DO WOMEN UNDERSTAND A MAN'S STRUGGLE???
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"When I talk about what I go through, you don't have to talk about what you go through" 💯
Facts
I swear💯
That’s how therapy differs
True. Only the whole point of this meeting was to discuss the differences or similarities 🤷🏾♀️
This ironic. A woman that acts like a man telling a man to stop talking about what a man goes through 🙃
😂😂😂
Make it make sense
THISSSSS
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U can’t make this kinda stuff up…only in real life 🤣🤣
Misfit doesn’t know when to be quite & just listen. This was truly a conversation about what men go through and she tried to debate them and belittle them by calling them “bitter”
Quiet*
Smh
Typical female shaming tactic
@velCROhash dope track and video
Honestly her opinion is should be voided she clearly a lesbian who carries herself as more masculine and is arguing bias opinions in defense of women and undermining the honesty transparent perception and truths of a man made this argument handicapped she should jus support they need a woman there who would in someway value a man’s opinion
Like Dave Chappelle said
" When a man's wants to bring up his problems ... Women always insert there problem to tell you to get over it ...instead of fixing the guy ... "
Smh , 🥺😢 that part!!!
That's why I turn a deaf ear to their cries.
Words💯
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Naw dawg. No sin is greater than the next. A man pain is only personal to the man. Just like a women being rape is personal to the women. In the end she saying it's all pain. What makes our pain greater. See we must understand pain is pain.
Fax + tax
Women always tell men how they suppose to feel but has no idea what they go thru 💯
Men do the same to women as well. I just wish they would cut back on the over talking. But I get it we do that in real life in heated convos.
@@andrewilliams9921 but the difference is when a man goes to talk it's straight into the point we're supposed to be practical with the words that we use when a woman talks it's very emotional and as a man we can never win an emotional conversation with a woman
And vice versa
This is the perfect personification of the Black Man’s plight with the Black Woman. Our pain is OURS alone. We have to be there for without ANYBODY being there for us
Str8 like that 🤷🏿♂️
100%
You realize black women feel the same right? Point is, no one takes the time to understand each other and that will never change.
@@dgayle2348 least you know the truth 🤷🏿♂️is what it is
@@dgayle2348 Except your pain is coddled and validated... that is a false equivalency. There are hundreds of programs and special services for BW and girls... and very little for BM and boys. When we try to start them, you block them. Case in point, Obama's initiative "My Brother's Keeper." Black boys are reading at a 4th grade level and y'all are more concerned with cosmetics, hair and skin color.
Yo math I’m in tears bro thanks for speaking for me I deal with that pain everyday
" As men our issues don't get acknowledged, cause we are supposed to be tough." Man that hit a bit different. It's so true.
Ms. Fit pulled a Jedi mind trick by centering the conversation on women's issues when it was supposed to be about the struggles men go through.
Bingo
Exactly.... Let's talk about the problem at hand ...not women's problem.... Stay on topic!!!!
They always do that lol
She is a messed up female talking about female issues WHEN the conversation was about male issues 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😔😔😔
They run from accountability lmfao she flipped it about her. Women privilege lmao
The man is guilty till proven innocent. 🖤
Math with the general population in prison was a hard ass rebuttal to Misfit, shit was perfect
As a father currently fighting to see his kids and watching the system constantly side with the mother because of what she says not what she can prove not what the facts say but purely on her word and the lack of financial support to fight the case and pay astronomical child support it’s incredibly frustrating and demoralizing to know that I’m going to be behind the power curve regardless. Men across the country need to come together and create change from inside the system and stop this. Children need BOTH of their parents in their life. I know their are circumstances that maybe say otherwise and that’s different but men who not only want to be in their child’s lives and also want to help financially get killed by the system and and math is completely right the cards are stacked against us as fathers
Come to the manosphere, bruh.. we have a support system. Obsidian Media Network is the main point person.
