I lived in Indio back in 1978 and worked at a Restaurant, it was The North shore beach and yaht club. One day I went to work, but couldn't find the Restaurant. We had heavy rains for a few days and all the water runoff from Indio and other cities near by, drained into the Salton Sea and a massive flooding of the sea swallowed the Restaurant and my job.
If you plant mangrove trees in the lake on the edge of the water they will remove a lot of salt if you put a net at the base of each tree to collect the leaves and remove the leaves which are carrying the salt it will help repair the water over time the larger the tree the more salt that is removed through the leaves as they fall you just have to make sure the leaves are removed from the nets every month for 3 to 5 years
@Hay Dyna lowrider, actually, the farms are uphill from our Salton Sea. The runoff water does end here in our parts of the Salton Sea. I love Piggly Wiggly, shopped in Brunswick back in 1986.
This video doesn't mention that in order to get water from the Gulf of California we would need Mexico's permission, good luck in this political climate.
Took a trip through America not long ago went passed so tiny towns and its a shame as poor as they are the bar was the fullest business in the whole 2 mile town
Build an aqueduct from the Pacific to the Salton Sea. Refill it as rapidly as possible. When it reaches the desired level build a second aqueduct to drain saline water from the Salton Sea to the Pacific at the same rate, turn over the water to decrease the salinity closer to ocean water.
Great idea, lets just get out our magical cross continental multibillion dollar canal building wand out and wave it to save a stupid lake in the middle of nowhere that shouldn't exist
@@archieames1968 Yeah! It's a great make work project. Hire people to dig the canal with picks and shovels. Or, give them dental picks and spoons to employ even more. Still would be a better use of public money than California's "bullet train."
Conducting a few calculations based on publicly available data, I've figured out that, as a reasonable estimate, it would take the removal of enough salt to account for as much as 100 Great Pyramids of Giza (600-million tons), to bring the lake of the Salton Sea to normal salinity, Enough salt, at 17,000,000 tons per annum, with which to salt the roads of the US, for the next 35-years.
A little late to the party, but that's a really good question! I'm gonna simplify a lot, but basically, the water precipitates carbonates (which is a mineral originally sourced from atmospheric carbon, again long story) that slowly builds up on the "sea" bed. The lake would've done this every time it's being filled. However, because the sediment is so fine, it blows away really fast (geologically speaking), so by the time we entered Imperial Valley that dust was already gone.
I inherited a city lot in that area. There is nothing on the lot. Yet, I get offers to buy my "worthless" lot every now and then. Maybe once a year. So, my question is this. How do we know all these people asking for a solution to this "disaster" aren't the same people buying up all of these properties? The answer is that we don't know.
I used to go there in 60s with my parents on Vacation because they wanted to see movie stars. We used to fish, swim, stay in hotel. Unbelievable. My Dad wanted to buy a house there my mom threatened to divorce him if he did.
Here is the deal as a resident of the imperial valley. The sea was meant to start cleansing last year on December. Clinton came down during election season and proposed to clean the sea. She realized how bad it was to live next to a polluted body of was water. Many of you dont understand the health issues one has living there. I developed bad lungs thanks to the polluted air. Cancer is a major issue caused by the pollution.
In 2020, water continues to evaporate and the lake continues to shrink. There are residents who are working to clean up the areas around the towns where there is still lots of trash from decades ago. The fish continue to decline. Anecdotal evidence indicates that the human population continues to increase. We will see in a year or two, by means of the census, what actual populations of the towns actually are. There are several current water projects to improve bird habitat related to water quality.
I have a solution for this problem of the Salton Sea and that is to fully drain it out and start digging the land of the Salton Sea by 50 feet down and turn what once was the Salton Sea into a huge massive landfill because landfills in the state of California and the state of New Mexico Arizona Nevada and Oregon are running out and start running Rail lines to the Salton Sea and start dumping garbage and the way my solution will last at least 200 years for a landfill.
6:08 There are over twenty wetland/habitat areas closer to the Pacific Ocean in the flyway path of migratory birds: 1. Malibu Lagoon 2. Sepulveda Basin Wildlife Refuge 3. Ballona Wetlands 4. Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park 5. Prado Wetlands 6. Whittier Narrows Natural Area 7. Los Cerritos Wetlands 8. Seal Beach National Wildlife Refuge 9. Bolsa Chica Ecological Reserve 10. Newland Marsh 11. Magnolia Marsh 12. Brookhurst Marsh 13. Talbert Marsh 14. Upper Newport Bay Nature Preserve 15. San Joaquin Marsh and Wildlife Sanctuary 16. Buena Vista Lagoon 17. Agua Hedionda Lagoon 18. Bariquitos Lagoon 19. San Elijo Lagoon and Ecological Reserve 20. San Dieguito Lagoon and State Marine Conservation Area 21. Los Penasquitos Lagoon 22. Mission Bay 23. San Diego Bay National Wildlife Refuge 24. Tijuana River National Estuarine Research Reserve
Why not feed the Pacific into it from the north since that will make it 25% less salty than it is now? Then, create another route so as to circulate around and back out to the Pacific from the south? The canals can be anywhere between 1/2 mile to hundred feet across while serving the inland Californians that don't want to travel 50 miles to the coast to cool off as well as recreation. If Dubai and China can build islands and Terra-form the way they see fit for real estate development and conquest, why can't this be made to happen for the Salton Sea?
