As a muslim i believe there was no need for Allah from his perspective to create us he just did ,but when he did he put a reason for us to live which made life into an exam. If you quit it and blast your self you will fail and go to hell. You have to complete it. Some people say that religions were made by humans to escape the meaningless of life which is a good idea ,but islam is different. When you read Qur'an you will find some really good evidence like science fact that wasn't discovered by the time and that's a very strong evidence. Maybe if you do some research about it can help you.
@@mism847 define good life, Yes they could have a good life up until nearing end of life, whereby they suffer immense pain and immeasurable suffering that you wouldn't wish on anyone...is it still a good life at that point?...it's a bit of a gamble don't you think...
@RADIUMGLASS Your cousin's celebration of life bears so much meaning, and it's always a permanent solution to a temporary problem. When my cousin died, it was really hard, especially on all of us as well. After the first decade without him, I'd breakdown bawling for him, and I don't try to change things I don't have. I still think of him very often. Just because we don't enjoy our circumstancial consciousness now doesn't mean we can't change Be strong, aggressive, assertive, and be actionable! Keep your head up.
If I had a child then I would be forcing them into the type of life that they might eventually hate and want nothing to do with. And if an afterlife exists then I might be forcing them into an afterlife that they might eventually hate and want nothing to do with. And those are the reasons why I will never have children.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5yn we can't really know if they might or might not want to live,you only see the part which he hates it,what about the part if he loves it,not to mention that if everyone thought in the same you are doing, humanity will come to an end eventually
@@bibauu it's evil to take the risk on someone elses behalf to force them into the type of existence that they might hate to exist in. And if they don't ever exist then that's not bad because they can't be harmed if they don't exist.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5yn and they cant be happy if they dont exist ? Also it's not evil to give life. Let's say for example you have a bad life,your children may grow up and change their lives for better so they their children will have a good life. One more thing ,if you simply decide to not start life you are simply depriving someone in the upcoming family tree from having the chance to have a good life
It depends on your prospects in life: if the outlook is very grim and utterly hopeless in the sense that someone is dealing with incurable physical or psychological conditions or even something else like severe financial problems or drug addiction I can't blame people for taking their own lives, we can only be so strong when all is said and done. I don't condone it but certainly don't condemn it either because life is extremely difficult and painful for so many people. The world has it's beautiful aspects but a lot of miserable heartbreaking aspects as well.
It’s not worth it. I intend to apply for medical assistance in dying when it opens up for people will mental illnesses in March. I think the longest period of remission I have had from my bipolar is about 3 months and I spend the majority of my time in depression. I gave it 2 decades of trying medication, treatments like ECT, rTMS, Ketamine and psychotherapy. I feel like Sisyphus except it’s not like I kidnapped Thanatos, so I really don’t know how I pissed off the Gods.
@@mitch5222Not good obviously, what do you think?! Life is one sick game that is constructed by the most evil malevolent sadistic force that gorges on each being’s suffering. This life is shit. Some of these questions are so STUPID!
I’ve been at my worst recently, have been struggling to access compassionate care, and I love seeing your kind face and hearing your gentle and thoughtful comments. Thank you so much for. You give me hope
I agree. This is the first video of his that I've seen. The healing that comes when a doctor stops being a "doctor" for just a moment and speaks to us as one human to another is so incredibly therapeutic, so healing. I honestly hunger for videos like this. Thank you so much.
@@anatman6304 if you’re struggling, watch more. His videos have helped me a lot. I managed to stand up for myself and refuse to return to the psychiatrist who absolutely horrible to me because his videos helped me see I deserve better. It felt so good to say “I still really need help, but no one has the right to talk to me the way she did” when her office called to re-schedule. I do still need a doctor to help me figure out my meds, but I took back the self-esteem that was never hers to trample on.
I suffer from severe C-PTSD & Dissociative Identity Disorder along with Major Depressive Disorder & mild OCD (checking). I have a lot of suffering from flashbacks & abreactions that often resemble seizures. Other systems also make life very hard. Suicidal thoughts & feeling come up for me as a type of flashback & needing to escape my suffering. Therapy is very expensive & I can't go as frequently as I need even though I'm working. My mother died a few years ago & my father in 1993. I'm an only child with no family. Life is tough. Often I think I can't go on like this anymore. It's too much of a struggle. I also have severe asthma & life-threatening food & drug allergies & hypertension. It's too much to cope with alone. It makes life not worth living.
If life is obviously worth living and therapy can help a person to realize that, then why do so many therapists never train to help people who have suicidal ideation? Why would a person be accredited in therapy or an academic course be approved that means to never help people with ideation? How is dying bad for you? If the badness of a person's life has overwhelmed them, how is it ethical to torture them with guilt and with obligation to continue to suffer?
Thank you for raising these important questions. In my experience many people, who have had suicidal thoughts, feel much better at a later time. Peter Goertz
Granted. But if it is given that that it is worthwhile to choose to live, how does not helping suicidal people make a good therapist? How is the therapist not training to help people to see that life is worthwhile not a tacit confession that the therapist is avoiding thinking about life being worthwhile because they also know that lving is not worthwhile? @@goertzpsychiatry9340
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 So what? Not everyone follows your same worldview. Not everyone wants to live a life that's mostly suffering with only a few good years, even if it's "at a later time". Why did you not answer the question: How is dying bad for you?
I think many people who work in mental health aren’t trained well or maybe loose the ability to be compassionate. It’s a huge shame. I have found over and over again that I get turned away when I’m at my worst, and that leads to more despair. I hid my suicidality for decades. When I finally tried to tell a psychiatrist, I was repeatedly turned away and treated like I was attention seeking. It’s pretty rare that talking about it actually leads to any help. In many ways it feels like keeping it inside is better. Because telling the wrong person makes it so much worse.
I have been struggling day in and day out to work, and looking for something that makes me want to continue living. For the past few months, I have been falling in love with something that I have ignored for years. It gives me purpose to push through my stressful job because one day, I could get out of there and pursue what I desire. I have shared that with my loved ones, but they think it will not help anyone. They think that I would just be wasting money and time. I understand that we are not rich. That is why they reacted that way. However, I do not wish to continue living and working just for the money. It kills parts of me every day. What really saddens me is that they know my mental struggles and that if I have something that makes me happy, it keeps me away from negative thoughts that have already destroyed me in the past. I just wanna live my life with happiness while working and helping them. This spiraled really negatively and now I don't feel like doing anything. I am crawling my way into work and trying my best not to break down. I hope life truly is worth living.
One perspective that has helped me a little bit recently is to accept mystery - accept that there is no way for us to know why we exist or if there even is a purpose. When I am able to remind myself of this, my attention seems to refocus on what needs to be done right here and right now. Like the dog needing to be taken for a walk. Needing to go to work. And like remembering that as insignificant as it is, I really do like feeling the warmth of the morning sun and the green on all the trees. It doesn't always work though. BTW, for context - I am a person who has suffered with treatment-resistant major depression, OCD and GAD for over 35 years. Hardly a day has gone by in all that time that I did not say to myself that I don't want to be here. I don't want to be here bc I want the pain to stop - sometimes even psychogenic pain. I don't want to be here bc my limbs are pinned to my bed by leaden paralysis. I am never not depressed, but I do have better days than this. I just need to ride it out and try the tools I've learned that have helped me in the past. Remembering to say to myself "remember the tools" is hard. As is, holding off on believing things are as bad as they are until I try some of my tools.
thats what living means. Dont hold yourself to the impossible standards of society. It will leave you depressed and lonely for trying to do something you don't truly want. Find whatever little thing or interest that you have and hold into it because that is worth so much.
Thank you, i am very depressed right now and seeing life in this way like a giant school really helps me. I actually used to think this way, but thoughts like these don't cross your mind too often, when you're very depressed. So thx for the lil reminder! ❤
The problem is as a mental health professional you are forced by the constitution to be pro-life. If you don't oblige, you risk losing your license. If a patient has no interest in continuing to exist, it is the mental health professional and the government that takes the position as the arbiter of what is subjectively good or bad for the individual that is suffering. I feel it is a bit sanctimonious.
