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@@Factsarebetterthan you have to love it when someone shares an unsolicited opinion of nonsense and vitriol one day and the next is crying, "Wahhhh! I've fallen and landed on the consequences of my actions and can't get up!"
Thanks for putting out this video. I'm new to your channel and not sure how YT steered me to something tagged with Bridgerton, but I am going to assume it is your left-leaning political/queer vibe goodness that led me along this path. I appreciated the way you cut through the nonsense of the article to the underlying cores of Zionism and self-loathing on the part of the author. I'm subscribed now and look forward to your future content.
The way she had to pepper in "she's fat--not that there's anything wrong with that!!!!" despite the fact that she spends the entire article talking about how wrong and bad and ugly it is. People are so exhausting sometimes, legitimately.
Fat shaming is sickening and weak. If that's what another person has to rant about that is pathetic and cruel. I'm trim now, was thin my whole life, until I hit my mid-forties and my Mom was diagnosed with terminal cancer. I did everything to be healthy and practically starved myself to drop the weight, but menopause makes it incredibly difficult. And then my mother's diagnosis, my own health issues, and severe depression was a nightmare combination and I stopped trying to be healthy so I gained even more weight. I learned that when I was obese I became invisible to the people around me. I never knew how cruel people could be and the insane stereotypes that sprout from that ignorance. I did eventually do intermittent fasting and switched to keto and then carnivore diet. And then I suddenly had people telling me how great I looked and all of the positive comments that meant that they clearly thought I was a lost cause when I was heavy. It's telling. And then I had unwelcome advances from men again, because I was no longer invisible. It's really disturbing. I'm the same person,just in a smaller frame. The actress is lovely and sorry to hear all of this flack. People really are cruel.
@@annmarieknapp It might have been your menopause as well but starving yourself can actually stop your body from losing weight. When a person suddenly stops eating their body goes into 'starvation mode', thinking it's due to a lack of food available the body automatically does whatever it can to store as much energy as possible and your mind will try and get you eating more after you have food.
I don't even watch Bridgerton but I've seen this actress around and she's really pretty. So imagine my shock when she's been called "ugly". Ugly?? Why the heck would she-? Ohhhh. She's fat. Well. I'm just so tired of people pretending fat=ugly.
This is not surprising I grew up in the 90s and women who were half her size were fat shamed in Hollywood and then people were surprised we had issues with eating disorders at that time.
Absolutely! I am a huge fan of Derry Girls and even though I knew she wasn’t a teen or in her early twenties I was shocked that she was 37. She looks amazing. I’m jealous as hell.
What I hate is that the article writer said Penelope's body isn't described in the books...dude, it's very well described. She is chubby at 15-17. Her book is set when she's 27, where she's gained more freedom, is firmly "on the shelf" and is a very busy businesswoman and author. Which has kead to her losing some baby fat, but she's still supposed to be fatter than her peers. And Colin loooves her curves. The casting is perfect. The problem is messing with the timeline. It messes up the character development.
It really depends on the person. Some people just are great, doesn't matter how much they weight. Nicola is perfect, I will see her, regardless of her weight, because she as a person is so interesting and beautiful. While others are not likable regardless if they're skinny or fat, it shows.
I personally am not a fan. She has exactly ONE facial expression. Being overweight is a huge health risk worse than smoking. Why are we suddenly glorifying it? She should lose at least 40 pounds.
Yes I'm getting married to my fat gf, and every other woman I dated has be coincidentally fat (I'm attracted to all sizes, I've just always ended up with a plus size woman). I know plenty of other guys who are into fat women and theres a reason why theres a huge subsection of p0rn dedicated to fat women and fat onlyfans models are successful.
We live in different worlds. Majority of fat women I know have trouble with men, either because the men don't like them and are just using them, or that the men simply avoid them at all costs.
Me! That’s me! “Fat girl” who is engaged to a 6’4” toned and built, dark and handsome man. He loves me, curves and all. Over the last 3 years he’s made me learn to love myself because HE adores me.
Might I add: all Bridgerton fans were waiting for season 3 like mad, knowing that Nic would be Penelope (for obvious reasons). We were expecting her, and Shonda is no fool: if Nicola weren't attractive enough, would she have cast her for season 1 knowing what would come? Would she have invested in all that parafernalia and publicity not knowing for sure she was scoring a hit?
Honestly, Penelope always carried extra baby fat. That baby fat matured into curves that drove Colin wild. I was terrified that they would not stay true to their story and would make Nicola lose weight for her glow up. I am so thankful that they did not chicken out and that Nicola is allowed to shine in this role! Yes, I have absolutely been waiting for this season since season 1!
@@divekatdreaming And that baby fat just came from ill-fitting gowns. What you see as maturing into curves is a deliberate change of dress styles to flatter Nicola's shape.
@@GuineaPig361 Actually, I was not describing Nicola. I was describing the character of Penelope who she plays. The author did not write the character as slim, and It would have been an absolute cop out and disservice to cast a skinny actress in the part or to force Nicola to skinny up. She would no longer have fit the character or their love story.
Even if there weren’t, who cares? Beauty is not contingent upon being a specific size, I’m entirely confused by people who say it is. The author of the article seems the kind of girl who believes that if the standard of beauty begins to include more diversity, her romantic options will dwindle 😂
I wish I looked like her and I have a "normal" BMI. She is blessed not only with a doll face and perfect skin, she is smart, deeply intelligent, witty, good humored and on top of it she is completely unaware of her charm. I am just... slim.
Why is a woman's "hotness" her only value? Can people not fall in love over things other than surface appearance? Brigerton seems to think that people can want more. Do only hot people get married in the real world?
I literally fell in love with Nicola from the first moment I saw her in Bridgerton, she was so cute even in those yellow dresses, and she gave such a sensual aura in season 3. She’s also such a good, wellspoken person, smart and kind, she’s my celebrity crush (hope that’s not weird). The blatant mix of fatphobia and sexism in the article is disgusting, Colin a ten and Nicola not hot?! They are both so attractive! I can’t believe an adult supposed to be more mature and smart than me wrote something so horrid... A plumper figure used to be the standard for noble woman, the Regency era admired ancient Greece, Aphrodite the Goddess of love and sensuality had a tummy. So as much as Bridgerton is not historically accurate Penelope is the beauty standard that they looked for.
I must add those two are more attractive due to personality than looks. I mean, Colin looks good, but technically Anthony should be "hotter" and I think he sucks in comparison to Colin, who is hot, smart, kind and overall adorable. Same about Pen. She's smart, has some ambitions and tries to be kind (though she regularly screws up). I think the actors are cute, but I like the characters even better.
Exactly! Also, today's beauty standards are so restrictive and tunnel vision like (Kim Kardashian body, Megan Fox face, blonde and tan) and considering Colin's looks (he's clearly no 10), he is very lucky to have Nicola. Penelope looks perfectly at home amongst flowers and 1800s paintings, and that was the standard of beauty back then. Also, keep in mind, back then, pale rosy skin and natural long hair and considerably less makeup (more natural) was the ideal.
Some women are always sooooo mad when fat women are being loved when they are still single, because it’s as if their world view/messages they received (that being fat is unworthy of love) is shattered. Like girl, there are people who love plus sized women. We are lovable and worthy of love. It’s like that one episode of Community when the doctor said (paraphrased from my memory, sorry I can’t find the exact quote), “We’re all made of ground beef! Nothing about our body is made to last forever.” And in response, the fitness obsessed Jeff says, (paraphrased), “Do you know how many donuts I gave up to look like this?! I want my donuts back.” Life is short. None of us live forever (even those of us who kill ourselves trying to achieve some ideal of body perfection that doesn’t even exist). I’m not encouraging obesity by saying just let yourself go, but you can in fact enjoy things in moderation and actually enjoy the gift of life if you stop obsessing over how your body looks. Stop being mad about it and enjoy a damn donut. 🍩
Some conventionally attractive people will be vicious towards anyone who doesn't look like them and gets more male attention than them. It's pick me behavior, Cressida behavior. She's a little overweight and still a ten. Some people's ego wakes the bully in them. This person could have done this for clicks too.
In additional funny, all the male reaction channels who are doing Bridgerton are entirely in agreement that Penelope is hot and that it is reasonable for Colin to be head over heels with her.
@@jessjess23brooks89 no hate to the actor/character but at some points during their scenes I did think you could replace him with a mop with a wig on and I probably wouldn't have noticed just because I was so focused on how hot Nicola was
lmaoo damn, honestly i agree (i am hella gay tho lol) but i do think a large part of that was poor writing for his character, especially in the new season. penelope’s character has a lot more depth and i feel was better and more carefully developed, while colin’s was much more rushed and made me quickly lose the little bit of interest i had in him as a character. they’re both very attractive people, (personally i find nicola much more attractive but as far as my sexuality goes i’m biased😭), but colins (idk his actual name) writing made him a lot less attractive i think
What I really don’t understand is acting like a subjective concept like hotness has universal rules for everyone. It freaking does not. Hotness is in the eye of the beholder. We might say someone is “conventionally attractive” to mean what is accepted in popular culture, but that means diddly to the average person who gets to make up their own damn mind. I think we’ve finally grown up enough to not believe Hollywood standards have to work for everyone.
This is such a good insight, what society deems atractive is not what every individual is atracted to. I never thought about it like that, thank you for opening my eyes.
