Audiophile CD Players: Can you hear the difference? Meridian 506

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  • @markoneswift9765
    @markoneswift9765 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That was my Meridian 506, which I acquired from a guy who pulled it out of e-waste! just goes to show, with a little effort, a lot of these things can be brought back to life. Very nice work Andrew, great to hear it singing again :-)

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers mate. Glad it could be fixed so easily.

    • @danlivni2097
      @danlivni2097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@AndrewPeterson599 I have the Meridian 566.20 Dac with a Meridian 500 transport from 1996. It sounds very analog

    • @techrider2088
      @techrider2088 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I owned the 506 16 bit for 15 years bought in 1995. It was the most analog sounding CD players I’ve owned. The 508 20 bit, however was much clearer and dynamic.

    • @ianwilliams5915
      @ianwilliams5915 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here. 506 for years then 508 then digital out to the 568. - each a step up

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว

      @@techrider2088 the CEC i own ,the critics wrotte , "the most analog cd player in the world" i thought that was related with the fact that is belt driven

  • @Mark198d
    @Mark198d ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is a timely video. I just purchased a Meridian G07 Cd player on the second hand market earlier this week. I had always wanted a Meridian cd player since I heard the 508.24 in the early 2000s, which I remember sounding amazing. The 508.24 still holds its value so well so I could not afford one, but found a well cared for G07 in my budget. It sounds really nice. I also have a Denafrips Ares II DAC for streaming, which I love, but there is something about a well designed CD player and listening to physical media which I will always have a soft spot for.

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats awesome to hear Trent . I felt the same way when I got this one. Dad has Meridian stuff so it was always a goal. :)

    • @rangerscoach
      @rangerscoach 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey do you use the dac on the cd player or the denafrips!! Was just wondering if the internal dac in the meridian stacks up with the more modern even if the design is super retro Aries 2

    • @Mark198d
      @Mark198d 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rangerscoach I use the internal DAC on the G07, which I believe is a multi-bit Analog Devices DAC, when I'm listening to CD's, but I prefer the sound of my streamer paired with the Ares. I think the Meridian 508.24 could compete with the Denafrips, but the G07 cannot.

  • @keithkoledo1166
    @keithkoledo1166 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the 508.24. Same skipping problem. I have dropped it by a repair shop. This video is a fantastic guide. I really appreciate all the care you put into this video, I learned alot. Thanks.

  • @toucan221
    @toucan221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this little film, I have seen lots written about Meridian, but never seen anyone review them on youtube, so its good to see one in action.

  • @rallychamp2003
    @rallychamp2003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am still using my Merdian 208 CD player I bought new in 1990 along with a pair of Meridian M20 active speakers. A couple of years ago, I added a KEF 400Q active subwoofer to fill out the low bass (KEF made the drive units for the M20's).
    It is still a delight to listen to. A rich, warm, detailed, smooth sound.

    • @PerfDayToday
      @PerfDayToday 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still have my M20’s although my 207-14 is currently not working-thinking about getting it repaired. I also have 201, 204, a pair of 205’s, 209. Cheers. Nice video, thxs

  • @ShaneFreeman-lj3my
    @ShaneFreeman-lj3my ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had this player back in 97 and loved the sound. First time a cd player really impressed me. Sound was engaging with a richness and a sense of musicality that i didnt think was possible from digital at that time. I often think back to when i owned this player and wish i still had it in my system. Cheers for sharing this video

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว

      97 there were already cd players that are still very good today, the problem is the format because other digital sources in the 80´s sounded several times better than the cd, don´t know if it´s related with the change of material to make them afordable to everyone, but the first cds i bought were much better than what is sold today ,they can be washed with a cloth under running water ,after all these years they lost the brightness, but they don´t skip a single second the same i can not say of others bought after 2000, and not related with the time of the cd. I bought in the 80´s a Pioneer PD-7300 and it still read all cds ,only was cleaned and tuned, some say it´s still a good cd player

  • @BobTrainor
    @BobTrainor ปีที่แล้ว +13

    CD transport vs DAC. It would be interesting to hook those Transports up to the same DAC and see if there is a difference. We know DACs can make a big difference. Another thing about cheap vs Expensive CD players is longevity, in my experience. Typically your cheaper players don’t last as long and are not worth fixing, as it is cheaper to buy a new one. Thanks for the video. It was fun to watch.

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ill try that. Cheers

    • @paulb.3227
      @paulb.3227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, there are quality differences between transport as well. I owned an Denafrips Avatar transport; really very good, but when I compared it with a Jay's Audio CDT3 MK3, the latter was clearly the better! Same quality DAC ofcourse ( Meitner MA1 MK2).

    • @BobTrainor
      @BobTrainor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulb.3227 Thanks for replying Paul. I’m going to check if any of my cheap DVD\CD players have an optical out and if they do I’ll compare one them to my Cambridge Audio CD transport. (Not that it’s all that Hi End but it did cost more than $30. Lol) I was kind of thinking if it played it played and it was really all about the DAC.

