Very nice indeed. I rode the Puffing Billy Railway near Melbourne, Australia last year and this is in similar hilly formerly timber-getting country. One operational Climax , a small Garratt, other tank engines and a non-operational Shay. 2' 6" gauge.
Well my special needs son says that during the 1990 Railfan weekend Shays 2, 3, & 4 pulled their train all the way up to Bald Knob and Hiesler 6 followed close behind pulling a log crane, flatcar, and caboose and nothing went wrong.
The smokestack is wider at the top to catch cinders and prevent wild fires. The mesh covering at the top of the smokestack also aids in this prevention.
Sorry for a 3 year late reply lol, but shay 3 is said to not get repairs, ever, "she's not needed" is what I've heard from a good friend of mine who is very close to staff at Cass Scenic Railroad. Although shay 7 is in the "list to be repaired", expect her to run in the next 10-20 years.(Sounds like a long time I know but it'll be worth it)
My special needs son really likes the Hiesler #6 in fact he likes all the geared ⚙ steam engines 🚂 at Cass! I personally like the Shays with their 3 pistons on the right side that move up and down instead of side to side, I think it is a very interesting mechanical system.
Do y'all have the Climax operational yet? Hey, I have to ask, why are you running them facing backwards? I'm approximately 220 miles away in northern VA. I'd love to take a road trip and go for a ride.
Cass operates on extremely steep grades, many times the gradient of a normal rail line. This means greater strain is placed on the couplers if they are pulling the weight of the cars behind them, and therefore an increased chance of a knuckle breaking, and if one did, the car could roll downgrade uncontrollably. (The manner in which air brakes work should prevent that, but it's possible the system could fail to function as expected) So to reduce the risk greatly, Cass pushes the train up the mountain, rather than pulling them. Also it keeps the smoke and cinders out of the rider's faces and most importantly eyes. Not to mention it's prototypical at Cass, since the days of logging trains on their route trains have been pushed up the mountain.
Yes, they can pull the trains instead of pushing, it's simply common practice at Cass to push them, just for added safety. During photo specials however the engine almost always pulls the train, as photographers usually prefer to have the engine leading.
The fact that they are shays has nothing to do with how loud their whistles are, many other engines wear identical or nearly identical whistles to the ones heard here.
The Shay No. 3 presently at Cass (The one in this video) is not the Shay No. 3 that ran at Cass in decades prior, that Shay 3 is presently operation to the best of my knowledge out West, in its original cab number of 1.
Someone want to tell their crews that they don't have to be such an ENORMOUS pollution-source, over-stoking so much with bituminous coal? That huge smoke-plume is unburnt fuel. Secondary air over the fire could help a LOT. Might be photogenic, but IS filthy.
There are a lot more factors to the color and amount of smoke than just how much coal is being fed to the firebox. How recently it was fired, the quality/grade of the coal, and a number of other factors. And no where in this video do you see an engine emitting a lot of smoke when it wasn't about to need a great deal of steam to tackle a grade or heavy load. Immediately after being stoked, even only a little, there is often a great deal more black or brown smoke, it generally clears up to normal levels shortly after.
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Spectacular, I see why this' so popular.
Cass is easily a top spot for steam and scenery
Very nice indeed.
I rode the Puffing Billy Railway near Melbourne, Australia last year and this is in similar hilly formerly timber-getting country. One operational Climax , a small Garratt, other tank engines and a non-operational Shay. 2' 6" gauge.
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Shay 11 is my personal favorite too.
Good choice
Thank you.
Thank you!
One day I will cross the ocean and I'll go to Cass. I love Shay locomotives but I have never seen a real one.
Cass is one of the best to see steam in action
Wow, I was actually on that exact train with the Heisler to Spruce! I was in the pine car.
Did you see yourself?
And yet I still have to see a Heisler in operation. I went to see the Heisler go to Spruce, but Shay 4 pulled the train instead.
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I like pushing the cars so you don't have to end up choking on smoke or get covered with soot.
