Special shout-out to Surfing Pikachu V(Max). Similar to Flying Pikachu VMax the Surfing variant was nostalgia bait that started being played when Palkia VStar dominated. Specifically Surfing Pikachu is a Lightning type Pokemon that uses Water energy, making it a perfect tech in Palkia VStar decks for the mirror match.
@@glazermon Yes, but the deck still runs plenty of Water energy and Melony is similar to Welder but for Water energy. I mostly saw Surfing Pikachu as a 1 or 1-1 tech, but it was nice to see some collectors cards actually see play.
Surfing pika vmax could also have been played with Arceus vstar to one shot palkia/flying pika while still allowing you to play melony to attack with arceus vstar turn two if you miss attachment turn one
0:18 - Mewtwo V-Union is unique in that those 16 placeable damage counters can be placed on a Pokemon immune to damage from Pokemon Vs, very useful. Or just use a Pokemon that has a move like Shred that damages and ignores effects on your Opponents Pokemon, or at least most effects.
I've never played the game but that sounds like a cool concept. I was thinking if they revisit the concept maybe have different options for each piece so you can assemble different combinations of attacks and ability.
Honourable mention: Lickitung from Jungle, a Basic Colourless Pokémon with 90 HP and a retreat cost of 3 colourless. It has two attacks: Tongue Wrap costs one colourless energy, does 10 damage and paralyses the opponent’s Pokémon upon a successful coin toss, while Supersonic costs two colourless energy and does no damage, but confuses the opponent’s Pokémon upon a successful coin toss. Now, I know what you’re thinking: “That sounds like a poor-man’s Chansey.“ And you would be forgiven for it, cuz that was exactly how people saw Lickitung on release. And it took until 2014 for someone to notice Lickitung’s strengths. When three-time World Champion Jason “Ness” Klaczynski and three-time U.S. National Champion Kyle “Pooka” Sucevich revisited the Base-Fossil format, the latter cobbled together a stall deck with what little of Base-Fossil he still had on hand: A one-of of Chansey, three Mr. Mime, one Moltres, three Magmar and three Lickitung, along with a slew of Trainers for disruption and consistency. Jason went into this match a “little” more prepared, with a fully optimised Haymaker, for the longest time considered the best deck in the Base-Fossil format. Pooka’s „crappy“ stall deck ended up winning it all. “It’s broken, ask Jason! Hitmonchan? Lol Moltres! Mewtwo? Lickitung! Wigglytuff? Removal! Anything else? Mr. Mime stalls. No-one should ever take six prizes in a game with Energy Removal, Super Energy Removal and Item Finder”, Pooka later recalled. So yeah, for being a poor-man’s Chansey, being able to paralyse the opponent without relying on Double Colourless is a solid point in Lickitung’s favour, despite the coin toss.
I don't know it's fit but might be good idea for another videos. Mega Audino EX. Some madman from Japan bring his Mega Audino EX deck to world and beat everyone. People used to think the card and the set is hot garbage until the guy won the tourney. The reason why he won is because turn out the deck work amazing against popular meta deck at the time.
I would love a series ranking the Top 10 Regionals/Internets/Japan Series/Worlds Finals Matches. Each video tackles a different Competitive Year Cycle? Perhaps a video on Dex Logs’ favorite formats too? Of course both of those ideas are subjective but would be pretty unique videos imo!
I've only seen your yugioh videos and this was just in my recommended and I didn't read that it was a different channel so I got half jumpscared by this video being about pokemon lmao
Some of them were released as Promo cards. However most of them did not see a physical release, simply due to them having effects that are hard to replicate on the tabletop.
@@samarius_art_and_games Dark Venusaur saw a limited release in Japan only and Meowth saw release in both the US and Japan as promos. Meowth had its attack reworked so you could pick the target for its move instead of it being random. All the cards were physically prototyped before putting into the game and a Japanese strategy guide had scans of them, which can mostly be seen on the cards’ Bulbapedia pages.
Top 10 Pokemon that have seen successful play over their different card printings over the years? Like for example, over the years have multiple Blastoise cards seen play? Any card that was only successful in one printing wouldn't be included
So....I have two questions. 1. Where the fuck is Mega Audino EX? 2. Why do you have a different editor for this video than TheDuelLogs? Like...I can tell they're different people, because while I love the editing on that channel, this video's editing was atrocious. The arrows, the exclamatory tone for the captions that contrasted with your own tone? That's no bueno... Seriously dude...I love your Yugioh content, but your Pokemon stuff needs to be researched and edited WAY better in the future. :/
Any player that even thinks of making a deck that stalls until your opponent concedes needs to be permanently ejected from every single TCG and CCG fanbase. Preferences are irrelevant there. That is an invalid way to play any game, not just a card game, and there needs to be a general zero tolerance environment for that kind of strategy. Dragging the game out until they actually lose by misplay due to deteriorating concentration is borderline alright but "If you don't concede we'll probably still be at this by next Monday and I'm willing to sit here until then" needs to be rejected. As vehemently as possible.