I've always been for letting this die, but after watching this, LET IT DIE, let it run its natural course like it has for millions of years, way before we existed.
I believe back in the 1800 or early 1900 the shipping and delivery of ice was a very good business, not everyone had access to a refrigerator, If brainstorming can be done to bring Antarctica ice Berg's down more than one problem would be solved.
Two options really: 1) The lake was an accident and shouldn't be there. Let it dry up and in the mean-time accept these issues are a consequence of stupidity and try to learn from it. 2) Over millions of years this lake has actually come and gone and at present is an important natural resource so is certainly worth saving. Trying to pump in sea water is just stupid as the resources required aren't sustainable over the long term... ...but, at least this time, the lake reappeared as a result of inflow from the Colorado - re-open the inflow that caused this in the first place and accept the consequences of 'loosing' that water which is currently put to other purposes. The bottom line is California has a larger population than it's natural resources can support and there's no long-term solution that will fix it. Either reduce the population, and for the present individuals need to resource their use, or suffer the increasing consequences of pushing the area beyond it's carrying capacity.
The AM/PM sold out to Chevron, Kentucky Fried chicken, Cinnabon, Taco Bell, some coffee shop, and others have a restaurant inside. They will be mining for lithium and property values are just now going up.
The Salton sea is lower in elevation then sea level, it's already more salty then the ocean and it isn't all that far from the ocean. If you really want to save it just build a pipeline to it, and siphon some sea water into it.
Build a canal connecting the Salton Sea to the Pacific with chain of locks to allow boat traffic each way.Opening and closing the locks will create a water flow to the Salton Sea.
@@donaldboughton8686 As foreign immigration into California continues, and people continue to flee high living costs and taxation in the coastal cities, I think eventually something like what you suggest will get funded. The state will see $ signs.
what about building a canal from the ocean to the lake ... I mean, the water of the slake is even saltier that the ocean, It would solve the problem of drying out ...
I think the solution is rather simple. Ask mexico permission to sip seawater from the gulf of cortez. and lets ask the usa to allow the colorado river reach into mexico like it used to be.... and both countries will benefit from this arrangement . I'm sure mexico will agree instantly.
Why don't you fill it with asphalt as it dries up?.. and have car racist? Also find out what keeps the oceans alive and bring some of those plants over there? One last question can you sell the salt or is it too toxic
i think it was a sea before in ancient pre-human history and was connected to the sea of Cortez before. it is meant to be. only a massive sea can create such a low-lying feature that is the Salton sink.
When you see someone wanting to buy most of the lots around the sea, you can figure some rich turd is going to rejuvenate the salton sea as a development.
There are over twenty other options closer to the Pacific Ocean: 1. Malibu Lagoon 2. Sepulveda Basin Wildlife Refuge 3. Ballona Wetlands 4. Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park 5. Prado Wetlands 6. Los Cerritos Wetlands 7. Seal Beach National Wildlife Refuge 8. Bolsa Chica Ecological Reserve 9. Newland Marsh 10. Magnolia Marsh 11. Brookhurst Marsh 12. Talbert Marsh 13. Upper Newport Bay Nature Preserve 14. San Joaquin Marsh and Wildlife Sanctuary 15. Buena Vista Lagoon 16. Agua Hedionda Lagoon 17. Bariquitos Lagoon 18. San Elijo Lagoon and Ecological Reserve 19. San Dieguito Lagoon and State Marine Conservation Area 20. Los Penasquitos Lagoon 21. Mission Bay 22. San Diego Bay National Wildlife Refuge 23. Tijuana River National Estuarine Research Reserve
Why are people insisting on "saving" a lake that isn't even supposed to be there? Let the damn thing dry up and nature will take over. In a couple hundred years it will be a desert full of yucca plants as it originally was.
There are millions of people living along its shores that you have to do imminent domain to. Also the same reason we don’t have high speed rail here. There is also the problem that there are huge mountains in the way that run all the way to Mexico and farther down the peninsula.
This hopelessly polluted body of water was never meant to be! But it will never dry up entirely for the increasing hyper-salinity and the fact it's below sea level has retarded it evaporation to a near halt. It will just get more polluted with time.
How would bringing in salty water from the ocean 'save' the Salton sea? There is no outlet, so whatever flows into it stays, minus the water that evaporates. What stays behind is any salt, or other chemicals dissolved in the water. Even fresh water will add salt over time to a lake with on outlet. Stabilizing the ocean water will eventually make it as salty as the Dead Sea. No fish could live in it, birds couldn't live there.
As the video says (just a few minutes in if you actually watch it) one reason the sea should be saved from drying up is because it's exposing very fine toxic dust which is hazardous to living creatures, humans included.
Stupidity caused this open cesspool. But letting it dry up would cause more problems. No good solution. Just put up a sign that reads: "Dont drink, swim, or look at the water. Dont breath the air. Stay away from the dead fish and birds." There all solved.