    • @paulb.3227
      @paulb.3227 ปีที่แล้ว

      OK. Good luck!

    • @MichelLinschoten
      @MichelLinschoten ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BobTrainor it is all about the dac the notion that transports sound different is silly ASF really. They all do the same thing they read a CD format that's it.
      It's like claiming that cheaper hard drive sounds different than a expensive one...they don't.

  • @miketodd6477
    @miketodd6477 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lovely solid machine. I used to have a 206, along with a 201 preamp and 205 mono amps. Never had trouble with skipping but the displays were a bit dodgy!

  • @bdhaliwal24
    @bdhaliwal24 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You’re mainly hearing the differences between the DAC in each player, as others have commented. I have a Rotel from the 90s and playing DSOM simultaneously on that and streaming from Spotify through my Modi 3, I can’t really tell the difference which tells me that units from the 90s which at the time cost a lot more than they do now really spent a lot more on their DAC chips than units that you can buy now.

  • @johnlockwood367
    @johnlockwood367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought a Meridian 508.20 back in 1996 or 1997, and subsequently had it updated to the 24-bit DAC. I finally sold it in 2022, after 25 years of faithful service. Wonderful unit. I don't spin many CDs these days, so I replaced it with a much cheaper Musical Fidelity CD player that I run through a Denifrips Ares II DAC. It is amazing how well the old Meridian CD players/DACs still compete with modern gear.

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It really is, and i just brought a meridian Hifi tonight circa 2000-2005. So that will be featured in an upcoming video. My partner actually said why would an old CD player be any good, I said well it was the heyday, thats when folks listened to cds.

  • @1957CRAZYDJ
    @1957CRAZYDJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My previous cd was a TEAC then changed to Micromega CD30. OMG, what a difference, more depth, more details, so much better. Extra money makes a big difference.

  • @jamiehoward5216
    @jamiehoward5216 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've stopped with cd totally...I've just been tempted to start using cd again!!

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seems like the difference would be in the quality of the DAC's involved more than anything else.

  • @nyquist5190
    @nyquist5190 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am not saying that no one can ever hear any kind of difference between any two cd players. However, you are practically guaranteed to hear a "difference" in a non-level-matched sighted test.

  • @Ricky-cl5bu
    @Ricky-cl5bu ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It’s mostly about the dac inside it the cd mechanism are mostlyfrom philips and Sony who started it all ok

    • @kevindemelo4878
      @kevindemelo4878 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Power supply and output stage too

    • @barrymiller3385
      @barrymiller3385 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I replaced a fairly basic (but still audiophile) cd player with an Audiolab cd transport. I spent some time comparing the digital output of the Marantz with the Audiolab. I have a couple of dacs and, obviously, tried both into both. The Audiolab is significantly better across the board. I also tried the comparison with a number of friends - both audiophile and otherwise - with the same result. I will leave it to others to explain why this might be - but the result was conclusive.

    • @GeirRssaak
      @GeirRssaak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The old masters Philips, Sony and teac-tascam were outstanding! Most transports and DACs are just overprized products, copies of the old masters !

  • @Stelios.Posantzis
    @Stelios.Posantzis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am very happy to see the innards of the Meridian 506. It proves to be very impressively built. There countless examples with similar price tags but nothing inside to equal such construction. However, I would not recommend attempting to fix a cd player to anyone who is not qualified (i.e. trained) to fix such devices. Chances are that by attempting to clean parts such as e.g., the lens, one can inadvertently damage permanently the lens coating or even the lens suspension. Besides, even if no damage to the lens ensues, the cause of the cd player problem might be electronic fault or overall parts degradation, e.g. the laser diode maybe past its best and the same can be the case for other parts inside. Gradually parts falling out of spec over time, abuse or excessive use or prolongued disuse could take their toll on the device and lead to faults. A qualified technician is best equipped to diagnose the problems in a cd player and the procedure is not to be trifled with.

    • @GeirRssaak
      @GeirRssaak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Incredible that people buy these overprized products! They are just inferior to the old masters!

  • @stephencallil6512
    @stephencallil6512 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got a MERIDIAN g.06 and it sound brilliant

  • @NathanOakley1980
    @NathanOakley1980 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve had a 506, 508 and 500. They all have these issues. And always will, the issues you show will eventually return.
    I gave up on Meridian CD players. I still have a 568.2, it’s working flawlessly and has done since 1999. As some of your other comments mentioned, it’s the DAC’s that make it sound good. The 568 gave me that detailed sound with almost any CD transport. Now I use the PC, sounds great into the Meridian DAC’s.

  • @Bruno05
    @Bruno05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks to your video I repaired a Meridian 506 that had the same problem. Thank you

  • @patb5266
    @patb5266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, I remember when the D600's came out. Great stuff Meridian!

