie sometime. These videos are just so...well spoken and I kinda resonated with this a little. Like with the part about thinking you're better than other people. I can totally get that. Thank you for this.
ILD is my favourite movie, one that helps me breathe through the often overwhelming malaise of life. Im so happy you found similar beauty in it, and that it is likewise able to help you out. Best of luck man.
As a fellow artist, this movie is fucking painful. It really does make you feel vulnerable if you’ve become distant to the world. Llewyn is a deeply sympathetic figure, he’s a guy who’s lost himself because of his love for his passion. It’s a very personal movie for a lot of artists, especially when you face the inevitability of disillusionment of that artwork. It’s a great movie and I love it.
This was so well-crafted and articulate that I had to comment. I love that you bring a personal angle to the video essay! It resonated with me in a way I didn't expect from film analysis. Keep it up!
art was never just for fun for me. when I was five I was diagnosed with brain swelling. I lost the ability to eat and walk. lack of food actually gave me anorexia later on. when I couldn't show my imagination in play I started making comics, but when I got better and kept making art to this day I convinced myself that illness and talent are one in the same. im scared of being happy because ill stop doing the one thing that helped me fight a illness that could of taken my life. I want to make movies.
I rarely comment on videos but I genuinely wanted to thank you for making this video. I had to pause a few times to groan/scream out of relatability/sympathy, frustration, epiphany etc
great video again. "Millenial Malaise" is a great way to describe the feelings of this generation. It's a reaction to a lie we've been told that hard work translates to success.
I think from watching this i might have to go back and re-watch it. I didn't appreciate this the first time round, found it to be distant and didnt like the central character, but watching this video has made me want to reavaluate this. Plus from what you have said i can relate to some of the feelings mentioned, and i have come out finding some of your remarks made towards the end of the video very inspiring and in a strange way something that i can take or find inspiraiton from. Great video.
Thanks for sharing mate, have been going through a similar thing like you (except in reverse, I'm coming TO film-making after years of hating doing something else and hating I was failing at it and myself for hating it and so on) and I guess like Llewyn but I definitely don't remember this movie having such an impact on me when I watched it.
Excellent video... When I saw this movie I liked it but didn't thought much about it. But with this video now I can watch it again with new eyes. I've been struggling with depression for over 20 years so I can resonate with the message here.... I'm still chasing the cat.
I just realized the saddest part. When Al Cody asks him if he wants to go to Chicago Llew says "i prefer newyork". fast forward, he "gives up" but Jean gets him one more chance to shine (and make a little dough). Llew needed $80 to get his seaman papers back and its safe to say after that gig he made the $80 and finally shipped out...only to come home one day and realized he literally just missed out on THE BOOM that Dylan and others catapulted into history. Just like always, Llew was SOOOOOO close. He literally glances at greatness. Seeing Dylan take the stage. He was THAT close!
As an aspiring musician, no movie has really depressed me more than Inside Llewyn Davis. But as someone suffering from depression, I also found a kind of comfort in it.
I really appreciated this video. I am coming to the realization that the thing I have loved and have wanted to pursue for years, the thing that has kept me sane through years of depression and anxiety, is not making me happy now as I pursue it in college. How do you let go of a dream when it has defined your future for so long? What do I do now? It's good to know I am not alone in this feeling, and that letting go of that dream won't be the end of my life or my world. Maybe it could even be a beginning for me. Thank you Ryan.
This video came at a great time for me. I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow where I'll finally concede and admit that I need some help with my depression. This video just re-enforced that it's ok to do it.
Thank you for the video. It was Amazing! I actually was/still in your place and literally the same thing happened to me. I watched it in a really hard time in my life and it helped me to bounce back and to make progress. Love your work and keep up the amazing videos!
I actually legit cried at this. Llewyn Davis is the character I relate to most out of any medium so this hit way, way too close to home for me. Another excellent video, Ryan.
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Look at the professor welcoming and then explaining about Llewn to his friends after his burst up days back . His wife too.
They understand him and accept him the way he is . People dealing with depression need such people.
They're awfully understanding.
"I don't think depression is something that ever truly goes away, but I have accepted it as part of me..."
This is one of the most important elements of this video to me. I thought for a long time that I could outrun depression, eat right, sleep right, work more, and things would be okay. That's just not how it works. Everything in my life could be shit and I could be happy and healthy. Everything could be going great and I could be completely dead inside.
