[Epic Seven] WHY TO NOT USE A HEALER FOR FRONT TANK WYVERN 13! 2023 New Player Guide

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  • Epic seven guide for new players starting the game. This will cover everything you should push to do on day 4. We are prepping to clear out first hunt 13 tomorrow while also getting your team twice as strong for clearing story.
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  • @CheonM4a
    @CheonM4a 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for delivering us quality content and information. Before playing this game I researched some of the basics and the common outcome of my search is the same as anybody else which is not only confusing for newbies but also ends up wasting your efficiency. After following your guide so far even if it was my first time doing it, I find myself ahead even from your videos as what you have said few videos back that those who are keenly following the guide is way ahead of you. It's not only that, but once you're ahead, you have a ton of time to do what you want to do instead of having problems like "my units cannot get past this stage or so".

  • @DeityGacha
    @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Note if you did raise momo its fine, she is great for some later game content. You did not waste recourses. But hopefully this will give an idea why we are following a certain path through the game. The biggest push back has been from How we are building our wyvern teams. This is a visual representation of why.

  • @nilagangbaka1697
    @nilagangbaka1697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have tested this a couple of times as well when I started a new account last month. You are absolutely correct. I tried momo first but it took a lot of resources and it's very hard to have a high win rate on dragon because she dies to fast until you get magaraha's but once you equip this she won't die and you will fight the dragon for a very long time until she dies. I created a new account and rerolled for destina and crozet instead and it's much better I even got to champion rank arena on day 4. I just moved the free hp set to destina and she carried me.

  • @ArcaneMantis
    @ArcaneMantis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you Deity for bringing the UPDATED strats for this game. This was actually SORELY needed in this community as when you do ask questions and such as a new player or even just lookin up vids and guides a significant portion of them are extremely outdated and it becomes and echo chamber of old data.

  • @unscrambeldegg374
    @unscrambeldegg374 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    do i smell 3 uploads in one day?

  • @DeityGacha
    @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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  • @cocobean.72
    @cocobean.72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Momo served me so long as tank for w13, now I have switched to rose cause I was building her for fire expo. I haven't seen any drastic improvement in clear time but now I don't have to switch artifact everytime I use momo in other pve content

  • @Fanomanom
    @Fanomanom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Haters gonna hate! You keep making those guides and help us out!

  • @Laj_93
    @Laj_93 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still behind on crozet just need to wait on tokens for laby. Pulled an Aria though and am wondering if she would be a good tank for wyvern? Stealth sounds nice but not sure

  • @harryhoskins5418
    @harryhoskins5418 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Deity I saw your original video about the 30 day account before you started making the day by day guides abt it and you mentioned that you were able to get a Mystic summon pity in that time and would cover it in a video, which one have you covered that in (if you have)? thank you, really struggling for ml landy pulls haha

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can get about 100-130 summons in 30 days, between clearing abyss, moonlight theater guild wars and farming hunts

  • @ytshinichi9944
    @ytshinichi9944 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    unfortunately i dont have crozet. took me 400+ selective summon resets to get destina and rose and i did stick with it. its a bit less consistent because the backline isnt fully shielded but works good as well due to the attack buff ^^

    • @Raiko01
      @Raiko01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's from connections

  • @Sully992
    @Sully992 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Honestly i dont even know why people are so controversial about what you're saying... After making a new account and reaching day 5, I put crozet on the free health set like you said, and he works perfectly with +9 gear with a 10/15 success rate, the next day i just finished the gear sets on mui and t guard and sigret, and its already a 13-14/15 run ON DAY 6. Having the barrier from crozet helps them not die on first phase and he tanks wyvern as if he were the wyvern. Plus the health set is just so good on him since not a lot of chars use hp % boots so its gear efficient for a new acc!

