I have 4 battle combos from 6.5ft to 9ft fished them all over the gulf coast and east coast. I have never lost a fish due to the reel or rod. Ever. Redfish, black drum, specs, snook, grouper, sail cats, hard heads, black tips, bonnet heads, sheeps, 6 diff snapper species, jack crevalle……….never had an issue. Great reliable affordable gear.
I've been looking to upgrade my gear for bigger fish and was definitely looking at the fierce based on what WILDLIFE has said. He also said some time ago the live liner fierce version doesn't last as long as the non live liner version. Was wondering if you had any results of that being true yourself.
I’ve been using the Fierce 3 live liner for years in 3k, 4K and 8k models. I beat the crap out of them and don’t take care of them and they keep on going. I would recommend them. Any reel with a 2nd drag system, regardless of brand, will have more parts and by default more chances to fail. So it’s amazing that with the abuse I put them through they haven’t.
@@BitesandStrikesFishing That's great to hear and in which scenarios do you use the live liner? Carp fishing, catfishing, alligator gar? I always just leave the spool closed and feel for bites for catfish and see the line going tight or loose for carp. I guess there's a better way to do that including leaving the spool open possibly. I guess my question is in which types of fishing do you use the live liner, or leave the spool open or closed?
@@Flahmas i use the live liner for all those species. Set your main drag, turn on the live liner, and just reel down when you see cats or carp taking off. For gar you have to set the hook pretty hard
I have a spinfisher and when respooling this reel i notices the spool was not moving up and down very much as I was respooling the reel. It did not lay evely and i cannot use the real.l Its pretty much new and now sure what happened. Any ideas
I was able to get about 2 hours before thunder started aame thing happened again 4 bites and it just shut off. Anyway very nice reels and hope you had a great weekend
I know it’s a bit more $ but I highly recommend trying out the Penn slammers. They are bullet proof. Also the spinfisher is a good in between as far as the Penn line goes.
Hi! Can you disassemble your fierce 4.? Coz I opened mine and it has 1 sealed ball bearing and 3 shielded ball bearing. I'm confused coz it says 4 sealed ball bearings.
Idk about the sealed bearings. But my fierce only has ONE sealed bearing and thats up at the pinion gear. As for the my battle, its sealed bearings all around from the side plates to the pinion bearing.
@@BitesandStrikesFishing on top of that, the fierce would always get stiff after or during use. I don't know why, I've always rinse my reels everything I'm done using them. But just does. I sold it and kept the battle, sold the battle and bought another battle 6000 for my medium heavy
@Many100videos interesting, I have about 4 Fierce and I never wash them at all. They get very beat up and I never have any issues. But I also don’t have issues with my Battle.
Personally I have not, but I did a review comparing the 3 vs 4 PENN Fierce 4 review, compared against the Fierce 3 spinning reel th-cam.com/video/3-O7y-PL5w8/w-d-xo.html
I have purchased and used both of these reels. Only for saltwater applications commercial fishing use. The battle 3DX 6000 The DX has upgraded main pinion. My battle 3DX has fished 3 commercial seasons an stood up pretty well, reliable reel for the money. The fierce is an okay reel. But for anybody that is looking at these reels to purchase my opinion would be spend a little more money and get a Slammer if you want to stay with penn. The Daiwa BG is a much better made and durable. if you're looking for a live liner feature save your money and buy a Shimano d baitrunner drag is much much smoother oscillation is much better and the drag also. all in all I would much rather spend a little more money and get more longevity dependability & performance. But like he said in the video personal preference fishing Styles and locations freshwater saltwater both are affordable options is my take on those two
Very well said. I haven’t tried the BG yet but the one down side of the Shimano is the reel has less line capacity than the Penns. The Fierce is the budget option for sure.
I think the main point of the video was to have the two options around 100$. The slammers get over 200 bc they are completely sealed. Ipx6 i believe. I have owned slammers spinfishers and 2 diawa bgs. The bgs never held up as well in salt water for me. They take more maintenance to keep running smooth over my penns. If I was getting a battle I'd def go for the dx models as well they are smoother for just a small price upgrade. I own 2 and u can reqlly tell the difference. Atleast i can. Really u cant go wrong with penns gear. They are workhorses
Depends what you are targeting, but generally for shore fishing you’ll want something about 10’+ in length. Stick to a brand you know. I love Ugly Stiks
I haven’t personally used the pursuit but I have friends with it. 1 big differences between the pursuit and the Fierce is the Fierce has a metal frame and the pursuit is graphite. There are a few other features the Fierce comes with internally that the pursuit doesn’t. But at half the cost the pursuit is a solid reel.