Thanks for a great video. Really appreciated it.
End stigma and Always be their for Others. Weather a smile or an ear...or more. Humanity do what you can afford. Treat others with patience and understanding...I heartSad people as well.
I find Barton Fink to be a better "lesson" for how to avoid excessive depression or anxiety. In Barton Fink you clearly see how the protagonist put the bar too high. He is supposed to be a genius, a perfect representation of the common man, and not at all "soiled" by commercial interests.
In that movie, it is "easy" to see that he needs to find his "lane" where he can express himself in a way that doesn't "lock him up," and associate with people who allows for that, and perhaps learn to be happy with being more ordinary (but with potential). Be grateful for the good he is permitted to do. And not expect perfection.
The cognitive thought-trap he is in IS avoidable. Some negative beliefs and thoughts produce hormones/endorphins that "locks you in the basement". So, if possible, find beliefs and thoughts you can "live with" ..
I find this video really romantic and sweet, because you decided to talk about something that exists, but is like a ghost... I like this sort of "intimacy".
As a fellow human being who also suffers from clinical depression, I express my gratitude to you for making this video.
6 Yeara later but I echo this, same, thank you, as another (Struggling) Artist with depression, just another Llewyn among many. Here's to all of us.
Been going through a weird period in my life recently, and I really needed this video. The line "I'm tired. I thought I just needed a night's sleep but it's more than that" hits so fucking heavy for me.
It is disingenuous. Depression is *sooo* much more than "sadness". It's apathy. It's guilt. It's being in a rut, having no drive, no direction. It's pain and lack of feeling all at the same time.
And it fuckin' sucks.
I'll check this film out, I love Coen Bros., so even if it doesn't help in some way, I'm sure I'll still enjoy it. Thanks man!
I don't exactly think the movie helped me, actually it was probably more triggering than anything. However, credit where it's due, it is one of the most accurate and non-romanticized depictions of depression I've seen put to film
I really like Llewyn Davis' character. It's really hard to make a character that is an asshole during most part of your story, but not because it's a bad person. And the Coen Brothers do that while still making him simpathetic more times that I expected during the film.
We need more movies like this, specially for the reason that made you do this pretty good video in the first place.
This was awesome Ryan! Thanks for that! I went through a similar period of just feeling numb, incomplete; plus I also got kinda resentful that I've missed out on so many things when I was younger! Anyways, it's really cool that you decided to share your story!
Mike, can you explain a little more what you mean by feeling resentful about missing out on certain things when you were younger? I think I understand what you mean.
I don't get what these 'many things' are. What things?
The place beyond the pines is the movie that helps me through rough times. Reminds me that sometimes, there is no resolution for injustices in the past.
an absolute gem
Ran across this video at the exact moment I needed to see it.
The frustration of being so drained by everything, the thing you loved to do now just feeling more like you're pulling teeth--I've felt it lately now more than I think I ever have in my life.
With no cure for depression, solidarity--at the very least--does help a little bit, I think. So, thank you for making this, Ryan.
For me its your best video so far
Btw
Im one of the older fans and I do love the way you talk about your emotion, it makes you much more genuine, keep on going on
The best representation of depression that I've seen on screen is Manchester by the Sea. Now I'm interested in seeing this film.
So much melancholic charm in this movie, one of my absolute faves and so tragically underrated; deserves a lot more recognition #InsideLewynDavis
Thanks for sharing your experience with this film
This video was amazing, I love this film and I also relate to Llewyn, but I think I do now much more than I did when I first saw the movie.
And looking back at it, it's the perfect depiction of how it feels to fight for your art, when you build your life around something and that something becomes your sole purpose in life, it's really painful to give it all up and accept life without it.
I dont know about those people who didn't sympathize with him, but the movie really put me in his shoes, even if he's suffering for his art, and its causing him problems, we dont want him to quit, the same way he doesn't either.
This movie didn't exactly cause on me the same effect it did on you, but your video certainly did now. thank you.
The struggle to create is so hard when you don't have passion. You have to make things for the right reason. Because you love it. Not because you feel like you owe a debt to the world or have to use your talents lest you go unnoticed. Your talents are derived from your passion in the first place. Getting back to basics and falling in love with what you do all over again is the best way to keep yourself going. Don't think about how others will react to it. Make something YOU enjoy.