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yep, glad you are listening. Just seeing in there they are spreading that following my guide is bad and without giving any reasoning why so I'm making sure players who are getting different advice understand my reasoning behind the decisions we are making

  • @hieulenguyen7123
    @hieulenguyen7123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My english not good, do u have a group or discord where i can read all guide? Tks

  • @titdaivuong2018
    @titdaivuong2018 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm only level 12 and have aria, tama, destina, speche tenebria, taeyou, can those figures be able to attack and beat WYVERN and pve , do I need to replace aria with another character?

  • @Cranson92
    @Cranson92 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What are your thoughts on Sinful Angelica for Wyvern front tank? Pulled her and thinking of going her, Muwi, Sigret, Furious. She kind of avoids the momo issue by not really having healing, lol.

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You need to be able to 1 shot when using her. She is not an early game wyvern front tank

    • @diglyd
      @diglyd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Singelica gives you 2 turns of immortality and in those 2 turns you need to kill Wyvern. Hence why you need something like Straze to 1 shot, who is a ML5 who you won't have until he rotates around (and you have enough Mystics to pity him), or unless you get extremely lucky and pull him and then you need to have him on a Rage Set with 5200+ attack (or you need a watcher Schuri or Karin/Sigret combno). You also need Singelica on 200+ Eff Res and someone like SSB (Seaside Belona) or Clarissa to 1 shot wave 1, both om high end speed gear with a lot of attack and Crit Damage.
      You don't and won't have any of that for a long time.
      Normal Angelica is your only other option that is actually better for Wyvern than AMomo because she also gives a veery strong shield and is a better healer,
      Amomo is a cleanser and her heals suck unless you put a strong healing artifact on her like a Rod of Amarylis which is a 5* artifact, which you probably don't have. What makes her tricky early on is that you need her to cycle faster so you have to put her on Speed set which you don't have an extra one early on and which would be better on Muwi. (Furious on Speed/Hit set goes first, Then Muwi on speed/Hit or Speed/Crit with eff ring second, Then Sigret on Attack/crit set, then AMomo/Angelica/Corzet. That's your speed turning rotation). Muwi and Furious should be on 65% effectiveness and your goal is to get Sigret to also be on 65% effectiveness while also having 400-5000 attack and 300 crit damage and 85+ crit rate which is doable on Attack/Crit set or Attack/Hit set depending on how they roll.
      Later on you will swap her to Rage/Crit or Pen set or swap her out with Straze and your Singelica.
      A popular non Straze, 1 shot team option would be Sigret on Rage Set, Singelica, SSB (Seaside Belona) and Karin both on speed/crit sets. You can swap Clarissa for SSb ir Flan fir Karin. You can also use Remf rom Re:Zero if you got good enough gear. For 1 shot Sigret with SSB you don't need 65% effectiveness just attack and crit damage.
      Anyway back to regular Angelica, she is by far the safest and easiest W13 tank, but the 2 downsides are that you have to Mola her S2 and S3 fully (and then you won't use her at all late game unlike AMomo, so it's kind of a waste of molas) and she heals way more than Momo so if you get 15%ed she will stay alive even longer than AMomo would.
      She does make story and some Abyss floors, as well as early Arena pretty easy though where you can just brainlessly auto everything, because of how bulky she is and how massively she heals., but if you already have Tama or Destina healing is not really a problem.
      However I think using a Tank if you aren't sitting in front of the screen all day is good advice, especially when you consider that you will be running W13 thousands of times.

  • @gammagamma3699
    @gammagamma3699 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Idk. Just build ur muvi and other hero (furious for ex) more than 60% effectiveness. And use ane front hero. Healer, tank, it doesn't matter. Bcs wyvern attack ur back line without 2+ debuffes. When wyvern has 2+ debuffes - ur tank or healer always will be under attack.
    I use angelica and happy. No problem. Recently i changed muvi on summer bellona. Im happier more. Bcs she deal dmg, has counter attacks and with low effectiveness can put on wyvern at least 1 debuff

  • @ejchelette5986
    @ejchelette5986 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im in the selective summon screen. Talk me out of taking Iseria/Crozet/Achates, lol. I had to start over because i was 6 days into the guide and never saw a Crozet or Rose. I took Destina/Double Tagahels on that one. Edit: wound up taking Destina/Crozet/Aurius. Only 141 pulls, not too bad.