Stay strong bro 💪
Hold ya head up my guy and don't give up! Wish this on no man. Fight for yours bruh
Really moving comment bro. We really do need to do something about this because we're not getting any help from those who profit from our pain. I'm going to think about some ideas. Thanks for sharing...
Appreciate it fellas
The fact there's arguments when people are describing pain is turmoil
1000% correct, let a man acknowledge his pain and express it without someone always inserting the info about how they feel. Now you wonder why men do not share their deepest thoughts or feelings. Math is a 1000% correct what he is speaking on is not equivalent to what Ms. Fit is talking about. Black men are a target whether they are good or bad, and that's a scary thought for any man walking out their house. Now Ms.Fit is partially correct about men being paid more than women- but you have to dumb that down more bc when you put them in class White men are paid more than black and Spanish men, white women are paid more than black and Spanish women. Side note- and this is not for anyone to take offense to but when we have these conversations sometimes its best to address this amongst ourselves of our own kind before adding other cultures. IJS but S/O to ya'll
I will agree and say that the end of the conversation when Ms.Fit explains the difference about a dad and a father- is dead on. People do the bare minimum both men and women and think its parenting, when really it involves more - this was a great convo.
You said "someone," but I get the feeling you meant "women," which is the problem. When women have issues they don't run to men, they run to each other because they support each other. As men we shouldn't expect women to be there for us--we should expect other men to do that but we can't because it's not masculine or manly for men to express weakness to each other. So we're just alone. If we want to change that then we need to change the "rules" for being a man.
@@dgayle2348 good eye, when saying someone I was speaking in general but to put it in perspective yes we are addressing how women dont actually listen to what is being said. They just hear but dont understand. And I am 100% woman, I use to be like this until I had boys of my own and now I Listen and hear them clearly. Looking thru another set of eyes to understand the dynamics of all of us.
The reason why women get paid less than men is because they take more time off, take jobs that pay less than the jobs men take, and are less likely to ask for a raise…… It is illegal to pay women less. If it was legal, then it would be smart for companies to hire more women than men because it’s cheaper labor, right? Ms. Fit doesn’t know what the hell she’s talking about.
@@nykkilee5880 Yet she didn't offer a mom/mother dichotomy... she was gaslighting the men, as usual
As a woman, I see how men are going through more and more with less and less rights to be honest. I’m thankful for is men talking about it more openly on a lot of platforms so that I can somewhat understand the pressures my man faces- and how he works hard cause he wants to hold us together. It’s taught me to put in more effort to make sure every dinner is BUSSIN bussin when he gets home, make sure the house is comfy and clean as a 5 star hotel. Budget even better to do right with his hard earned back breaking money and make sure I make sure I look good and keep myself healthy and I make sure to LISTEN to him and open the space for HIM to start talking cause he’s so used to having to just hold it all in he still won’t tell me EVERYTHING- he had a really hard upbringing and I LISTEN and engage with what he says because it’s already a weird for him to actually open up and have a chance to actually talk about it with no judgement - so he feels at the very least appreciated because even when he’s not working HARD I see him getting stressed cause he’s thinking about getting more money to keep not just him but BOTH OF US happy. Men are really out here doing life risking things to put money on the table to support families in quiet and I can only imagine the stress that comes with along with the stresses of actual work- he deserves some of that stress taken off or see some payback for all he does. Us women don’t realize the easy pass we get in life- so how selfish to try and push for more.
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I really appreciate this comment.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Great comment. Very well broken down.
Bullseye 🎯
I normally don’t do this(read comments or post comments) ….. this comment made me feel good inside!.you are appreciated
I just told my people this the other day. When a Black man is sharing his perspective and giving insight to what we as MEN CONSTANTLY GO THROUGH. Black Women (Not All, Just Some) DOWNPLAY OUR PAIN & SUFFRAGE. Instead of just listening and understanding. This clip is a perfect example of it. Instead of just listening and having an open ear, you turn to Equal Pay to downplay what the Black Man Goes Through, then Combat Killing Black Men with Women being Raped? This is exactly why the conversation can never be had. Women will down play the issue and compare themselves to us.