  • @alanrogs3990
    @alanrogs3990 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got a used Linn Karik and it is a very good player. I dare say it sounds better than all of my other CD players.

  • @Book-Mark
    @Book-Mark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job! I have the 605 mono's and they are fab.

  • @GreenEyedRecords
    @GreenEyedRecords 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Used Meridian players for years and especially the 500 series, all super stable and great sound quality

  • @engelschmidl2907
    @engelschmidl2907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Clear, concise and personable. I'm actually looking at a Meridian 506 on our local market site so this was very useful. I'm only worried these players are getting a little old. Still, seems a very nice sounding player.

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate, appreciate it. Old yes, but serviceable. You can buy the complete CD mech of ali express if needed. :)

    • @engelschmidl2907
      @engelschmidl2907 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndrewPeterson599 Good to know. The one I'm looking at is a nice country drive away so we'll see what happens. Cheers

  • @audiblereality
    @audiblereality 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like Meridian equipment; I'm still listening to a Meridian 500 with a 263 Delta Sigma DAC. Bought those late 90's...

  • @Inverted8
    @Inverted8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the original Meridian 207 CD player and then 208. I still have the 208 with the matching M30 mk2 active speakers, but I mainly use the speakers with a Bluesound Node 2i for streaming. This is a very streamlined minimalistic setup and these M30s still 'blows away' many modern speakers. They are pure analogue class A amplification - NO DSP. Modern active HiFi speakers are all digital with DSP.

    • @PerfDayToday
      @PerfDayToday 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still have my M20’s

  • @damirhlobik6488
    @damirhlobik6488 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a G06 cd player, one cd was skipping while I was sleeping, when I woke up the player was completely blocked, I had to unplug the power cable to get it working again. Never again Meridian

  • @junacebedo888
    @junacebedo888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I travel a lot during the 90s. I own many portable cd. It was Panasonic's 1-bit MASH that sounded very good on headphones

    • @sabs1970
      @sabs1970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most old CD players that run'use the Philips made cdm4/19 laser mechanism will still play & sound great in 2024 keep away from sony laser mechs as most will have failed u now lol Not the best

  • @thermionicdude2044
    @thermionicdude2044 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saw this on TM and was tempted to bid 👍 glad you got it working in the end. Great classic

  • @poonlionglai4699
    @poonlionglai4699 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apart from the CD pickup the meridian may have a better dac built in. Is that the case?

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you use digital out they are all almost the exact same. Otherwise it is dac and output stage you hear as small differences.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not quite....it depends whether the CD player buffers the output from the disc, re-reads the sectors and the error correction level subsequently required. This is where quality players like the Meridian show their quality!

    • @supercompooper
      @supercompooper ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@steven2809 the encoding on a player requires always requires buffering. You can't not buffer as the audio is interleaved across several frames. That plus 8 to 14 demodulation, timecode synchronization etc... The player actually reads the same frames multiple times because it has to also ensure the output buffer doesn't get empty. Also it reads many frames to do error recovery for errors it can recover for and decide the subdata. All this is buffering! A cheap CD ROM will read the exact bits from an audio CD. Exact. Bits are bits. They get put in a buffer and then all that matters are: upsampling by cpu (if any, causing intermodulation distortion), the clock and various PLL's (adds various types of jitter), the DAC/filter (adds noise, non linearity, Harmonic distortion, phase issues, chaotic attractor noise in delta sigma, r2r or NOS Nyquist-Shannon reconstruction reflections), memory access delays (add jitter -- most players don't use dual ported ram to both read and write simultaneously), ground plane and EMF pollution in the circuit, circuit power supply stability and finally the output stage (all the usual analog distortions). But the sonic signature is source independent. It doesn't matter if the 1's and 0's come from originally (cd ROM, usb stick). Once in the buffer the bits are all created equal. It's the treacherous path from the buffer to your ears that matters much more 🧐🤪

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@supercompooper Well you probably think you are very clever...all those fancy phrases...but you are still wrong.

    • @supercompooper
      @supercompooper ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@steven2809 how so? Show me a single cd player that can play without any buffering and I'll donate 1000 to the charity of your choice.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@supercompooper I didn't say buffering was not required...but not all 'buffers' are equal. My Meridian player I had many years ago used a DVD rom for fast multiple re-reading and held a 2 second buffer before passing to the DAC stage. One reason the sound quality was so highly regarded. Also when the Reed Solomon code fails it uses interpolation....so bits are not always the right bits!

  • @jamesellis3583
    @jamesellis3583 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have the CD200 transport it weighs a ton! The very early ones have a brushless motor which are the ones to get.

  • @c0ckyclown
    @c0ckyclown ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I owned the 508.24 -it was magnificent.