@@Marcia-vl2yh Romantically, it only matters what ONE person thinks (in monogamy anyway) and professionally or socially being average can have higher advantages than being “hot”-especially as a woman. I wish people would realize how completely made up the system really is so much of the time. Understand it, use it to your advantage when you can, and then discard it as mostly nonsense for your own peace of mind.
@@andianderson3017 The system puts so much pressure on people who simply are the way they are, it's toxic and hurtful! Beauty is what one perceives as beautiful.
Nicola is the whole reason I decided to watch Bridgerton. I saw a clip of Penelope and Colin and couldn't believe there was a female lead who looked like me in a romance like Bridgerton. Not only was she the lead, not only was she beautiful, but she was PORTRAYED as beautiful. It meant the world to me. Watched S3 that night, read RMB the next day, and I'm absolutely obsessed. The fact that Nicola is not only stunning and an amazing actress, but is also kind, has compassionate politics, and uses her platform for charity... Nicola is a gem.
I've been skinny my whole life, and I honestly can't understand someone would think Nicola is not hot or attractive enough to play a romantic MC in a TV show. To me, she's extremely attractive, and I've been waiting for her glow up and her story to be told from the very beginning. Couples like Colin and Pen exist in real world, and they're also being bullied for the fact one of them is "not hot" and therefore undeserving to be loved by their "hot" counterpart. To the author of this sorry excuse of an article: please, stop projecting your own bias and shallow mindset on the rest of the human population. Not all of us "love" with their eyes, and not all of us are into skinny, shredded people. Plus size women are attractive, desirable and lovable as well. I'm sorry for the author, honestly, more than for Nicola. What an empty shell.
It’s crazy to me that people STILL have this mindset of thin = beautiful, fat = ugly. It just screams of immaturity and callousness. Any person over the age of 12 could tell you that a persons attractiveness is subjective, and that it’s unkind to ridicule the looks of complete and utter strangers. I know that the writer of this article must have extremely little shame and actual comprehensive abilities, judging by the way they talk about the very easily understood idea of intersectionality, but I truly hope that somehow they will gain just a tiny, eeny sense of self awareness and be embarrassed at what a crappy writer they are that all they could do to gain traction was to leech off of Nicola’s well deserved fame rn 💀!
That's incel logic. What do you think of "not finding a nice guy who is aesthetically challenged attractive just screams of immaturity and callousness?"
Blatant fat-shaming and projection aside: It's so funny because the entire point of Penelope and Colin is not that they met and were instantly attracted to each other like Anthony and Kate, they met when they were children and have grown up together. Penelope fell in love with Colin from afar but never said anything and Colin only realised what he had once he matured enough to realise what he wanted in a partner. It's nothing to do with "hotness" and everything to do with mutual attraction. My only conclusion is that the hole in the air who wrote this drivel has never watched Bridgerton.
Leads don’t have to be “hot” ~ they must be great actors. Nicola is lovely n rounded in all the right places! She is a wonderful actress n has a great friendly personality. Folks should focus on the story NOT looks. She is wonderful n bubbly n talented.
She is hot by old standards. Ignore the tan supermodel standard, and think back to the 1800s paintings. Frankly, I like that standard of beauty more, because it is much more focused on pretty and much less on pornographic looks. (And even that is very debatable, if you go back to the early 1800s) *Mic drop*
Honestly, analysis aside, the article is just so mean. Like, seriously, just unkind. I don't watch the show but the actor is adorable. Even if she weren't what it's the point of all this?
The point WAS to be mean. The author is a Zionist and this is a thinly-veiled attempt at personally attacking Nicola and her fans over her support of Palestine. The cruelty is the point.
exactly and being bigger meant you could afford MASS AMMOUNTS OF SUGAR and therefore had cash money and that was a big green flag for marital candidates back in the day
This is true. I am reading Les liaisons dangereuses which was published in the late 1700s and “plump” is used to describe the woman being lusted over. It meant you were healthy and represented potential wealth because you could afford food.
Right and if I remember correctly wasn’t is also a sign of wealth. The more food you could eat it meant you could buy more food. The skinny ppl were the ones who were considered peasants bc they couldn’t afford the same food
@@hayley179g Maybe so, but I assure you, kid me spent a minute or so twisting her arms around in confusion, trying to figure out _where_ on the elbow one might conceivably have dimples.
I think the "Dear Reader" part is her way to reference Bridgerton, where Lady Whistledown writes "Dear Gentle Reader" in her column. Also Nicola is a very normal size, she is about US size 6, I'd say. Thank you for this piece! To quote Clare from Derry Girls "I'm not interested in you like that, look at the state of you" to the person who wrote that article
i think only crazy people would think fat= ugly. I have seen girls in bigger size that is prettier than the slimmer one. For me confidence should be the standards.
Honestly, why would you even write something that will surely hurt someone. I don't understand the cruelty..if you have these kind of thoughts..just keep them to yourself. Nicola seems like a sweet and caring person and this article is just hot garbage.
the moment in minute 4 when you read over the subtle mention of jews being not accepted as a minority i had the feeling this whole think piece was not about nicola being hot
I realized that from when I saw Nicola promoting helping Palestine...I said that's it! Nothing to do with her looks...but jealousy kills this writer too!
1. The actress is absolutely stunning 2. Ofc the author is a zioni$t, gross 3. love that you actually talk about the gen0c1de going on, idk how people go about life as if it isn't happening right now
When the carriage scene came on it hit me like a brick in the face how rare it is to see a plus-sized woman in a big budget movie/series and i LOVED it! I want MORE representation from "normal" looking women and men in movies and TV, not less. Sure, i love seeing beautiful people on the screen and i absolutely love seeing all the actresses that work their ass off to look as good (and often thin) as possible (they deserve the praise for their work, god knows i couldn't do it... Size 2 my ass!) but representing average size and plus size women (and men, too, but there is a long list of "normal" looking men being paired with gorgeos women *coughcough* Adam Sandler...) is so important and we definitely need MORE of it and to stop pretending like love is only for beautiful people. The last years in TV did really good in that regard, i think.
i honestly don't understand why this author would write and publish this. she says that being fat is not bad, yet shames Nicola's beauty on the basis of her body. Nicola is absolutely beautiful. it baffles me that people stuff believe that their body = attractiveness on a side note, this is the first time i've stumbled upon your channel and i'll definitely be coming back :)
I feel like a lot of the discussions I’ve seen about whether she is fat or chubby or plus or plump or midsized or whatever miss the point but you nailed it. It’s so unbelievably silly and reductive to try to categorize a human being as “hot” or “not hot”, especially when it’s obviously going to be highly subjective and complex and based on so many factors other than body fat percentage.
It’s worth mentioning that the ‘journalist’ who wrote this article is a Zionist and it’s unsurprising that she targeted Nicola given how vocal she has been about her support for Palestine and also recently raised around 1.7 million dollars via a fundraiser for Palestinian children’s fund.
The ‘journalist’ who wrote this article is a zi*nist. Not surprised at all that she targeted Nicola given how vocal she has been about her support for Palestine and also raised around 1.7 million dollars for the Palestinian children’s fund.
@@sandyberger-r9j Isreal has made it very clear that ot doesn't care about the hostages. Hamas have offered to free them several times under promise of a ceasefire, but Isreal just answered with bombs and bullets. Isreal only care that they can use the hostages as an excuse to murder innocent people, and they don't care if the hostages are among the dead bodies. They never cared.
It’s ridiculous that we have to entertain the notion that NC is somehow not 💯 a baddie. That she doesn’t have mad cap appeal that she isn’t throwing people into bisexual manic panic on the daily. Like I can respect not everybody’s cup of tea….fine. However those people are deadass incorrect and I need more!
I know a few men who are only attracted to larger women. Whether this is a fetish or just what they find attractive I can’t tell you. But I do know that all of the women they have dated have been very attractive, outgoing, fun , bubbly personalities. The guys are attractive fit guys too. To say you can’t have a “fat” romantic heroine is ridiculous.
Aren't beauty standards of women having to be skinny relatively new in human history? I thought that curvier women (not necessarily morbidly obese but what we would consider overweight all the same) be considered quite rare and thus attractive out of limited commodity back then? I could be wrong, any history buffs out there willing to confirm or deny? In any case, as a curvier woman myself I can say with assuredness that men will absolutely date women who aren't skinny, even the muscular/thinner sort of men whether the media wants to showcase that or not. I'm a woman who is currently dating someone who's much thinner than I am and who works out--it really isn't impossible, confidence goes a long way.
She's NOT fat. Literally. She wouldn't be any less gorgeous if she were - but she's like a Size 8 or 10 AT THE MOST, if not a 6, with a large bust and round face, and she's 5'1. She's not even remotely plus sized - the first couple seasons dress her more unflatteringly to make her appear 'dowdy' so this season she could 'glow up' and look awesome, as she chooses more flattering dresses vs the crummy and ones her mom forces her to wear. Though I think its hilarious that she's quoting the character she's trying to INSULT with the 'Dear Reader' thing.
She has exactly my height and roughly the same weight and I would not consider myself as fat (and I'm European where people are slimmer in general). I think that the dresses of that era (really unflattering for her and my body shape) and her really round face are misleading for that. I know a very slim person with a very round face like hers and I always see her in my mind much heavier than she really is. Nonetheless: I know lots of very beautiful heavier people. And lots of non-slim people in relationship, no matter if conventionally attractive or not.