Y’all kill each other so why should someone care if you get killed by a cop. Y’all are a problem….. the biggest threat to blk women is blk men. And when I say threat I don’t mean it in a competitive way.
What Black woman downplayed your pain in this video? Yall keep bringing up these black women doing things and there's not one in the picture.
@@twill5077 "When I talk about what I go through, you don't have to talk about what you go through”. I see you in your feelings, and having a hard time listening. GOD BLESS YOU THO. I hope you heal from whatever lack of understanding you may have from the message.
@@JODYE4RMTHESIX never in my feelings, especially about an idiot, but I do have a difficult time processing lies and bull. And your fake blessings I don't need because I'm good over here, but God doesn't like liars, something you should take up with Him instead of sending out your curses.
*I’ve come to the conclusion that you can’t have these conversations with certain women, you’ll bring up facts & they’ll bring up emotions🤦🏿♂️*
That's all they have
It was the complete opposite in this interview 😂😂😂 math was emotional and Ms fit was direct to the topic.. this shit is karma Women been been suffering in silence , now y'all see how it feel
Thank you Math. I feel your pain. Been fighting to be in my son life since he was born. He's 11 years old now. I know there's better days to come but I do have to keep in mind of the damage my absence may have caused him.
If you fighting to see him your absence is not your fault. Keep fighting brother God got you. 🙏🏾
File for custody and see how things work out. I guarantee things will definitely change.
Keep EVERY receipt, and show him when/ if the time is ever right so he knows you tried. Not out of ego, or to demonize the mom, but for truth’s sake. But only if necessary. Stay strong.
Great conversation. It's so true when men talk about there feelings it's always compared. That's why we shut up and hold everything in.
Men are definitely aren't allowed to express their pain, their confusion, their trauma without being seen as weak or less of a man . This is a real thing .
Facts 💯💯
Stop with the equal pay nonsense. I’m tired of it. They take the overall pay of men and overall pay of women and calculated it without factoring in the type of jobs, the hours worked, the seniority, and the vacation time taken. Men work longer hours and I see it everywhere I have worked. Occupations like nursing, teaching, pediatrics, childcare, social services are dominated by women but have a lower salary. Look at women doctors compared to men doctors and the medical specialities they select. Women make up a larger percentage of family medicine, psychiatry, pediatrics and obstetrics/gynecology. Men make up a larger percentage in surgery, emergency medicine, anesthesiology, radiology and internal medicine. The specialized areas selected by the men make more money. They often fail to compare the salary of a women anesthesiologist and a male anesthesiologist and actually factor in the hours worked. Also pregnancy is also a reason as well. I’ve seen women on maternity leave for months. I had a supervisor stay out for 6 months because she had twins. My male coworker had twins too and he was out for two weeks. Of course u don’t expect the woman to be back right away cuz she just had a baby. So please stop with that nonsense.
They always bring that up , I’m a man I made the same as the woman at my plenty of jobs I had in my life . if anything they make more than you if not they work in better conditions like less hours or an office or hr rep . If I need to make more money I had to work another job , start a business . Even when young and I was low I had to sell drugs . I make my pay not a boss . I didn’t go on google and type in men vs woman pay statistics . It’s a sad way to think . Same thing with the rape , it’s a sad case and it should never happen but if you feel weak or scared you need to carry . Young boys are scared of being killed they don’t cry about it they start to carry or take self defense classes or MOVE . There’s never an excuse in life , it’s always a complaint . I agree with you 100 percent and if men voice their opinion like this you’re misogynistic or hate women . Btw I change and went to trade school graduated as an electrician apprentice and now a master electrician with his own business , and work a warehouse overnight on the side . Can’t cry about it , a woman could’ve done it too .
@@uytuyhrhyt8628 congratulations my brother
This is a powerful and much needed conversation 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Watching this is just heartbreaking 💔 on so many levels.