Goddamn it guy, this movie helped me too, a lot along the lines of what u told here, cause I'm am artist, or i try to be one would be more accurate, and being surrounded by people that cant even comprehend the struggle it is just to be able to create something, let alone have it accepted by others is devastating and crushing, and this movie, though not uplifting showed me, through Llwyn's refusal of quitting it, or taking help from others that don't understand him like he'd want them to, that there are people willing to be there for you, even if they don't really get you, it taught me that you have to broaden your look and not fixate on just a thing, and that you shouldn't quit but neither should you obsess over your dreams and fantasies.
Log rant, sry
Thanks for your words. I'm also an artist, a musician to be specific. Can I see your work?
That was great.
nailed it
@@LaurenceSouthDrumsUK thank you man, i think i was just speaking my mind tho
@@anders671 sorry i didn't notice this earlier, but youtube's notice system is crap.. i don't have much but plan to have more in the futere, took sometime finding myself and the focus to finish my university degree... rambling again, anyway if ya want search oximurus or oximurus.art on instagram, i have stuff there
Thanks for addresing this, Ryan. I see my depression the same way; like an empty, tired feeling. Its great to see someone address this not as an issue created by the person, but more of a thing that they happen to deal with.
this is one of my favorite films and by far the Coen Brothers most underrated and underappreciated film ever, completely get where you're coming from.
life is a collaboration... that hit me hard man... i'll try to keep it mind, thank you
I can’t honestly say I’ve experienced depression, but I have definitely experienced crippling ‘lows’. Times where I feel paralysed by an impatience for success that seems permanently on the horizon, yet also completely out of reach. This movie spoke to me on a very personal level (I study music at a very good uni and am trying to build a career, whilst surrounded by people I feel are more talented and successful than me) but I was never quite sure what it was, beyond the obvious, that touched me so impactfully about the character of Llewyn. This video really helped me understand that what I see in Llewyn is that he represents the real possibility of failure to succeed, and the assurance that failure is not shameful unless you perceive it as such. It’s obvious really but it’s an idea that feels remarkable while lost in the depths of self doubt compounded by the external and internal pressure to succeed in something that you love. Not sure what my point is, I just wanted to thank you for helping me understand myself, and a movie I adore, a little better.
It's always a wonderful thing to hear people share about their periods of emotional turmoil and the experiences that helped them cope and understand themselves better, I was 16 at the time this movie came out and it hit me in a very similar way to you since I had been going through some emotional difficulties dealing with trauma for quite some time and I could relate to the situation and premise of the movie so much, it's honestly still my favorite Coen brothers movie to this day. Thank you for making this video.
I forget when I started watching you but I think this was the 1st video I saw. I remember watching this and it left an impact on me long term. When I 1st watched it though, I forgot about it, and got a little confused when your video on The Road popped up on my home page. I've binged your videos ever since, but I've only just watched Inside Llewyn Davis this morning. I remembered that video I watched, and I searched it up and I completely forgot you did this. It feels like I've come full circle now. Well done on the video mate, you did a really solid job
As I’ve been a long time fan of Ryan, it’s fI didn’t know this video existed until today. His words hit me harder than I could’ve ever imagined. Sitting alone right now, contemplating my life choices, while listening to the words almost felt like I was listening to my own inner voice. I won’t go into details running my own struggles, because I don’t wanna bore anybody LOL. But thank you Ryan so much. Listening to your words right now has meant the world to me.
Great video as usual. This is one of my favourite movies of all time and while I was aware of a lot that you mentioned there were some things you noticed that I hadn't seen before. Support from Canada, keep making great videos!
I've seen this movie some years ago, but I think I should watch it again, now. Now that I've become disillusioned with the world.
ILD is one of those movies that I find I can't explain why I love it so much to someone without exposing a lot of my own personal issues and struggles with mental illness. But that's what's so amazing about film- that people I don't even know can make something that affects me in such an intimate way. Thank you for sharing your (likewise) feelings about this movie, Ryan.