27 years old. Long story short, currently 3 years into working heavy equipment, earth movers specifically. Pay is terrible (less than $1 raise every year from $17.50) the work is interesting though. Haven’t spent time with friends in over a year in a half, but haven’t been in jail in almost 6 years. Currently living with my dad since December 27th, which is tough because my (second) stepmom is cold and mean even though I try to stay out of her way, and my dad himself was physically (hit, throw, kick), sexually (you’ll see), emotionally (told my the only reason I was born my mom was on firtility pills; when I was 15 said I’m the reason his life is shitty) abusive and likes to ‘forget’ about a lot of the bad things he has done even when others like my sister corroborate that he’s misremembering. I try to keep my distance from my dad but it’s thought because he comes to me, the economy is fucked I can’t move out unless it’s into my car. Moms a drunk on full VA disability because of when my dad beat her in a base and her new husband is also on full VA disability and they both drink while he chain smokes and makes the house gross. My mom says she’s the only one that cleans and does stuff which is true but she’s hammered by 9am every day. She even said I might need to move in to help and I basically was like no i can’t even figure out my life so I’m sorry but I can’t help with yours..I’m never gonna own a home, never gonna have a wife, or probably even another friend. Never gonna have a kid or even attempt to accomplish my dreams because I can’t afford to. So why the fuck am I here? So my mom and sister aren’t sad for a couple days? If anyone’s selfish it’s them for making me live me terrible existence 24/7 just so they won’t be sad for a little bit..
Dad molested me with first stepmom when I was 9..held me down and str!pped me before making fun of my prepubescent pen!s for being small and I just screamed ‘no’ and don’t remember much else from that day other than that was right after I got home from school and they wanted me to change clothes for a church thing called Wednesday night live.. a few months later, and a few weeks before my 10th birthday, they ripped me from my reality, family, and friends and put me in a boarding school called epworth village which has significantly decreased in size since 2007 due to all the abuse and reported accusations. My grandma fairly recently pointed out that she wasn’t allowed to see me for 2 years even though she said her and my late grandpa had no problems with me and wanted me to live with them before going to boarding school..my life has no purpose and I’ve spent so much time miserable that unless my life does a 180 and I’m super happy and successful in a year and forever until I die then I want to be gone asap
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. Thank you for sharing this. In my opinion and experience people in your kind of situation can feel much better over time, and enjoy their life. Psychotherapy can help. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
My story goes back too far to tell why and how I chose to live out my life. Many years of seeking, my purpose was revealed and I have always considered the darkest times of depression my greatest opportunities to grow and learn what I can, because they have given me wisdom, humility, compassion and insight. Unfortunately I am struggling long term traumas and loss, and the difficulty of finding my way back to living, rather than existing in my daily pain alone. But i do believe i am here to contribute, and unwilling to give up on that, even against all odds.
Some people are definitely better than others. The fact that the majority of people have at least been on a date proves that I’m lesser than them. I’m over 30 and have never even been worth taking advantage of for a free meal. Don’t tell me that we’re equal when I’m worse than you in every measurable way.
Thank you for your comment. In my opinion we are all human beings with problems, and nobody is better than anybody else. I hope, that you will soon be able to see yourself more positively. Peter Goertz
You may be insane then. What are sport’s scores, school grades and hierarchies for if not to determine who’s better than whom? All people of course have equal dignity. That is made clear by the fact that we all share a common human nature. That is on the immaterial level. On the material level everyone is different and better or worse in immediate and obvious ways. As a psychologist I hope you hold for the existence of the soul. But the soul is not all there is or the only measure of a person.
I don't have this issue, but I have a friend who is living very close to the edge. He tried to end his life last year by overdosing on some pills. After this incident he was hospitalized for 3 months and had therapy, but I think that didn't work. His outlook on life did not change and he is getting worse and worse as time passes - asking the is life worth living question more and more. We have talked with him many times and I think I know why he is doing it, but not sure how to help him :( He had a very strong and capable father who he idolized and in the last few years he started thinking he let him down. Now he is already in his 40s, has no financial issues, has a great job, but no matter how hard he tried he couldn't find a partner. The idea of family is super important to him and I think he feels that he let his father down by not having a loving wife and children by now. He is not religious but has a firm belief that by not having children all his ancestors lives are rendered meaningless, which sucks, since based on that logic he is the one who invalidates their lives by not continuing their legacy. We have tried to challenge this thinking to encourage him to find other meaning in his life or look at it in a different way but we either couldn't get through or just pissed him off. We also have tried to hook him up with girls many times - to fix the not having a family and children issue - but he couldn't succeed making a relationship work. He might have some trust issues with woman, because his mother cheated on his father which broke the old man and their family fell apart ending in his father withering away in pain. His mother is still alive and tries to contact him time to time - to leech some money off him - which further reinforces his idea of "woman not being trustworthy and only out to use and abuse him". Truth be told, most people in our friends group think that his mother is a woman with dubious character and not a very good influence on him. As his friend what can we do to help? I think if things continue the way they are he will probably try something stupid again.
Thank you for sharing this. If your friend has suicidal thoughts, he needs to go to an emergency room. From what you are describing it seems that your friend might benefit from psychotherapy with a psychotherapist whom he trusts, and from seeing a psychiatrist whom he trusts. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 Thanks for the response. The only worry I have is that pushing him towards therapy might piss him off. Last year a friend of ours found him when he tried to end his life and since he was hospitalized for 3 month he blames him for that and cut all connection to that person - blocked him, and doesn't want to do anything with him. He has a very strong sense of justice and I am sure that if we tried to push for therapy against his will he might consider that as an act of betrayal and cut us off, which would probably make things worse, since now at least he still has some friends he can talk to. I think he is living in an idealized world that clashes with the real one and he just cannot accept reality - at least this is what the last therapist told us, but when they got into an argument he stopped going and decided that that person is manipulative and betrayed his trust. The whole situation is f*cked up - sorry for the expression, but I don't have a better word to describe it. Anyways, we'll see what we can do to find a therapist for him.
I’d like to hear your opinion on euthanasia due to psychiatric conditions. It’s illegal here in the us but it’s available in places like Canada and the Netherlands
@@humancapybaras1301 I must confess I felt the same way 8ish months ago. I took myself to the emergency room and told all the doctors there of my desires instead. This eventually brought me to an acute inpatient psychiatric facility, where I told the attending psychiatrist of my plans for assisted suicide. He wasnt very happy with that, to say the least. I would recommend inpatient treatment/hospitalization as the next step for you, as it sounds like youve been experiencing suicidal ideation for quite some time. Since you are not actively suicidal, only passively, meaning you are not currently in the process of attempting to kill yourself, it is not a medical emergency. If you feel the desire to pursue your goals in this context please go to the nearest emergency room or call 911
@@humancapybaras1301 I respect the right to end ones own life. After my grandfathers wife of 50 years passed away, he no longer had a desire to live anymore. I eventually stopped preparing his blood pressure medications for him. He still had them, but chose not to take them. His daughter was also in prison at the time. I spent every single moment of every day with him for many years, & I know he still loved me. But, at 72, there was not much left that made him happy, other than his wife. So, he joined her. & I have to respect that decision as I am the one that allowed it to happen It still bothers me a great deal & it always will, as hes the only person I ever really cared about. Whatever happens to you, dont let it impact anyone else
Thank you so much for your content Sir. I have been in a dark place from quite awhile and I have been asking these questions myself. I am trying to push it to through but at times I do feel like there's nothing that's gonna help.
Thank you for your personal comment Maninder. I hope things improve for you soon. I you feel that you might do something to harm yourself, please go to an emergency room. Peter Goertz
@@reddbendd haha why do 'you' care..? Or are you just repeating automatic responses that emerge from the herd mentality, hive mind collective conscious regurgitate?...Who says you must live or survive.?
Why 18 y/o boy life is full of pain? Why i need to face this much financial crisis ? Why i need to live ? Is it worth living this life? After these much trauma mental depression, my mental peace is ruined. How my upcoming days are gonna be with this shattered mindset. Idk. This situation should never happen to anyone!
