Marvin Winans & Perfecting Church on the Hook 🪝 for another $21 Million Loan for 20+ Yr Project. 🤦🏽

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  • It has been a long and winding road for Perfecting Church to finish its majestic new edifice on Woodward Ave. and Seven Mile Rd. in Detroit. Starting two decades ago, construction has been met with prolonged periods of “go-and-stop” activities for various reasons. In February 2023, the City of Detroit filed a surprising lawsuit against Perfecting, alleging the construction of the new cathedral had stalled, was out of compliance with the City, and the 16-acre site was blighted, an eyesore, and should be declared a nuisance. Perfecting filed a countersuit.
    Total costs would rise to $56 million once the project is entirely done!
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  • @charlesflager1970
    @charlesflager1970 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    That ain’t nothing but a $56 million dollar ego!!

  • @dwisdomNYC
    @dwisdomNYC 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The city made an offer that they will take the bldg and give back the 💵the church spent. Bishop refused that offer. To me that was God’s way of providing an escape and making the saints whole.

  • @soundjudgement3586
    @soundjudgement3586 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Some may recall, years ago building new church edifice's was a pastor's "legacy". It all came on the financial burden of hard working people and retiree's savings.

  • @universallove878
    @universallove878 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    And He expects the people to pay for that? Lawd tear it down. Nothing but greed.

  • @BenjiIrby
    @BenjiIrby 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    We love the on the ground reporting Saint James!

  • @P_Blake
    @P_Blake 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    “I’m at his house” 💀💀💀

  • @kishagreen4578
    @kishagreen4578 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What is Marvin trying to accomplish. If membership is fading, what's the point of having a church that big. Bishop blake built West A here in L.A. in less than 6 years. It doesn't take 10-20 years.

  • @thekaerichtexas
    @thekaerichtexas 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    That land would earn more money and have more of a benefit to the community if they had horses, cows, or chickens on it, hell even tomatoes, corn, hay, etc Definitely a waste

  • @KevinMoore225
    @KevinMoore225 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I hope that Bishop Elect Winans & congregation can accept your message in the spirit which it was given.🙏🏽

    • @bernardhenderson1146
      @bernardhenderson1146 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Aren't they part of COGIC?

    • @PastorStephenMcNeilLinen
      @PastorStephenMcNeilLinen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bernardhenderson1146 no they are not a part of COGIC.

    • @eldermagoliamoore7219
      @eldermagoliamoore7219 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@bernardhenderson1146No, they are no longer part of COGIC. They've been out of COGIC for years. If PC was, his MEGA Church would have been completed. COGIC is very Organized in their Business Affairs.

  • @thekaerichtexas
    @thekaerichtexas 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    They could at least keep the grounds up, during renovation. They need to replace that lot and trim the hedges and grass. It look like it should be condemned

  • @dr.passaj.wilson1476
    @dr.passaj.wilson1476 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Vicky dodged a bullet. God works in mysterious ways.

    • @TheSaintJamesShow
      @TheSaintJamesShow  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My my my… she could’ve been spending some of those millions tho…

  • @tmn8547
    @tmn8547 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    They could’ve used it for low income housing and helping people pay their bills.

    • @margaretjackson498
      @margaretjackson498 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No developer would ever put low income housing at this location.

  • @priscillastepney2147
    @priscillastepney2147 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This only shows that this building would have been too much to maintain. God expects better from leadership when handling the people money

  • @bernardhenderson1146
    @bernardhenderson1146 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The lesson is ... Solomon built a Temple and God had it torn down....... He is more interested in People than Buildings... He wants your HEART not your MONEY... Rend your Heart...

  • @jamesnorris9637
    @jamesnorris9637 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where is the parking lot? Wow, well we all saw what happened to Pastor Greenleaf!

  • @idawimberly6137
    @idawimberly6137 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ego that's what it is

  • @Bobbie-user-xf4qu4en1d
    @Bobbie-user-xf4qu4en1d 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How are they going to do this..codes change every year..the design is old..seriously 20 years my God.. it took my former church 12 years to build.. gave everything I could. Now they have a big mortgage..empty church and renting it out to other congregations to pay the mortgage.. the seniors in the church have gone on especially my parents.. and yet this church still stands with a big mortgage.. come on bishop give up the ego.. it’s a different time now..where are your members who’s gonna help you pay for this building?

  • @indianapolislibramom8383
    @indianapolislibramom8383 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I WANT TO SEE THE INSIDE!!!

    • @eldermagoliamoore7219
      @eldermagoliamoore7219 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's nothing inside there but dirt floors, beams and no real walls. I gave a lot of money for this Project for years. And, I'm not even a member. I'm not understanding this.

    • @indianapolislibramom8383
      @indianapolislibramom8383 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@eldermagoliamoore7219 WOW, SO SAD!

    • @TheSaintJamesShow
      @TheSaintJamesShow  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That part! There’s nothing to see…

  • @molit9315
    @molit9315 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So what is the congregation & officers going to do? Continue to follow this man or get new leadership to see this church flourish. Who does the church belong to? Him or the people?

  • @amarettocherry80
    @amarettocherry80 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I hate to say this but, growing up in the Pentecostal denomination, they do not have the mental capacity for business organization, which I believe is part of the reason why they are not progressive. The church I grew up in run individuals out of the church that attempted to assist them in taking the church to another level. They were and still are resistant to change.

  • @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081
    @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Marvin said God told him to build it😂 if God told him to buil it the church would have been completed a long time ago.

  • @Back2basics88
    @Back2basics88 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The winans might flag you for this one, cause its the truth. I thought all of detroit looked like that. That doesn't seem like a necessary investment.