No no no she is a thick girl, i am exactly the same height as her and i wear size 8 but i am petite. Nicola is not a size 8 Sis. She may be a size 12. I have been size 4/6/8/10 and at size 10 i was considered clinically obese due to my BMI and even then i was smaller in size than Nicola. Its okay for us to acknowledge that she is a both a thick lady and a very gorgeously stunning one at the same time.
@@dlilwon Nicola herself said she was a size 10 when filming season 1. I firmly believe her because a) the camera adds pounds so to speak and b) body type plays a big part in the appearance of size. So someone with bigger boobs and a round face is going to appear larger than someone of the same size who isn't quite as curvy and has a more elongated and thinner face.
Im same size as nicola. Heart shaped face, big boobs. Am 53 but look in my 30s apparently - not my own opinion before clapbacks. Most irish women look younger than ladies in sunnier climes as we get shite summers and less sun exposure and damage. So stuff like this attacks me too
I saw her first in Derry girls and then in Bridgerton. At no point did I think "uuh, she's ugly" She's such a beautiful, happy and glowing human. Some people just can't take that
Yikes. Back in the day when I went to university, I had a friend who was voluptuous. That really was the first impression I got. Yes, her body was a larger side than most of the girls I encountered. But she made an amazing first impression, with her huge eyes, gorgeous smile, infectious laugh, and every weekend guys were tripping over each other asking her out. She had her pick. Nicola Coughlan is stunning, has the most charming accent, and she actually has moral principles. She is superb. And that carriage scene with Colin... 🔥🔥🔥
Some people don’t like to see other people succeed. They want to covet that success and feel they can by trashing the target-especially when they think they’re better than the target.
Nicola is perfect for the Role. Pen was never skinny in the book. Also skinny is not equal healthy and beautiful. Nicola is stunning and I think that she being natural is what makes her look so young 😍 She is 37!
It brings to mind this exchange from the Pokémon anime: JESSIE: There was something that prevented me from having friends when I was a little girl. JAMES: Hahahaha, it must've been your personality!
Nicola is not fat! She is a size 10 which isnt even a plus size. She has an average body weight. The fact that the writer kept saying she was not hot is terrible. Espeically, since beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Being short, booby, blonde and irish too i bloody adore nicola as a person. She is funny, humble, intelligent and is not anti semetic like she has been accused of. Ireland supports palestine decades. We dont like bullies.. or genocides. Ive been horrified of the zionist trolling on every post about her. She is a brilliant actress. Supportive to her co stars. I also read a piece in the guardian who kept mentioning her size and outspoken and irish. It irritated me beyond belief. However this one is even more horrendous
Nicola is one of the most gorgeous and ethereal people I’ve ever seen. Gosh I don’t even like bridgerton storyline but I binge watch the clips with Penelope and sit through all the promotional videos just to see Nicola. I remember when my friend first recommended bridgerton and I watched it without much interest but Nicola instantly grabbed my attention when she appeared on the screen. She’s is just so so so pretty. Her bright yellow outfits may have been selected with the purpose to point out the featherington’s weird sense of fashion but she looked like real life Belle in those. There’s no doubt the author of the article was targeting her cause of her political views. With that being said, free 🇵🇸
I don't even think saying nicola is hot (which is true) is necessary. she could be fat and ugly and it still wouldn't excuse this journalist saying a hot guy falling for her isn't "plausible." gorgeous women are expected to put vanity aside and give ugly men a chance, but it's somehow impossible to believe a hot guy would see past physical looks and fall for his close friend who is supportive and loves him? yes, nicola is absolutely stunning, but even if she wasn't, it wouldn't somehow lend credence to that article's legitimacy. believing only beautiful women "deserve" to be with beautiful men is 100% internalized misogyny.
the "dear reader" is referencing Lady Whistledown (won't spoil it for you if you haven't watched Bridgerton from the start) as a reasonably straight older woman (also a redhead and a bit overweight) I am happy to proclaim that I find Penelope/Nicola pleasing to the eye - after all, if you take appearance as the only factor when considering attractiveness you're setting yourself up to being judged solely on your appearance as well (though we're definitely judging you by the content of your article). I'd choose Nicola over Zoe any day - in a totally platonic fangirl-crush way, since she's funny and interesting, and that accent is to die for
You just know this 'journalist' 🙄 doesn't believe that fatphobia is a thing. Nicola Coughlan is such a wonderful person who is trying to use her platform to help others ❤ Also I really recommend Abbey Cox's video colab with Safiya Nygaard in Williamsburg. She takes her behind the scenes to some of their historical dress pieces and look at different stays, bodices and discuss how there was a diversity of body sizes in history, its just that clothing is difficult to find as it was reused/repurposed a lot of the time x x x
She has to be plus sized for this exact reason.. to normalize on screen what is already normalized in real life. For these exact people who have fat-phobia in 2024.. Ps. Colin isn't a ten either, they don't have to be, not every movie couple is a ten, thank GOD!
Great video! You have a great way of expressing the truth of that matter. Also, extra points on sharing my friend Becca's tweet. (I love that tweet too.)
Loved your take. Not only is Nicola an incredible actress, my god she had us all believing he was really all up in there… that’s talent. She’s fucking gorgeous and I wish I was half as pretty. Zoe is one of those women that self loathe and will die alone. I will too but for different reasons.
Nicola is a UK size 10, a US size 6, btw which isn’t considered plus size at all, she’s not fat. I know people want to hold her up as a role model of plus size but she’s actually not and has talked about how it makes her uncomfortable and shared her size because she was tired of being called the big one. It’s horrifying that the media has told us someone that looks like her is fat, let alone ugly, when she is neither. I know a lot of plus sized women look to her and celebrate that someone that looks like her is getting a lot of love but using the words plus sized or fat to describe her, even in positive tones, is incorrect and does a disservice to changing the perception of and language around what’s considered a normal body. Fat phobia needs to end but using someone with very normal sizing as a role model to further the cause actually does more harm than good. It’s incredibly good to celebrate body diversity in media, which she can be a great example of, but not at the expense of continuing to perpetuate that an actor is by any means plus size outside that realm where most women are expected to be model thin only. My historical plus size costuming group had a really good discussion about this with the newest season having started to come out and people still perceiving her as plus sized despite her being open about her sizing and talking about her discomfort at the words used about her body. I feel lots of these comments are positive in intention but still miss the mark due to how media is portraying her still and influencing our thoughts and people still talking about her body, or really anyone’s body.
She is not fat, just because she is not a size 0-4 doesn’t mean she is fat! She is very pretty and she has a voluptuous figure! She is so cute, a lot of people thinks she is attractive! I am one of them! I like Luke Newton, but he is not a ten! He is okay, but a perfect ten, no!
I am straight and usually not attracted to chubbier people but even I think she is so adorable and pretty and I would date her in a heartbeat so honestly, WTF. Also, she is not fat! she is chubby
I Love Nicola to the moon and back! Her acting work in Derry Girls, Big Mood, and Bridgerton is fantastic and so great to see her on screen! I'm utterly disgusted by the fact someone thinks it's ok to write something so horrid about someone. Nicola's weight does not and should not affect her acting! The critics can hate all they want, but she's a beautiful, kind, respectful, and hard-working woman. She doesn't deserve any hate for this, and I can't wait to see her in Bridgerton S3 pt 2 in the next couple of weeks! Don't let your body affect your life or work, girls. You are beautiful inside and out
Reading these comments and the responses has given me so much hope the way this would have been received when I was a kid is soooo different from now and it warms my heart. Clap back yall!
I am very sad, very really sad that society still calls ugly what is not really ugly. The article is really written very abominably. I love her role in the Bridgertons, and she played in the third season just amazing. Thanks to this actress, my self-esteem rises, and this allows me to develop a healthy love for myself and my body. Nikola helps me feel better and work on myself in the right way. She is an amazing actress and a real beauty. Unfortunately, the sick standards will not soon disappear from society, and such articles are likely to still appear from different authors.
I actually was looking forward to Nicola’s Penelope because I’ve struggled with seeing myself as sexy as a plus-size woman. When I was younger I didn’t have sex because I honestly believed that fat people didn’t have sex. Seeing representation has helped this inner girl child heal.
Nicola is absolutely gorgeous, this person is bonkers. I couldn't take my eyes off her in every single scene she was in this season. This 'journalist' (bully, more like), is clearly bitter about Nicola's talent and success
It might be interesting to note that Penelope was overweight in the books and well, yes, Julia Quinn did slim her out before she was allowed to have her happily ever after. I like that Shonda didn't because Colin loved her for who she was
I am pretty sure they liked curvy women in the Regency era. Nicola is drop dead gorgeous. I never know who to look at, Pen or Colin, they are both so gorgeous 😍
Some people, women and men alike, hate to see pretty chubby girls be happy, celebrated or the center of attention. I’ve always been thicker than my girlfriends but never had a shortage of suitors. Men will hit on me and if I don’t return the attention, some of them immediately resort to attacking my body and calling me fat- like they weren’t just trying to get close to me. We’re sold an image of what is supposed to be the ultimate hot body and when a women falls outside of that narrow framework and yet is unarguably beautiful, society has to shame them cause it disturbs the narrative. It’s sad
I love the fact that Nicola is everywhere. I think she 's a great actress with lots of talent. She is a brilliant Penelope Featherington and a brilliant romantic lead.