There is an obvious and less costly solution to the problem. Divert water from the Colorado back into the sea to stabilize the water level. Build desalination plants on the coast to make up for the lost water. Use solar power to run them. This is the simplest and most feasible fix and it can be implemented in a few years. Building canals from the ocean would be more costly, less practical and wouldn't help wildlife which need fresh water.
I visited this place with some friends about 6 or 7 years ago, it was pretty cool to see, a different experience than expected. There's plenty of bones and area to go exploring, I'd personally bring a few medical masks and a lot of water, have fun, let me know how the fishing went.
Oddly at the same time these "environmentalists" allow billions of gallons of water flow into Frisco Bay, all the time, to save a few dozen tiny fish. Get your story straight.
You realize that is naturally flowing water that form waterways which includes the shipping of agricultural products from the central valley right? The Sacramento and the Dan Joaquin rivers are extremely important to the state’s development. For the fish, those are endangered and species that get wiped out can hugely influence the environment in countless different ways like increased parasites. The UK destroyed their large hunters like wolves which ended up with deer destroying the forests.
@Danny Building True. But with heavy urban development in California along wetland areas, the Salton sea took up its role that the other areas had use to play. It also has naturally formed before too in the past.
the best thing to do is to not let it die. definitely better to deal with it look at death valley. california and nevada, arizona, new mexico are all drying up, because of drought, and we consume and never put back. that is an issue. want to see thinos change you have to recharge.
it all comes down to priorities. there isnt enough excess colorado river water to send there. Land values? Gimme a break. Its hot as haides there, windy and dusty. Air quality well there are solutions for that.
One thing we need to do is move water from the ocean back inland to places we need it and if we can do that while generating clean energy we have a chance to mitigate climate change and still have a prosperous future. It is really, really hard but it is not impossible. The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution. Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions. A better future is possible,
I've been there. Very interesting place. The history is interesting. Leave it alone. It wasn't there before. And now it's going away. Let it die in peace. The Salton Sink will return to what it was: land useless for anything. Man's further interference will only compound the problems unfortunate that they are.
That's not too far to pump in some sea water. A 12 inch pipeline is all it will take.. Make it happen then build a desalination plant there and send that water to the Colorado River.
Let the thing dry up, dig one big hole or a bunch of smaller holes, scrape the former lake bed into said hole(s), cover up and allow native vegetation to establish. Problem solved.
The whole toxic dust, death and destruction angle sounds a bit contrived. The salton sea was a naturally occurring body of water that came and went at least twice going back tens of thousands of years ago. It dried up naturally, every time and it will dry up again, naturally. The focus should be how to keep water out of that basin, not put more water in it.
Horrible idea. The salton sea is located in death valley and is around 100 meters below sea level...take a moment to think what would happen if you connect the ocean to it. The entire valley would flood.
A FLOOD HAPPENED AND THE WATER FLOWED INTO THE LOWEST PART OF THE DESERT, THE LAKE HAS BEEN FILLED AND DRAINED THROUGHOUT MILLIONS OF YEARS, IF YOU VISIT YOU WILL SEE A LINING OF WHERE THE WATER USED TO BE ALONG THE MOUNTAIN, About 50 ft higher than it is now. How is this our fault.
salton sea had been nice in the 1960's but slowly the fish warnings were to not eat more than a few oz if pregnant or a child, warning of Mercury in the fish, Water nasty, and had to wash off children when they played in the water, now as the fish are dying off, the birds eat the fish, and dying from the mercury and other things in the sea water. there are nice fishing spots nearby that are fresh water for the birds so as fast as the sea dries up the better for the thousands of migrating birds to have a chance to live. dept of Fish and Game have the fresh water lakes.
YOUR ANSWER Is in HOW the Water got there in the first place. But . . If the Water was 'Given', why think something is wrong when it's Not anymore? Poison Minerals and Chemicals ? Wait, Where did they come from? No, not unless someone tapped into buried 'waste'. Wasn't Land was dry before?
You do realize that the San Andreas runs under the lake bed and refilling the lake could trigger an earthquake in LA with the additional load put on the fault, correct?
That would take care of the homeless problem. In the meantime, move the homeless to the banks of the beautiful Salton Sea and give them each a shovel..
By watching videos about the Salton Sea, and conducting a few calculations based on publicly available data, I've figured out that, as a reasonable estimate, it would take the removal of enough salt to account for as much as 100 Great Pyramids of Giza, to bring the lake of the Salton Sea to normal salinity, Enough salt, at 17,000,000 tons per annum, with which to salt the roads of the US, for the next 35-years.
If its possible to pump oil from Alaska why not pump water from the Mississippi river?Not only for the Salton Sea but for the entire state of California.
Matias Dieguez A study by a California University has already been conducted and it has been determined that desalination of ocean water is now on par with transporting water around California.
Humans thinking that they're going too live like before . that's not right he magnetic poles have been moving at an unprecedented speed . they're move already 1878 miles from their original position . in new York the last year was when the less hot days on history and this year we're on July and they're only one day over 90 degrees ice is coming to the world
Isn’t dry the way it was before the river flooded it? Funny all these ‘remove the dam’ efforts there are, but nobody wants to return this area to how it was originally.