To be fair, I think the win condition is actually "Lose by deck out" not "Lose by quitting", but I will say that Pokemon is the only game I know of that has had numerous valid deck out decks that have few or no ways to actually force your opponent to mill or draw cards. While there used to be some cards to force your opponent to draw extras back in the day, I'm pretty sure there have also been periods where the strategy is basically "My opponent will use some amount of draw/search cards, so so long as I use less than them they'll deck out before I do" which does, in fact, sound extremely boring.
Special shout-out to Surfing Pikachu V(Max). Similar to Flying Pikachu VMax the Surfing variant was nostalgia bait that started being played when Palkia VStar dominated. Specifically Surfing Pikachu is a Lightning type Pokemon that uses Water energy, making it a perfect tech in Palkia VStar decks for the mirror match.
Palkia can only accelerate to water types
@@glazermon Yes, but the deck still runs plenty of Water energy and Melony is similar to Welder but for Water energy. I mostly saw Surfing Pikachu as a 1 or 1-1 tech, but it was nice to see some collectors cards actually see play.
Surfing pika vmax could also have been played with Arceus vstar to one shot palkia/flying pika while still allowing you to play melony to attack with arceus vstar turn two if you miss attachment turn one
No mention of Mega Audino EX as the perfect meta call as an honorable mention feels criminal but entirely justifiable at the same time
nobody knew about that card than it won the 2016 championship out of nowhere
Hey, this is the whole reason I came to these comments! This list blows, man...
That is one of the few cards I looked at the day it was spoiled and called being good - purely because of the meta
0:18 - Mewtwo V-Union is unique in that those 16 placeable damage counters can be placed on a Pokemon immune to damage from Pokemon Vs, very useful. Or just use a Pokemon that has a move like Shred that damages and ignores effects on your Opponents Pokemon, or at least most effects.
Also with Lugia archeops , ive used a mewtwo v union lugia deck that charges aurora and horror energy on mewtwo and just shreds
Honestly the cards with artwork spread over multiple cards to make a full picture are super neat.
I've never played the game but that sounds like a cool concept. I was thinking if they revisit the concept maybe have different options for each piece so you can assemble different combinations of attacks and ability.
Honourable mention:
Lickitung from Jungle, a Basic Colourless Pokémon with 90 HP and a retreat cost of 3 colourless. It has two attacks: Tongue Wrap costs one colourless energy, does 10 damage and paralyses the opponent’s Pokémon upon a successful coin toss, while Supersonic costs two colourless energy and does no damage, but confuses the opponent’s Pokémon upon a successful coin toss.
Now, I know what you’re thinking: “That sounds like a poor-man’s Chansey.“ And you would be forgiven for it, cuz that was exactly how people saw Lickitung on release.
And it took until 2014 for someone to notice Lickitung’s strengths. When three-time World Champion Jason “Ness” Klaczynski and three-time U.S. National Champion Kyle “Pooka” Sucevich revisited the Base-Fossil format, the latter cobbled together a stall deck with what little of Base-Fossil he still had on hand: A one-of of Chansey, three Mr. Mime, one Moltres, three Magmar and three Lickitung, along with a slew of Trainers for disruption and consistency. Jason went into this match a “little” more prepared, with a fully optimised Haymaker, for the longest time considered the best deck in the Base-Fossil format. Pooka’s „crappy“ stall deck ended up winning it all.
“It’s broken, ask Jason! Hitmonchan? Lol Moltres! Mewtwo? Lickitung! Wigglytuff? Removal! Anything else? Mr. Mime stalls. No-one should ever take six prizes in a game with Energy Removal, Super Energy Removal and Item Finder”, Pooka later recalled.
So yeah, for being a poor-man’s Chansey, being able to paralyse the opponent without relying on Double Colourless is a solid point in Lickitung’s favour, despite the coin toss.
JWittz’s video on this is great
His Pokemon videos just sadly aren't nearly as researched as his Yugioh ones are. :/
I don't know it's fit but might be good idea for another videos. Mega Audino EX. Some madman from Japan bring his Mega Audino EX deck to world and beat everyone. People used to think the card and the set is hot garbage until the guy won the tourney. The reason why he won is because turn out the deck work amazing against popular meta deck at the time.
