Easy explanation. "Revert" is when the skater slides a trick out on their wheels after already touching the ground ending in a full 360 rotation. "To fakie" is when the skater starts in their natural stance and lands their trick backwards without sliding it out on their wheels. These explanations can be applied to all of the tricks displayed in this video. (*One thing that is not mentioned here is the term "180 out" which is another way to describe a trick that has been landed as a 180 rotation from pop to ride-away.)
No. The "to fakie" in this video is referring the direction one rotates 180 coming out of a grinding, sliding or flying trick. It's the opposite direction one rotates coming out "revert". Going straight up and doing a trick "to fakie" (same name) and coming straight down is not what this video is about.
I always thought of anything where you slide to fakie as being a revert. And it doesn’t even have to be to fakie, it’s just a matter of changing direction via a 180 slide.
Noticed a lot of different definitions out there which motivated me to make this video about the origins of the trick and the correct definition and name.
I guess I’d never thought about it. I always thought of it as “revert” being when your wheels are actually on the surface and you slide the last 180, no matter which direction. If you did something “to fakie” I assumed you were off the ground and the last 180 took place in the air. Thanks for clarifying.
Yeah I see the confusion. Doing a trick straight up and down "to fakie" is a different conversation. This is about coming out of a sliding, grinding or flying trick and the direction of the rotation out being called "revert" or "to fakie" depending on the direction of the rotation out.
Maybe i´m old, i skated from 1986 until 1998 and just came back 3 years ago, but in all the trick examples, to me it was very obvious, which one was "to fakie" and which one was "revert".
Good explanation! I've had it all mixed up my entire life, haha, but I think that comes from starting out pretty much strictly street, and it seems the definitions got switched around a bit on street. Some in street skating culture have even totally switched the definition of something like a fakie back tail to being a frontside approach because they decided the backward sliding motion was more central to the trick than the approach, and although at one time I was totally against this, I actually agree with it nowadays. Don't do drugs, kids. But how would one even do a back tail to fakie on street by this proper definition displayed in this video? You'd have to 270 out the hard way. Revert was generally the harder way on vert, but it can often be the harder way on street, and I think that has a lot to do with why my later generation just took for granted that what you call a back tail revert is a back tail to fakie (at least on street). There's a few things I've noticed that don't exactly translate from transition to street, and reverts/fakie is one of them. Shit, can you imagine a fakie frontside flip on vert? That shit would be backside all day, and if you analyze why it gets pretty convoluted and you start to wonder what the fuck is even going on, but everybody knows exactly what you're talking about so fuck it.
Exacto. A frontside grind revert on a curb in the 80's was just that but somewhere along the way people started calling it "to fakie" when there is already a frontside grind to fakie...and its the opposite motion. So street, transition, the trick names were invented a long time ago and whoever wants to call them something else, all G but they are doing just that.
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My very favorite grind is the backside nosegrind revert. .. ya gotta lead with yer butt and bring it all the way around like doing a switch frontside kickturn (on the nose) in. Super hard to leave the lip with front wheels and revert on the face ~recipe for either a faceplant or a cracked coconut! Another trick kids miscall is the 5-0 grind... 5-0's ALWAYS BACKSIDE! I like to think it was named that because ya gotta haul ass to lock it in (run from the (Hawaii) 5-0, not related to the 50/50) whereas with a frontside stand-up grind, you can go pretty medium speed. AND FURTHERMORE . . lol ~It's called a nose-wheelie, kids. AND!! Jelly Mamba is not what's for breakfast. Cheers, TR, -RV.
@@RealSkateStories 5-0 goes way back and way front? we were talkin vert tho. street lingo got a little more universal. Salad tongs angle. Vinegar and speed cream
What I gathered is that neither are always possible. Kinda strange to call a front board to fakie on a flat bar a “front board revert” when there is no other natural way to end up rolling backwards. Pretty much kills the argument of reverts = effort, to fakie = natural.
Of course both are possible. Frontside boardslide to fakie is simple. Frontside boardslide revert definitely not a natural motion but the correct trick name remains.
This video is not about the definition of fakie. Its about coming out of a grinding, sliding or flying trick 180. Depending on the direction it's called "revert" or "to fakie". And if you come out of a trick rolling forward that is not a revert.
I always thought revert meant on a ramp and not in street skating. I can see what you’re saying. It might have changed over the years. I swear they changed things like backside boardslides. Didn’t it mean til he opposite in the 80s? You’re turning frontside so i don’t get where backside comes to play.