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I have 4 battle combos from 6.5ft to 9ft fished them all over the gulf coast and east coast. I have never lost a fish due to the reel or rod. Ever. Redfish, black drum, specs, snook, grouper, sail cats, hard heads, black tips, bonnet heads, sheeps, 6 diff snapper species, jack crevalle……….never had an issue. Great reliable affordable gear.
Battle has cnc cut brass gears, fierce has cast zink gears. Big difference
I think I’m going to get the Fierce 4 8000 for a heavy duty surf fishing setup.
That reel should work pretty well
I just bought a Battle 3 10000 2 weeks ago going to test it's sea legs next week at Fort Fisher, NC
Good luck! Let me know how it works for you. Send me some pictures of your catches. Bites.strikes.photos@gmail.com
I've been looking to upgrade my gear for bigger fish and was definitely looking at the fierce based on what WILDLIFE has said. He also said some time ago the live liner fierce version doesn't last as long as the non live liner version. Was wondering if you had any results of that being true yourself.
I’ve been using the Fierce 3 live liner for years in 3k, 4K and 8k models. I beat the crap out of them and don’t take care of them and they keep on going. I would recommend them.
Any reel with a 2nd drag system, regardless of brand, will have more parts and by default more chances to fail. So it’s amazing that with the abuse I put them through they haven’t.
@@BitesandStrikesFishing That's great to hear and in which scenarios do you use the live liner? Carp fishing, catfishing, alligator gar? I always just leave the spool closed and feel for bites for catfish and see the line going tight or loose for carp. I guess there's a better way to do that including leaving the spool open possibly. I guess my question is in which types of fishing do you use the live liner, or leave the spool open or closed?
@@Flahmas i use the live liner for all those species. Set your main drag, turn on the live liner, and just reel down when you see cats or carp taking off.
For gar you have to set the hook pretty hard
Nice video! Do a video with fierce 4 vs pursuit 4!!!
I just might. You’re not the first person to ask for that!
I have a spinfisher and when respooling this reel i notices the spool was not moving up and down very much as I was respooling the reel. It did not lay evely and i cannot use the real.l Its pretty much new and now sure what happened. Any ideas
Not sure if it’s the CNC gearing or not but the Battle III has better line lay compared to Battle 2 as well
I’ve never used the Battle II but maybe they upgrade the spool to help with that issue 🤷♂️
I pulled a tank outta the grass with the 6000 no problem! Just went today and bought the medium light version for my flukes and wacky!
6000 Fierce or Battle?
Great to the point video that helped me make up my mind. Battle 3 it is!
Glad I could help!
I try to make the videos that I’d want to watch to help me
Get the DX model
Are you sure the fierce dont have CNC Gears?
I was able to get about 2 hours before thunder started aame thing happened again 4 bites and it just shut off. Anyway very nice reels and hope you had a great weekend
Thanks, had a good weekend for sure
The penn fierce 3 is on sale on Amazon right now. I just got the 8000 size for $84.00. I couldn’t say no.
I know it’s a bit more $ but I highly recommend trying out the Penn slammers. They are bullet proof. Also the spinfisher is a good in between as far as the Penn line goes.
I’ve heard good things about the Slammer. As far as I know the slammer doesn’t have a live liner model does it?
Hi! Can you disassemble your fierce 4.? Coz I opened mine and it has 1 sealed ball bearing and 3 shielded ball bearing. I'm confused coz it says 4 sealed ball bearings.
If you do the math 1+3=4
Idk about the sealed bearings. But my fierce only has ONE sealed bearing and thats up at the pinion gear. As for the my battle, its sealed bearings all around from the side plates to the pinion bearing.