  • @joshuamartindale868
    @joshuamartindale868 ปีที่แล้ว

    I replaced a 1987 Bang & Olufsen Beogram CD3300 CD player for a brand new Denon DCD 800NE CD player and the sound difference is like night and day. 16 bit DAC vs 32 bit DAC in the Denon. I use it with my 1985 made B&O Beomaster 5000 with B&O Beovox S45-2 speakers. Its a sinple but elegant setup and a great listening experience for my huge CD collection

  • @skyoreece9805
    @skyoreece9805 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most phillips have capacitor issues 33uf on the laser driver board that fail, I would check them on that side board

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Sky. I will do that Cheers

    • @skyoreece9805
      @skyoreece9805 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AndrewPeterson599 they may be different values but it was a very common issue, plus your lucky to have all the led segments working in the display.

  • @keithwiebe1787
    @keithwiebe1787 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just retrieved my 30 year old Luxman cd player out of the basement when my Panasonic blu ray bit the dust. Sounds fine. I don't plan on comparing. Playing through a Yamaha Receiver and homemade Khorns with 12 inch sub.

  • @timschloe4910
    @timschloe4910 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a professional Marantz CD player picked up about 20 years ago that records on plain CD-Rs and sounds great.

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a restored 1984 SONY CD-P 502 Es and that is the best sounding most solid machine I have ever owned.

  • @EddyTeetree
    @EddyTeetree ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there. Fun video. Always wanted one of those oh so sexy B&O cd players with the sliding glass doors myself but man are they still expensive and it’s impossible to find out what kinda dac they have. Anyone know?

  • @Si1983h
    @Si1983h 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice player, glad you got it working again. I had the successor here for a while, the 507 and that was a nice player… but I also have a Linn Ikemi, Naim CD5x and a Denon DVD A1-xv, all fantastic but different… the Linn and Naim machines are in all Linn and all Naim systems so they’re keepers… The Denon was ultimately better than the Meridian (don’t be fooled by the DVD bit, it’s a proper high end battleship player)… I’d have kept the Meridian too but it wasn’t getting used much and someone wanted it.

  • @hulksmash6476
    @hulksmash6476 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's dac? No? It's how good the output stage is? 🤔

  • @johngreenwell5646
    @johngreenwell5646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Sony cdp-xa-7es, wonderful Cd player.

  • @robertgough5804
    @robertgough5804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great transport. But dacs have improved since 80’s

  • @cymaz100
    @cymaz100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love my 506❤

  • @dtracy03ss
    @dtracy03ss ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe the Pioneer CD Player at 1000 Dollars , I believe it was the PDL 1000 and it had Skipping issues and Laser problems also minimal if any oversampling

  • @lyndapeterson9948
    @lyndapeterson9948 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done 👍

  • @fredericktennant9151
    @fredericktennant9151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You bet it would make a difference good HiFi companies who take the time to research and build a product will walk all over a badge device. While the laser tech is standard the rest is not it will be tuned to their high standard some other companies will just take the insides of a cd player and put it into their case and call it a day Meridian is not one of them companies. Great video

  • @sesioramadhan5137
    @sesioramadhan5137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the meridian 506 have slightly better low-bass response and much natural treble sound imo, and also i believe you will not get any fatigue feel even after hearing it for hours

  • @MichelLinschoten
    @MichelLinschoten ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a 60lbs weighing sony scd777 I still use. Fantastic transport , definitely outdated DAC wise

  • @GIBKEL
    @GIBKEL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Multiple Sclerosis has damaged the nerves/lesions on my brain that processes audio from my ears. Although I was only diagnosed at 51, I have been sick with it since my 20’s when I just had to stop listening to cd’s the way I enjoyed lps. Digital hits my ears like a beam, without the wave of sound that vinyl produces. I just recently got my records out and I have once again been able to enjoy music at levels that I used to. I’m looking for help in being able to listen to the cds’s I purchased so long ago. Thank god most of my music is on vinyl. If anyone has heard a cd/digital with the fidelity of lps, please reach out. It may be worth buying one of these older units. Cheers for making this video🥂!

    • @peterlarkin762
      @peterlarkin762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Denafrips Ares 2 or 12th anniversary edition.

    • @GIBKEL
      @GIBKEL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterlarkin762 cheers-I’ve asked so many times on different videos and this is the first response I’ve received. I will check this out. Have you used one? Anything to report? Can it take a signal from my iMac desktop? I’ll check out the specs…..probably won’t understand half of it but appreciate a place to start. Cheers’

    • @gumbygreeneye3655
      @gumbygreeneye3655 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely a second for Denafrips. I have the Pontus II 12th anniversary and it makes everything sound like it’s got that vinyl sheen but has a greater dynamic range.
      I have mine running off a Mac Mini using Apple Music. As it is two channel audio, I use the Apple TV for music with Spatial Audio through the AV reveiver into a 5.1.4 system with a separate power amp for the front speakers.
      A simple USB connects the Mac and the Pontus (I’m not a believer in cable-magic) and I run HDMI to my receiver for video playback if I need) albeit in stereo.
      In your case I’d suggest IMac to Denafrips via USB and USB to stereo receiver (or what other pre-amp/receiver etc) you have to speakers.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry but vinyl has way more distortion and noise......😖

    • @GIBKEL
      @GIBKEL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@steven2809 Gotta tell ya….my ears don’t lie and disease lies even less. I missed my music for years and I had a decent Nak Cd player, IMac digital and it killed the ears. Brain lesions don’t lie no matter what you say. No offense….