My idea about meaning of life is, that one can always find excuse to complain. And one can always find excuse not to surrender and keep fighting on. Its ironic how some people despite having all give up so easy, while others being as poor and miserable as possible, fight to the bitter end. History is full of events were people are starving and freezing, but despite all the bad still cling on to whatever they can.
yes every soul came here for the development of soul growth to learn lessons everything in life is preconceived if it wasn't written in the divine plan it not happening you mapped your whole life out from start to end right down to every last detail even your death is plana and the cause of death life is synchronized
What if living means living with spine pain, hip pain and leg pain that started when I was still in high school and only gotten worse since then. I'm 41 now. I was walking with a cane and able to drive working as a speed courier until I got rear ended at a red light that put me in a wheelchair 3 years ago. I Loved driving, it was all I could do without causing too much pain, I took pride in my skills of dodging so many crashes daily and putting down over 300 to 400 miles a day for 4 day a week and getting my delivery done as fast as I could, I was over skilled and way under paid but the money wasn't even enough to live on even while living in my parent's basement. Now It hurts like my spine is being crushed with each bump. My life just keeps getting worse and everything I do to try and get help or better, I fail. I don't just fail, I REALLY FAIL! I can't get any help from a doctor anymore, I was back in 2013 until I caught the "Doctor STEALING my Pills" while doing the pill counts and was cut off cold turkey in 2015! Ever since, I can't even see a pain doctor. I guess I should have just let them keep taking my meds because me saying just one thing about it and bam, I was pushed out of that office and told they would call the cops if I ever came back! So the only reason I'm still alive is because I have some older ladies that I would give ride to the doctor and once they found out how I was done, they started sharing some of their pain meds with me. Sadly, 2 of them past away and another had a stroke and was put in a nursing home. So now I'm don't to breaking one pill in half, one for when I have to get dressed and the other for bed. It's not enough but as of now, that's my only way of dealing with my constant pain. You made some good points but you haven't been where people like me have, its HELL, and once you live through hell, then you would understand better! Some like me, would rather take themselves out over letting the pain drive them mad and lead them to causing harm to others. I know too many ways to do harm so if I start seeing signs that I'm close to my breaking point, I have to turn myself in to a mental hospital.... Big issue with that is, they let me suffer even more and pump me full of meds that keep me docile but do nothing for my pain. They do the "lets see how bad he gets before we do anything" system of making me suffer with pain, depression and withdrawals! Sounds like a fun time huh? No doc, I wish you could understand what we are going through but until you have suffered too long, lost all hope and then get lied to by a doctor saying they will help you just to take your money and tell you "you can't have pain meds, you are in too much pain, here take this antidepressant! Then you will be able to help those people better. What to speak with me before I go back to the mental jail? Message me soon!
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. Thank you for sharing this. I hope things improve for you soon. In general acupuncture can help with pain. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 you didn't even read what I was saying. just like all doctors, you don't seem to care about what suffering is to a person that has suffered too many years of their life away For No REASON! Doctors are just as bad as lawyers, you get rich off other's suffering from a Broken system! You only help reinforce my mistrust of "doctors"
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 This is why I do not trust "doctors" all they want is to lock me up, not help me from what is the real issue, chronic pain that has taken my whole life and wasted it! You didn't even read my words did you? I can't get help from a hospital, they don't see my pain as Life Threating so they send me home in the same shape I came in. If I go to a mental hospital, they WILL NOT GIVE ME ANYTHING FOR MY PAIN! NOTHING! They do the "lets see how bad he gets game" and I have to ACT like I'm better before they let me out. NEVER AGAIN! Just tell me to eat crap next time!
Nice tone of voice... and that's it because the whole thing has COMPLETELY no resemblance to reality. When you are born sick. When you have not one but two chronic diseases (incurable, fatal). When life is (despite all the fears and struggles) a series of failures. When you have no one else to turn to... When life is nothing but pain, suffering and futility... it begins to dawn on you that life is worth nothing but 💩 and suicide (in such circumstances) becomes the "emergency exit".
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 Thank you for your concern. No, I don't have it at the moment and I don't intend to. I didn't want to upset, but rather present a different point of view (more real and, unfortunately, ugly, which, however, is much more common among people).👍
When i watched my grandma slowly deteriorate and suffer everyday until she died is when i began to question if its really worth it, your body slowly fails you and rot to the point it becomes your own prison is the disturbing part. I felt dead inside always and even if i were given billions id still be dead inside, sure id spend money on what i want but then eventually i wouldnt know what to do with it and I'd still feel dead inside, plus nobody will be genuine around me.
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. In my opinion there is room for other perspectives than the perspective you expressed. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
cause life was much better than it is now we were more happier and more fun important this days people mis behaive they treating u like were somekinda animals
Doctor,after severe ptsd I lost my will to live.Do you think there is hope for me and how can I find it back? My doc doesn't answer on this when I ask.
Hi Ann, In my opinion there is hope for anyone. I used to work in a VA clinic with many Vietnam combat veterans with PTSD. Various kinds of treatment can help PTSD. Peter Goertz
as someone nihilist and deist. i don't believe in afterlife and i have lost my faith in my religion (islam), and now the idea of suiciding grows. i don't want to live this life. it's just what it is, i can't say i have family problems or i was traumatised or anything. i'm just done i can't visualize something on earth that makes me happy.
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 My point was to say that i don't want to live this life. i don't have any mental disorder or anything, i just don't want to live this life. i don't think theraoy would be helpful.
Hey, I would like to ask you why did you become a psychiatrist? Did you feel like "hmm, this sounds interesting"? Was it your dream? Maybe you didn't find it interesting but you were good at it? Or was it for money? Did anyone force you? I'm new so I don't know whether you have already mentioned this information on your channel. Another question, can I become one while being an egoist and lacking empathy (I suspect the reason is a mix of depression and being a teen, hopefully not a long-term problem) but still being able to understand other people? For a long time my dream was to get accepted into a good high school which I managed to accomplish but then I realized I didn't know how to continue in life which made me develop extreme emptiness, laziness and I felt like I was the only one left behind while everyone else continued to pursue their dreams. Fortunatelly, not a long time ago I discovered my interest in this specific topic and my grades have gone up , I actually do some research regarding psychiatry and I feel alive again. However I don't know if this profession is fit for someone like me. Could you give me an *honest* opinion, please?
You’re not gonna know whether you w joy working in psych or not until you get experience. Also, some people prefer inpatient (higher acuity) vs outpatient (generally more stable patients) it’s a great idea to Shadow a psych RN if you can, or get a job as a psychiatric technician. This will expose you to patients.
Peter became a psychiatrist because he enjoys talking to people and he learns from them. I’m sure there are other reasons but it’s also good money. You could make $350-550,000/yr and similar salary as a psychiatric nurse practitioner (phmnp)
You really need to decide whether $200,000 of debt for medical school is the right choice for you. PMHNPs have the same privileges as a psychiatrist, with half the time spent in school and almost all of the salary
Psychiatry is a skill, so I would have to say he’s probably good at it considering he’s not accepting any new patients currently. I would recommend you research cognitive and affective perspective-taking. People usually refer to this as empathy, but it’s a much deeper connection when you can actually make inferences on what the person is thinking compared to what they’re feeling. It’s basically mind reading, which I have been practicing for a long time. I met a lot of people at the locked psych ward, and none of them liked talking to their doctors or therapists. They were all quite shit, imo. However I’ve been talking to the patients frequently and they seem to be improving. Al thought I am not a professional, I am just able to understand what they’re going through and read their minds a little bit sometimes
Again I’m gonna recommend you become a mental health technician & get some experience before you decide this is the field you wanna work in. You can also ask to be voluntarily admitted into an inpatient psychiatric unit. Behavioral health is usually working with patients who are more rambunctious than mental health. I prefer interacting with patients who are suicidal because they don’t want to hurt anyone. There’s lots for you to learn here and it’s important to find your niche
I want it to be worth living, but it's not fair. How come everybody else gets their lights at the end of their tunnels while mine is closed at both ends? I'm stuck in a stone coffin, and nobody is coming to get me out.
It's not worth for me. Living life over and over. Will having a goal change it? . Because i want to visit so many places in the world. But does it change anything. I don't know. I breathe in and out , sleep and wake , eat , all the days . Cry , smile , laugh , express, do everything. But at the end we know its death . What is after death . Is it nothing? then its good
It would appear to me that life is about meaning. If they have meaning, then people can endure any hardship. But if you don't, then almost any luxury or comfort cannot give you satisfaction. The fact is, each person's soul is a unique concoction, made by God (if you will). But in this world, very very few people are able to find a way in which that uniqueness can co-exist with their life struggle here. That leaves most of us questioning whether we need to be here at all. If anyone could live my life, do my job, make a family, then what's the point of having ME do it? This is why we revere famous athletes, celebs, actors, etc. Because they have made something and do something that could only have been done by them. There is only one Angelina Jolie, or Lebron James or Eddie Van Halen. The rest of us feel quite interchangeable and pointless. This is where, in my opinion, one begins to question why we are alive at all. And I think that questioning is entirely natural and understandable. The only anwer any religion has is that God is mysterious. That doesn't really do it for me. Perhaps it does for some others.
