Thank you for your candid review. Rebellion is my favorite board game (along with Twilight Struggle and Axis & Allies), and it's encouraging to hear that this expansion is WORTH IT. I must say, as someone who grew up loving Axis & Allies style combat, I never had a big problem with Rebellion's combat engine. But if this is an upgrade on that, then sign me up. Although, my friends and I -never- follow the "limit 5 dice" rule. Always gotta have MORE explosions.
Thanks for the review Cody, knowing its out in the wild is getting me more excited. I can see 3 reasons why you would use the new ships/vehicles, the green dice allow you to increase your dice pool beyond the 5 black, 5 red dice limit. They trigger the new abilities on your combat cards (2 for alliance, 3 for imperials) and their more flexible when assigning damage, since they can hit black and red targets.
Matt Crawford I think that's the key with the new units. If your fleet/army is maxed out on possible red and black dice, adding a few green units increases the chances of hits even more. Plus, the tactics cards for the new units appear to be heavily focused on support or unique effects (like the U-Wing's ability to rescue captured leaders).
We use to say in my country "Seuls les cons ne changent jamais d'avis!" (only the ass#@&%$ never change their mind)! So OK: I have to admit I recently changed my mind about the ROTE expansion of SWR! After being disappointed twice and having sold it back twice, a friend of me made me play SWR again with the expansion ... And it was great! He used to play (and we still play) with some very few & light adjustments that seems to have a success on the forums: 1) We mix the BASE + ROTE mission decks while removing all the duplicate cards (so we don't choose deck)! 2) We randomly prepare the objectives decks (5+5+5) shuffling ALL the cards (so the DS plans may be in or not)! 3) We give the 5 starting systems probe cards to the Empire player instead of removing them from the game! 4) We always start with the BASE setup and never with the ROTE setup (who favors the Empire too much)! Best regards - May the force be with you - GG
You might choose the tie striker over the fighter when your one of your fleets is already rolling 5 black dice or if the rebels have a lot of red hp ships (green being slightly better then black for this). The other reason of course is to take advantage of its special power in the tactic cards.
Just picked up this expansion for Christmas... was watching the video, and figured someone had already chimed in to answer this... and here it is ;) It does seem logical... the green dice units augment the red/black dice to add just a little more punch... then the Tie Striker is nice specifically because it has a card for BOTH the Space Tactics and Ground Tactics set... makes it flexible and very useful in both theaters of combat!
I really wish I was in Dallas as I would definitely play board games with you and your group. If your travels ever get you near Baltimore, Washington DC, or Harrisburg, PA let me know.
Great review! One of my favorite games of all time so this expansion will be an auto-buy once I can get my hands on it. I don't live in Dallas but my work brings me there a few times a year. Next visit will be in late-Nov. I'll reach out a few weeks before to coordinate. Would be totally fun!
I appreciate the review Cody! I think the Green Dice add an interesting decision as far as re-rolls in combat go. There's now an interesting heirarchy for re-rolling dice. If you're trying to do damage Let's say you're trying to do more damage to a black HP unit. If all of your black dice are hits, and Red and Green dice are misses, you'll always choose to re-roll your green dice. Re Rolled Red to Red will always do damage 75% of the time. Re Rolled Green to any will always do damage 55% of the time. And Re-Rolled Red to Black or Black to red, will always do damage 30% of the time. So really I think they are there as sort of a damage buffer, and help combat not end up so lop-sided. My biggest frustration with combat in Rebellion, is that it so heavily favors the attacker in smaller skirmishes. Which means the Rebellion starts out, somehow, obscenely powerful, and capable of capitalizing on the Empire deployment mistakes in comical fashion. I think that the green dice even this out significantly in later stages. It makes combat more reliable and bloodier, which de-incentivizes the Early game, and late game "Rebellion Combat Campaign".
The advantage has swung to the defender in the expansion. As far as Im aware the new blocked damaged mechanic means that the attacker doesn't have chance to block damage from the round they are rolled (only remove damage from a previous round), and blocks rolled in the first round won't help the attacker and they can't save units that were completely destroyed. Some of the new tactic cards change the order you roll so its something you can plan around.
I'm glad they've designed this to use the new combat rules with the base game content. I'd like to be able to jump around to different eras. Maybe a Clones Wars expansion down the road?
If I recall, FFG said a while back they weren't going to do any Star Wars games set in the prequel series. Rebellion does have some worlds/artwork from the prequels, but it is generally set in the original trilogy. Still, who knows what they've got planned or what they'll come up with.