  • @mediascapes2011
    @mediascapes2011 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little surprised, no mention of changing the laser, it would have been my first call?

  • @joinerjimbob
    @joinerjimbob 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it a speaker review or cd?????

  • @TechStuff365
    @TechStuff365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool love Meridian players and had a few. Worth looking at the lampizator diy site, whilst the dac counts they're all good, the power supply and analogue output have a bigger effect imho. Have a look at snipping the output filter caps, newclassd regulators, changing op amps and psu and coupling capacitors. You can get a phillips cd753 very inexpensively change £50 of bits and have a stunning cdp.

  • @RUfromthe40s
    @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thereá a huge diference in sound in a good cd plçayer and a cheap cd player but many supposed to have good cd players are not that good only expensive , in mid 90´s i spend a lot of money on a CEC cd player belt driven and had bought some years earlier a Pioneer PD-S801 ,it had a huge diference compared to several cd players , but when trying several cd players said to be good almost none of them had better sound than a Pioneer PD-S801(a good separation of tracks in each chanel) , only when CEC released it´s belt driven cd player i notice a improvement in sound quality and the CEC which is a known brand ,really made a good sounding CD player ,those Rega or Meridian or several others were not that good sounding, but one can´t expect to have a cheap amplifier with a cheap pair of speakers (normally not good for the amplifier bought) one wouldn´t notice any diference from a 3.000€ cd player to a 500€ CD player , also when in 93 i started to buy more cds for the fact that in my country all stores closed in the capital city , Lisbon and when opening only cds for sale , but in a weekend a big open air market was selling vinil from all labels , alternative ones included by almost 50 cents ,i had a old mercedes at the time and filled it twice with records ,some that i already had but the covers were getting old ,at the third time i had to bring my friends back home so i only filled the trunk which was huge in this mercedes 280 S from 1969 , after this i started to buy only cds ,but with my new amplifier the cds were the less good sounding ,all other sources were sounding great but the cd was sounding very bad, the reason i bought the CEC ,i was using a power and pre from Sony ES with some Mission Argonaut mkII 200watts at 4 ohms each and now i have a cd player that plays cds perfect if they have a good sound ,normally old LP´s converted to cd mainly the ones that used guitars were sounding horrible, some of this audiophile cd players are good but most of them are not , as all other brands do ,so i also can add that some expensive cd players, today they look really bad while others like pioneer or technics or yamaha or denon still look good not missing bits and not looking like they went to a war, they just play and look perfect. The other day i looked for the CEC site and notice that they still sale my cd player today but i felt like dizzy in the head , the price was 35.000€ ,i didn´t pay not even half

    • @elkeospert9188
      @elkeospert9188 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Belt driven CD players" are a good example where "audiophiles" migrate their experience/knowledge from the "analog world" (here turntables) to the "digital world" even it makes no sense at all....
      For turntables a belt drive may make sense to reduce the impact of motor vibrations to the turntable itself which would impact the pickup and therefore the quality of playback.
      But every CD player has a servo mechanism which keeps the laser pickup on the track so minor vibrations do not impact the data readen.
      CD drives for PCs are reading CDs typically 16 or 32 times faster than an audio CD player and none of them uses a belt drive as it does not make sense.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elkeospert9188 it´s even worse on cd players the short pass of the laser makes the engine work almost on top of the reading system , some literally do ,this belt driven cd player was considered the best in the world from all important hi-fi publications at the time ,it´s still for sale today and it costs 35.000€ .i paid not even half of that ,the brand is well known for it´s turntables made for several brands making them in early 70´s for Pioneer and others which today are still above average in all their specifications ,this compared to a Pro-Ject turntable around 1.000€ that doesn´t comes near it being built in 72 , there are more based on this system like REGA´s ,Pioneer´s compact disc players in the 90´s

  • @markappleby1728
    @markappleby1728 ปีที่แล้ว

    We bought a new merdian cd player and an electrocompaniet in 2006 2007.
    Can not get either repaired😢
    Can not get new lazer for the player,and can not get a new mother board for e.c.
    I would not recomend paying out thousands of
    $ if no spare parts are available.

  • @michaelcruz7704
    @michaelcruz7704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Meeidian seems louder than the rest of your player. And also much clearer.

  • @ptg01
    @ptg01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fortunately, my ears are not as discriminating so I really can't tell the difference between CD players as transports. However, I can tell subtle differences between DACs, huge differences between speakers, as well as enough differences between amps especially between solid state (e.g. Class A/B, Class D) and SET Class A vacuum tubes....And no, I can't tell much difference between power cables, interconnects nor speaker cables to justify the premium.