Oof, this video hurt. Thank you for sharing your experience, it's always good to have focus on depression and possible resolutions - or at least ways to manage it. A constant fear of mine is that I'll never escape the dead feelings, or the panic of having to move forward in life, or the anger and frustrations and complete burnout for things I love. The first time I realized I had depression, was a night where I tried to do three things in succession (reading, coding, writing) and none of them brought me happiness. I realized something was wrong and I had to get help. It's been almost 5 years now, and (as is the case with mental illnesses) it's still an upwards battle. I constantly fear that I'll never get out of this cycle of dread and numbness and that my future will always be more of the same. I have a hard time with movies that don't show hope for a character (looking at you, 'Melancholia') and I honestly didn't feel good about this movie either. Yet the fact that you got something positive out of it and managed to deal with some heavy issues of your own because of it, makes me feel more hopeful and comforted. Everyone gets solace and inspiration from different places. I'm glad you found yours - And I'm glad it's led you to creating amazing videos like this.
I totally relate to this long message and how you feel. I relate to your suffering. I understand how you feel.
I come back every now and then to this video and this film; maybe not to heal myself but to contextualize myself.
Brilliant as always Ryan, something that's close to home for myself and some in my family. I've found that expecting everything to be perfect is a big contributor to my depression. When things don't go as you expect/hope it does something to you subconsciously. Could be something small and insignificant that chips another little piece away from you. I've learned to accept who I am, having my son has given me a new perspective and purpose and I can honestly say I feel content at the minute. Something I haven't honestly felt in over 20 years. It never goes away. You just have to try to forgive yourself for who you are sometimes.
Stay good my man. Seeing a new video of yours pop up is always a highlight to my day. Much love man
I joined the Marines because although I really really wanted to get into school for screenwriting but I was afraid I’d procrastinate and waste time and in my own comfortable living style destroy any progression in my success, besides that I knew if I never did something or offered the world something meaningful or something mattered, I’d never feel ok with myself. It took me a while to realize my art can impact the world and that I don’t need to literally... put myself in the position I’m in now to create an impact lmaoo. Nonetheless, this was interesting to watch and it’s helped me further contextualize and structure my own journey in all this, I hope to create a stable enough foundation for myself once my term is up and I can fund myself a bit if not have the discipline to try to accomplish my dreams
The film is truly remarkable. I think everyone can see so many different themes, Every choice Llewyn has in a 1 week period that could positively alter his life he chooses wrong. He could sign up for royalties but he accepts the cash. He could have saved the box with the MMarine license but he tells his sister to throw it away. He could walk left but he steps into a wet snowbank. In Chicago he could join up with a trio (LLewyn, Paul and Mary??) but says no. He could turn right to Akron but goes straight. He could pick up the cat and have a friend but closes the door. I think the message is the door never completely closes on our opportunities so sometime, eventually, you may choose correctly.
he wont ever join up with trio or duo anyway
I actually kinda needed this. Keep doing what you do, if you like it. I know I do.
Your video meant a lot to me because it's not a self-serving wail about your depression, but rather a lovely exploration of the way great art can speak to us and help us when we're down. I just lost my dad and then my mom inside of six months, and a 4-year relationship in between. I've never experienced depression before, but after this year I've actually been wondering if I'm going to make it at all. Your video reminded me how much a great movie or novel improves my life, how much pleasure it can bring, and the ways it can help a person understand and cope with pain. It reminds me there are ways to handle what I'm going through. It might be just a TH-cam video, but it meant a lot to me, so thank you.
This movie means a lot to me as well. Been going through a similar kind of thing past year or two. Really enjoyed the video a lot Ryan, it actually kind of helped me!
I can’t thank you enough for this video. I haven’t seen Inside Llewyn Davis since it came out in theaters, and at the time I was 21 and actually doing well for kind of the first time in my life. But now-at 25-I’m jaded, hopeless, depressed, socially isolated, and consumed by thoughts of artistic failure (for me, it’s writing). And I really think I need to see this move again now. Like, critically need.
The first video of yours I ever saw was the Little Miss Sunshine one, which struck so many chords with me. I’m glad to have found you, and keep up the good work!
Sometimes I wish to be strong enough to fight my depression.
But I am not.
We’re all rooting for you!
You are
@carlos - i feel like that all the time. Yet I know that Fighting it alone is not what Helps me truly combat it. We are humans, we're meant to live in community and share things, even our Intimate misery. Yet, Depression lies to you, It will tell you 'you're alone' and that 'no one can help' ... etc. Depression it lies, using your own voice and in your our mind - A messed up evil twin bullying you from within. So you the good one needs to help yourself by seeking help.