So they want to use water as a toxic waste dump.... "improved property values?" Someone wants to live next to a toxic waste dump?? a body of water for recreation.... hmmmm. water covering toxic waste.... Don't think I'd vacation there!
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every time i watch a video of the salton sea. the locals are always like "we used to have 5 bars out here!!" lol :D
Salton Sea stinky as it may, still smells better than Los Angeles. 🤣
I bet it smells better than half the country. Though will say Skid Row is very unpleasant.
I lived in Indio back in 1978 and worked at a Restaurant, it was The North shore beach and yaht club. One day I went to work, but couldn't find the Restaurant. We had heavy rains for a few days and all the water runoff from Indio and other cities near by, drained into the Salton Sea and a massive flooding of the sea swallowed the Restaurant and my job.
Hurrican Camille 1977
But we also had hurricane Kathleen in 1976.
They need to bottle that water for the trendy Coachella Music Festival concertgoers.
tedGEGI and just like that all the white privileged people got mad lol
Lmao someone’s mad
I'd buy some
Just add some tequila & it would taste fine
Ha ha!
i think these guys are all worried about the bodys they threw in back in the 60s are gonna reappear
Haha imagine
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no
Drop our lawmakers into that water.
Wouldn't polute the water even more?
Don't think the Sea need any more dead bodies, dead fish, birds. This lowered water costs a lot of environmental damage
If you plant mangrove trees in the lake on the edge of the water they will remove a lot of salt if you put a net at the base of each tree to collect the leaves and remove the leaves which are carrying the salt it will help repair the water over time the larger the tree the more salt that is removed through the leaves as they fall you just have to make sure the leaves are removed from the nets every month for 3 to 5 years
Farms up stream has poisoned the water..
@@HDDynalowrider Yet we buy those farm foods at our local Piggy Wiggly.
@angela Lazon That plan has come up in the restoration project for Desert Shores.
@Hay Dyna lowrider, actually, the farms are uphill from our Salton Sea. The runoff water does end here in our parts of the Salton Sea. I love Piggly Wiggly, shopped in Brunswick back in 1986.
Ain't gonna happen is too expensive ‼️..... they're too busy , giving money to the foreign countries🤔....... 🤣
Hmm california could stop building their high speed rail and fix this lake.
@MrDodo They have to support everyone on welfare, and pay all the fat peoples medical bills
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Everyone I know from California is a disease ridden drug addict
Stephen Landry where are you from
Stephen Landry Lol ok buddy
This video doesn't mention that in order to get water from the Gulf of California we would need Mexico's permission, good luck in this political climate.
And billions
@@jestes7 . Put some of the bullet train money toward restoring Salton Sea.
@@jestes7 we'll just make Mexico pay for it! X-)
I don't Mexico is gonna be against it.
@John Kyle It took 2 years for someone to post a racist reply to my comment, and it wasn't even witty. I'm disappointed.
Took a trip through America not long ago went passed so tiny towns and its a shame as poor as they are the bar was the fullest business in the whole 2 mile town
Build an aqueduct from the Pacific to the Salton Sea. Refill it as rapidly as possible. When it reaches the desired level build a second aqueduct to drain saline water from the Salton Sea to the Pacific at the same rate, turn over the water to decrease the salinity closer to ocean water.
Great idea, lets just get out our magical cross continental multibillion dollar canal building wand out and wave it to save a stupid lake in the middle of nowhere that shouldn't exist
@@archieames1968 Yeah! It's a great make work project. Hire people to dig the canal with picks and shovels. Or, give them dental picks and spoons to employ even more.
Still would be a better use of public money than California's "bullet train."
@@archieames1968 Yes, you're right it is funny how much angst there is to save a sea that is only there by accident.
@@archieames1968 there used to be a lake there, a loooong time ago ... where do you think that salty bed comes from ?
Unfortunately we are talking about the U.S. Government, with a bunch of wait until is happens republicans..
What was it like before the lake was there? Without a natural outflow, won't it get even more toxic over time?
There was prehistoric lakes there in the region.
Conducting a few calculations based on publicly available data, I've figured out that, as a reasonable estimate, it would take the removal of enough salt to account for as much as 100 Great Pyramids of Giza (600-million tons), to bring the lake of the Salton Sea to normal salinity, Enough salt, at 17,000,000 tons per annum, with which to salt the roads of the US, for the next 35-years.
Salt mines under the sea.
theres no need for it to be less salty, the problem is the fertilizer and pesticides from ag run-off
So what did they do about the "toxic" dust back before the lake was accidentally created 100 years ago?
the dust wouldn’t have been that fine, so it wouldn’t have happened
There weren't farm chemicals leaching into the area back then
there wasn't toxic dust.
A little late to the party, but that's a really good question! I'm gonna simplify a lot, but basically, the water precipitates carbonates (which is a mineral originally sourced from atmospheric carbon, again long story) that slowly builds up on the "sea" bed. The lake would've done this every time it's being filled. However, because the sediment is so fine, it blows away really fast (geologically speaking), so by the time we entered Imperial Valley that dust was already gone.