I dont look to others as special or unique, i believe we all have the ability to live lives worth living by being exactly who we are, finding our innermost reason for continuing. It is a struggle for all of us to find that within.
what's the point to learn (suffer) a lot to finally not having any benefit from it ??? of course, as a psychiatrist you can't be against suicide. but what kills me the most, is when you include god at the end ... man, that wasn't a good idea, trust me ! you f.up your whole video with that s...t
I noticed you referred to anyone discussing the 's' word as patients? How do you arrive at this label? Why is it so taboo to discuss these matters intelligently without people with false optimism gas lighting and shaming anyone with a more enhanced view of what it means to be "alive", and a difference of opinion.. . , The problem with anyone who operates in any Medical setting, is that they have no background in theology, philosophy, theosophy, or applied ethics. So they are in no position and are thus unable to offer a proper informed objective perspective..All current practices are founded in error and flawed logic, based on only assumptions. Monkeys trying to control other monkeys is rather funny. How many humans can answer the following:- 1 Do you do remember anything before you were born? Where do we get the notion that this is life, when you are dying/decaying via entropy from the moment you are "born"? 2 Who are? 3.Where are we? 4.When are we? 5.What are we? 6.Define life, Define death 7.What happens after we depart this body? It seems to me, that no one that i have ever met can answer any of these questions and have no authority to offer any advice to anyone. We run around repeating cliches and affirmations without knowing their true origins. From my experience the person sitting in their chair in a first world country has difficulty looking past their comfortable lives with a limited perspective on just how painful and difficult life really is...with 10,000 disease for humans alone..normal?..i'd say something is out of balance. Few people possess critical thinking and follow along with the bandwagon fallacy, again based on an error-in reasoning, assumptions, and faulty or no ethical insight, i.e Current ethics are based on a projection on profit and how good of a human resource one can be, how much you might consume.... Yes just because a 7 billion people suffer from psychosis, indeed does not make it normal.. (it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society, culture or world) - Krishnamurti.
I think there's ultimately a purpose and whatnot and that it is worth living, but it's beyond us either at the moment or always. If you go back to the start of how does anything exist, it's ridiculous and impossible that any of it does - IMO I'm not religious but I think there's a creator of some sort, and that there's some ultimate thing this is all for - and beyond that, scaling back down to reality, forget all of the above stuff and just think, there are things you/I like doing and gravitate towards like our minds pull us to them, follow them, do your best, enjoy life etc, and maybe find out what's up with it all afterwards lol.
Please let me share my point of veiw . When you tknow the only true purpose for which this whole life was created and whole creation was designed , then we will find meaning , peace, and purpose. we can not find that unless we read God's last book that was revealed to humanity through the last prophet Mohammad Pesce be upon him. It is the book The Quran " in which you will fiind answers for all your questions about this life and the what came before and what will come after. in this book God speaks Himself.
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 what a wretchedly irresponsible answer. Did you know that emergancy room visits increasw the odds of the person killing themselves? Are you a licensed therapist???
fpr does who are depressed no lets be greatful and be happy F them who dont bealive in me we also been in jails i been true hell we also grow up this is how unbalance life is lets put negativety alone concetrate on ur own goal and realety focus kiss ur love ones tell them we love u hate is awful hate give u us nothing but hate jesus didnt plan that humans its just u are not having a good day its all but sun will come
Life doesnt know the meaning of "worth", at least not in the philosophical sense. So in that case no it is not. But life and in our case our existance is not about whether we like it or not. Whether it is worth it or not. Of course it is not, because it does not matter at all. If it is worth or not. You live for whatever reason, let it be just chance or fate. You are alive and now you have to deal with it no matter the worth. You were given this existance and you cannot sell it. Life has no value per se, its an unchangable fact. It is or it isnt. Either you can enjoy it or you cannot. There is absolutely no worth to it. If you are lucky you can like it and if not well... then bad luck for you :D . Life is literally more like a bitch as they say :D
Thank you for your personal comment. Please see a psychotherapist and a psychiatrist. If you are thinking about killing yourself, please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 I really do too. I just don't have many outlets, I have tried websites like Beyond Blue and I'm at the point where there's nothing else to turn to. I hate how people always want to recommend medications, I don't see why talking therapy can't be as viable. I've always had the belief if someone was homeless would giving them a anti depressant pill really change how they should feel.
Hi Sterling, I’m sorry to hear about your situation. If you have suicidal thoughts please go to an emergency room. Acupuncture can help with pain. Peter Goertz
Hi Jimmy, I am sorry to hear this. Please see a mental health professional as soon as possible. If you think of suicide, please go to an emergency room. I hope that things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 This is nothing to do with mental health, Don't you think billions of people suffering form similar related existential dilemmas, that there might just be something wrong with this world,?..that just maybe it's not humans that are the problem,..That this world was designed to be for suffering..?.Your point blank denial is astounding, and why do you feel sorry for him and not the world..i didn't design this world, neither did Jimmy there so, it's not "our" problem...right?
Life is worth living because life is sanity. Life is the opposite of madness, and it’s the opposite of chaos. Life is not scary and the world isn’t scary either.
Life is hard so what, why is everyone in this comment section so afraid of suffering. You’ll find meaning in your life through suffering and it’s not like you’re being forced to live
Short answer... no. long answer... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. LIfe is 100% not worth it.
For me it isn't. Doing this over and over everyday until I'm too old to continue doesn't sound appealing. It's tiring
Hi Sarah, I’m sorry to hear this. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
Same 🫤
I feel you and I’m sorry. Some days are ok but it’s just tiring and for what end goal
As a muslim i believe there was no need for Allah from his perspective to create us he just did ,but when he did he put a reason for us to live which made life into an exam. If you quit it and blast your self you will fail and go to hell. You have to complete it. Some people say that religions were made by humans to escape the meaningless of life which is a good idea ,but islam is different. When you read Qur'an you will find some really good evidence like science fact that wasn't discovered by the time and that's a very strong evidence. Maybe if you do some research about it can help you.
No, it is not. Every day is a struggle. Nothing can change that.
brutal
So what
As corny as it sounds It doesn't get easier or better and YOU ARE ACTUALLY ALONE
It is worth living, when you're already in it. It isn't worth starting however.
Yup…
If the child is more likely to live a good life, it is worth it.
couldn't have said it better myself 👏👏
@@mism847 define good life, Yes they could have a good life up until nearing end of life, whereby they suffer immense pain and immeasurable suffering that you wouldn't wish on anyone...is it still a good life at that point?...it's a bit of a gamble don't you think...
True. I'm never having kids.
The most peaceful time of our lives is when we sleep .
Existence is living God's dream. Death is our dream 🙏
My cousin died from suicide last year. If life was worth living something could have changed his mind.
I am sorry to hear this.
He had issues.
@RADIUMGLASS
Your cousin's celebration of life bears so much meaning, and it's always a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
When my cousin died, it was really hard, especially on all of us as well. After the first decade without him, I'd breakdown bawling for him, and I don't try to change things I don't have. I still think of him very often.
Just because we don't enjoy our circumstancial consciousness now doesn't mean we can't change
Be strong, aggressive, assertive, and be actionable! Keep your head up.
@@treehopperwhat if some people are too far gone to change. A lot of us have been dead for a long time and our bodies are just still here
If I had a child then I would be forcing them into the type of life that they might eventually hate and want nothing to do with.
And if an afterlife exists then I might be forcing them into an afterlife that they might eventually hate and want nothing to do with.
And those are the reasons why I will never have children.
Nonsense 😂
@@bibauu it is evil for anyone to force someone into the type of existence that they might hate to exist in.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5yn we can't really know if they might or might not want to live,you only see the part which he hates it,what about the part if he loves it,not to mention that if everyone thought in the same you are doing, humanity will come to an end eventually
@@bibauu it's evil to take the risk on someone elses behalf to force them into the type of existence that they might hate to exist in. And if they don't ever exist then that's not bad because they can't be harmed if they don't exist.
@@AnonymousWon-uu5yn and they cant be happy if they dont exist ? Also it's not evil to give life. Let's say for example you have a bad life,your children may grow up and change their lives for better so they their children will have a good life. One more thing ,if you simply decide to not start life you are simply depriving someone in the upcoming family tree from having the chance to have a good life
It depends on your prospects in life: if the outlook is very grim and utterly hopeless in the sense that someone is dealing with incurable physical or psychological conditions or even something else like severe financial problems or drug addiction I can't blame people for taking their own lives, we can only be so strong when all is said and done. I don't condone it but certainly don't condemn it either because life is extremely difficult and painful for so many people. The world has it's beautiful aspects but a lot of miserable heartbreaking aspects as well.