I was really not a fan of combat in the base game. It was easily the weakest part of the game (and should have been one of the strongest). The expansion really makes it a lot better.
i get so pumped when i see a game i'm searching for has a video by TDG.
Happy to help!
Thank you for your candid review. Rebellion is my favorite board game (along with Twilight Struggle and Axis & Allies), and it's encouraging to hear that this expansion is WORTH IT.
I must say, as someone who grew up loving Axis & Allies style combat, I never had a big problem with Rebellion's combat engine. But if this is an upgrade on that, then sign me up.
Although, my friends and I -never- follow the "limit 5 dice" rule. Always gotta have MORE explosions.
Ha! Fantastic! Happy to help!
Thanks for the review Cody, knowing its out in the wild is getting me more excited.
I can see 3 reasons why you would use the new ships/vehicles, the green dice allow you to increase your dice pool beyond the 5 black, 5 red dice limit. They trigger the new abilities on your combat cards (2 for alliance, 3 for imperials) and their more flexible when assigning damage, since they can hit black and red targets.
Yeah. I can see that. I just don't know if it's enough overall to justify them over other ships. I'll need to play it some more.
Matt Crawford I think that's the key with the new units. If your fleet/army is maxed out on possible red and black dice, adding a few green units increases the chances of hits even more. Plus, the tactics cards for the new units appear to be heavily focused on support or unique effects (like the U-Wing's ability to rescue captured leaders).
Indeed.
One of the best expansions to any game in the last 5 years
Agreed.
Nice to see you continue reviews in Tx!
Hope I'll be able to do more.
We use to say in my country "Seuls les cons ne changent jamais d'avis!" (only the ass#@&%$ never change their mind)! So OK: I have to admit I recently changed my mind about the ROTE expansion of SWR! After being disappointed twice and having sold it back twice, a friend of me made me play SWR again with the expansion ... And it was great! He used to play (and we still play) with some very few & light adjustments that seems to have a success on the forums:
1) We mix the BASE + ROTE mission decks while removing all the duplicate cards (so we don't choose deck)!
2) We randomly prepare the objectives decks (5+5+5) shuffling ALL the cards (so the DS plans may be in or not)!
3) We give the 5 starting systems probe cards to the Empire player instead of removing them from the game!
4) We always start with the BASE setup and never with the ROTE setup (who favors the Empire too much)!
Best regards - May the force be with you - GG
Fantastic! I’m glad you came around!
You might choose the tie striker over the fighter when your one of your fleets is already rolling 5 black dice or if the rebels have a lot of red hp ships (green being slightly better then black for this). The other reason of course is to take advantage of its special power in the tactic cards.
Indeed. Thanks!
Just picked up this expansion for Christmas... was watching the video, and figured someone had already chimed in to answer this... and here it is ;) It does seem logical... the green dice units augment the red/black dice to add just a little more punch... then the Tie Striker is nice specifically because it has a card for BOTH the Space Tactics and Ground Tactics set... makes it flexible and very useful in both theaters of combat!
I really wish I was in Dallas as I would definitely play board games with you and your group. If your travels ever get you near Baltimore, Washington DC, or Harrisburg, PA let me know.
Will do.
Great review! One of my favorite games of all time so this expansion will be an auto-buy once I can get my hands on it.
I don't live in Dallas but my work brings me there a few times a year. Next visit will be in late-Nov. I'll reach out a few weeks before to coordinate. Would be totally fun!
Please do.
I appreciate the review Cody!
I think the Green Dice add an interesting decision as far as re-rolls in combat go. There's now an interesting heirarchy for re-rolling dice. If you're trying to do damage Let's say you're trying to do more damage to a black HP unit. If all of your black dice are hits, and Red and Green dice are misses, you'll always choose to re-roll your green dice. Re Rolled Red to Red will always do damage 75% of the time. Re Rolled Green to any will always do damage 55% of the time. And Re-Rolled Red to Black or Black to red, will always do damage 30% of the time. So really I think they are there as sort of a damage buffer, and help combat not end up so lop-sided.
My biggest frustration with combat in Rebellion, is that it so heavily favors the attacker in smaller skirmishes. Which means the Rebellion starts out, somehow, obscenely powerful, and capable of capitalizing on the Empire deployment mistakes in comical fashion. I think that the green dice even this out significantly in later stages. It makes combat more reliable and bloodier, which de-incentivizes the Early game, and late game "Rebellion Combat Campaign".