  • @SheniceSays214
    @SheniceSays214 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder what the building that they currently use looks like

  • @ConnectMobileVideos
    @ConnectMobileVideos 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wow how sad. I don't see it being completed. My concern is His new Wife and marriage. Not a Divorce but happiness b.c He has to be stressed. So not fair to the 1st Lady.

  • @TerrellDugue
    @TerrellDugue 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Reminds me of Chateau by Sheriee 😂

    • @justin7sanchez
      @justin7sanchez 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      you beat me to it! 😆

  • @molit9315
    @molit9315 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When are they going to build it and what happens to the money 💰. Particular tithes and offerings?

  • @kathleenhurd205
    @kathleenhurd205 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Welcome to our world!!! Sorry for your disappointment with the concert, but now you see for yourself what those of us who see it each time we pass by it see. Acres of land just neglected.

  • @SheniceSays214
    @SheniceSays214 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So what was the point of all this if they already had a building was in good shape

  • @suric4828
    @suric4828 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is a sad situation.

  • @indianapolislibramom8383
    @indianapolislibramom8383 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I WANT TO SEE HOW BAD THE INSIDE OF THE CHURCH IS!!!

    • @carolynwhite9975
      @carolynwhite9975 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's nothing on the inside but beams, rafters, the frame; the floor is just dirt. It's just a shell of a place

  • @jaymesaskew3657
    @jaymesaskew3657 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for your hard work, St. James. The church is unnecessary

  • @LilJessye94
    @LilJessye94 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chateau Perfecting Praise

  • @maigirllez1753
    @maigirllez1753 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    When is he gonna get officially elected ??? It's been a long time coming, and Marvin ain't no spring chicken !

  • @jazzyj3618
    @jazzyj3618 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Beautiful Sketch 🤷

  • @ingridfields6712
    @ingridfields6712 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thats a shame. I think he could do so much. Even taking on investors. Thats enough acreage to build a small community.

  • @user-vl8fw4sv2g
    @user-vl8fw4sv2g 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bishop should be ashamed GOD had nothing to do with that

  • @margaretjackson498
    @margaretjackson498 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Saint James you can build senior homes and other projects at any vacant and available lot in the city of Detroit. Plenty are available. This one is taken.

  • @in-spir4197
    @in-spir4197 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ... on location 🧐😇💜

  • @peachesm5865
    @peachesm5865 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Okay 😅Funky Dineva😂

  • @MaStan60
    @MaStan60 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    St. James you will be in the church DANCING. 🕺

    • @TheSaintJamesShow
      @TheSaintJamesShow  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Well, I tell you this… if it finally gets completed, I will make sure to go and dance. 🕺

    • @MaStan60
      @MaStan60 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheSaintJamesShow I will fly from Georgia and meet you 👑enjoy some of my song with my son TH-cam Roderick Stanley and the Holy Spirit Believers. 👑

  • @dbgoldbach9947
    @dbgoldbach9947 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always side eye megachurches and those in them.

  • @BJ-lh6my
    @BJ-lh6my 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I heard the Peace church is closed down?

  • @BJ-lh6my
    @BJ-lh6my 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Does Tammy and Monique have the same mother?

  • @JustBeingSoMe
    @JustBeingSoMe 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think at this point 20+ years later that it is a disgrace to the testament of God and more an example of human error when you are operating in ego. They should sell it to the city, recoup as much of their money as they can and carry on at their current location. It has to be a consistent reminder of a failed attempt at growing their congregation to meet the demands of an edifice of this magnitude. 😢

    • @TheSaintJamesShow
      @TheSaintJamesShow  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The city offered to pay them the money they had put into it. That was turned down, and now a new loan, the parishioners will be on the hook for is on the horizon.

  • @shardyshard22
    @shardyshard22 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don’t believe it’s a waste of money,I believe they will get that new facility completed since all they have to do is to build out the inside of the building. ,the hard work is already done,I’m assuming they want to wait until all of the exact funds are raised to continue the interior construction of the building.

    • @imanibjs.5775
      @imanibjs.5775 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      After twenty years! That's what you believe? Bless your lheart.

    • @charlenetutt9413
      @charlenetutt9413 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They need 20 million to complete this project. That could take another 20 years. The problem is what my mother used to say: Your eyes are bigger than your stomach. They phrase most of the time was in relation to food, but it applies to this situation. I mean why do you need a wedding chapel, when you have a sanctuary? if you look from 7 mile, there is a vacant building sitting there which if not removed, would make that corner look unattractive. I actually rode pass a few days ago and it really is an eyesore. I have a feeling Duggan will find a way to sell that property to one of his buddies. Personally, I wouldn't want to be on Woodward and 7 mile when the sun goes down. All these Bishops want a megachurch.

    • @TheSaintJamesShow
      @TheSaintJamesShow  6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯

  • @candaceboyd
    @candaceboyd 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Replay

  • @paulkirkseysr9022
    @paulkirkseysr9022 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The project is not completed it will be have you ever built a church its costly and takes time you need to go back to oakland and tend to your business

    • @TheSaintJamesShow
      @TheSaintJamesShow  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Naw… I’ll stay around awhile.. thanks for the hospitality tho

    • @dbgoldbach9947
      @dbgoldbach9947 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheSaintJamesShow😂😂

  • @dontaydavis8361
    @dontaydavis8361 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The church will be completed next year..stop causing division with your gossip

    • @TheSaintJamesShow
      @TheSaintJamesShow  6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Let me screenshot this and swing back around to you next year 🙄