@@cutthroat399 so it puts the carbon from the atmosphere back into the atmosphere, thus having no net change on the atmosphere.
Got it.
I inherited a city lot in that area. There is nothing on the lot. Yet, I get offers to buy my "worthless" lot every now and then. Maybe once a year.
So, my question is this. How do we know all these people asking for a solution to this "disaster" aren't the same people buying up all of these properties? The answer is that we don't know.
All these people...one offer a year lol
I used to go there in 60s with my parents on Vacation because they wanted to see movie stars. We used to fish, swim, stay in hotel. Unbelievable. My Dad wanted to buy a house there my mom threatened to divorce him if he did.
Here is the deal as a resident of the imperial valley. The sea was meant to start cleansing last year on December. Clinton came down during election season and proposed to clean the sea. She realized how bad it was to live next to a polluted body of was water. Many of you dont understand the health issues one has living there. I developed bad lungs thanks to the polluted air. Cancer is a major issue caused by the pollution.
i want to know what the follow up of this
In 2020, water continues to evaporate and the lake continues to shrink.
There are residents who are working to clean up the areas around the towns where there is still lots of trash from decades ago.
The fish continue to decline.
Anecdotal evidence indicates that the human population continues to increase. We will see in a year or two, by means of the census, what actual populations of the towns actually are.
There are several current water projects to improve bird habitat related to water quality.
I just visited and that smell is one of the most peculiar things I’ve ever smelled in my life… still oddly beautifully it’s own weird way haha
I have a solution for this problem of the Salton Sea and that is to fully drain it out and start digging the land of the Salton Sea by 50 feet down and turn what once was the Salton Sea into a huge massive landfill because landfills in the state of California and the state of New Mexico Arizona Nevada and Oregon are running out and start running Rail lines to the Salton Sea and start dumping garbage and the way my solution will last at least 200 years for a landfill.
We have more than enough land area and the other states hardly have any people at all. Why would we sacrifice an extremely beneficial sea for that?
6:08 There are over twenty wetland/habitat areas closer to the Pacific Ocean in the flyway path of migratory birds:
1. Malibu Lagoon
2. Sepulveda Basin Wildlife Refuge
3. Ballona Wetlands
4. Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park
5. Prado Wetlands
6. Whittier Narrows Natural Area
7. Los Cerritos Wetlands
8. Seal Beach National Wildlife Refuge
9. Bolsa Chica Ecological Reserve
10. Newland Marsh
11. Magnolia Marsh
12. Brookhurst Marsh
13. Talbert Marsh
14. Upper Newport Bay Nature Preserve
15. San Joaquin Marsh and Wildlife Sanctuary
16. Buena Vista Lagoon
17. Agua Hedionda Lagoon
18. Bariquitos Lagoon
19. San Elijo Lagoon and Ecological Reserve
20. San Dieguito Lagoon and State Marine Conservation Area
21. Los Penasquitos Lagoon
22. Mission Bay
23. San Diego Bay National Wildlife Refuge
24. Tijuana River National Estuarine Research Reserve
And?
Thanks. I'm a California real estate developer, and you've given me a nice list of places to look at for my newest McMansion estate.
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its a shame theres nothing beeing done about this problem. i wish one day we can all visit and say " yeah imma spend the weekend at the salton sea"
Now where is this bar located at ? What is the name?
Why not feed the Pacific into it from the north since that will make it 25% less salty than it is now? Then, create another route so as to circulate around and back out to the Pacific from the south? The canals can be anywhere between 1/2 mile to hundred feet across while serving the inland Californians that don't want to travel 50 miles to the coast to cool off as well as recreation. If Dubai and China can build islands and Terra-form the way they see fit for real estate development and conquest, why can't this be made to happen for the Salton Sea?
I wish this lake was still the same way it was back in the 50's. It was so beautiful.... hopefully our government do something to save it.
U didnt mention the impactecs it caused to be their in the first place.
gov. brows fault .he is just thinking about illegals and not about cal. inviromental.
hedidit Have the illegals clean it up.
I've always been for letting this die, but after watching this, LET IT DIE, let it run its natural course like it has for millions of years, way before we existed.
I believe back in the 1800 or early 1900 the shipping and delivery of ice was a very good business, not everyone had access to a refrigerator, If brainstorming can be done to bring Antarctica ice Berg's down more than one problem would be solved.
Two options really:
1) The lake was an accident and shouldn't be there. Let it dry up and in the mean-time accept these issues are a consequence of stupidity and try to learn from it.
2) Over millions of years this lake has actually come and gone and at present is an important natural resource so is certainly worth saving. Trying to pump in sea water is just stupid as the resources required aren't sustainable over the long term...
...but, at least this time, the lake reappeared as a result of inflow from the Colorado - re-open the inflow that caused this in the first place and accept the consequences of 'loosing' that water which is currently put to other purposes.
The bottom line is California has a larger population than it's natural resources can support and there's no long-term solution that will fix it. Either reduce the population, and for the present individuals need to resource their use, or suffer the increasing consequences of pushing the area beyond it's carrying capacity.