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You didnt need to restart! but iseria crozet achates is fine. You do not have to start with destina crozet. Destina will just help you push to champ arena and play RTA faster

  • @2purplerefrigerators
    @2purplerefrigerators 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    just to note, rod of amaryllis heals a lot more than it usually does on amomo compared to most soul weavers since she cycles nonattacks super quickly, so that makes the problem look worse than it is with another artifact, like magarahas or proof. not trying to disprove your point, just wanted to point that out.
    also, I think the reason why they suggest using amomo over crozet is because it really isnt necessary. once you get a pet, background battling and fast forwarding sort of makes failed runs taking forever irrelevant. it just goes on in the background when new players keep advancing story in the foreground, so taking an extra minute every few runs doesnt really matter. amomo is also just used a lot more as well i think. crozet is better in wyvern, but he really isnt best in slot anywhere else. I used aras as my fire expo tank for a pretty long time early game and it worked fine before i switched to krau lol, i think that official discord recommends aras as well. but other than that, i cant really justify putting resources on him, even as he's sitting at 6star friendship10 in my waiting room. amomo and her cleanses are also super helpful when clearing story, especially near the middle of the story when more debuffs start coming up, so keeping her on the tank gear is really nice since background battling doesnt save the gear heroes have on and youd otherwise have to ungear crozet to keep playing adventure.

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      he allows you to set up an expedition lvl 3 team immediately once you get choux as well and helps with a ton of other content. I cleared all of adventure with crozet front tank up to zio on the 30 day challenge account to help prove that he is useful for everything. with magaharas momo you will cycle to your s3 faster and it end up staying alive the same just about. You are correct on everything though and will be fine going that route. But the route im showing also has many merits and reasons behind it for pushing into pvp fast. The thing is using momo for other content you dont want her dirt slow on a wyvern build. So having crozet fit those roles you can then put momo on proper gear that can even be used in early RTA effectively as well as labyrinth and anything else she is good in.

  • @user-hd2ce5tx7g
    @user-hd2ce5tx7g 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ty for useful guides, i have a question here. Who do i choose for 2nd selective summon?

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Choux -> Senya -> Politis, Alencia, Celine is the order I suggest. Choux first priority

    • @titdaivuong2018
      @titdaivuong2018 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DeityGacha I'm only level 12 and have aria, tama, destina, speche tenebria, taeyou, can those figures be able to attack and beat WYVERN and pve , do I need to replace aria with another character?

  • @beldin2987
    @beldin2987 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My impression here, as a new player was, that the most important thing is that as a tank that you need the right artifact that lets you and the whole team take less damage. Thats in the end the important thing that a healer as tank can't provide.
    On another note, on Ras i prefer so far "Rise of a Monarch" that i luckily got a while before, since it doesn't make him eat more extra damage from all the other party member. While my Crotet has actually an "Aurius" that is not upgraded, since in some fights i noticed that if you upgrade it too high, the tank eats more and more damage, and at some point the healer has prolems get him up again, while all the AoE heals are wasted. Correct me if i'm wrong with that.
    To Iseria, yeah i have her, but i never used her again after maybe the first 2-3 hours so far.

  • @donmatteo448
    @donmatteo448 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, i'm on day 3 of the guide and i'm starting to build a wyvern team. I don't have a tank unfortunatly, should i 6 star Angelica with the potion? Ty for the guide, it's incredibly helpful!