I was shocked when I read it. She is gourges and seems so nice. I should be embarred by the fact that this woman has been on my screen 24/7 since season 3 came out, but I'm not.
Honestly, I thought Penelope was beautiful (waay better than sexy.) She has it all!!! She's smart, she's has lovely hair, shes funny and pretty!!! Therefore she is beautiful!!! (both inside and out)
I googled Zoe Strimpel, she is no one to be criticizing Nicola on how she looks. To really fight back, you give those type of people who body shame women the same energy they dish out. Example: Strimpel, is no one to be criticizing Nicola, I saw her picture, her hair looks like it could be used for a brillo pad. To be brutally honest Nicola is way more beautiful than Zoe. Zoe doesn't exactly look like Ms. Universe herself. People like Zoe have no problem insulting women on the internet, but when people insult them (especially on their looks). They will have a conniption fit.
I think Zoe is a beautiful woman, but of course there is no comparison to Nicola Coughlan who is just smoking hot. I actually feel kinda sorry for Zoe as she obviously internalised chubby/fat = ugly. So I guess she finds herself ugly, too :/ I wish we could just all lift each other up and appreciate different kinds of beauty.
He is mid, at most a 6. He is extremely lucky to have Nicola. A ten would be Rege Jean Page, but looks back in the time synonymous to Bridgerton were less important, especially for men. Even the women were measured more for their behavior. A pretty but unkind and unacceptable woman was equally reviled, by both men and women, and as such, her reputation is ruined. Even the Gibson girls of the early 1900s were expected to dress modestly and behave and be of good character. The average man back in the day, especially successful men, did not marry the scarlet women but the more homely and proper women on their level in terms of character and industriousness and respectability. And even the scarlet women who were supposedly desired still had to have good character to some degree in public, if only to appease the masses back then. Also, beauty standards are different back then. Did she even LOOK at the paintings from the 1800s? Women who were "plump" were desirable too. Supermodel standards of today are actually considered masculine back in the day, almost boyish. Said Zionist is operating from today's Instagram world standards. Also, the ideal models today are expected to look like porn stars. Back then, if you looked that way, you were an ideal mistress scarlet woman who slept around for favors. What's considered beautiful today was only good for courtesans back then. It's really sad, because if any of those Instagram models who had any sense had a choice, I bet all of them would much rather earn their bread and butter being talented at stuff contributing to society's progress. Not a single person modeling on Instagram or porn wants to remain that ways forever. Sexually attractive looks can only go so far, and frankly I don't want to be a woman who looks that ways and sells herself to multiple men (or anyone).
@@jessicatsao92as for Rege…let’s just say he’s a bit too sweet for my tastebuds LOL. He’s a but too pretty. But Collin with tbat openmouthed look he thinks is sexy 😂😂
So Nicola should deserve a guy with Chris Hemsworth look and body? You all are hypocrites. Calling a healthy fit man mid and not suitable for unhealthy fat woman.
This is why CBT didn't help me with social anxiety as much as people told me it would. I can tell my brain that people don't look at me and don't care and aren't paying attention. But all the times people have gone out of their way to let me know how horrible it is that I'm fat just won't let my brain believe that. And every time I see someone talking shit about fat people like this just reminds me how much people go out of their way to think about fat people. Like the sort of people that take pictures of fat women in gym changing rooms and then post it on the internet. Actual thing that actual people (several) have done.
Let’s shame the reporter out of her career!! Shame on that awful awful reporter!😡😡Nicola is GORGEOUS and I love that she is strong and confident and beautiful! Much love to this beautiful woman! Thank you for this report Happy Pancake❤❤
It's so sad to me that not only do we have to get hatred from men about our (women) bodies.. but also women do it to other women as well ughhh I hate it here
I loved the Penelope character in books, and I love Nicola's portrayal of her. I never for one second thought that she wasn't Penelope. If anything, I was disappointed by Colin's casting.
This is the second video I watched where someone discussed the horrible things this lady weote about Nicola. Thank you for your commentary. I hope people donate
There is something so bizarre about when people can’t accept that people are attracted not only by someone’s soul, but they are attracted to what they are attracted to. And as long as both are of legal age and there isn’t a power dynamic where one partner is dominating the other, let people love who they love.
Everyone who has at least half of a brain knows beauty is subjective - we see beauty by our own preferences, by what we find attractive. I talked with three of my friends (two guys and one girl) about this season - buddy Oliver sees Penelope as basic looking with nice hairstyles, Charlie said she’s extremly attractive but red lipstick is just not for her, for me she became quite beautiful and looks great in green and blue but our girl Ruth on the other side finds her ugly (even if she loves her recent fashion taste) - and that’s fine, we all have our preferences. Considering this, I’ll NEVER understand why anyone feels the need to write that kind of article. The way she talks about Penelope, like there’s NO WAY anyone could ever find her attractive, is just disgusting. And the part where she writes about how it’s unbelievable and even impossible for Colin to fall in love in her. I don’t know, maybe he simply finds her attractive? Maybe her „atributes” fits his damn PREFERENCES? How insecure you have to be about yourself to write that kind of article. It also gives a lot of personal vibes 😂
The average size in America is a 14, last I checked. Lots of us are loved passionately and getting proposed to. Having babies with us. Spending their lives with us. We are the romantic leads of our own lives. Why not in Bridgerton?
Nicola is absolutely _gorgeous!!!_ And sexy as hell 😍 She is an incredible actress, as are the other cast actors, and I'm happy to admit I'm obsessed with Bridgerton!
Zoe Stimpel RESPONDED (New video out now): th-cam.com/video/ks54AcpaVkQ/w-d-xo.html
*Sorry for the sound cutting out at the very end. The song I used for the outro got copyright claimed for some reason? Even though it's supposedly a royalty free song? idk.
Anyway, thanks for being here :)
Did you see her double down in her “worst week ever” nonsense piece?!? She whines about being the victim of consequences.
@@Factsarebetterthan you have to love it when someone shares an unsolicited opinion of nonsense and vitriol one day and the next is crying, "Wahhhh! I've fallen and landed on the consequences of my actions and can't get up!"
Thanks for putting out this video. I'm new to your channel and not sure how YT steered me to something tagged with Bridgerton, but I am going to assume it is your left-leaning political/queer vibe goodness that led me along this path. I appreciated the way you cut through the nonsense of the article to the underlying cores of Zionism and self-loathing on the part of the author. I'm subscribed now and look forward to your future content.
We would have a boring world if we were all same
Bad actors will put in claims for copyright free music, it takes a while for the system to catch up with it's own stupidity.
The way she had to pepper in "she's fat--not that there's anything wrong with that!!!!" despite the fact that she spends the entire article talking about how wrong and bad and ugly it is. People are so exhausting sometimes, legitimately.
of course she's a Zionist lmfao godddddddddddddddd
Genuinely!! like she wanted to say all these terrible things and get NO heat from it. I simply will not abide.
Fat shaming is sickening and weak. If that's what another person has to rant about that is pathetic and cruel. I'm trim now, was thin my whole life, until I hit my mid-forties and my Mom was diagnosed with terminal cancer. I did everything to be healthy and practically starved myself to drop the weight, but menopause makes it incredibly difficult. And then my mother's diagnosis, my own health issues, and severe depression was a nightmare combination and I stopped trying to be healthy so I gained even more weight. I learned that when I was obese I became invisible to the people around me. I never knew how cruel people could be and the insane stereotypes that sprout from that ignorance. I did eventually do intermittent fasting and switched to keto and then carnivore diet. And then I suddenly had people telling me how great I looked and all of the positive comments that meant that they clearly thought I was a lost cause when I was heavy. It's telling. And then I had unwelcome advances from men again, because I was no longer invisible. It's really disturbing. I'm the same person,just in a smaller frame. The actress is lovely and sorry to hear all of this flack. People really are cruel.
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It might have been your menopause as well but starving yourself can actually stop your body from losing weight. When a person suddenly stops eating their body goes into 'starvation mode', thinking it's due to a lack of food available the body automatically does whatever it can to store as much energy as possible and your mind will try and get you eating more after you have food.
Ah, the old "I'm sorry, but..." to avoid taking heat for being cruel.
I don't even watch Bridgerton but I've seen this actress around and she's really pretty. So imagine my shock when she's been called "ugly". Ugly?? Why the heck would she-? Ohhhh. She's fat. Well.
I'm just so tired of people pretending fat=ugly.
Same. It's wild. I'm glad I'm not the only person that had this reaction.
"fat=ugly" That's South Park and Family Guy in a nutshell.
While my friends and I were watching the newest season of Bridgerton we all agreed that she is so pretty
If Penelope is ugly I might as well cut my loses and give up now
This is not surprising I grew up in the 90s and women who were half her size were fat shamed in Hollywood and then people were surprised we had issues with eating disorders at that time.
The mean girl who wrote this article is just jealous that Nicola is 37 but looks like she is 25!
Absolutely! I am a huge fan of Derry Girls and even though I knew she wasn’t a teen or in her early twenties I was shocked that she was 37. She looks amazing. I’m jealous as hell.
I'M SORRY SHE'S HOW OLD?
@@princessazulaofthefirenati5870It’s crazy, isn’t it? Clearly she’s a witch.
I had no idea she was older than me!