Carlos Alberto Garcia Jimenez Welcome to the club pal.
U still alive?
This has been my favorite film since I saw it several years ago. I relate so deeply with this character as a struggling musician myself who has dedicated my entire to creating music, and also as someone who has battled depression for well over a decade. Thank you for making this video essay and beginning to put into words how important this film is. It changed my life, and you have laid out many of the reasons why. I'm going to share this video with everyone I can.
This is one of my favourite films and, as a result, is my favourite video of yours.
Something about the way Oscar Isaac walks adds to this character. I’m not sure if that’s his natural stride but it just seems like walking is taking it’s toll on him among other things…
Ryan this video made me think a lot you know , as someone with a passion for drawing and filmmaking i sometimes hit that rock bottom and that wall that is depression , its not only comforting to hear im not alone in this but also that even the super talented people i look up to may have that self doubt and fear that gets to me , so thank you for this wonderful video
haven't cried for a while. i reckon i needed that.
Thank you for sharing this Ryan. Our journeys are not dissimilar nor are the scars we bare or the prices we've had to pay. Hearing others with similar stories makes you feel less alone, less crazy, less eternally frustrated. So again, thank you so much Ryan. And here I thought you were just a pretty face. Well a pretty face with a rocking knowledge of cinema.
Beautiful video man. Seen the film multiple times even before last night but it’s been on my mind so much that I watched it again this morning. 2 viewings in less than 12 hours. Amazing film.
I love this film so much and it was really pleasant to experience such a well made story of your experience. Thank you
I get the same feeling at times. I destroy my conscience saying to myself “I will be a filmmaker” but never really go farther then that. I’m struggling just trying to make first video because of this burden. This video has truly touched me Mr. Hollinger, thank you so much.
This was a good movie and I think I'll rewatch it. Thanks for the reminder. Learning that depression had nothing to do with feeling 'sad' was one of the hardest lessons I ever learned, although once I realised it was what I was experiencing, without feeling at all 'sad', I was like "well, duh", and kinda felt like I knew it all along just didn't want to admit it. Interesting video!
I am glad you made this video because it was a factor in pushing me to watch this film. But it also didn't prepare me for how hard it would hit. I am a writer whose debut novel flopped so badly it impacted her ability to publish more. Coming from a complex and difficult personal life. Whose brother committed suicide the same year she got her book deal. Who even briefly had the merchant marines (deeeeply uncomfortable similarity) floated before her after Sea Scouts. I definitely go about my life in a very different way from Llewyn, but the fact remains that I sobbed the first two times I watched this movie. I'm already planning to buy the DVD because the Coen Brothers make me feel so desperately seen.
This video comes at a very timely period for me. Thank you for being honest with your opinions, it's somehow comforting knowing that others struggle just as much too.
There are so many things that you have said that resonate with me, and I think with a lot of other people, too. It is a difficult process to accept certain things to move forward with your life - this is a stage that I'm also going through. Thank you for the video, the insightful analysis, as always, and especially for sharing your story. Stay strong.
Great essay Ryan! I certainly hope that things start looking up for you wherever you are in life sir. I'm happy the film spoke to you deeply. I loved this film as well.
This video comes at a time when I'm feeling the bite of depression come down a little harder than normal, so thanks for putting it out there. ILD is one of my favourite movies, and it's comforting to see an analysis of why I found myself identifying so much with Llewyn from the perspective of someone else who understands depression.
Thank you so much for this video! Went through a similar thing myself and found a lot of comfort in Inside Llewyn Davis. it’s my go to depression movie.
As an art student I just want to say to all the other artists in all mediums or "trades" that you're appreciated, yo. Shame on anyone who shoots you down with their stupid remarks towards your passion; don't worry they're probably more low than they appear. Ryan, you're a badass.
One of my all time favourite films thanks for highlighting it!
As an angsty, existential film school graduate, your journey mirrors mine so well.
Thank you for the amazing video essay on one of the greatest films ever.
I always loved this movie dearly, but I think your summary helped me understand literally why. Thank you.
Hoo boy! I know I'm way late to this, but I just wantched this film for the first time a few weeks ago and it's definitely near the top of my favorites list. I was super excited when this popped up in my recommended. Thanks for sharing your story, Ryan.
I've started watching your older videos as I found channel late 2018 I think? - but wow I kinda wished I saw this way earlier in general cuz now I wonder if i would've coped better if i saw this movie before I got medicated.