Thank you for your input regarding this. Peter Goertz
Well said
It’s not worth it. I intend to apply for medical assistance in dying when it opens up for people will mental illnesses in March. I think the longest period of remission I have had from my bipolar is about 3 months and I spend the majority of my time in depression. I gave it 2 decades of trying medication, treatments like ECT, rTMS, Ketamine and psychotherapy. I feel like Sisyphus except it’s not like I kidnapped Thanatos, so I really don’t know how I pissed off the Gods.
How are u?
@@mitch5222Not good obviously, what do you think?! Life is one sick game that is constructed by the most evil malevolent sadistic force that gorges on each being’s suffering. This life is shit. Some of these questions are so STUPID!
@@billy4294 u are right
Hope you’re still with us.
Is the medical assistance for dying open for Mental illness? Is this the UK? Or where is it?
I’ve been at my worst recently, have been struggling to access compassionate care, and I love seeing your kind face and hearing your gentle and thoughtful comments. Thank you so much for. You give me hope
I am sorry to hear how you are feeling. I hope things improve for you soon. Thank you for your kind words.
I have and feel same.
I agree. This is the first video of his that I've seen. The healing that comes when a doctor stops being a "doctor" for just a moment and speaks to us as one human to another is so incredibly therapeutic, so healing. I honestly hunger for videos like this. Thank you so much.
@@anatman6304 if you’re struggling, watch more. His videos have helped me a lot. I managed to stand up for myself and refuse to return to the psychiatrist who absolutely horrible to me because his videos helped me see I deserve better. It felt so good to say “I still really need help, but no one has the right to talk to me the way she did” when her office called to re-schedule. I do still need a doctor to help me figure out my meds, but I took back the self-esteem that was never hers to trample on.
I suffer from severe C-PTSD & Dissociative Identity Disorder along with Major Depressive Disorder & mild OCD (checking). I have a lot of suffering from flashbacks & abreactions that often resemble seizures. Other systems also make life very hard. Suicidal thoughts & feeling come up for me as a type of flashback & needing to escape my suffering. Therapy is very expensive & I can't go as frequently as I need even though I'm working. My mother died a few years ago & my father in 1993. I'm an only child with no family. Life is tough. Often I think I can't go on like this anymore. It's too much of a struggle. I also have severe asthma & life-threatening food & drug allergies & hypertension. It's too much to cope with alone. It makes life not worth living.
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. Thank you for sharing this. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
When someone says life is learning experience
I see it as your studying for math exam but you dont have or need to give any math exam.
Thank you for your input. Peter Goertz
It's like studying your whole life just to die and and never take the test.
In my personal opinion it's not.
If life is obviously worth living and therapy can help a person to realize that, then why do so many therapists never train to help people who have suicidal ideation? Why would a person be accredited in therapy or an academic course be approved that means to never help people with ideation? How is dying bad for you? If the badness of a person's life has overwhelmed them, how is it ethical to torture them with guilt and with obligation to continue to suffer?
Thank you for raising these important questions. In my experience many people, who have had suicidal thoughts, feel much better at a later time. Peter Goertz
Granted. But if it is given that that it is worthwhile to choose to live, how does not helping suicidal people make a good therapist? How is the therapist not training to help people to see that life is worthwhile not a tacit confession that the therapist is avoiding thinking about life being worthwhile because they also know that lving is not worthwhile? @@goertzpsychiatry9340
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 So what? Not everyone follows your same worldview. Not everyone wants to live a life that's mostly suffering with only a few good years, even if it's "at a later time". Why did you not answer the question: How is dying bad for you?
@@user-ko2fq2hg8bI definitely don’t have all of the answers.
I think many people who work in mental health aren’t trained well or maybe loose the ability to be compassionate. It’s a huge shame. I have found over and over again that I get turned away when I’m at my worst, and that leads to more despair. I hid my suicidality for decades. When I finally tried to tell a psychiatrist, I was repeatedly turned away and treated like I was attention seeking. It’s pretty rare that talking about it actually leads to any help. In many ways it feels like keeping it inside is better. Because telling the wrong person makes it so much worse.
Nah. Life isn't truly worth living for me. It sucks.
I am sorry to hear this. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
Life is worth living when ya Financially free But besides that There is no point in living
I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
I have been struggling day in and day out to work, and looking for something that makes me want to continue living. For the past few months, I have been falling in love with something that I have ignored for years. It gives me purpose to push through my stressful job because one day, I could get out of there and pursue what I desire. I have shared that with my loved ones, but they think it will not help anyone. They think that I would just be wasting money and time. I understand that we are not rich. That is why they reacted that way. However, I do not wish to continue living and working just for the money. It kills parts of me every day.
What really saddens me is that they know my mental struggles and that if I have something that makes me happy, it keeps me away from negative thoughts that have already destroyed me in the past. I just wanna live my life with happiness while working and helping them. This spiraled really negatively and now I don't feel like doing anything. I am crawling my way into work and trying my best not to break down.
I hope life truly is worth living.
Thank you Ilias for your comment. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
One perspective that has helped me a little bit recently is to accept mystery - accept that there is no way for us to know why we exist or if there even is a purpose. When I am able to remind myself of this, my attention seems to refocus on what needs to be done right here and right now. Like the dog needing to be taken for a walk. Needing to go to work. And like remembering that as insignificant as it is, I really do like feeling the warmth of the morning sun and the green on all the trees. It doesn't always work though.
BTW, for context - I am a person who has suffered with treatment-resistant major depression, OCD and GAD for over 35 years. Hardly a day has gone by in all that time that I did not say to myself that I don't want to be here. I don't want to be here bc I want the pain to stop - sometimes even psychogenic pain. I don't want to be here bc my limbs are pinned to my bed by leaden paralysis. I am never not depressed, but I do have better days than this. I just need to ride it out and try the tools I've learned that have helped me in the past. Remembering to say to myself "remember the tools" is hard. As is, holding off on believing things are as bad as they are until I try some of my tools.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Peter Goertz
thats what living means. Dont hold yourself to the impossible standards of society. It will leave you depressed and lonely for trying to do something you don't truly want. Find whatever little thing or interest that you have and hold into it because that is worth so much.
Only for the lucky
Thank you, i am very depressed right now and seeing life in this way like a giant school really helps me. I actually used to think this way, but thoughts like these don't cross your mind too often, when you're very depressed. So thx for the lil reminder! ❤
Thank you very much! I hope you feel better soon. Peter Goertz
The problem is as a mental health professional you are forced by the constitution to be pro-life. If you don't oblige, you risk losing your license.
If a patient has no interest in continuing to exist, it is the mental health professional and the government that takes the position as the arbiter of what is subjectively good or bad for the individual that is suffering. I feel it is a bit sanctimonious.
Thank you for your input regarding this issue. Peter Goertz
27 years old. Long story short, currently 3 years into working heavy equipment, earth movers specifically. Pay is terrible (less than $1 raise every year from $17.50) the work is interesting though. Haven’t spent time with friends in over a year in a half, but haven’t been in jail in almost 6 years. Currently living with my dad since December 27th, which is tough because my (second) stepmom is cold and mean even though I try to stay out of her way, and my dad himself was physically (hit, throw, kick), sexually (you’ll see), emotionally (told my the only reason I was born my mom was on firtility pills; when I was 15 said I’m the reason his life is shitty) abusive and likes to ‘forget’ about a lot of the bad things he has done even when others like my sister corroborate that he’s misremembering. I try to keep my distance from my dad but it’s thought because he comes to me, the economy is fucked I can’t move out unless it’s into my car. Moms a drunk on full VA disability because of when my dad beat her in a base and her new husband is also on full VA disability and they both drink while he chain smokes and makes the house gross. My mom says she’s the only one that cleans and does stuff which is true but she’s hammered by 9am every day. She even said I might need to move in to help and I basically was like no i can’t even figure out my life so I’m sorry but I can’t help with yours..I’m never gonna own a home, never gonna have a wife, or probably even another friend. Never gonna have a kid or even attempt to accomplish my dreams because I can’t afford to. So why the fuck am I here? So my mom and sister aren’t sad for a couple days? If anyone’s selfish it’s them for making me live me terrible existence 24/7 just so they won’t be sad for a little bit..