  • @Zodliness
    @Zodliness ปีที่แล้ว

    @Andrew Peterson - Back in the day, when I was servicing the typical consumer CD players and CD burners on the cheap, besides cleaning the lens with alcohol, a good 'quick fix' for most read errors, (dust and tobacco tar was the usual culprits) but if a clean didn't work, I'd then try adjusting the laser's focus gain, (until it became automated), which usually eliminated read errors entirely. The adjustment a minor 'tweak' accommodated for age related 'droop' in a fatigued lens suspension. Tricks that certainly earned me a coin or two for five minutes of 'hard' graft... Thanks for sharing. 👍

    • @clausolsen856
      @clausolsen856 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah...and that little "trick" burned a lot of lasers....increasing the gain is NOT the way to do it...but hey if you can't buy a new laser, prolonging the lifespan of the player with as little as down to a couple of weeks before burnout is off course an alternativ😎

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Age related 'droop' is a common problem.....🙄

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers mate

    • @Zodliness
      @Zodliness ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clausolsen856 Adjusting the focus gain potentiometer did not increase laser output, especially on older cd players that incorporated partial manual focus adjustment, but instead magnetically adjusts the apertures physical height in relation to the disc surface. The technique served me well and never had a single CD or laser disc unit returned in two decades.

  • @jerryrichmond4707
    @jerryrichmond4707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a used Sony SACD 5 disc player 8 years ago on ebay for $63. This is no BS... I listen to CDs for approx. 2 to 3 hours every night! The SACD player still works like a champ. Eventually, this player will die, but I am prepared. I bought another identical model SACD player for $80 as a backup. It's still in storage and ready to go into service when the time comes. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I can't see spending one thousand dollars, or more, for a high-end CD player.

  • @sansenri3
    @sansenri3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm skeptical... what I mainly heard was that the volume of the Meridian was much louder than the other two... (I also frankly doubt that true sound differences if there are, can be heard in a video...). But assuming there are (I'm not so categorical) please re-do your test by exactly aligning your output volumes first.
    What I do like about the Meridian is the robust construction, and very likely, given its age, the reliabilty (although you did have to tinker with it quite a bit to get it going again).

  • @jamesdwright
    @jamesdwright ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 506 that i acquired from my father in law but unfortunately it doesn't read discs anymore. Any idea what could be done to bring it back to life?

  • @saudade369
    @saudade369 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve heard so many speak of the high quality of uK hi while in the next sentence say how unreliable it is . A perfect example .if I pay a high amount for something I expect the faults to have been worked out before it’s sold to me , not for me to be the one to provide the research of how it should be made . I steered clear of most UK “ high end “ companies because of this always happened , whether it’s turntables , amps or CDs their reliability is atrocious and more like something I would expect from a Chinese company !

  • @robertruff8736
    @robertruff8736 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Enjoyed the Video thanks. Still have my 506 somewhere in the loft. I thought it was a really good player on its day not quite as revealing as the 508 though. It would seem that modern dacs are better sounding in detail but still the player offers a good transport if the mecanism if functional and the laser isn't playing up. I will stick with with my MF Nuvista cd at the moment!

  • @t0nito
    @t0nito ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Audiophile stuff is just a gimmick to make rich fools spend their money.

  • @alf3k1
    @alf3k1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You won't pass a ABX test between these players. Just completely subjective nonsense Placebo.

  • @18000rpm
    @18000rpm ปีที่แล้ว

    You are using the internal DACs of these 3 very different CD players, of course there are big differences.

  • @nicoras8803
    @nicoras8803 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What did you expect from the different CD players, another band playing? The data on the CDs are the same, a DAC is a DAC the difference, if there is any, is the op amps or discrete components used.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh dear......😖

  • @neverknowit11
    @neverknowit11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a bit louder.

  • @raycochrane3971
    @raycochrane3971 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 1st thought was to wonder if you'd cleaned the disc. You were unable to define what step made things work better and you didn't do a final check with the Van Morrison problem song. No science, just a hodge podge with your impressions.

  • @madcrabber1113
    @madcrabber1113 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you learn to repair cd players etc?

  • @rangerscoach
    @rangerscoach 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I gotta be real audiophile cd players to me smoke vinyl I’ve got a bryston bcd1 plugged into w denafrips Pontus 2 I’m happy with that to take on any turntable

  • @arnoldtolker3505
    @arnoldtolker3505 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ich habe einen Luxman DZ-03 Tube-CD-Player an Tube-Receiver Magnat MR 780. Den Meridian 506, bzw. die Marke Meridian kenne/kannte ich gar nicht! Wird wohl in Germany nicht vertrieben?! Der CD-Player gefällt mir, vor allem optisch, sehr gut! Danke für's Zeigen!