This is a perfect example of women hearing what they want to hear... math nor any of the male guests said anything about rape.. smh
Exactly!!!
She just went to the worse thing that could happen to a woman.
@@InMahdWeTrust Really? MATH was the one who put you on? Really? I guess Malcolm X, the Civil rights movement, and Slavery just eluded you huh?
In 1971 a book was released by a German women called Esther Villar called 'The manipulated man. ' The book argues that contrary to feminism and women rights, that women in industrialised cultures are not oppressed, but rather exploit a well-established system of manipulating men. Women threatened her, for saying things such as a man doesn't need marraige and that women control men by using sex and compliments as a tool to get things and even idea of romance being used as a tool. I recommend reading this 👌
Most men ain't ready for that type of thinking....they deep down still want women's approval
The red pill reverses that manipulation.
@@gasdemup Which makes them beta
@@KtotheG Whenever I see a man going through women issues in general. It was cos the potential to provide was diminishing. He is loving her unconditionally, but she loves him until she cant coercively controll him no longer. We all need some of the red 💊
@@zackhussein8933 Yup, that's why men need to be just as savage.. they don't love unconditionally, so neither should we.
Good segment Math keep this kinda talk going maybe we can get a break through one day. Right now though it’s seems hard for women to understand a man and what he really goes through and how it really affects him mainly because they don’t care they lack the true emotion to show true sympathy for a man because deep down inside somewhere there feel inferior, so how could u ever have sympathy for someone u feel is over or above u in some way…u can’t, but what u can have is resentment, distain, and a need to compete and compare. That is usually the way women respond to men it’s only when wanting something or needing something does then they act like they care about a man’s true feelings but most they look to show surface level interest in our flight because men are simple and easy, which doesn’t mean it should be taken advantage of but it does by society every day all day. So basically no one care if a man is having a hard time or being used and abused unless it directly affects them as well they could care less. If I’m wrong show me 5 public examples of how that’s not the general census and I show u that u didn’t follow the story long enough or thorough enough to see the true conclusion for the man
They're solipsistic and they only see men as utilities.
You made a good point with the part where you said deep down inside they feel inferior so how can you have Sympathy for Someone who you feel is above or over you.
That one had me thinking.🤔
great points .. a couple views I never thought of
@@mightyrichard514 same
As women we tend to forget that men as little boys are conditioned not to show emotion, “man up”, “stop crying”, “stop acting like a little bitch”. We as women never stop and think how traumatic this behavior is to a man and how they carry this into adulthood. Many times we have to learn how to look beyond a man’s cover and understand they they are the way they are…. Sending positivity to all the men in world and women too so we begin to heal from our generational traumas 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
We need to get to a point as human beings, men & women alike, where we can share our traumas, express our issues and not have to compete on some whose issues are worse shit. Men have hurt women immensely. Women have hurt men immensely. Both sides need to be acknowledged. All you're doing is triggering the hell out of the other side by not acknowledging their pain.
Nobody is more coddled than grown ass women. Stop the cap, bruh. Not even babies are put on the same pedestal as them.
That was well said 🤝
So true. Freedom to unburden yourself by expressing your hurt and pain should be met with LISTENING and COMPASSION. Math's experience moved me to want to hold him and tell him that he was wronged. Why was that so hard for MisFit to grasp? Why was she unable to feel his pain? He articulated it clearly. She even put words in his mouth.....("f btchs" is what she heard) HOW SWAY?
Amen
Why we comparing
Both go through hell
No, just like we don’t understand their struggle, we’re not the same, that’s why we come together to become whole
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Exactly
Ty
This is the best debate ever among the team I’ve seen lately
When Math spoke on a man's pain she said he sounds bitter and laughed about it. Regardless that is under-minding the pain.
Respectfully, the gender pay gap is largely a myth. The methodology of the study that was done did not take into account many factors like tenure, vacation, days taken off, maternity leave, etc. Analogously compared, men and women are paid pretty equally.