Dad molested me with first stepmom when I was 9..held me down and str!pped me before making fun of my prepubescent pen!s for being small and I just screamed ‘no’ and don’t remember much else from that day other than that was right after I got home from school and they wanted me to change clothes for a church thing called Wednesday night live.. a few months later, and a few weeks before my 10th birthday, they ripped me from my reality, family, and friends and put me in a boarding school called epworth village which has significantly decreased in size since 2007 due to all the abuse and reported accusations. My grandma fairly recently pointed out that she wasn’t allowed to see me for 2 years even though she said her and my late grandpa had no problems with me and wanted me to live with them before going to boarding school..my life has no purpose and I’ve spent so much time miserable that unless my life does a 180 and I’m super happy and successful in a year and forever until I die then I want to be gone asap
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. Thank you for sharing this. In my opinion and experience people in your kind of situation can feel much better over time, and enjoy their life. Psychotherapy can help. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
Life is pointless, death is inevitable
My story goes back too far to tell why and how I chose to live out my life. Many years of seeking, my purpose was revealed and I have always considered the darkest times of depression my greatest opportunities to grow and learn what I can, because they have given me wisdom, humility, compassion and insight. Unfortunately I am struggling long term traumas and loss, and the difficulty of finding my way back to living, rather than existing in my daily pain alone. But i do believe i am here to contribute, and unwilling to give up on that, even against all odds.
Thank you for sharing this. Peter Goertz
I learned absolutely nothing by watching this.
Same.
Some people are definitely better than others. The fact that the majority of people have at least been on a date proves that I’m lesser than them. I’m over 30 and have never even been worth taking advantage of for a free meal.
Don’t tell me that we’re equal when I’m worse than you in every measurable way.
Thank you for your comment. In my opinion we are all human beings with problems, and nobody is better than anybody else. I hope, that you will soon be able to see yourself more positively. Peter Goertz
You may be insane then. What are sport’s scores, school grades and hierarchies for if not to determine who’s better than whom?
All people of course have equal dignity. That is made clear by the fact that we all share a common human nature. That is on the immaterial level. On the material level everyone is different and better or worse in immediate and obvious ways.
As a psychologist I hope you hold for the existence of the soul. But the soul is not all there is or the only measure of a person.
I don't have this issue, but I have a friend who is living very close to the edge. He tried to end his life last year by overdosing on some pills.
After this incident he was hospitalized for 3 months and had therapy, but I think that didn't work.
His outlook on life did not change and he is getting worse and worse as time passes - asking the is life worth living question more and more.
We have talked with him many times and I think I know why he is doing it, but not sure how to help him :(
He had a very strong and capable father who he idolized and in the last few years he started thinking he let him down.
Now he is already in his 40s, has no financial issues, has a great job, but no matter how hard he tried he couldn't find a partner.
The idea of family is super important to him and I think he feels that he let his father down by not having a loving wife and children by now.
He is not religious but has a firm belief that by not having children all his ancestors lives are rendered meaningless, which sucks, since based on that logic he is the one who invalidates their lives by not continuing their legacy. We have tried to challenge this thinking to encourage him to find other meaning in his life or look at it in a different way but we either couldn't get through or just pissed him off.
We also have tried to hook him up with girls many times - to fix the not having a family and children issue - but he couldn't succeed making a relationship work.
He might have some trust issues with woman, because his mother cheated on his father which broke the old man and their family fell apart ending in his father withering away in pain.
His mother is still alive and tries to contact him time to time - to leech some money off him - which further reinforces his idea of "woman not being trustworthy and only out to use and abuse him".
Truth be told, most people in our friends group think that his mother is a woman with dubious character and not a very good influence on him.
As his friend what can we do to help? I think if things continue the way they are he will probably try something stupid again.
Thank you for sharing this. If your friend has suicidal thoughts, he needs to go to an emergency room. From what you are describing it seems that your friend might benefit from psychotherapy with a psychotherapist whom he trusts, and from seeing a psychiatrist whom he trusts. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 Thanks for the response.
The only worry I have is that pushing him towards therapy might piss him off.
Last year a friend of ours found him when he tried to end his life and since he was hospitalized for 3 month he blames him for that and cut all connection to that person - blocked him, and doesn't want to do anything with him.
He has a very strong sense of justice and I am sure that if we tried to push for therapy against his will he might consider that as an act of betrayal and cut us off, which would probably make things worse, since now at least he still has some friends he can talk to.
I think he is living in an idealized world that clashes with the real one and he just cannot accept reality - at least this is what the last therapist told us, but when they got into an argument he stopped going and decided that that person is manipulative and betrayed his trust. The whole situation is f*cked up - sorry for the expression, but I don't have a better word to describe it.
Anyways, we'll see what we can do to find a therapist for him.
This was helpful for me. Thank you for uploading
Thank you Pieter! Peter Goertz
I’d like to hear your opinion on euthanasia due to psychiatric conditions. It’s illegal here in the us but it’s available in places like Canada and the Netherlands
Thank you for your suggestion. Interesting question.
Wish it will become legal here too.
@@humancapybaras1301 I must confess I felt the same way 8ish months ago. I took myself to the emergency room and told all the doctors there of my desires instead.
This eventually brought me to an acute inpatient psychiatric facility, where I told the attending psychiatrist of my plans for assisted suicide. He wasnt very happy with that, to say the least.
I would recommend inpatient treatment/hospitalization as the next step for you, as it sounds like youve been experiencing suicidal ideation for quite some time. Since you are not actively suicidal, only passively, meaning you are not currently in the process of attempting to kill yourself, it is not a medical emergency.
If you feel the desire to pursue your goals in this context please go to the nearest emergency room or call 911
@@humancapybaras1301 I respect the right to end ones own life. After my grandfathers wife of 50 years passed away, he no longer had a desire to live anymore.
I eventually stopped preparing his blood pressure medications for him. He still had them, but chose not to take them. His daughter was also in prison at the time.
I spent every single moment of every day with him for many years, & I know he still loved me. But, at 72, there was not much left that made him happy, other than his wife. So, he joined her. & I have to respect that decision as I am the one that allowed it to happen
It still bothers me a great deal & it always will, as hes the only person I ever really cared about. Whatever happens to you, dont let it impact anyone else
Ego which we all have is a huge part of life or understanding everything or others.
Thank you for mentioning this aspect!
So your advice is "become delusional"...gee thanks doc
Thank you so much for your content Sir. I have been in a dark place from quite awhile and I have been asking these questions myself. I am trying to push it to through but at times I do feel like there's nothing that's gonna help.
Thank you for your personal comment Maninder. I hope things improve for you soon. I you feel that you might do something to harm yourself, please go to an emergency room. Peter Goertz
You probably should not be by yourself anymore. Try spending more time with friends and or family & call 911 if you have plans to harm yourself
@@reddbendd haha why do 'you' care..? Or are you just repeating automatic responses that emerge from the herd mentality, hive mind collective conscious regurgitate?...Who says you must live or survive.?
push through what exactly? what's the end goal.?
@@TheUrantia001 brother you okay?
i think it's not
I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
Why 18 y/o boy life is full of pain? Why i need to face this much financial crisis ? Why i need to live ? Is it worth living this life? After these much trauma mental depression, my mental peace is ruined. How my upcoming days are gonna be with this shattered mindset. Idk. This situation should never happen to anyone!
I am sorry to hear what is going on in your life. I hope things improve soon. Peter Goertz
Thank you so much Dr. Goertz, you are really an inspiring doctor and a role model to look up to! 😊
Thank you Anna!
My idea about meaning of life is, that one can always find excuse to complain. And one can always find excuse not to surrender and keep fighting on. Its ironic how some people despite having all give up so easy, while others being as poor and miserable as possible, fight to the bitter end. History is full of events were people are starving and freezing, but despite all the bad still cling on to whatever they can.