  • @ufopulse
    @ufopulse ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm your 1000th sub lol :D

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate. I'll mention you in the 1000 subscribers special. :)

  • @hendrikvanheeswijck2804
    @hendrikvanheeswijck2804 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would use a Sony Blu-ray 4k player. only 300Euro

  • @mrsinghsstereos6662
    @mrsinghsstereos6662 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video . Obviously if you have better downstream components ( amp / speakers ), differences in CD player performance are easier to highlight .
    I’ve owned various meridian cd players , streamers , Amps and DACs and DSP speakers over the years - G95, 808v6, 7200SE loudspeakers to name a few and the company had always been innovative. Sadly following the untimely passing away of Allen Boothroyd and Bob Stuart leaving the helm to focus on MQA , the company hasn’t been the same . The loyal customer base is being eroded away and now their focus is solely very expensive speakers and custom installations. I have sold all my meridian gear and have only retained the f80 all in one . If you liked the sound of the 506 try and get hold of the 508.24 which was significantly better

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers mate. Yes I will keep an eye out. There will be another Meridian video coming out soon as I have purchased some DSP 5000 speakers

    • @mrsinghsstereos6662
      @mrsinghsstereos6662 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndrewPeterson599 great look
      Forward to the review !

  • @hartsickdisciple
    @hartsickdisciple หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only reason why a CD player would sound different is the DAC inside it. If you're using digital output to an external DAC there shouldn't be a difference. Everything else is just 1s and 0s.

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, the cd laser isn't a huge factor in determining quality. Your right its digital processing.

  • @michaelb9664
    @michaelb9664 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were these all played through the same amplifier and speakers?

  • @1Hiprascal
    @1Hiprascal ปีที่แล้ว

    Please lose the noise, video is unwatchable without hovering the mute

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I remember when Meridian was the shiz nit. I could only read about them

  • @ArnoldvanWijk
    @ArnoldvanWijk ปีที่แล้ว

    It's obvious you here a diference, you are testing the different dac's, hook them all to the same high quality dac and then test if there' still any difference in sound.

  • @r423sdex
    @r423sdex ปีที่แล้ว

    Best in market, based on !

  • @thomasward00
    @thomasward00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use. $34 dollar Sony DVD player, just use the dig coax out to my external DAC... sounds great

  • @watdanuqta-mf5ms
    @watdanuqta-mf5ms ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes. I can tell the difference.

  • @MGoudsmits
    @MGoudsmits ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess you connected via RCA?

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, only input BnO takes. Slightly annoying it cant accept digital in :)

    • @MGoudsmits
      @MGoudsmits ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndrewPeterson599 well Okay then some difference in sound is indeed possible

  • @JohnLee-db9zt
    @JohnLee-db9zt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re late to the game. This has been debated by audiophiles since the introduction of CD players 40 years ago.

  • @joelcarson4602
    @joelcarson4602 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bits are bits. If tge bits coming out are the same ones on the disc, everything is great. This generally happens in a $35 DVD burner found in most older PCs when using Exact Audio Copy to rip to your hard disk. At least according to the online database of disc checksums complied by EAC users, where lots of folks using a variety of home computers with a number of different brands and models of DVD burners are getting the very same checksums from ripping particular CDs with their equipment.😂

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Go away and learn a bit more...ripping a CD is NOT the same as real time playback on a CD player (with real time error correction!)

    • @380stroker
      @380stroker ปีที่แล้ว

      EAC sucks. I did tests and several burns. Nothing beats the real-time (1x) read of the original cd.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@380stroker Oh dear....😖

  • @howardskeivys4184
    @howardskeivys4184 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m not sure what qualities or virtues validate a component as ‘high end’. Maybe it’s a marketing ploy, an excuse to artificially inflate the price or whatever. I im no expert, but I wouldn’t class any of the CD players in that comparison as anywhere close to high end. I purchased my 1st CD player in 1985. It cost me £2200. It weighs 12.5kg. It looks and more importantly, sounds, today as good as it ever did. It’s never required any maintenance. I have upgraded to a CD transport and separate DAC which together cost around the same as that original CD player but, DAC design and technology has come a long way in the last 38 years. Even so, that old unit can still hold it’s own, which is why it’s still in my rack.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you..🤪

  • @nicoras8803
    @nicoras8803 ปีที่แล้ว

    They severely screwed up with MQA!

  • @gumbygreeneye3655
    @gumbygreeneye3655 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this a Kiwi audio channel?!

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yis....🤣

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure, well im kiwi, but there may not be sheep or hobbits appearing. Not yet. :)

    • @gumbygreeneye3655
      @gumbygreeneye3655 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndrewPeterson599 We have enough in the Bay already. Bloody Hobbits.

  • @TheBudgie29
    @TheBudgie29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red Book Compressed Brick walled CD's they'll be no difference.