Revert is the same on street or transition, going back to the 80s to present day. Look at the current TH-cam video examples in this video guys doing rails, some correctly calling it and others calling the opposite. Thankfully a backside boardslide is and has always been a backside boardslide- never heard anyone get that one wrong.
A backside board slide on a ramp is a travelling rock and roll. A backside lipslide is still backside even though you are travelling similar to a Frontside board slide. It's what makes skateboarding amazing.
@@trsurfing so a nollie bs tail fakie is essentially a fs 270 out? must be a generational thing but i can't imagine ever calling it that. maybe THPS is to blame. i'll do an informal survey of local skaters of different ages and see if theres a pattern
@@mikelawrencesk8 Yes. And I agree, almost every video I watch these days skaters are calling "revert" "to fakie." I never played a video game- did they start calling it the opposite of what it is? That would explain a few things that have me baffled. Regardless, this video was made to explain the origins of the trick, what it is, and the original name. People are free to call it something else or change the name but they are doing just that.
No. The "to fakie" in this video is referring the direction one rotates 180 coming out of a grinding, sliding or flying trick. It's the opposite direction one rotates coming out "revert" and yes, both end up "going to fakie"
@@RealSkateStories Ok, fs 50 fs 180 off is revert and bs 180 off is to fakie. BUT what is a bs hurricane grind rrevert? On bs hurricane you can go off to fakie and normaly (fakie) bs 180 OR (fakie) fs 180 off.
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Easy explanation. "Revert" is when the skater slides a trick out on their wheels after already touching the ground ending in a full 360 rotation. "To fakie" is when the skater starts in their natural stance and lands their trick backwards without sliding it out on their wheels. These explanations can be applied to all of the tricks displayed in this video. (*One thing that is not mentioned here is the term "180 out" which is another way to describe a trick that has been landed as a 180 rotation from pop to ride-away.)
No. The "to fakie" in this video is referring the direction one rotates 180 coming out of a grinding, sliding or flying trick. It's the opposite direction one rotates coming out "revert". Going straight up and doing a trick "to fakie" (same name) and coming straight down is not what this video is about.
Agreed.
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Have skated since 83, old school terms are correct!
I always thought of anything where you slide to fakie as being a revert. And it doesn’t even have to be to fakie, it’s just a matter of changing direction via a 180 slide.
Noticed a lot of different definitions out there which motivated me to make this video about the origins of the trick and the correct definition and name.
I enjoyed landing certain tricks on mini ramp and street to revert, it felt more fluid.
I guess I’d never thought about it. I always thought of it as “revert” being when your wheels are actually on the surface and you slide the last 180, no matter which direction. If you did something “to fakie” I assumed you were off the ground and the last 180 took place in the air. Thanks for clarifying.
Thats how I thought of it
Yeah I see the confusion. Doing a trick straight up and down "to fakie" is a different conversation. This is about coming out of a sliding, grinding or flying trick and the direction of the rotation out being called "revert" or "to fakie" depending on the direction of the rotation out.
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Maybe i´m old, i skated from 1986 until 1998 and just came back 3 years ago, but in all the trick examples, to me it was very obvious, which one was "to fakie" and which one was "revert".
Good explanation! I've had it all mixed up my entire life, haha, but I think that comes from starting out pretty much strictly street, and it seems the definitions got switched around a bit on street. Some in street skating culture have even totally switched the definition of something like a fakie back tail to being a frontside approach because they decided the backward sliding motion was more central to the trick than the approach, and although at one time I was totally against this, I actually agree with it nowadays. Don't do drugs, kids. But how would one even do a back tail to fakie on street by this proper definition displayed in this video? You'd have to 270 out the hard way. Revert was generally the harder way on vert, but it can often be the harder way on street, and I think that has a lot to do with why my later generation just took for granted that what you call a back tail revert is a back tail to fakie (at least on street). There's a few things I've noticed that don't exactly translate from transition to street, and reverts/fakie is one of them. Shit, can you imagine a fakie frontside flip on vert? That shit would be backside all day, and if you analyze why it gets pretty convoluted and you start to wonder what the fuck is even going on, but everybody knows exactly what you're talking about so fuck it.
Exacto. A frontside grind revert on a curb in the 80's was just that but somewhere along the way people started calling it "to fakie" when there is already a frontside grind to fakie...and its the opposite motion. So street, transition, the trick names were invented a long time ago and whoever wants to call them something else, all G but they are doing just that.
Bert to reverts are the most fun trick to do on whatever surface, Larry Bertlemann was THE man.