It's also for safety, it doesn't strain the couplers
Well my special needs son says that during the 1990 Railfan weekend Shays 2, 3, & 4 pulled their train all the way up to Bald Knob and Hiesler 6 followed close behind pulling a log crane, flatcar, and caboose and nothing went wrong.
Okay I need a train expert here to explain to me why the chimney becomes wider cause it sure isn't contributing to aerodynamics
The smokestack is wider at the top to catch cinders and prevent wild fires. The mesh covering at the top of the smokestack also aids in this prevention.
So that's its purpose
Penny (heisler 6's) crew.
Gary Cassel. Ginette Schaffer and Chris Lambert
at 6:30 is that a hancock shortbell 3 chime on the heisler
is that a Hancock Shortbell 3 chime on the Heisler
hope that shays 3 and 7 will go into rebuild soon
Sorry for a 3 year late reply lol, but shay 3 is said to not get repairs, ever, "she's not needed" is what I've heard from a good friend of mine who is very close to staff at Cass Scenic Railroad. Although shay 7 is in the "list to be repaired", expect her to run in the next 10-20 years.(Sounds like a long time I know but it'll be worth it)
Great video!!
Glad you enjoyed
Awe e video Everett!
Is the Heisler everyone's least favorite?
And which engine would be the crew favorite?
My special needs son really likes the Hiesler #6 in fact he likes all the geared ⚙ steam engines 🚂 at Cass! I personally like the Shays with their 3 pistons on the right side that move up and down instead of side to side, I think it is a very interesting mechanical system.
Do y'all have the Climax operational yet? Hey, I have to ask, why are you running them facing backwards? I'm approximately 220 miles away in northern VA. I'd love to take a road trip and go for a ride.
Check the comment Walter's Trains made below for the answer to that.
The Climax was restored in 2019
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Why doesn't the locomotive pull the train forward?
Cass operates on extremely steep grades, many times the gradient of a normal rail line. This means greater strain is placed on the couplers if they are pulling the weight of the cars behind them, and therefore an increased chance of a knuckle breaking, and if one did, the car could roll downgrade uncontrollably. (The manner in which air brakes work should prevent that, but it's possible the system could fail to function as expected) So to reduce the risk greatly, Cass pushes the train up the mountain, rather than pulling them. Also it keeps the smoke and cinders out of the rider's faces and most importantly eyes. Not to mention it's prototypical at Cass, since the days of logging trains on their route trains have been pushed up the mountain.
I understand. Cannot put innocent lives in danger! I'm curious, could it at leas pull one passenger car up the steep grades?
Yes, they can pull the trains instead of pushing, it's simply common practice at Cass to push them, just for added safety. During photo specials however the engine almost always pulls the train, as photographers usually prefer to have the engine leading.
I'll tell you, Shays may be very the slowest locomotives, but they're the loudest locomotives. I mean their whistles are STRONG.
The fact that they are shays has nothing to do with how loud their whistles are, many other engines wear identical or nearly identical whistles to the ones heard here.
Gary cassel! I love him
Its me in the Heisler!!!!!!
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shay #3 hasn't ran since like the 1990's or 80s
The Shay No. 3 presently at Cass (The one in this video) is not the Shay No. 3 that ran at Cass in decades prior, that Shay 3 is presently operation to the best of my knowledge out West, in its original cab number of 1.
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Someone want to tell their crews that they don't have to be such an ENORMOUS pollution-source, over-stoking so much with bituminous coal? That huge smoke-plume is unburnt fuel. Secondary air over the fire could help a LOT. Might be photogenic, but IS filthy.
There are a lot more factors to the color and amount of smoke than just how much coal is being fed to the firebox. How recently it was fired, the quality/grade of the coal, and a number of other factors. And no where in this video do you see an engine emitting a lot of smoke when it wasn't about to need a great deal of steam to tackle a grade or heavy load. Immediately after being stoked, even only a little, there is often a great deal more black or brown smoke, it generally clears up to normal levels shortly after.