    • @380stroker
      @380stroker ปีที่แล้ว

      Cd's are not brickwalled if they were made before 1995. In 1995 the hard limiter was introduced. I have many cd's that are prior to 1995 and have all the peaks and valleys.

  • @ford1546
    @ford1546 ปีที่แล้ว

    This cd player uses a good philips mechanism, laser.
    But uses an incredibly cheap motor for the CD disc!

  • @luca12957
    @luca12957 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why there are people still buying vintage elettronics? Would you buy a 20 years old smartphone? or even a 20 years old pc?
    ofcourse not, yet you buy a cd reader + dac from 1994. Technology moves on, they are objectively bad and costs many times the prize of state of the art dacs.

  • @JohnSmith-zl8rz
    @JohnSmith-zl8rz ปีที่แล้ว

    I found this player for $10 bucks.

  • @ProfessorJohnSmith
    @ProfessorJohnSmith ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes all cd players are the same. They have to be as its all digital information. Reading a cd is a very simple thing even a $5 plastic cd drive can do it. And nobody uses cd players anymore anyway so who cares. Just stream your music and throw your cd players away

    • @elkeospert9188
      @elkeospert9188 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Reading a cd is a very simple thing even a $5 plastic cd drive can do it."
      It would not say that reading the data from a CD is a very simple thing as there is a lot of HighTec involved (Laser, high accurate tracking, complex error detection and correction algorithms) but yes - it is now very cheap to produce such a thing. Even 15 years ago you could buy CD-ROMs drives for PC for about 25 USD (which could read CDs 16 x faster than Audio CD players)
      The only thing that could make a difference would be the DAC - but since 1-bit-oversampling DACs were invented it is not problem to build very high precision 16 bit DACs for less than 5 USD also
      "And nobody uses cd players anymore anyway so who cares. Just stream your music and throw your cd players away"
      Or rip you existing audio CDs (using a software which adds meta data like album name, song names etc) and store your music on a USB stick or an hard disk.

  • @jotcarey
    @jotcarey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Searched for "cd players double-blind comparison"---nothing. If you want your viewership numbers to skyrocket, do a carefully designed, genuine double-blind comparison of the same cd players (being careful to, e.g., match levels precisely beforehand) and present a video with the genuine results, whether or not they match your expectations.

    • @AndrewPeterson599
      @AndrewPeterson599  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair enough. I'm not really sure what you mean. It's not meant to be scientific. It's what you could achieve in your own home. As for bias. I don't want a $156 cd player to out perform a $4500 one. But if it does then it does. But thx for the advice. Cheers

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go back to ASR.....😖

    • @1Hiprascal
      @1Hiprascal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndrewPeterson599 Forget genuine double- blind comparison, you need to increase viewership with more trolls. Wanna have some fun? Lets compare digital coax cables!!! Triple-deaf, genuine, tests.

    • @patbarr1351
      @patbarr1351 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally, I would rather hear the experiences of music fans using a product in a familiar environment over a period of hours or days than a rapid-switch test that only lasts a few minutes.

  • @supercompooper
    @supercompooper ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MQA seems to be snake 🐍 oil 🛢️ squared.

    • @380stroker
      @380stroker ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. MQA is a huge freakin scam.

  • @ScottGrammer
    @ScottGrammer ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course you can hear the difference when you buy a golden-ear CD player. Your wallet is way thinner, which makes you late paying your electric bill, which leads to the electricity being shut off, and that changes the sound rather dramatically.

  • @saudade369
    @saudade369 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “ well made and expensive” it just doesn’t work .incredible .

  • @lwh7301
    @lwh7301 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy American. British gear are way over priced.

  • @1697djh
    @1697djh ปีที่แล้ว

    MQA called in the receivers, in other words, they went bankrupt before you made this video. I'd suggest ripping CD's using dBpoweramp, and playing them back on a dedicated streamer. CD's sadly have died a death, go into your local HMV, you will find it full of records...!! Streaming services like Qobuz and Tidal leave CD's in the dark ages. Naim and Linn CD players sounded wonderful, but Linn and Naim have ditched all top end CD players.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว

      MQA is not Meridian....different company.

    • @1697djh
      @1697djh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steven2809 MQA was a spin off from Meridian, it was spun off in 2014, read wiki en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Quality_Authenticated

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1697djh Yes I am aware of that. I don't need to consult Wikipedia (!) I remember it's inception on the Sooloos system! My point was MQA Ltd is a separate company... (now in administration...) 🙄

    • @380stroker
      @380stroker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL. Tests have been done by many people. The Uncompressed sound of a cd always destroys the shitty streaming services even if they claim to stream 24 bit. "Claim". When you stream, tons of jitter is introduced from the server down the fiber optic cables though your home wifi and out your dac. Look up the tests, they're everywhere. Cd is still king in sound quality. LOL.

    • @steven2809
      @steven2809 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@380stroker Oh dear...your lack of understanding has just made you look pretty silly.......