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My very favorite grind is the backside nosegrind revert. .. ya gotta lead with yer butt and bring it all the way around like doing a switch frontside kickturn (on the nose) in. Super hard to leave the lip with front wheels and revert on the face ~recipe for either a faceplant or a cracked coconut! Another trick kids miscall is the 5-0 grind... 5-0's ALWAYS BACKSIDE! I like to think it was named that because ya gotta haul ass to lock it in (run from the (Hawaii) 5-0, not related to the 50/50) whereas with a frontside stand-up grind, you can go pretty medium speed. AND FURTHERMORE . . lol ~It's called a nose-wheelie, kids. AND!! Jelly Mamba is not what's for breakfast. Cheers, TR, -RV.
Love the b/s nosegrind revert! So Sick. 5-0 can definitely be f/s as well. Tweak it a bit and it's a salad!
@@RealSkateStories 5-0 goes way back and way front? we were talkin vert tho. street lingo got a little more universal. Salad tongs angle. Vinegar and speed cream
What I gathered is that neither are always possible. Kinda strange to call a front board to fakie on a flat bar a “front board revert” when there is no other natural way to end up rolling backwards. Pretty much kills the argument of reverts = effort, to fakie = natural.
Of course both are possible. Frontside boardslide to fakie is simple. Frontside boardslide revert definitely not a natural motion but the correct trick name remains.
fakie is a stance plus direction whereas revert is a maneuver, examples are flatbar boardslides to fakie, you can revert them to rolling forward
This video is not about the definition of fakie. Its about coming out of a grinding, sliding or flying trick 180. Depending on the direction it's called "revert" or "to fakie". And if you come out of a trick rolling forward that is not a revert.
I always thought revert was backside and to fakie was frontside
one can rotate "Revert" and "to fakie" out of grinding, sliding or flying tricks frontside and backside
I always thought revert meant on a ramp and not in street skating. I can see what you’re saying. It might have changed over the years. I swear they changed things like backside boardslides. Didn’t it mean til he opposite in the 80s? You’re turning frontside so i don’t get where backside comes to play.
Revert is the same on street or transition, going back to the 80s to present day. Look at the current TH-cam video examples in this video guys doing rails, some correctly calling it and others calling the opposite.
Thankfully a backside boardslide is and has always been a backside boardslide- never heard anyone get that one wrong.
A backside board slide on a ramp is a travelling rock and roll. A backside lipslide is still backside even though you are travelling similar to a Frontside board slide.
It's what makes skateboarding amazing.
just to be clear, you want people to refer to this 4:02 as a nollie bs tail revert?
people will call it what they will but yes, that is a nollie bs tail revert
@@RealSkateStories ok, does that mean there is a nollie bs tail fakie?
@@mikelawrencesk8 Yes. His shoulders would rotate clockwise out doing that to fakie.
@@trsurfing so a nollie bs tail fakie is essentially a fs 270 out? must be a generational thing but i can't imagine ever calling it that. maybe THPS is to blame. i'll do an informal survey of local skaters of different ages and see if theres a pattern
@@mikelawrencesk8 Yes. And I agree, almost every video I watch these days skaters are calling "revert" "to fakie." I never played a video game- did they start calling it the opposite of what it is? That would explain a few things that have me baffled.
Regardless, this video was made to explain the origins of the trick, what it is, and the original name. People are free to call it something else or change the name but they are doing just that.
reverts are when wheels touch surface, fakie is with ollie or air
Revert is the direction one rotates 180 out of a trick. To fakie in this context is rotating out the opposite direction.
Revert to fakie
LOL. "Backside frontside"
Revert is always to fakie. What is a fs lipslide revert? What to fakie. Think ypu mean fs or bs 18ü off.
No. The "to fakie" in this video is referring the direction one rotates 180 coming out of a grinding, sliding or flying trick. It's the opposite direction one rotates coming out "revert" and yes, both end up "going to fakie"
@@RealSkateStories Ok, fs 50 fs 180 off is revert and bs 180 off is to fakie. BUT what is a bs hurricane grind rrevert? On bs hurricane you can go off to fakie and normaly (fakie) bs 180 OR (fakie) fs 180 off.
@@Hokus4 A backside hurricane revert: come out of the b/s hurricane normal but keep rotating and b/s 180 slide out
@@RealSkateStories Fs k revert would be nice.
Revert is sliding to fakie. To fakie is landing fakie. It has nothing to do with being fs or bs
fakie is backward.
Obviously. The premise of this video is what the proper term is for over rotating 180 out of a trick or the opposite.
From what I gather from the video, a fakie is going backward, but how you get there is what changes it to a revert.
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Bullseye but vague I know.
Goes way beyond skateboarding. The English language as a whole is being bastardized.