The part where you briefed over Troy really hit home though. I have a 'Troy' in my life. A long friend that I've known for almost a decade by now. And I've unfairly taken my frustrations out on him because I'm absolutely swimming in jealousy on how he is able to smile and be happy even in situations where we're both sitting at the bottom of the barrel together.
It took me having a 'Troy' constantly in my life to really acknowledge how much is wrong with me that forced me to even confront the IDEA that I could be jealous over the concept of just...being happy I guess? I don't want to be comfortable in my depression or other issues, but I eventually realized I feared the idea of "who am I without these issues?" and hated that someone, who also has his own mental health issues, seems to be appear that he's content with life than I ever was. Pretty much like "if i'm not happy, he shouldn't be happy" sort of thing.
I know I haven't been fair to him when I get frustrated over him being happy/positive. Especially since by the end of the day he's not hurting anyone doing that, but I would actively be hurting him if I dismiss him for his positive outlook on life - and no matter how much I feel my pessimism might be justified in the moment, I would still be the one in the wrong if I'm the only one hurting someone else.
I'm just surprised that even all this time he still stuck around me. I'm still working on not being a jerk about him being positive (as my eye rolls, scoffs, criticism, etc still slip out) as improving my behavior (in general) is the least I could do for him.
My issues are never gonna go away, and a part of me still fears on 'getting better' and losing a part of myself in the process; but I knew I had to do a lot of self reflecting and make some effort to change or improve in some way once I realized my self-destructive acts can't be described as self-destructive anymore.
This is the 2nd or 3rd best Coen Brothers movie! I love it SO MUCH! Impacted me so much and glad to see it did the same for you!
I watched this movie again last night and you just helped understand a little bit more why I love it so much! Thanks!!
Incredible video. As an artist myself (and someone dealing with other personal stuff like anxiety and other things) it's really difficult to deal with the cycle that as you said "hurts incredibly deeply", but we have to keep trying. I actually only watched the movie a few weeks ago and it made its way to my heart and it's really nice to know that someone else connected to it as well.
Here are some movies that I recommend (if anyone is reading this at all): "The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby: Her", "This Beautiful Fantastic", "Begin Again" and "Short Term 12" :)
This video is amazing. I have to say I haven't yet watched Inside Lewyn Davis, but I think I could say I'm in a similar situation where I see everything just gray and numb. Knowing that people I admire pass throug the same things as I do gives me a little bit of confort. Thanks for your video, I really mean it.
I saw it during one of the hardest, most isolated periods of my art studies, and coming out of the cinema, my eyes went on leaking tears for ten good minutes. You described the parts of his character I identified with really well here. I don’t know if it helped much in the way you described, but it was certainly electrifying, the paradox of recognizing my own sense of isolation and pointlessness in a character like that.
Also the wondering if getting back up time after time is brave and resilient, or just cowardly procrastination. Likely both.
Anyways, thanks for reminding me of this beautiful film with its gorgeous photography and score.
One of my all time favorite movies. First song I learned by ear was far thee well the morning after I watched it. It came into my life at the exact right time.
Oscar Isaac is so beautiful
Damn right he is.
Dude! Amazing video. I have the same feelings for this remarkable film and it continues to help me cope with my own problems with depression. I am surprised at how much your insights mirror mine as well as your experience with depression and the struggle of artistic ambition at the sake of happiness.The first time I saw this film I too had no idea what it was about other than a folk singer and I like folk music. I found a character in Llewyn that I saw so much of myself in.
Ryan, I don't know how good your film making skills are but your editing techniques here are seamless and superb.
ive never seen a video with this like to dislike ratio. good job!
Loved this video. Defintely put my own plight into context. This is one of my favorite movies. Thanks for sharing yourself!
I love this actor. Im too worried about the cat to watch it.
Don’t worry, the cat is okay
My sadness is a part of me, like my creativity and my passion. I am not 'normal', I never will be...and I don't want to be.
I love this movie, and I loved this video. I’ve had similar feelings towards this movie, and I’m glad that somebody has finally made a video about this movie and it’s context. Thank you, Ryan
This was very moving. I should watch that movie sometime. These videos are just so...well spoken and I kinda resonated with this a little. Like with the part about thinking you're better than other people. I can totally get that.
Thank you for this.