Let this Mistake Lake dry up. Mother Nature is doing Her thing.
California actually has a huge amount of resources. They just aren’t used to their fullest potential.
Starbucks and McDonalds: "We want that property"
Just add those two, a super Walmart and a Home Depot. What more could we ask for?
The AM/PM sold out to Chevron, Kentucky Fried chicken, Cinnabon, Taco Bell, some coffee shop, and others have a restaurant inside. They will be mining for lithium and property values are just now going up.
Love the chair in the water!
Salton Sea Beach, been photographing this area for many years.
Would the water have to much salt for mangroves to grow.yours Evans w Robinson
I think mangroves can grow in salt water
The Salton sea is lower in elevation then sea level, it's already more salty then the ocean and it isn't all that far from the ocean. If you really want to save it just build a pipeline to it, and siphon some sea water into it.
Build a canal connecting the Salton Sea to the Pacific with chain of locks to allow boat traffic each way.Opening and closing the locks will create a water flow to the Salton Sea.
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As foreign immigration into California continues, and people continue to flee high living costs and taxation in the coastal cities, I think eventually something like what you suggest will get funded. The state will see $ signs.
All of this sounds too logical. Don't confuse the politicians.
what about building a canal from the ocean to the lake ... I mean, the water of the slake is even saltier that the ocean, It would solve the problem of drying out ...
I think the solution is rather simple. Ask mexico permission to sip seawater from the gulf of cortez. and lets ask the usa to allow the colorado river reach into mexico like it used to be.... and both countries will benefit from this arrangement . I'm sure mexico will agree instantly.
Why don't you fill it with asphalt as it dries up?.. and have car racist? Also find out what keeps the oceans alive and bring some of those plants over there? One last question can you sell the salt or is it too toxic
i think it was a sea before in ancient pre-human history and was connected to the sea of Cortez before. it is meant to be. only a massive sea can create such a low-lying feature that is the Salton sink.
When you see someone wanting to buy most of the lots around the sea, you can figure some rich turd is going to rejuvenate the salton sea as a development.
Make a giant bucket filter and stick the pipe into the middle of the lake.
Where did the birds stop before 1905?
To the wetlands around California that are now all dried up.
There are over twenty other options closer to the Pacific Ocean:
1. Malibu Lagoon
2. Sepulveda Basin Wildlife Refuge
3. Ballona Wetlands
4. Ken Malloy Harbor Regional Park
5. Prado Wetlands
6. Los Cerritos Wetlands
7. Seal Beach National Wildlife Refuge
8. Bolsa Chica Ecological Reserve
9. Newland Marsh
10. Magnolia Marsh
11. Brookhurst Marsh
12. Talbert Marsh
13. Upper Newport Bay Nature Preserve
14. San Joaquin Marsh and Wildlife Sanctuary
15. Buena Vista Lagoon
16. Agua Hedionda Lagoon
17. Bariquitos Lagoon
18. San Elijo Lagoon and Ecological Reserve
19. San Dieguito Lagoon and State Marine Conservation Area
20. Los Penasquitos Lagoon
21. Mission Bay
22. San Diego Bay National Wildlife Refuge
23. Tijuana River National Estuarine Research Reserve
only Huell Howser,he loved this hellscape!
I miss huell 💔
Why are people insisting on "saving" a lake that isn't even supposed to be there? Let the damn thing dry up and nature will take over. In a couple hundred years it will be a desert full of yucca plants as it originally was.
💯 agree
6:40 why not just the Pacific ocean it's closer, within USA borders and cheaper
Jon MacDonald people such as me live around here
There's a big ass mountain range in the way.
There are millions of people living along its shores that you have to do imminent domain to. Also the same reason we don’t have high speed rail here. There is also the problem that there are huge mountains in the way that run all the way to Mexico and farther down the peninsula.
This hopelessly polluted body of water was never meant to be!
But it will never dry up entirely for the increasing hyper-salinity and the fact it's below sea level has retarded it evaporation to a near halt. It will just get more polluted with time.
Good assessment, and I agree 👍
Also put desalting plants!!!!! pumping fresh water into it. a salt filter we'll call it
Salvador Acevedo as if california hasn’t got a fresh water problem already
There’s only two cities that matter in California San Francisco and LA if you live in another one you’re screwed
San Diego?
San Diego is the recipient of the Salton Sea's former inflows. This water will not be enough is what this person is saying.
And sacramento to a lesser extent. But I'm in northern central california and we are sick of this bullshit. We need state of jefferson now SOJ51
I live in San Diego and you are wrong!
@@alicehallam7949 San Diego purchases approximately 85% to 90% of its water from Northern California and the Colorado River.
How would bringing in salty water from the ocean 'save' the Salton sea? There is no outlet, so whatever flows into it stays, minus the water that evaporates. What stays behind is any salt, or other chemicals dissolved in the water. Even fresh water will add salt over time to a lake with on outlet. Stabilizing the ocean water will eventually make it as salty as the Dead Sea. No fish could live in it, birds couldn't live there.