Thank you for sharing this. Peter Goertz
yes every soul came here for the development of soul growth to learn lessons everything in life is preconceived if it wasn't written in the divine plan it not happening
you mapped your whole life out from start to end right down to every last detail even your death is plana and the cause of death life is synchronized
What if living means living with spine pain, hip pain and leg pain that started when I was still in high school and only gotten worse since then. I'm 41 now. I was walking with a cane and able to drive working as a speed courier until I got rear ended at a red light that put me in a wheelchair 3 years ago. I Loved driving, it was all I could do without causing too much pain, I took pride in my skills of dodging so many crashes daily and putting down over 300 to 400 miles a day for 4 day a week and getting my delivery done as fast as I could, I was over skilled and way under paid but the money wasn't even enough to live on even while living in my parent's basement. Now It hurts like my spine is being crushed with each bump. My life just keeps getting worse and everything I do to try and get help or better, I fail. I don't just fail, I REALLY FAIL! I can't get any help from a doctor anymore, I was back in 2013 until I caught the "Doctor STEALING my Pills" while doing the pill counts and was cut off cold turkey in 2015! Ever since, I can't even see a pain doctor. I guess I should have just let them keep taking my meds because me saying just one thing about it and bam, I was pushed out of that office and told they would call the cops if I ever came back! So the only reason I'm still alive is because I have some older ladies that I would give ride to the doctor and once they found out how I was done, they started sharing some of their pain meds with me. Sadly, 2 of them past away and another had a stroke and was put in a nursing home. So now I'm don't to breaking one pill in half, one for when I have to get dressed and the other for bed. It's not enough but as of now, that's my only way of dealing with my constant pain. You made some good points but you haven't been where people like me have, its HELL, and once you live through hell, then you would understand better! Some like me, would rather take themselves out over letting the pain drive them mad and lead them to causing harm to others. I know too many ways to do harm so if I start seeing signs that I'm close to my breaking point, I have to turn myself in to a mental hospital.... Big issue with that is, they let me suffer even more and pump me full of meds that keep me docile but do nothing for my pain. They do the "lets see how bad he gets before we do anything" system of making me suffer with pain, depression and withdrawals! Sounds like a fun time huh? No doc, I wish you could understand what we are going through but until you have suffered too long, lost all hope and then get lied to by a doctor saying they will help you just to take your money and tell you "you can't have pain meds, you are in too much pain, here take this antidepressant! Then you will be able to help those people better.
What to speak with me before I go back to the mental jail? Message me soon!
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. Thank you for sharing this. I hope things improve for you soon. In general acupuncture can help with pain. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 you didn't even read what I was saying. just like all doctors, you don't seem to care about what suffering is to a person that has suffered too many years of their life away For No REASON! Doctors are just as bad as lawyers, you get rich off other's suffering from a Broken system! You only help reinforce my mistrust of "doctors"
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 This is why I do not trust "doctors" all they want is to lock me up, not help me from what is the real issue, chronic pain that has taken my whole life and wasted it! You didn't even read my words did you? I can't get help from a hospital, they don't see my pain as Life Threating so they send me home in the same shape I came in. If I go to a mental hospital, they WILL NOT GIVE ME ANYTHING FOR MY PAIN! NOTHING! They do the "lets see how bad he gets game" and I have to ACT like I'm better before they let me out. NEVER AGAIN! Just tell me to eat crap next time!
Nice tone of voice... and that's it because the whole thing has COMPLETELY no resemblance to reality.
When you are born sick.
When you have not one but two chronic diseases (incurable, fatal).
When life is (despite all the fears and struggles) a series of failures.
When you have no one else to turn to...
When life is nothing but pain, suffering and futility... it begins to dawn on you that life is worth nothing but 💩 and suicide (in such circumstances) becomes the "emergency exit".
If you have suicidal thoughts please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 Thank you for your concern. No, I don't have it at the moment and I don't intend to. I didn't want to upset, but rather present a different point of view (more real and, unfortunately, ugly, which, however, is much more common among people).👍
When i watched my grandma slowly deteriorate and suffer everyday until she died is when i began to question if its really worth it, your body slowly fails you and rot to the point it becomes your own prison is the disturbing part.
I felt dead inside always and even if i were given billions id still be dead inside, sure id spend money on what i want but then eventually i wouldnt know what to do with it and I'd still feel dead inside, plus nobody will be genuine around me.
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. In my opinion there is room for other perspectives than the perspective you expressed. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
You are only lying to yourself, psychiatrist, merely biological/ chemical automoton!!!
cause life was much better than it is now we were more happier and more fun important this days people mis behaive they treating u like were somekinda animals
Thank you kind sir, this helped me a lot. God bless you
Thank you, that is wonderful to hear!
Great video! Very relatable.
Thank you Chris! Peter Goertz
Doctor,after severe ptsd I lost my will to live.Do you think there is hope for me and how can I find it back?
My doc doesn't answer on this when I ask.
Hi Ann, In my opinion there is hope for anyone. I used to work in a VA clinic with many Vietnam combat veterans with PTSD. Various kinds of treatment can help PTSD. Peter Goertz
I have a backup plan B, but I feel it has to get better next summer
as someone nihilist and deist. i don't believe in afterlife and i have lost my faith in my religion (islam), and now the idea of suiciding grows. i don't want to live this life. it's just what it is, i can't say i have family problems or i was traumatised or anything. i'm just done i can't visualize something on earth that makes me happy.
If you have suicidal thoughts please go to an emergency room. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 My point was to say that i don't want to live this life. i don't have any mental disorder or anything, i just don't want to live this life. i don't think theraoy would be helpful.
Hey, I would like to ask you why did you become a psychiatrist? Did you feel like "hmm, this sounds interesting"? Was it your dream? Maybe you didn't find it interesting but you were good at it? Or was it for money? Did anyone force you? I'm new so I don't know whether you have already mentioned this information on your channel. Another question, can I become one while being an egoist and lacking empathy (I suspect the reason is a mix of depression and being a teen, hopefully not a long-term problem) but still being able to understand other people? For a long time my dream was to get accepted into a good high school which I managed to accomplish but then I realized I didn't know how to continue in life which made me develop extreme emptiness, laziness and I felt like I was the only one left behind while everyone else continued to pursue their dreams. Fortunatelly, not a long time ago I discovered my interest in this specific topic and my grades have gone up , I actually do some research regarding psychiatry and I feel alive again. However I don't know if this profession is fit for someone like me. Could you give me an *honest* opinion, please?
You’re not gonna know whether you w joy working in psych or not until you get experience. Also, some people prefer inpatient (higher acuity) vs outpatient (generally more stable patients) it’s a great idea to Shadow a psych RN if you can, or get a job as a psychiatric technician. This will expose you to patients.
Peter became a psychiatrist because he enjoys talking to people and he learns from them. I’m sure there are other reasons but it’s also good money. You could make $350-550,000/yr and similar salary as a psychiatric nurse practitioner (phmnp)
You really need to decide whether $200,000 of debt for medical school is the right choice for you. PMHNPs have the same privileges as a psychiatrist, with half the time spent in school and almost all of the salary
Psychiatry is a skill, so I would have to say he’s probably good at it considering he’s not accepting any new patients currently. I would recommend you research cognitive and affective perspective-taking. People usually refer to this as empathy, but it’s a much deeper connection when you can actually make inferences on what the person is thinking compared to what they’re feeling. It’s basically mind reading, which I have been practicing for a long time. I met a lot of people at the locked psych ward, and none of them liked talking to their doctors or therapists. They were all quite shit, imo. However I’ve been talking to the patients frequently and they seem to be improving. Al thought I am not a professional, I am just able to understand what they’re going through and read their minds a little bit sometimes
Again I’m gonna recommend you become a mental health technician & get some experience before you decide this is the field you wanna work in. You can also ask to be voluntarily admitted into an inpatient psychiatric unit. Behavioral health is usually working with patients who are more rambunctious than mental health. I prefer interacting with patients who are suicidal because they don’t want to hurt anyone. There’s lots for you to learn here and it’s important to find your niche
I want it to be worth living, but it's not fair. How come everybody else gets their lights at the end of their tunnels while mine is closed at both ends? I'm stuck in a stone coffin, and nobody is coming to get me out.
I hope things improve for you soon. If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. Peter Goertz
I feel it's better to start new coz at least the mind reset and those problems with time become too dark
If you have suicidal thoughts please go to an emergency room. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 not interested in that
Do whatever you want in life (:
It's not worth for me. Living life over and over. Will having a goal change it? . Because i want to visit so many places in the world. But does it change anything. I don't know. I breathe in and out , sleep and wake , eat , all the days . Cry , smile , laugh , express, do everything. But at the end we know its death . What is after death . Is it nothing? then its good
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
It's really not, i've gone from "i don't want to be on this planet anymore" to "i don't want to be"
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
It would appear to me that life is about meaning. If they have meaning, then people can endure any hardship. But if you don't, then almost any luxury or comfort cannot give you satisfaction. The fact is, each person's soul is a unique concoction, made by God (if you will). But in this world, very very few people are able to find a way in which that uniqueness can co-exist with their life struggle here. That leaves most of us questioning whether we need to be here at all. If anyone could live my life, do my job, make a family, then what's the point of having ME do it?