37? Omg
What I hate is that the article writer said Penelope's body isn't described in the books...dude, it's very well described.
She is chubby at 15-17. Her book is set when she's 27, where she's gained more freedom, is firmly "on the shelf" and is a very busy businesswoman and author. Which has kead to her losing some baby fat, but she's still supposed to be fatter than her peers. And Colin loooves her curves.
The casting is perfect.
The problem is messing with the timeline. It messes up the character development.
Exactly, i was So happy that they cast an actress who resemble the book describtion.
Uhmmm the book covers says a different story.
@@havensohn3821 ohh i see for you reading books end up on title and cover XD
@@havensohn3821Book covers are often generic AF.
@@VAL420 😂😂 the saying literally says the cover is not enough
The jury isn’t out, all Bridgerton fans LOVE HER. She’s fabulous beautiful, vivacious and an all around wonderful person. She awesome inside and out.
RIGHT?
It really depends on the person. Some people just are great, doesn't matter how much they weight. Nicola is perfect, I will see her, regardless of her weight, because she as a person is so interesting and beautiful. While others are not likable regardless if they're skinny or fat, it shows.
Yeah, she’s great! Excited for pt 2 coming out today
She's the reason we are still watching. I mean their story was book 4 but it's being shown ahead of Benedict's story because we can't wait anymore 😅
I personally am not a fan. She has exactly ONE facial expression.
Being overweight is a huge health risk worse than smoking.
Why are we suddenly glorifying it?
She should lose at least 40 pounds.
Meanwhile the majority of "fat" girls I know are happily married to a man who is obsessed with her. Nicola is gorgeous and is clearly winning.
Right? Fat redhead here, living her best life!
Yes I'm getting married to my fat gf, and every other woman I dated has be coincidentally fat (I'm attracted to all sizes, I've just always ended up with a plus size woman). I know plenty of other guys who are into fat women and theres a reason why theres a huge subsection of p0rn dedicated to fat women and fat onlyfans models are successful.
I have seen many men who think "fat" is better. And not just black men
We live in different worlds. Majority of fat women I know have trouble with men, either because the men don't like them and are just using them, or that the men simply avoid them at all costs.
Me! That’s me! “Fat girl” who is engaged to a 6’4” toned and built, dark and handsome man. He loves me, curves and all. Over the last 3 years he’s made me learn to love myself because HE adores me.
Might I add: all Bridgerton fans were waiting for season 3 like mad, knowing that Nic would be Penelope (for obvious reasons). We were expecting her, and Shonda is no fool: if Nicola weren't attractive enough, would she have cast her for season 1 knowing what would come? Would she have invested in all that parafernalia and publicity not knowing for sure she was scoring a hit?
Exactly This !!!
Honestly, Penelope always carried extra baby fat. That baby fat matured into curves that drove Colin wild. I was terrified that they would not stay true to their story and would make Nicola lose weight for her glow up. I am so thankful that they did not chicken out and that Nicola is allowed to shine in this role! Yes, I have absolutely been waiting for this season since season 1!
@@divekatdreaming And that baby fat just came from ill-fitting gowns. What you see as maturing into curves is a deliberate change of dress styles to flatter Nicola's shape.
@@GuineaPig361 Actually, I was not describing Nicola. I was describing the character of Penelope who she plays. The author did not write the character as slim, and It would have been an absolute cop out and disservice to cast a skinny actress in the part or to force Nicola to skinny up. She would no longer have fit the character or their love story.
@@divekatdreaming Oh! It just lined up perfectly with the costume changes.
That article was oddly personal
i completely agree
It’s because Nicola is ProPalestine and that publication is conservative so that’s why they tried coming for her
@@stellarjen13exactlyyyyyy
@@stellarjen13 thank you for clarifying that. I was really baffled at the intensity and emotion of the attack.
This reporter’s insecurities are through the roof
There are far more women who look like Nicola than there are women who don't. Fatphobia is wild.
THIS
Even if there weren’t, who cares? Beauty is not contingent upon being a specific size, I’m entirely confused by people who say it is. The author of the article seems the kind of girl who believes that if the standard of beauty begins to include more diversity, her romantic options will dwindle 😂
I wish I looked like her and I have a "normal" BMI. She is blessed not only with a doll face and perfect skin, she is smart, deeply intelligent, witty, good humored and on top of it she is completely unaware of her charm. I am just... slim.
@@mariafranciscabertoglio6759 You seem like a really kind, well-spoken person. Don't sell yourself short.
I would love to look like Nicola ❤ she is beautiful. Inside and outside
Why is a woman's "hotness" her only value? Can people not fall in love over things other than surface appearance? Brigerton seems to think that people can want more. Do only hot people get married in the real world?
I literally fell in love with Nicola from the first moment I saw her in Bridgerton, she was so cute even in those yellow dresses, and she gave such a sensual aura in season 3.
She’s also such a good, wellspoken person, smart and kind, she’s my celebrity crush (hope that’s not weird).
The blatant mix of fatphobia and sexism in the article is disgusting, Colin a ten and Nicola not hot?! They are both so attractive!
I can’t believe an adult supposed to be more mature and smart than me wrote something so horrid...
A plumper figure used to be the standard for noble woman, the Regency era admired ancient Greece, Aphrodite the Goddess of love and sensuality had a tummy. So as much as Bridgerton is not historically accurate Penelope is the beauty standard that they looked for.
She seems like such a lovely person. She's a very talented actress and so gorgeous
Agreed! 100%!!
I must add those two are more attractive due to personality than looks. I mean, Colin looks good, but technically Anthony should be "hotter" and I think he sucks in comparison to Colin, who is hot, smart, kind and overall adorable. Same about Pen. She's smart, has some ambitions and tries to be kind (though she regularly screws up). I think the actors are cute, but I like the characters even better.
Exactly! Also, today's beauty standards are so restrictive and tunnel vision like (Kim Kardashian body, Megan Fox face, blonde and tan) and considering Colin's looks (he's clearly no 10), he is very lucky to have Nicola. Penelope looks perfectly at home amongst flowers and 1800s paintings, and that was the standard of beauty back then. Also, keep in mind, back then, pale rosy skin and natural long hair and considerably less makeup (more natural) was the ideal.
Looking at statues of old times, we just see women some incels would have torn apart with stupid words today.
Some women are always sooooo mad when fat women are being loved when they are still single, because it’s as if their world view/messages they received (that being fat is unworthy of love) is shattered. Like girl, there are people who love plus sized women. We are lovable and worthy of love. It’s like that one episode of Community when the doctor said (paraphrased from my memory, sorry I can’t find the exact quote), “We’re all made of ground beef! Nothing about our body is made to last forever.” And in response, the fitness obsessed Jeff says, (paraphrased), “Do you know how many donuts I gave up to look like this?! I want my donuts back.” Life is short. None of us live forever (even those of us who kill ourselves trying to achieve some ideal of body perfection that doesn’t even exist). I’m not encouraging obesity by saying just let yourself go, but you can in fact enjoy things in moderation and actually enjoy the gift of life if you stop obsessing over how your body looks. Stop being mad about it and enjoy a damn donut. 🍩
Some conventionally attractive people will be vicious towards anyone who doesn't look like them and gets more male attention than them. It's pick me behavior, Cressida behavior. She's a little overweight and still a ten. Some people's ego wakes the bully in them. This person could have done this for clicks too.
Very good point. The author is avoiding having to confront that she may be considered unattractive because of her ugly personality above all else.
it's not journalism, it's bullying. so unprofessional
In additional funny, all the male reaction channels who are doing Bridgerton are entirely in agreement that Penelope is hot and that it is reasonable for Colin to be head over heels with her.
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My problem was that I didn't think Colin was hot enough for her 💀. Like Colin is a beautiful man, but Penelope is just... Damn.
@@jessjess23brooks89 no hate to the actor/character but at some points during their scenes I did think you could replace him with a mop with a wig on and I probably wouldn't have noticed just because I was so focused on how hot Nicola was
@@rosieevans8960 Agreed. I felt so bad watching because she looked like a delicious little cake and he was just, well... He was there.
lmaoo damn, honestly i agree (i am hella gay tho lol) but i do think a large part of that was poor writing for his character, especially in the new season. penelope’s character has a lot more depth and i feel was better and more carefully developed, while colin’s was much more rushed and made me quickly lose the little bit of interest i had in him as a character. they’re both very attractive people, (personally i find nicola much more attractive but as far as my sexuality goes i’m biased😭), but colins (idk his actual name) writing made him a lot less attractive i think
What I really don’t understand is acting like a subjective concept like hotness has universal rules for everyone. It freaking does not. Hotness is in the eye of the beholder. We might say someone is “conventionally attractive” to mean what is accepted in popular culture, but that means diddly to the average person who gets to make up their own damn mind. I think we’ve finally grown up enough to not believe Hollywood standards have to work for everyone.
Absolutely 100%
This is such a good insight, what society deems atractive is not what every individual is atracted to.
I never thought about it like that, thank you for opening my eyes.
@@Marcia-vl2yh Romantically, it only matters what ONE person thinks (in monogamy anyway) and professionally or socially being average can have higher advantages than being “hot”-especially as a woman. I wish people would realize how completely made up the system really is so much of the time. Understand it, use it to your advantage when you can, and then discard it as mostly nonsense for your own peace of mind.