Why should it be saved? It shouldn't be there in the first place.
+NZpnw the damn government created it they need to fix it.you obviously didn't watch this thru It is Dangerous the air is horrible
Man created it, man must maintain it. Not that difficult to understand.
They literally explain why it needs to be saved...
NZpnw ya some aliens just came and temporarily put it there
As the video says (just a few minutes in if you actually watch it) one reason the sea should be saved from drying up is because it's exposing very fine toxic dust which is hazardous to living creatures, humans included.
How about farmers stop using synthetic pesticides. This never would havf happened
Grant someone the rights to the abandoned land around the lake for building the pipeline to refill the lake from the ocean.
would it be cheaper to make a pipeline come from the pacific instead of the gulf of cali
The strange saga of the Salton Sea. Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink.
The sea was there before dried up and refilled because of an accident.
If they could only bottle that smell.
They once had five bars there but upstart Los Vegas drew away customers.
Who knows what could be at the bottom of that sea. Considering what kind of stuff I saw in GTA😬
GTA a great place to get historical information.....what a moron
Stupidity caused this open cesspool. But letting it dry up would cause more problems. No good solution. Just put up a sign that reads: "Dont drink, swim, or look at the water. Dont breath the air. Stay away from the dead fish and birds." There all solved.
There is an obvious and less costly solution to the problem. Divert water from the Colorado back into the sea to stabilize the water level. Build desalination plants on the coast to make up for the lost water. Use solar power to run them. This is the simplest and most feasible fix and it can be implemented in a few years. Building canals from the ocean would be more costly, less practical and wouldn't help wildlife which need fresh water.
I need to check this place out and go fish tilapia :D
I visited this place with some friends about 6 or 7 years ago, it was pretty cool to see, a different experience than expected. There's plenty of bones and area to go exploring, I'd personally bring a few medical masks and a lot of water, have fun, let me know how the fishing went.
256ji8682075jh62-6 7653728 Beware of the Toxic Cyanobacteria.
Last year I photographed an Osprey with a 1LB Tilapia, followed it for a mile and the fish was still alive.
Oddly at the same time these "environmentalists" allow billions of gallons of water flow into Frisco Bay, all the time, to save a few dozen tiny fish.
Get your story straight.
its due to the fact...this salton sea was made on accident.it shouldn't be there in the first place
@@dannybuilding1044 Exactly
You realize that is naturally flowing water that form waterways which includes the shipping of agricultural products from the central valley right? The Sacramento and the Dan Joaquin rivers are extremely important to the state’s development. For the fish, those are endangered and species that get wiped out can hugely influence the environment in countless different ways like increased parasites. The UK destroyed their large hunters like wolves which ended up with deer destroying the forests.
@Danny Building True. But with heavy urban development in California along wetland areas, the Salton sea took up its role that the other areas had use to play. It also has naturally formed before too in the past.
Why don’t they plant trees to stop soil erosion from wind
Mesquite Palo verde and iron wood are good desert choices
They don't tell you about the fact that the residents polluted that lake.
The fertilizers from the farmland irrigation runoff polluted the Salton Sea.
@@handico77 Lets clean it up with a desalination plant!
I say it was farms and their runoff
@@rockyracoon3233 super expensive
@@jred7 Scrap the bullet train!!!!!
So we effectively need to glass the ground...?
the best thing to do is to not let it die. definitely better to deal with it look at death valley. california and nevada, arizona, new mexico are all drying up, because of drought, and we consume and never put back. that is an issue. want to see thinos change you have to recharge.
it all comes down to priorities. there isnt enough excess colorado river water to send there. Land values? Gimme a break. Its hot as haides there, windy and dusty. Air quality well there are solutions for that.
One thing we need to do is move water from the ocean back inland to places we need it and if we can do that while generating clean energy we have a chance to mitigate climate change and still have a prosperous future. It is really, really hard but it is not impossible.
The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution.
Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions.
A better future is possible,
Las Vegas is going to look like that soon
Drain it. Use it as a dump to put all the disposable plastic we don't recycle.
I live in Salton sea
I've been there. Very interesting place. The history is interesting. Leave it alone. It wasn't there before. And now it's going away. Let it die in peace. The Salton Sink will return to what it was: land useless for anything. Man's further interference will only compound the problems unfortunate that they are.
You do realize if the sea dries it’ll affect thousands of people
@@martinalba5751 life is a risk. Not to be negative
There should be a huge filtration plant built and Monsanto should pay for it.
Monsanto it's a Canadian firm. Wright?
farming runoff pollution, so have Monsanto pay for a solution.
but, but, but...… that would cost Monsanto some money and stockholders might not get a third quarter profit sharing check.
That's not too far to pump in some sea water. A 12 inch pipeline is all it will take.. Make it happen then build a desalination plant there and send that water to the Colorado River.
what seagulls and pelicans eat there if there are no fish
Let the thing dry up, dig one big hole or a bunch of smaller holes, scrape the former lake bed into said hole(s), cover up and allow native vegetation to establish. Problem solved.