ILD is my favourite movie, one that helps me breathe through the often overwhelming malaise of life. Im so happy you found similar beauty in it, and that it is likewise able to help you out. Best of luck man.
As a fellow artist, this movie is fucking painful. It really does make you feel vulnerable if you’ve become distant to the world. Llewyn is a deeply sympathetic figure, he’s a guy who’s lost himself because of his love for his passion. It’s a very personal movie for a lot of artists, especially when you face the inevitability of disillusionment of that artwork. It’s a great movie and I love it.
This was so well-crafted and articulate that I had to comment. I love that you bring a personal angle to the video essay! It resonated with me in a way I didn't expect from film analysis. Keep it up!
Thanks for the video bro!
art was never just for fun for me. when I was five I was diagnosed with brain swelling. I lost the ability to eat and walk. lack of food actually gave me anorexia later on. when I couldn't show my imagination in play I started making comics, but when I got better and kept making art to this day I convinced myself that illness and talent are one in the same. im scared of being happy because ill stop doing the one thing that helped me fight a illness that could of taken my life. I want to make movies.
I rarely comment on videos but I genuinely wanted to thank you for making this video. I had to pause a few times to groan/scream out of relatability/sympathy, frustration, epiphany etc
great video again. "Millenial Malaise" is a great way to describe the feelings of this generation. It's a reaction to a lie we've been told that hard work translates to success.
I think from watching this i might have to go back and re-watch it. I didn't appreciate this the first time round, found it to be distant and didnt like the central character, but watching this video has made me want to reavaluate this. Plus from what you have said i can relate to some of the feelings mentioned, and i have come out finding some of your remarks made towards the end of the video very inspiring and in a strange way something that i can take or find inspiraiton from. Great video.
Beautiful video man, thank you :D
One of my favorite movies, awesome video Ryan
Great memoir-ish analysis here. Gonna re-share this so that me and all my depression-afflicted friends can hear your experience.
Thanks 4 this. This analysis just made my day.
Thanks for sharing mate, have been going through a similar thing like you (except in reverse, I'm coming TO film-making after years of hating doing something else and hating I was failing at it and myself for hating it and so on) and I guess like Llewyn but I definitely don't remember this movie having such an impact on me when I watched it.
I watched this film because of this review. It’s now in my top 5 favourite films. What a gem of a film
Excellent video... When I saw this movie I liked it but didn't thought much about it. But with this video now I can watch it again with new eyes. I've been struggling with depression for over 20 years so I can resonate with the message here.... I'm still chasing the cat.
I just realized the saddest part. When Al Cody asks him if he wants to go to Chicago Llew says "i prefer newyork". fast forward, he "gives up" but Jean gets him one more chance to shine (and make a little dough). Llew needed $80 to get his seaman papers back and its safe to say after that gig he made the $80 and finally shipped out...only to come home one day and realized he literally just missed out on THE BOOM that Dylan and others catapulted into history. Just like always, Llew was SOOOOOO close. He literally glances at greatness. Seeing Dylan take the stage. He was THAT close!
Awesome Video Ryan! Much needed at the moment.
As an aspiring musician, no movie has really depressed me more than Inside Llewyn Davis. But as someone suffering from depression, I also found a kind of comfort in it.
I really appreciated this video. I am coming to the realization that the thing I have loved and have wanted to pursue for years, the thing that has kept me sane through years of depression and anxiety, is not making me happy now as I pursue it in college. How do you let go of a dream when it has defined your future for so long? What do I do now?
It's good to know I am not alone in this feeling, and that letting go of that dream won't be the end of my life or my world. Maybe it could even be a beginning for me.
Thank you Ryan.
This video came at a great time for me. I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow where I'll finally concede and admit that I need some help with my depression. This video just re-enforced that it's ok to do it.
Thank you for the video. It was Amazing!
I actually was/still in your place and literally the same thing happened to me. I watched it in a really hard time in my life and it helped me to bounce back and to make progress.
Love your work and keep up the amazing videos!
Amen. Thank you for sharing this.
This was great, thank you!
Inspiring! Hit the nail on the head with the description of depression. Thanks for your insight
Very well done, mate! I appreciate what you’ve said...
I actually legit cried at this. Llewyn Davis is the character I relate to most out of any medium so this hit way, way too close to home for me. Another excellent video, Ryan.