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would suggest doing montmorancy. she is usable in more content later than angelica

  • @erykolop1
    @erykolop1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to use Crozet in the front with S3 turned off
    His shield and Def buff + atk break on s1 is pretty useful

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      On wave 1 having it on helps keep backline alive by provoking though, having it on does help consistancy, plus if your effectiveness is below 40% you wont get the atk break too often

    • @erykolop1
      @erykolop1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DeityGacha I kept my Crozet at 60 something eff back in the day.
      Skills turned off helped cuz his s3 also pushes back, so it kinda disrupted the turn order of the enemies

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      at the end of the day whatever you find works for you is what to do! I can def see why it worked well! @@erykolop1

    • @erykolop1
      @erykolop1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DeityGacha Ye! Now I have a completely different team, but hey, it worked like 2 years ago when I needed it 😂 Sure, the runs were like 2-3 minutes long, but the winrate was high

  • @bluesonora6804
    @bluesonora6804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Deity sry, i disagree with this message on this vid. imo its better to use angie as tank/shielder/healer. even if your debuffers have >100 effectiveness (my SSB and muwi), it can be, that they can't land enough debuffs, so wyvern attacks other than pos 1 (tank/healer); maybe its a bug. i use since over 1 year SSB (the only one with good gear), muwi (set from hunt challenge), sigret (set from the first 3 or 5 logins) and angie (set from the first 3 or 5 logins). i maxed all gear at +15, not godgear, but it works till today. from 100 runs i have max 2 fails on autoruns. i realize that often angie turns the run from fail to win, if no min 2 debuffs are on wyvern. sry for my bad english 🙂

  • @ROGERPIRATES-xx2xe
    @ROGERPIRATES-xx2xe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use healer or not still the best to use healer ur other unit just no gear thats why they hey die so fast

  • @hibari759
    @hibari759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use angelica and I got to wyvern 13 in 6 days, I always get at least 2 debuffs on wyvern, my team is chloe, sigret, furio and angelica , it works just fine
    Edit: I only lose when furio miss his def break, but I guess it happens for almost any team, not sure tho

  • @scaudbreaker9090
    @scaudbreaker9090 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    O que é preciso pra entrar na guilda bro?! Sou iniciante e estou seguindo à risca o seu guia

    • @scaudbreaker9090
      @scaudbreaker9090 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      E não consigo entrar em nenhuma guilda boa

  • @roqle11
    @roqle11 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They all just hating, its actually the best decision i make switching from angelica into crozet, failed debuff instaa failed run no need to sit through 1 min of Anglica nonstop healing, and im using furious now that the 7th day login give me song of star artifact 😂

  • @Setsuna00GMeister
    @Setsuna00GMeister 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💜💜💜

  • @FloppyhatCult
    @FloppyhatCult 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    need your thought, isn't furious pretty much free and easy? the only reason why your backline is dying because taranor are not reliable enough to do def break, and since sigret are focus on dmg she doesnt have effectiveness either. Just replace him with furious with blind ee, thats 2 debuff.
    Edit : you are clearing zio on 30 days new account, I won't believe your new account can't do furious connection.

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is an option but furious takes mola gora. Furious is fantastic though. Im pushing for players to have more mola for pvp units while getting the pve job done without spending too many. you could also still get 15%ed a ton ending in this same situation but it would be less often

    • @FloppyhatCult
      @FloppyhatCult 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DeityGacha okay, now I understamd the whole context and purpose. So its to save mola as much as we can. But is it really worth though? 10 mola for stable w13, and you still have 100+ mola from beginner mission.

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wyvern 13 will be just as stable if not better by tomorrows video as crozet keeps characters from having any chance to die in wave 1. but i used every mola on my challenge account pushing pvp so that is a big part of why im trying to be as frugal as possible from the start. Really appreciate the comment and fully agree with everything you say in it for using momo. Definetly works just fine@@FloppyhatCult

    • @xwrathx1702
      @xwrathx1702 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It might be less stable but the runs wont take as much and overall you'll end up actually completing more runs even if it's less unstable rather than the other way around.