I would love a series ranking the Top 10 Regionals/Internets/Japan Series/Worlds Finals Matches. Each video tackles a different Competitive Year Cycle? Perhaps a video on Dex Logs’ favorite formats too? Of course both of those ideas are subjective but would be pretty unique videos imo!
Mewtwo V-Union basically answered every single meta threat there was. Every time you read the card there was a new effect you had to worry about.
Mega Audino EX will always stand out to me.
Dialga VStar with Metang. Just love the deck. Everyone was playing Palkia VStar but even as it debuted I preferred dialga.
What cards caused the most confusion or which cards caused the most judge calls…idt you’ve done that one yet 🤔
that was such an unexpected way to pronounce "righteous" that I had to check to see if it was spelled differently than normal
such a dope and creative video! loved it!!
I have no interest in playing the TCG. I do, however like to learn about it. You should try and do a Collab with Celios Network
18:06 Snorlax stall…
Why the hell didn't I find this channel. So exciting content
I've only seen your yugioh videos and this was just in my recommended and I didn't read that it was a different channel so I got half jumpscared by this video being about pokemon lmao
Did they ever release the Game Boy only cards?
Nope because they needed rng
Some of them were released as Promo cards. However most of them did not see a physical release, simply due to them having effects that are hard to replicate on the tabletop.
If I recall, only Dragonite.
@@samarius_art_and_games Dark Venusaur saw a limited release in Japan only and Meowth saw release in both the US and Japan as promos. Meowth had its attack reworked so you could pick the target for its move instead of it being random.
All the cards were physically prototyped before putting into the game and a Japanese strategy guide had scans of them, which can mostly be seen on the cards’ Bulbapedia pages.
The Legend mechanic walked so V-Union could run
Technically EXP share debuted in neo destiny 🤓 2001
Thank you mr. Dex logs
Unfortunately for pokemon, Champion's Festival is a great stadium in the new gardevoir ex deck
So hah
I would think an extra emergency jelly or picnic basket would be better for garde decks
Rainbow Sky field was so great I used max elixir too
When Exodia comes to Pokemon
Dude Pokémon did what yugioh tried in rush duels but in the main game
They made a card made of cards
Flying pika got the bighest glow up of any card game
Erika’s Jigglypuff deserves a mention.
Top 10 Pokemon that have seen successful play over their different card printings over the years? Like for example, over the years have multiple Blastoise cards seen play? Any card that was only successful in one printing wouldn't be included
Why did you include Wailord EX and not mention Mega Audino EX?
Huh, i wonder why Battle Compressor wasn't mentioned for V-Union synergy...
cause its not legal in standard
@@minokalu1682 Ah i see. Well i did play Expanded for most of the time so... Yeah. Expect that
How about the most impactful Energy cards
I would have thought Gyarados SF would be the most obvious pick.
Your channels deserve way more subscribers... I'm sorry that they seem to be in a "TH-cam rutt"
Pokemon that get worse when you evolve them! (Obvious entry is the current Comfey in Lost Zone engine)
Comfey does not have an evolution…
"Mediocre rise" lol
victini= hisuian bascelegion
That first Mewtwo one sounds like a pretty boring strategy and not fun to play or fight against
So....I have two questions.
1. Where the fuck is Mega Audino EX?
2. Why do you have a different editor for this video than TheDuelLogs? Like...I can tell they're different people, because while I love the editing on that channel, this video's editing was atrocious. The arrows, the exclamatory tone for the captions that contrasted with your own tone? That's no bueno...
Seriously dude...I love your Yugioh content, but your Pokemon stuff needs to be researched and edited WAY better in the future. :/
Yeah I got suggested this video and as a long time ptcg player I'm pretty disappointed. These videos really aren't very well researched
Any player that even thinks of making a deck that stalls until your opponent concedes needs to be permanently ejected from every single TCG and CCG fanbase. Preferences are irrelevant there. That is an invalid way to play any game, not just a card game, and there needs to be a general zero tolerance environment for that kind of strategy.
Dragging the game out until they actually lose by misplay due to deteriorating concentration is borderline alright but "If you don't concede we'll probably still be at this by next Monday and I'm willing to sit here until then" needs to be rejected. As vehemently as possible.
To be fair, I think the win condition is actually "Lose by deck out" not "Lose by quitting", but I will say that Pokemon is the only game I know of that has had numerous valid deck out decks that have few or no ways to actually force your opponent to mill or draw cards. While there used to be some cards to force your opponent to draw extras back in the day, I'm pretty sure there have also been periods where the strategy is basically "My opponent will use some amount of draw/search cards, so so long as I use less than them they'll deck out before I do" which does, in fact, sound extremely boring.
skill issue