Very interesting. Thanks for the viewpoint!
The advantage has swung to the defender in the expansion. As far as Im aware the new blocked damaged mechanic means that the attacker doesn't have chance to block damage from the round they are rolled (only remove damage from a previous round), and blocks rolled in the first round won't help the attacker and they can't save units that were completely destroyed.
Some of the new tactic cards change the order you roll so its something you can plan around.
More dice! Total agreement... just so there is less passing back and forth across the table. Please, FFG! Give us this!
Indeed.
I'm glad they've designed this to use the new combat rules with the base game content. I'd like to be able to jump around to different eras. Maybe a Clones Wars expansion down the road?
If I recall, FFG said a while back they weren't going to do any Star Wars games set in the prequel series. Rebellion does have some worlds/artwork from the prequels, but it is generally set in the original trilogy. Still, who knows what they've got planned or what they'll come up with.
Ouch, the sound volume on the outro is not good for my ears :(or my speakers)
But it did wonders for your heart!
Tempted to get it, loved my first play through of the base game, didn’t feel anything was missing but only one game in
I was really not a fan of combat in the base game. It was easily the weakest part of the game (and should have been one of the strongest). The expansion really makes it a lot better.
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer does it add a lot to the game length? And can you put everything into one box? Thanks
@@Janisurai No - it does not add to game length. Yes, I have everything in the core box.
I'm with you on never going back to original play and rules again after getting the ROTE expansion. Great overview.
sentient02970 Thank you, sir!
You move to Dallas and Harvey came with you. Hope you are safe from the effects of the storm.
Indeed. I'm well north of the storm, thanks.
Just picked up Rebellion + Expansion
Fantastic! You're gonna love it!
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer I got a friend who's a major Axis and Allies/War Games Buff. We both LOVED TI 4.
@@LeeroyPorkins TI4 = Greatest Game Ever!
@@TheDiscriminatingGamer Indeed
Would love to see what games you brought to TX. Did you sell what you didn't bring?
Sold some, gave more away to friends.
With the interdictor, if you are attacking the rebel base, does it also make relocation impossible (seeing as no units can retreat)?
I don't believe so. I'd have to look up the rules again.
You couldn't retreat if your base was under attack anyway. If you leave it, you lose. You'd need to start the evacuation beforehand.
Welcome to Big D. Fellow neighbor gamer here.
Like our Facebook page and I message me through that and I'll add you to our gaming group here.
Can you play with the new combat rules but without the rest of the new content?
You might be able to make something work, but the expansion brings new dice to the table for combat. Also, new units and missions.
Welcome to Texas!
Thank you, sir!
Love this game!
Fantastic game! Thanks again for joining me!
Ordered based on your review.
Fantastic! Happy to help!
How "modular" is this expansion? Can you play with the new combat rules but without the new units and green dice?
Yes. I believe so.
I'm eagerly awaiting the Binks-woks expansion
Fantastic!
Is that a wooden Insert for the game and Expansion too?
No- just for the base game. The insert did have an extra block in anticipation of an expansion, however. So it all fits.
Do the Star Wars shine bright deep in the heart of Texas
Legally you can be shot for making that joke in this state.
This expansion is a complete no brainer, wish the combat was non-wonky but its take my money anyway lol
Agreed.
Hey Cody you are not going to become a Dallas Cowboy are you? Or was that a pre-req for them letting you into Texas?
I recently found a photo of me when I was like 6 or 7 wearing a Dallas Cowboys hat and coat, so I think maybe I always was...
The Stalker has a 50% higher chance of dealing heavy damage since he has 2 crits
Indeed.
The Discriminating Gamer *100%
Fantasy Flight: King of milking the customers utters for everything they have.
And yet, we all bend the knee. Again and again.
Is it possible to cannabalize the expansion to change the combat in the base game? I don't really want the Rogue One content in my base game.
Yes. I believe so. The U Wings can be pretty handy though for transporting a trooper here or there.
lol, Jyn on that drawing looks nothing like Jyn. They're licensed, got her on a cover, but didn't on a token, shameful
I know. They should have done screen caps all the way, baby!
I meant to say fan..
why the hat? you're indoors...
Because I'm afraid I'd blind my viewers with the glare from my receding hair line.
hahaha!
I've just subscribed to your channel
welp - rogue one characters? no thanks, Disney / Fantasy Flight. i swear marketing departments are the bane of existence.
Your loss