@@andianderson3017 The system puts so much pressure on people who simply are the way they are, it's toxic and hurtful! Beauty is what one perceives as beautiful.
Yeah, the writer was talking about Nicola's appearance as if it's an objective fact rather than her own nasty opinion
Nicola is the whole reason I decided to watch Bridgerton. I saw a clip of Penelope and Colin and couldn't believe there was a female lead who looked like me in a romance like Bridgerton. Not only was she the lead, not only was she beautiful, but she was PORTRAYED as beautiful. It meant the world to me. Watched S3 that night, read RMB the next day, and I'm absolutely obsessed. The fact that Nicola is not only stunning and an amazing actress, but is also kind, has compassionate politics, and uses her platform for charity... Nicola is a gem.
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I've been skinny my whole life, and I honestly can't understand someone would think Nicola is not hot or attractive enough to play a romantic MC in a TV show. To me, she's extremely attractive, and I've been waiting for her glow up and her story to be told from the very beginning. Couples like Colin and Pen exist in real world, and they're also being bullied for the fact one of them is "not hot" and therefore undeserving to be loved by their "hot" counterpart. To the author of this sorry excuse of an article: please, stop projecting your own bias and shallow mindset on the rest of the human population. Not all of us "love" with their eyes, and not all of us are into skinny, shredded people. Plus size women are attractive, desirable and lovable as well. I'm sorry for the author, honestly, more than for Nicola. What an empty shell.
It’s crazy to me that people STILL have this mindset of thin = beautiful, fat = ugly. It just screams of immaturity and callousness. Any person over the age of 12 could tell you that a persons attractiveness is subjective, and that it’s unkind to ridicule the looks of complete and utter strangers. I know that the writer of this article must have extremely little shame and actual comprehensive abilities, judging by the way they talk about the very easily understood idea of intersectionality, but I truly hope that somehow they will gain just a tiny, eeny sense of self awareness and be embarrassed at what a crappy writer they are that all they could do to gain traction was to leech off of Nicola’s well deserved fame rn 💀!
My thoughts exactly.
a 12 year old has more maturity than those people
That's incel logic. What do you think of "not finding a nice guy who is aesthetically challenged attractive just screams of immaturity and callousness?"
Blatant fat-shaming and projection aside:
It's so funny because the entire point of Penelope and Colin is not that they met and were instantly attracted to each other like Anthony and Kate, they met when they were children and have grown up together. Penelope fell in love with Colin from afar but never said anything and Colin only realised what he had once he matured enough to realise what he wanted in a partner. It's nothing to do with "hotness" and everything to do with mutual attraction. My only conclusion is that the hole in the air who wrote this drivel has never watched Bridgerton.
This would have still been nuts if Nicola wasn't conventionally attractive, but she literally is. She's an obviously beautiful woman.
Leads don’t have to be “hot” ~ they must be great actors. Nicola is lovely n rounded in all the right places! She is a wonderful actress n has a great friendly personality. Folks should focus on the story NOT looks. She is wonderful n bubbly n talented.
except she is hot !!! she’s literally one of the most beautiful people i’ve ever seen
True, but I'd say she IS hot. This writer thinks that Fat and Beautiful are antonyms. They're not. Nicola is big AND beautiful
She is hot by old standards. Ignore the tan supermodel standard, and think back to the 1800s paintings. Frankly, I like that standard of beauty more, because it is much more focused on pretty and much less on pornographic looks. (And even that is very debatable, if you go back to the early 1800s)
*Mic drop*
There's lots of lesbians in the thread, lol
@@hayley179gWhat's your problem with lesbians? Please explain, exactly, why it's a bad thing?
Honestly, analysis aside, the article is just so mean. Like, seriously, just unkind. I don't watch the show but the actor is adorable. Even if she weren't what it's the point of all this?
exactly!!
The point WAS to be mean. The author is a Zionist and this is a thinly-veiled attempt at personally attacking Nicola and her fans over her support of Palestine. The cruelty is the point.
Women were bigger back then and it was considered healthy-it wasnt 2024
exactly and being bigger meant you could afford MASS AMMOUNTS OF SUGAR and therefore had cash money and that was a big green flag for marital candidates back in the day
excellent point.
I love how after doing some digging the journalist is a Zionist… hmmm
This is true. I am reading Les liaisons dangereuses which was published in the late 1700s and “plump” is used to describe the woman being lusted over. It meant you were healthy and represented potential wealth because you could afford food.
Right and if I remember correctly wasn’t is also a sign of wealth. The more food you could eat it meant you could buy more food. The skinny ppl were the ones who were considered peasants bc they couldn’t afford the same food
They literally used 'dimpled elbows' as a descriptor for a beautiful woman; i.e., plump arms were attractive.
Elbows are dimpled on many body shapes.
@@hayley179g Maybe so, but I assure you, kid me spent a minute or so twisting her arms around in confusion, trying to figure out _where_ on the elbow one might conceivably have dimples.
I think the "Dear Reader" part is her way to reference Bridgerton, where Lady Whistledown writes "Dear Gentle Reader" in her column. Also Nicola is a very normal size, she is about US size 6, I'd say. Thank you for this piece!
To quote Clare from Derry Girls "I'm not interested in you like that, look at the state of you" to the person who wrote that article
lmaooo love this
Hmm, I have exactly her height and roughly her weight/body shape and I wear a US size 10-14. But of course, it always depends on proportions.
I get your point but girl, she's not a size 6, she's 10-14 which is still a normal weight
You know I read that crap yesterday, and I was disgusted with what I read. Nicola is a doll😍
so glad I'm not the only one.
Nothing written in the Spectator should ever be taken seriously. Trash.
i think only crazy people would think fat= ugly. I have seen girls in bigger size that is prettier than the slimmer one. For me confidence should be the standards.
Honestly, why would you even write something that will surely hurt someone. I don't understand the cruelty..if you have these kind of thoughts..just keep them to yourself. Nicola seems like a sweet and caring person and this article is just hot garbage.
I completely agree
the moment in minute 4 when you read over the subtle mention of jews being not accepted as a minority i had the feeling this whole think piece was not about nicola being hot
lmao I'm glad I wasn't the only one. Zoe is not subtle.
I realized that from when I saw Nicola promoting helping Palestine...I said that's it! Nothing to do with her looks...but jealousy kills this writer too!
I love Nicola!!! She's such a beautiful person. This writer is just a hater.
1. The actress is absolutely stunning 2. Ofc the author is a zioni$t, gross 3. love that you actually talk about the gen0c1de going on, idk how people go about life as if it isn't happening right now
thank you for being here and using her voice as well :) I'm just doing what I can with the influence I have.
Pen is hotter than Colin
When the carriage scene came on it hit me like a brick in the face how rare it is to see a plus-sized woman in a big budget movie/series and i LOVED it! I want MORE representation from "normal" looking women and men in movies and TV, not less. Sure, i love seeing beautiful people on the screen and i absolutely love seeing all the actresses that work their ass off to look as good (and often thin) as possible (they deserve the praise for their work, god knows i couldn't do it... Size 2 my ass!) but representing average size and plus size women (and men, too, but there is a long list of "normal" looking men being paired with gorgeos women *coughcough* Adam Sandler...) is so important and we definitely need MORE of it and to stop pretending like love is only for beautiful people. The last years in TV did really good in that regard, i think.
i honestly don't understand why this author would write and publish this. she says that being fat is not bad, yet shames Nicola's beauty on the basis of her body. Nicola is absolutely beautiful. it baffles me that people stuff believe that their body = attractiveness
on a side note, this is the first time i've stumbled upon your channel and i'll definitely be coming back :)
I completely agree! Also, thank you! I appreciate you being here!
I feel like a lot of the discussions I’ve seen about whether she is fat or chubby or plus or plump or midsized or whatever miss the point but you nailed it. It’s so unbelievably silly and reductive to try to categorize a human being as “hot” or “not hot”, especially when it’s obviously going to be highly subjective and complex and based on so many factors other than body fat percentage.
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Yes, but free the hostages, too!
It’s worth mentioning that the ‘journalist’ who wrote this article is a Zionist and it’s unsurprising that she targeted Nicola given how vocal she has been about her support for Palestine and also recently raised around 1.7 million dollars via a fundraiser for Palestinian children’s fund.
The ‘journalist’ who wrote this article is a zi*nist. Not surprised at all that she targeted Nicola given how vocal she has been about her support for Palestine and also raised around 1.7 million dollars for the Palestinian children’s fund.
@@sandyberger-r9j Isreal has made it very clear that ot doesn't care about the hostages. Hamas have offered to free them several times under promise of a ceasefire, but Isreal just answered with bombs and bullets.
Isreal only care that they can use the hostages as an excuse to murder innocent people, and they don't care if the hostages are among the dead bodies. They never cared.
It’s ridiculous that we have to entertain the notion that NC is somehow not 💯 a baddie. That she doesn’t have mad cap appeal that she isn’t throwing people into bisexual manic panic on the daily. Like I can respect not everybody’s cup of tea….fine. However those people are deadass incorrect and I need more!
period
If something is not your cup of tea, you leave it alone. This is more like I am mean and lowkey envious of the attention.
@@mariafranciscabertoglio6759 Its like they're mad about finding her attractive, and its silly 😞
As someone who’s been compared to her twice, your comment made my night!