That would explain the price difference
@@BitesandStrikesFishing on top of that, the fierce would always get stiff after or during use. I don't know why, I've always rinse my reels everything I'm done using them. But just does. I sold it and kept the battle, sold the battle and bought another battle 6000 for my medium heavy
@Many100videos interesting, I have about 4 Fierce and I never wash them at all. They get very beat up and I never have any issues. But I also don’t have issues with my Battle.
Have you tried the Penn fierce 4 live liner combo 8000?
Personally I have not, but I did a review comparing the 3 vs 4
PENN Fierce 4 review, compared against the Fierce 3 spinning reel
th-cam.com/video/3-O7y-PL5w8/w-d-xo.html
I want a fierce 4 live liner
I have purchased and used both of these reels. Only for saltwater applications commercial fishing use. The battle 3DX 6000 The DX has upgraded main pinion. My battle 3DX has fished 3 commercial seasons an stood up pretty well, reliable reel for the money. The fierce is an okay reel. But for anybody that is looking at these reels to purchase my opinion would be spend a little more money and get a Slammer if you want to stay with penn. The Daiwa BG is a much better made and durable. if you're looking for a live liner feature save your money and buy a Shimano d baitrunner drag is much much smoother oscillation is much better and the drag also. all in all I would much rather spend a little more money and get more longevity dependability & performance. But like he said in the video personal preference fishing Styles and locations freshwater saltwater both are affordable options is my take on those two
Very well said. I haven’t tried the BG yet but the one down side of the Shimano is the reel has less line capacity than the Penns. The Fierce is the budget option for sure.
I think the main point of the video was to have the two options around 100$. The slammers get over 200 bc they are completely sealed. Ipx6 i believe. I have owned slammers spinfishers and 2 diawa bgs. The bgs never held up as well in salt water for me. They take more maintenance to keep running smooth over my penns. If I was getting a battle I'd def go for the dx models as well they are smoother for just a small price upgrade. I own 2 and u can reqlly tell the difference. Atleast i can. Really u cant go wrong with penns gear. They are workhorses
@robdishjr4912 Not completely sealed. Only 3 reels on the market that are completely sealed that is Van Staal, Visser and zeebass
@@Jessica37323 correct. My mistake. They are just more sealed than the battles
what is the maximum power of the drag reel?
Battle 3 and Fierce 4?
Terimakasih
They have 30-40 on the bigger reels
@@BitesandStrikesFishing 30-40 pound to kilogram just 18kg.
not worth the price
@walla5152 unless you are moving into conventional saltwater reels these are some of the highest drag resistance for spinning reels.
I use a 30$ soungayling baitfeeder reel and they are pretty bad but i caught my 60lb gar on it so it works
I’ve also have a kastking Sharky bait feeder that I’ve landed a 70lb gar on… but it felt like it was going to break the whole fight
I like my spinfishers best friend all penn reels are the best 😊
I have a Spinfisher as well. Beast of a reel
What's the ideal pole to match with the Battle 10000 for beach/shore fishing?
Depends what you are targeting, but generally for shore fishing you’ll want something about 10’+ in length. Stick to a brand you know. I love Ugly Stiks
I just snagged a fierce 4 live liner new and catmax bass pro heavy rod at my local swap meet for 60$ i couldn't give the guy my money fast enough😂
1 hell of a deal!
Let me know how you like the new reel
I have the battle 3 and the Pursuit 4
Truthfully not that big of a difference and I hear the fierce is a over priced pursuit
I haven’t personally used the pursuit but I have friends with it. 1 big differences between the pursuit and the Fierce is the Fierce has a metal frame and the pursuit is graphite. There are a few other features the Fierce comes with internally that the pursuit doesn’t. But at half the cost the pursuit is a solid reel.
@@BitesandStrikesFishing Definitely an unbelievable reel for 50$ , the battle is just great, spinfisher coming soon
@@Thegoat-4L I have the spinfisher as well and it’s a beast. One of the best reels I have. Not cheap but worth it in my opinion
Fierce is closer to the Battle than the Pursuit is to the budget clamshell models.
Hello and how are you doing today? My Question is why? is it anybody are giving the right Honest review of this product? is it because you all are getting it for free?? and you must give the right review so you can get another free things from them??
These are my personal reels that I bought with my own money. I’m not sponsored by any company