This is why we revere famous athletes, celebs, actors, etc. Because they have made something and do something that could only have been done by them. There is only one Angelina Jolie, or Lebron James or Eddie Van Halen. The rest of us feel quite interchangeable and pointless. This is where, in my opinion, one begins to question why we are alive at all. And I think that questioning is entirely natural and understandable. The only anwer any religion has is that God is mysterious. That doesn't really do it for me. Perhaps it does for some others.
Thank you Andrew for sharing your thoughts on this. Peter Goertz
I dont look to others as special or unique, i believe we all have the ability to live lives worth living by being exactly who we are, finding our innermost reason for continuing. It is a struggle for all of us to find that within.
what's the point to learn (suffer) a lot to finally not having any benefit from it ???
of course, as a psychiatrist you can't be against suicide.
but what kills me the most, is when you include god at the end ... man, that wasn't a good idea, trust me !
you f.up your whole video with that s...t
I found this during a particularly tough moment in life. It was helpful. Thank you.
Hi Geoff, Thank you for your personal comment. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
I noticed you referred to anyone discussing the 's' word as patients? How do you arrive at this label? Why is it so taboo to discuss these matters intelligently without people with false optimism gas lighting and shaming anyone with a more enhanced view of what it means to be "alive", and a difference of opinion..
. ,
The problem with anyone who operates in any Medical setting, is that they have no background in theology, philosophy, theosophy, or applied ethics. So they are in no position and are thus unable to offer a proper informed objective perspective..All current practices are founded in error and flawed logic, based on only assumptions. Monkeys trying to control other monkeys is rather funny. How many humans can answer the following:-
1 Do you do remember anything before you were born? Where do we get the notion that this is life, when you are dying/decaying via entropy from the moment you are "born"?
2 Who are?
3.Where are we?
4.When are we?
5.What are we?
6.Define life, Define death
7.What happens after we depart this body?
It seems to me, that no one that i have ever met can answer any of these questions and have no authority to offer any advice to anyone. We run around repeating cliches and affirmations without knowing their true origins. From my experience the person sitting in their chair in a first world country has difficulty looking past their comfortable lives with a limited perspective on just how painful and difficult life really is...with 10,000 disease for humans alone..normal?..i'd say something is out of balance.
Few people possess critical thinking and follow along with the bandwagon fallacy, again based on an error-in reasoning, assumptions, and faulty or no ethical insight, i.e Current ethics are based on a projection on profit and how good of a human resource one can be, how much you might consume....
Yes just because a 7 billion people suffer from psychosis, indeed does not make it normal..
(it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society, culture or world) - Krishnamurti.
Thank you for your detailed input. Peter Goertz
I think there's ultimately a purpose and whatnot and that it is worth living, but it's beyond us either at the moment or always. If you go back to the start of how does anything exist, it's ridiculous and impossible that any of it does - IMO I'm not religious but I think there's a creator of some sort, and that there's some ultimate thing this is all for - and beyond that, scaling back down to reality, forget all of the above stuff and just think, there are things you/I like doing and gravitate towards like our minds pull us to them, follow them, do your best, enjoy life etc, and maybe find out what's up with it all afterwards lol.
Thank you for sharing this! Peter Goertz
Please let me share my point of veiw . When you tknow the only true purpose for which this whole life was created and whole creation was designed , then we will find meaning , peace, and purpose. we can not find that unless we read God's last book that was revealed to humanity through the last prophet Mohammad Pesce be upon him. It is the book The Quran " in which you will fiind answers for all your questions about this life and the what came before and what will come after. in this book God speaks Himself.
I hope ypu are never told to "find the silver lining" following the death of a child.
Thank you for bringing up this aspect. I don’t mean to sound condescending. Peter Goertz
Dear Dr. Peter,
Really appreciate the awareness that you're spreading. Thank you 🙏
Thank you very much! Peter Goertz
Thank you so much for this.
Seems like nothing can work i need to die
If you have suicidal thoughts please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 what a wretchedly irresponsible answer. Did you know that emergancy room visits increasw the odds of the person killing themselves? Are you a licensed therapist???
Gaining perspective really changes everything.
Thank you Ashley for your input. Peter Goertz
Your'e easily hypnotised, simple minds.
@@TheUrantia001 what are you going on about?
No, it's not.
fpr does who are depressed no lets be greatful and be happy F them who dont bealive in me we also been in jails i been true hell we also grow up this is how unbalance life is lets put negativety alone concetrate on ur own goal and realety focus kiss ur love ones tell them we love u hate is awful hate give u us nothing but hate jesus didnt plan that humans its just u are not having a good day its all but sun will come
You are proof that deep pain grows deep in who we can become, and how much strength and wisdom can come from our worst experiences.❤
Life doesnt know the meaning of "worth", at least not in the philosophical sense. So in that case no it is not. But life and in our case our existance is not about whether we like it or not. Whether it is worth it or not. Of course it is not, because it does not matter at all. If it is worth or not. You live for whatever reason, let it be just chance or fate. You are alive and now you have to deal with it no matter the worth. You were given this existance and you cannot sell it. Life has no value per se, its an unchangable fact. It is or it isnt. Either you can enjoy it or you cannot. There is absolutely no worth to it. If you are lucky you can like it and if not well... then bad luck for you :D . Life is literally more like a bitch as they say :D
Thank you for your input. Peter Goertz
Finding it hard to find go on sometimes, but the thought of being judged in the afterlife,or no afterlife equally frightening.
Thank you for your personal comment. Please see a psychotherapist and a psychiatrist. If you are thinking about killing yourself, please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
Correction doc. We are not intended to learn. We are intended to enjoy and have fucking FUN
Thank you Mark for reminding us of the importance of having fun. Peter Goertz
I'm 29 and I've got many reasons why my life is already miserable.
I’m sorry to hear this. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 I really do too. I just don't have many outlets, I have tried websites like Beyond Blue and I'm at the point where there's nothing else to turn to. I hate how people always want to recommend medications, I don't see why talking therapy can't be as viable. I've always had the belief if someone was homeless would giving them a anti depressant pill really change how they should feel.
Not worth it. Would never do it again
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
Depends on luck and mental constitution. Some people live well, some people don't. Simple as
maybe
I'm tired of living with chronic pain.
Hi Sterling, I’m sorry to hear about your situation. If you have suicidal thoughts please go to an emergency room. Acupuncture can help with pain. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 I've tried it with no lasting effects.
Life is tearing me apart and death is a dream I pray for. I hate being awake.
Hi Jimmy, I am sorry to hear this. Please see a mental health professional as soon as possible. If you think of suicide, please go to an emergency room. I hope that things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz
@@goertzpsychiatry9340 This is nothing to do with mental health, Don't you think billions of people suffering form similar related existential dilemmas, that there might just be something wrong with this world,?..that just maybe it's not humans that are the problem,..That this world was designed to be for suffering..?.Your point blank denial is astounding, and why do you feel sorry for him and not the world..i didn't design this world, neither did Jimmy there so, it's not "our" problem...right?
Short answer and long answer: No
Yes it is worth living guys ups and downs are apart of life you can’t recognize the joy without experiencing the pain
😂. I needed this laugh
No
Life on antipsychotics is not enjoyable
I hope things improve for you soon.
Life is worth living because life is sanity. Life is the opposite of madness, and it’s the opposite of chaos. Life is not scary and the world isn’t scary either.
Thank you for sharing this.
short answer... not really
wow man, you're not good at this are you
Too much talking, just say yes or no?
Life is hard so what, why is everyone in this comment section so afraid of suffering. You’ll find meaning in your life through suffering and it’s not like you’re being forced to live
Thank you for your comment. Peter Goertz
😑*reset*
Please help end suffering, become an antinatalist.
"Life is worth the living just because he lives"
Look up this song sit back and enjoy, your welcome : )
More BS from someone who doesn't really know.
Sounds like a f king crock.
Life with ALLAH (GOD) is a priceless
Short answer... no.
long answer... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
LIfe is 100% not worth it.
It would be a net improvement to the world if I died.
same but I'm not gonna end my life unless it gets like REALLY bad
@@iiCounted-op5jx my death would improve three lives measurably.
@@TH-camIsRetarded689 May I ask how?
This guy should take what it’s prescribing
No
If you have suicidal thoughts, please go to an emergency room. I hope things improve for you soon. Peter Goertz