Nicola is stunning. And let's face it, even the most beautiful person can become incredibly ugly if they are vicious and mean
I know a few men who are only attracted to larger women. Whether this is a fetish or just what they find attractive I can’t tell you. But I do know that all of the women they have dated have been very attractive, outgoing, fun , bubbly personalities. The guys are attractive fit guys too. To say you can’t have a “fat” romantic heroine is ridiculous.
Aren't beauty standards of women having to be skinny relatively new in human history? I thought that curvier women (not necessarily morbidly obese but what we would consider overweight all the same) be considered quite rare and thus attractive out of limited commodity back then? I could be wrong, any history buffs out there willing to confirm or deny?
In any case, as a curvier woman myself I can say with assuredness that men will absolutely date women who aren't skinny, even the muscular/thinner sort of men whether the media wants to showcase that or not. I'm a woman who is currently dating someone who's much thinner than I am and who works out--it really isn't impossible, confidence goes a long way.
Yep, whatever traits people with resources had usually set the standard. Sometimes it’s being skinny, others it’s being fluffy.
She's NOT fat. Literally. She wouldn't be any less gorgeous if she were - but she's like a Size 8 or 10 AT THE MOST, if not a 6, with a large bust and round face, and she's 5'1. She's not even remotely plus sized - the first couple seasons dress her more unflatteringly to make her appear 'dowdy' so this season she could 'glow up' and look awesome, as she chooses more flattering dresses vs the crummy and ones her mom forces her to wear. Though I think its hilarious that she's quoting the character she's trying to INSULT with the 'Dear Reader' thing.
She has exactly my height and roughly the same weight and I would not consider myself as fat (and I'm European where people are slimmer in general). I think that the dresses of that era (really unflattering for her and my body shape) and her really round face are misleading for that. I know a very slim person with a very round face like hers and I always see her in my mind much heavier than she really is. Nonetheless: I know lots of very beautiful heavier people. And lots of non-slim people in relationship, no matter if conventionally attractive or not.
@@nriamond8010honestly same
No no no she is a thick girl, i am exactly the same height as her and i wear size 8 but i am petite. Nicola is not a size 8 Sis. She may be a size 12. I have been size 4/6/8/10 and at size 10 i was considered clinically obese due to my BMI and even then i was smaller in size than Nicola. Its okay for us to acknowledge that she is a both a thick lady and a very gorgeously stunning one at the same time.
@@dlilwon Nicola herself said she was a size 10 when filming season 1. I firmly believe her because a) the camera adds pounds so to speak and b) body type plays a big part in the appearance of size. So someone with bigger boobs and a round face is going to appear larger than someone of the same size who isn't quite as curvy and has a more elongated and thinner face.
Im same size as nicola. Heart shaped face, big boobs. Am 53 but look in my 30s apparently - not my own opinion before clapbacks. Most irish women look younger than ladies in sunnier climes as we get shite summers and less sun exposure and damage. So stuff like this attacks me too
I saw her first in Derry girls and then in Bridgerton. At no point did I think "uuh, she's ugly" She's such a beautiful, happy and glowing human. Some people just can't take that
Yikes. Back in the day when I went to university, I had a friend who was voluptuous. That really was the first impression I got. Yes, her body was a larger side than most of the girls I encountered. But she made an amazing first impression, with her huge eyes, gorgeous smile, infectious laugh, and every weekend guys were tripping over each other asking her out. She had her pick.
Nicola Coughlan is stunning, has the most charming accent, and she actually has moral principles. She is superb. And that carriage scene with Colin... 🔥🔥🔥
The writer is jealous
Some people don’t like to see other people succeed. They want to covet that success and feel they can by trashing the target-especially when they think they’re better than the target.
Nicola is perfect for the Role. Pen was never skinny in the book. Also skinny is not equal healthy and beautiful. Nicola is stunning and I think that she being natural is what makes her look so young 😍 She is 37!
It's wild to me that even in 2024 we still have people in the mindset that people who are fat cannot be physically attractive.
It's not a mindset. It's just that many people, if not most, aren't attracted to fat people, most of the time.
It brings to mind this exchange from the Pokémon anime:
JESSIE: There was something that prevented me from having friends when I was a little girl.
JAMES: Hahahaha, it must've been your personality!
Nicola is not fat! She is a size 10 which isnt even a plus size. She has an average body weight. The fact that the writer kept saying she was not hot is terrible. Espeically, since beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I think the dear reader refers to the narrator whistledown referring to the audience as dear reader every episode
Being short, booby, blonde and irish too i bloody adore nicola as a person. She is funny, humble, intelligent and is not anti semetic like she has been accused of. Ireland supports palestine decades. We dont like bullies.. or genocides. Ive been horrified of the zionist trolling on every post about her.
She is a brilliant actress. Supportive to her co stars.
I also read a piece in the guardian who kept mentioning her size and outspoken and irish. It irritated me beyond belief. However this one is even more horrendous
She's right those, Nicola isn't hot. She's absolutely breathtaking. And as someone who read the books, she played Penelope perfectly.
Thank you for saying geno-side (censored to help your algorithm) instead of calling it a war.
Nicola is one of the most gorgeous and ethereal people I’ve ever seen. Gosh I don’t even like bridgerton storyline but I binge watch the clips with Penelope and sit through all the promotional videos just to see Nicola. I remember when my friend first recommended bridgerton and I watched it without much interest but Nicola instantly grabbed my attention when she appeared on the screen. She’s is just so so so pretty. Her bright yellow outfits may have been selected with the purpose to point out the featherington’s weird sense of fashion but she looked like real life Belle in those. There’s no doubt the author of the article was targeting her cause of her political views. With that being said, free 🇵🇸
Everything that is published on The Spectator is trash.
What?! I think she’s so cute, her eyes are so entrancing. I feel like that article was made due to pure jealousy.
I don't even think saying nicola is hot (which is true) is necessary. she could be fat and ugly and it still wouldn't excuse this journalist saying a hot guy falling for her isn't "plausible." gorgeous women are expected to put vanity aside and give ugly men a chance, but it's somehow impossible to believe a hot guy would see past physical looks and fall for his close friend who is supportive and loves him? yes, nicola is absolutely stunning, but even if she wasn't, it wouldn't somehow lend credence to that article's legitimacy. believing only beautiful women "deserve" to be with beautiful men is 100% internalized misogyny.
the "dear reader" is referencing Lady Whistledown (won't spoil it for you if you haven't watched Bridgerton from the start)
as a reasonably straight older woman (also a redhead and a bit overweight) I am happy to proclaim that I find Penelope/Nicola pleasing to the eye - after all, if you take appearance as the only factor when considering attractiveness you're setting yourself up to being judged solely on your appearance as well (though we're definitely judging you by the content of your article). I'd choose Nicola over Zoe any day - in a totally platonic fangirl-crush way, since she's funny and interesting, and that accent is to die for
You just know this 'journalist' 🙄 doesn't believe that fatphobia is a thing. Nicola Coughlan is such a wonderful person who is trying to use her platform to help others ❤
Also I really recommend Abbey Cox's video colab with Safiya Nygaard in Williamsburg. She takes her behind the scenes to some of their historical dress pieces and look at different stays, bodices and discuss how there was a diversity of body sizes in history, its just that clothing is difficult to find as it was reused/repurposed a lot of the time x x x
oooh I'll have to check it out!
She has to be plus sized for this exact reason.. to normalize on screen what is already normalized in real life. For these exact people who have fat-phobia in 2024..
Ps. Colin isn't a ten either, they don't have to be, not every movie couple is a ten, thank GOD!
I’m glad there’s another woman who isn’t thrilled by the actor who plays Colin. There really are much more attractive men…
Great video! You have a great way of expressing the truth of that matter. Also, extra points on sharing my friend Becca's tweet. (I love that tweet too.)
Thank you so much! Definitely thank your friend Becca for me :)
Loved your take. Not only is Nicola an incredible actress, my god she had us all believing he was really all up in there… that’s talent. She’s fucking gorgeous and I wish I was half as pretty. Zoe is one of those women that self loathe and will die alone. I will too but for different reasons.
LMAO love this comment 💕 thank you for being here
“Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence” YES I had to pause the video to digest that what a perfect saying🎉
Nicola is STUNNING! And so talented.
And "Derry Girls" is fantastic.
"Dear reader," 😂 She isn't Wistledown
Nicola is a UK size 10, a US size 6, btw which isn’t considered plus size at all, she’s not fat. I know people want to hold her up as a role model of plus size but she’s actually not and has talked about how it makes her uncomfortable and shared her size because she was tired of being called the big one. It’s horrifying that the media has told us someone that looks like her is fat, let alone ugly, when she is neither. I know a lot of plus sized women look to her and celebrate that someone that looks like her is getting a lot of love but using the words plus sized or fat to describe her, even in positive tones, is incorrect and does a disservice to changing the perception of and language around what’s considered a normal body. Fat phobia needs to end but using someone with very normal sizing as a role model to further the cause actually does more harm than good. It’s incredibly good to celebrate body diversity in media, which she can be a great example of, but not at the expense of continuing to perpetuate that an actor is by any means plus size outside that realm where most women are expected to be model thin only.
My historical plus size costuming group had a really good discussion about this with the newest season having started to come out and people still perceiving her as plus sized despite her being open about her sizing and talking about her discomfort at the words used about her body. I feel lots of these comments are positive in intention but still miss the mark due to how media is portraying her still and influencing our thoughts and people still talking about her body, or really anyone’s body.