The whole toxic dust, death and destruction angle sounds a bit contrived. The salton sea was a naturally occurring body of water that came and went at least twice going back tens of thousands of years ago. It dried up naturally, every time and it will dry up again, naturally. The focus should be how to keep water out of that basin, not put more water in it.
Youre an idiot it wasnt contaminated back then the farm run off has done that
@@ziegfeld4131 Wouldn't stopping the farm run off be a smart idea?
Still nothing is done
connect it to the ocean
heavyarms117 it’s like 2 1/2 hours away from the sea dumbass.
It would probably be possible to connect it to the sea of Cortez.
Horrible idea. The salton sea is located in death valley and is around 100 meters below sea level...take a moment to think what would happen if you connect the ocean to it.
The entire valley would flood.
@@newnamesameperson397 Take a moment to think about the fact you can control waterflow from the source. mind = blown
They move millions of gallons of oil there easy enough shouldn’t be that hard to run a pipe that far ?
The sea needs saving if restored it can be a tourist attraction again, the birds and fish can come back and the residents will stop getting astma
Is there an update to this?
its dried up even more and become even more toxic.
Yup nothing has been done really. Watch miracle in the desert the rise and fall of the Salton sea
Bringing in sea water will make the Salton Sea more salty. Unfortunately with no water leaving this body of water it will only become saltier.
Less. It is saltier than the sea. More water at lower concentration added will reduce the concentration.
A FLOOD HAPPENED AND THE WATER FLOWED INTO THE LOWEST PART OF THE DESERT, THE LAKE HAS BEEN FILLED AND DRAINED THROUGHOUT MILLIONS OF YEARS, IF YOU VISIT YOU WILL SEE A LINING OF WHERE THE WATER USED TO BE ALONG THE MOUNTAIN, About 50 ft higher than it is now. How is this our fault.
salton sea had been nice in the 1960's but slowly the fish warnings were to not eat more than a few oz if pregnant or a child, warning of Mercury in the fish, Water nasty, and had to wash off children when they played in the water, now as the fish are dying off, the birds eat the fish, and dying from the mercury and other things in the sea water. there are nice fishing spots nearby that are fresh water for the birds so as fast as the sea dries up the better for the thousands of migrating birds to have a chance to live. dept of Fish and Game have the fresh water lakes.
YOUR ANSWER Is in HOW the Water got there in the first place. But . . If the Water was 'Given', why think something is wrong when it's Not anymore?
Poison Minerals and Chemicals ? Wait, Where did they come from?
No, not unless someone tapped into buried 'waste'. Wasn't Land was dry before?
You do realize that the San Andreas runs under the lake bed and refilling the lake could trigger an earthquake in LA with the additional load put on the fault, correct?
That would take care of the homeless problem. In the meantime, move the homeless to the banks of the beautiful Salton Sea and give them each a shovel..
@@modeladenny1218 Our society doesn't work. the homeless problem is just a symptom. Eliminating them just means your turn is next...
No. That isn’t how earthquakes or fault movements work. Plus, the sides move sideways.
Thank The good Lord the bar has not dried up. Where there is warm Milwaukee's Best and wine from a box... There is always hope.
By watching videos about the Salton Sea, and conducting a few calculations based on publicly available data, I've figured out that, as a reasonable estimate, it would take the removal of enough salt to account for as much as 100 Great Pyramids of Giza, to bring the lake of the Salton Sea to normal salinity, Enough salt, at 17,000,000 tons per annum, with which to salt the roads of the US, for the next 35-years.
I got a plan to clean it .. !
Okay what is your plan
Let us save the Colorado river
Yet another USA success . well done.
The Chief Engineer of the canals was a Canadian. Think before you post.
If its possible to pump oil from Alaska why not pump water from the Mississippi river?Not only for the Salton Sea but for the entire state of California.
Matias Dieguez A study by a California University has already been conducted and it has been determined that desalination of ocean water is now on par with transporting water around California.
+Peter Hall this is an inland Sea
Matias Dieguez we need to let this place die, so that we don't have to deal with it anymore. I shouldn't be there to begin with.
ya
It is also a welfare basket case.
So where have the contaminates.come from they must have been there before
There it is the answer to the homeless problem I've got sewage and electricity out there
Humans thinking that they're going too live like before . that's not right he magnetic poles have been moving at an unprecedented speed . they're move already 1878 miles from their original position . in new York the last year was when the less hot days on history and this year we're on July and they're only one day over 90 degrees ice is coming to the world
Isn’t dry the way it was before the river flooded it? Funny all these ‘remove the dam’ efforts there are, but nobody wants to return this area to how it was originally.
Cant belive its a issue ,ol guilty consious .drain that mother.
So they want to use water as a toxic waste dump....
"improved property values?" Someone wants to live next to a toxic waste dump??
a body of water for recreation.... hmmmm. water covering toxic waste.... Don't think I'd vacation there!
All they need to do is restrict water use until it fills up.
NO3- it’s a 13x35 mile lake, and we live in a DESERT😂We can’t restrict water usage more than we already do
Yeah, this was an artificial lake caused by an accident. This reporting is not only presumptious but also dishonest and misleading.
All of the farm land and fertilizers ruined the water..