    • @PetitSavon433
      @PetitSavon433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DeityGacha you showed a run where you get RNG from Muwi and Sigret so it failed. it happens whatever is the team, so I dont understand how it's any "proof" that a frontline healer is bad. Plus, your argument to use TG because molas is kinda weird since your Crozet used molagoras too.
      Muwi/Sigret/Furious/Momo would have musch stable runs, probably faster too because Furious lowers gears requirement and could also be put together in a few days. Imho this feels like a waste of resources regarding Crozet

  • @dieasap
    @dieasap 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't really have a choice when you don't get crozet or anyone else that isn't a free healer x.x (early on, follwing the guide I mean)

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes but you now know why i suggested what i did. Also switching out once you do get a tank is worth it

    • @dieasap
      @dieasap 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DeityGacha Oh yeah I totally get that, just really sucks if you don't get crozet from summons yet, for example like in my case. You have to endure the endless cycle lmao definitely regret not doing selective summon for 300 times to get both destina and crozet lol

  • @KulotGG
    @KulotGG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro i have a theory that i want to know if it will work, what if i reroll for chloe with crozet then use crozet chloe sigret and furious as a w13 team?

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That team can work just fine!

    • @KulotGG
      @KulotGG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DeityGacha thanks bro

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The problem is you miss out on destina or iseria that are both amazing to have for different reasons when wyvern is easily clearable without taking that route@@KulotGG

    • @senju3182
      @senju3182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can work but pls dont do that, mui is SOO MUCH BETTER then chloe, you do not have idea of how good the cr push mui gives is. You can do it without furious, but again you will need 85% cc, soo really, ist that worth have chloe on a wyvern team

    • @KulotGG
      @KulotGG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@senju3182 thanks

  • @nicolim4190
    @nicolim4190 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But you said in newbie guide part 4 "if we are not have crozet you can use rose, angelica and angelimomo" So now im already build angelica and see this video... Made me so hard to think now

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can use them to get by and they do work. This is to show why i suggest using a knight. Both work but this shows benefits of not using one

  • @shoblessed
    @shoblessed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question do u recommend using tg over furious?

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Taranor guard does not take mola gora where as furious does. Furious gives more overall for your team is definetly nice. You can do either! Furious may give you more but at the expense of using some of the molagora you will want to put on your pvp characters!

    • @shoblessed
      @shoblessed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @DeityGacha I think I'll try out tg no muwi yet so I'll have to use alexa

    • @senju3182
      @senju3182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Furious enable the team to have only 35% cc soo you can focus on another stts, in future he will make your good items on pvp units and shit gear on your wyvern team and this is will works very well

  • @kitsuchii6809
    @kitsuchii6809 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Then i was lucky i made wywern 13 team in 6days with momo tank not dying 😂

  • @Fabiohermis
    @Fabiohermis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can totally use Angelica on an all Hp set with Idol Cheer with Chloe being your highest Attack…

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes you can, and you can still end up in the same failing situation. This is about new players following guides and chloe is not on anyones guides to do for your first wyvern team

  • @frakeit7561
    @frakeit7561 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    frontline non healer is better if your debuff is still inconsistent
    frontline healer is better if your debuff is consistent

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, so new player = do not use healer

    • @frakeit7561
      @frakeit7561 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well at the end it's just a preference, you will know the better as you tried both and it's not a fatal mistake when you miss the opportunity as newbie cuz newbie still learn the game

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh def not and having Montmorancy later can be great. Im not saying people who do it messed up but showing the benefit of not doing it
      @@frakeit7561

  • @NerineMemori
    @NerineMemori 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly so over people saying you have no idea what you are talking about. Litterally following your guide i pushed through episode 3 on in 6 days. Like...we get it this is the the ideal starter guide. But again this is, "Masters in 30 days." It's going to be diffrent. They need to just deal with it.

  • @marieree5096
    @marieree5096 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me using healer since 2020 lolol

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you are already doing it it is fine, but for new players im trying to show why am i suggesting they avoid it

  • @dinho178
    @dinho178 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My angelica =0

  • @Ar0nMN
    @Ar0nMN 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hmmm i see

  • @Kitty-we6il
    @Kitty-we6il 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wish theyd remove the 15% rng
    its so dumb, man

    • @DeityGacha
      @DeityGacha  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, if they removed that then healers front tank all day xD