She is not fat, just because she is not a size 0-4 doesn’t mean she is fat! She is very pretty and she has a voluptuous figure! She is so cute, a lot of people thinks she is attractive! I am one of them! I like Luke Newton, but he is not a ten! He is okay, but a perfect ten, no!
I am straight and usually not attracted to chubbier people but even I think she is so adorable and pretty and I would date her in a heartbeat so honestly, WTF.
Also, she is not fat! she is chubby
I Love Nicola to the moon and back! Her acting work in Derry Girls, Big Mood, and Bridgerton is fantastic and so great to see her on screen! I'm utterly disgusted by the fact someone thinks it's ok to write something so horrid about someone. Nicola's weight does not and should not affect her acting! The critics can hate all they want, but she's a beautiful, kind, respectful, and hard-working woman. She doesn't deserve any hate for this, and I can't wait to see her in Bridgerton S3 pt 2 in the next couple of weeks!
Don't let your body affect your life or work, girls. You are beautiful inside and out
I almost feel sad for her but then again a horrible person like Miss Shrimp doesn't deserve my compassion, just disinterest.
Reading these comments and the responses has given me so much hope the way this would have been received when I was a kid is soooo different from now and it warms my heart. Clap back yall!
I am very sad, very really sad that society still calls ugly what is not really ugly. The article is really written very abominably. I love her role in the Bridgertons, and she played in the third season just amazing. Thanks to this actress, my self-esteem rises, and this allows me to develop a healthy love for myself and my body. Nikola helps me feel better and work on myself in the right way. She is an amazing actress and a real beauty. Unfortunately, the sick standards will not soon disappear from society, and such articles are likely to still appear from different authors.
Oh cool, another example to illustrate why I've had a mild eating disorder my entire life
I actually was looking forward to Nicola’s Penelope because I’ve struggled with seeing myself as sexy as a plus-size woman. When I was younger I didn’t have sex because I honestly believed that fat people didn’t have sex. Seeing representation has helped this inner girl child heal.
Nicola is absolutely gorgeous, this person is bonkers. I couldn't take my eyes off her in every single scene she was in this season. This 'journalist' (bully, more like), is clearly bitter about Nicola's talent and success
Penelope actually would be considered attractive for the times…most art and photos of women up until the 1920s were fuller figure.
It might be interesting to note that Penelope was overweight in the books and well, yes, Julia Quinn did slim her out before she was allowed to have her happily ever after. I like that Shonda didn't because Colin loved her for who she was
I am pretty sure they liked curvy women in the Regency era. Nicola is drop dead gorgeous. I never know who to look at, Pen or Colin, they are both so gorgeous 😍
Some people, women and men alike, hate to see pretty chubby girls be happy, celebrated or the center of attention. I’ve always been thicker than my girlfriends but never had a shortage of suitors. Men will hit on me and if I don’t return the attention, some of them immediately resort to attacking my body and calling me fat- like they weren’t just trying to get close to me. We’re sold an image of what is supposed to be the ultimate hot body and when a women falls outside of that narrow framework and yet is unarguably beautiful, society has to shame them cause it disturbs the narrative. It’s sad
I love the fact that Nicola is everywhere. I think she 's a great actress with lots of talent. She is a brilliant Penelope Featherington and a brilliant romantic lead.
If she isn’t ‘hot’ why are so many people attracted to her then? They need to try harder to make that make sense. She is stunning.
I was shocked when I read it. She is gourges and seems so nice. I should be embarred by the fact that this woman has been on my screen 24/7 since season 3 came out, but I'm not.
Honestly, I thought Penelope was beautiful (waay better than sexy.)
She has it all!!!
She's smart, she's has lovely hair, shes funny and pretty!!!
Therefore she is beautiful!!!
(both inside and out)
She reminds me of Jill Scott (if she were white) who is stunningly beautiful. I tried to find a side by side comparison but there are none…
I googled Zoe Strimpel, she is no one to be criticizing Nicola on how she looks. To really fight back, you give those type of people who body shame women the same energy they dish out.
Example: Strimpel, is no one to be criticizing Nicola, I saw her picture, her hair looks like it could be used for a brillo pad. To be brutally honest Nicola is way more beautiful than Zoe. Zoe doesn't exactly look like Ms. Universe herself.
People like Zoe have no problem insulting women on the internet, but when people insult them (especially on their looks). They will have a conniption fit.
I think Zoe is a beautiful woman, but of course there is no comparison to Nicola Coughlan who is just smoking hot.
I actually feel kinda sorry for Zoe as she obviously internalised chubby/fat = ugly. So I guess she finds herself ugly, too :/ I wish we could just all lift each other up and appreciate different kinds of beauty.
I’m sorry. Collin is a bit mid. How dare this woman.
He is mid, at most a 6. He is extremely lucky to have Nicola.
A ten would be Rege Jean Page, but looks back in the time synonymous to Bridgerton were less important, especially for men. Even the women were measured more for their behavior. A pretty but unkind and unacceptable woman was equally reviled, by both men and women, and as such, her reputation is ruined. Even the Gibson girls of the early 1900s were expected to dress modestly and behave and be of good character. The average man back in the day, especially successful men, did not marry the scarlet women but the more homely and proper women on their level in terms of character and industriousness and respectability. And even the scarlet women who were supposedly desired still had to have good character to some degree in public, if only to appease the masses back then. Also, beauty standards are different back then. Did she even LOOK at the paintings from the 1800s? Women who were "plump" were desirable too. Supermodel standards of today are actually considered masculine back in the day, almost boyish.
Said Zionist is operating from today's Instagram world standards. Also, the ideal models today are expected to look like porn stars. Back then, if you looked that way, you were an ideal mistress scarlet woman who slept around for favors. What's considered beautiful today was only good for courtesans back then.
It's really sad, because if any of those Instagram models who had any sense had a choice, I bet all of them would much rather earn their bread and butter being talented at stuff contributing to society's progress. Not a single person modeling on Instagram or porn wants to remain that ways forever. Sexually attractive looks can only go so far, and frankly I don't want to be a woman who looks that ways and sells herself to multiple men (or anyone).
@@jessicatsao92as for Rege…let’s just say he’s a bit too sweet for my tastebuds LOL. He’s a but too pretty. But Collin with tbat openmouthed look he thinks is sexy 😂😂
Mid through and through, totally 😑
So Nicola should deserve a guy with Chris Hemsworth look and body? You all are hypocrites. Calling a healthy fit man mid and not suitable for unhealthy fat woman.
@@junnaredd9912 your comment is part of the problem. GFY.
This is why CBT didn't help me with social anxiety as much as people told me it would. I can tell my brain that people don't look at me and don't care and aren't paying attention. But all the times people have gone out of their way to let me know how horrible it is that I'm fat just won't let my brain believe that. And every time I see someone talking shit about fat people like this just reminds me how much people go out of their way to think about fat people. Like the sort of people that take pictures of fat women in gym changing rooms and then post it on the internet. Actual thing that actual people (several) have done.
Let’s shame the reporter out of her career!! Shame on that awful awful reporter!😡😡Nicola is GORGEOUS and I love that she is strong and confident and beautiful! Much love to this beautiful woman! Thank you for this report Happy Pancake❤❤
It's so sad to me that not only do we have to get hatred from men about our (women) bodies.. but also women do it to other women as well ughhh I hate it here
I loved the Penelope character in books, and I love Nicola's portrayal of her. I never for one second thought that she wasn't Penelope. If anything, I was disappointed by Colin's casting.
This is the second video I watched where someone discussed the horrible things this lady weote about Nicola. Thank you for your commentary. I hope people donate
There is something so bizarre about when people can’t accept that people are attracted not only by someone’s soul, but they are attracted to what they are attracted to. And as long as both are of legal age and there isn’t a power dynamic where one partner is dominating the other, let people love who they love.
Everyone who has at least half of a brain knows beauty is subjective - we see beauty by our own preferences, by what we find attractive. I talked with three of my friends (two guys and one girl) about this season - buddy Oliver sees Penelope as basic looking with nice hairstyles, Charlie said she’s extremly attractive but red lipstick is just not for her, for me she became quite beautiful and looks great in green and blue but our girl Ruth on the other side finds her ugly (even if she loves her recent fashion taste) - and that’s fine, we all have our preferences. Considering this, I’ll NEVER understand why anyone feels the need to write that kind of article. The way she talks about Penelope, like there’s NO WAY anyone could ever find her attractive, is just disgusting. And the part where she writes about how it’s unbelievable and even impossible for Colin to fall in love in her. I don’t know, maybe he simply finds her attractive? Maybe her „atributes” fits his damn PREFERENCES? How insecure you have to be about yourself to write that kind of article. It also gives a lot of personal vibes 😂
Thank you for such constructive & thoughtful commentary on that revolting article! 👏👏👏
The average size in America is a 14, last I checked. Lots of us are loved passionately and getting proposed to. Having babies with us. Spending their lives with us. We are the romantic leads of our own lives. Why not in Bridgerton?
“She’s a Zionist”
Of fucking course, I FELT she was when I first heard about the article thanks for confirming it
Nicola is absolutely _gorgeous!!!_ And sexy as hell 😍 She is an incredible actress, as are the other cast actors, and I'm happy to admit I'm obsessed with Bridgerton!