The point is that we each have struggles. There is a natural support system that exists for women and a cultural movement that has arisen to supplement that. You can mention the RP community or MGTOW maybe. But there is no comparable system that naturally exists for men, in addition to the societal stigma that men are supposed to carry their emotional load differently. True self-advocacy is in no way supposed to disparage the other. And that goes for both sides.
I appreciate this show, but they lack insight in so many topics every show.
@@TH-cam_stole_my_handle I feel you. But none of us know everything. I’m learned. Not intelligent necessarily, but fortunate to have had great teachers. I’m not saying that to big myself up; but rather that - for all their talents and successes and opportunities - these are every day folk discussing larger than life issues. We can’t expect academic dissertations and conventional debates. The appeal is that they provide the occasion for this kind of discourse for those who’ve never been involved with it and those who want more of it. And each one teach one. Our part in the conversation is to add the context that might be missing in the room.
Lies I just left a job that was paying men And women differently in 2021. U need to stop the lies
@@sugarsholivetrue6321 report them. It’s literally illegal and they love to make examples out of those places. You’d be millionaire.
@@TH-cam_stole_my_handle already doing so ✊🏾 but we need to stop pretending women are treated equal in society because that is a lie perpetuated by men and pick me’s
Ive been married for 20 years and I can tell you I don’t think I’ll ever have a relationship with anyone else if something happens to her. Yeah I’ll be heartbroken, but in all honesty I would be scared to be in a dating environment with all the crap that’s happened over the years. And yeah, no one goes jogging alone at night unless they have protection wether that be a gun or a body-cam. And don’t even bring up the rape and sexual assault that men and boys go through, or getting assaulted physically by a woman because they know if the man hits back he will be in cuffs. I’ve seen men call the cops on being assaulted by a woman and the man get pit in the back of the car and taken away! From a house that he owned and the woman was a new girlfriend that had just started staying there. But yeah we got to treat y’all like Queens while we are getting are balls pierce by y’all’s hi heels… we don’t get to be Kings, because a King could be considered a higher position of power…
The bottom line is the system had taught us well and too many of us can't snap out of it. Closed minds don't get fed.
Her: You’re making this about you… (next sentence) I can do the same job as you and get less pay.
Math: we get killed…. Her: see you’re making this about you… 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Right !!!
That statement about men getting paid more was also FALSE. The wage gap will always be unfair because women will never work in factories, be HVAC technicians, electricians, work in power plants & etc. at the same rates men do. A man and women working the same exact job doesn't get paid unequally.
Listen, this is why more men need to KEEP talking to each other, their friends, women, elders, etc...especially since most men refuse to talk about their feelings at all! AND... most men refuse to seek out a professionals help so the community must become that therapy that's needed. Just make sure it's a safe place with someone you love and trust🙏 It's so very important that we all keep talking to understand, acknowledge and empathize with each other's pain AND do so with an open and compassionate heart, men and women alike. Everyone deserves to be heard and to have their pain/traumas validated, we've gotta do better as a human race to lend a sempathetic ear and give each other advise or point them in the right direction if we don't have the answers. Otherwise, the next generation will go through these same struggles and they too will be unable to communicate their feelings, FR. Next time, just give that man a hug MsFit and deescalate the situation bc Math clearly just wanted to be heard and understood in that moment bc it's clear that conversation struck a very personal nerve for him! His kids will probably watch this one day too and they will know that he didn't want to leave them bc he loved them deeply. I am personally for more job training (cops) AND more resources for men across the board bc they are finally willing to open up more about their daily struggles and issues. And a lot of male cops are the ones who treat them guilty until proven innocent and they also believe the women who lie over the males esp bc women tend to cry and that just isn't fair or right. Not always but I've personally seen that happen a lot! For the most part, our psyches need to be rewired FR! As someone who lived a traumatic childhood, I too struggled with opening up about my feelings and it took me well into my 30's to get there and I still struggle with it and I'm a female so let's all keep these dialogues going🙏 God Bless all ❤️
The problem that most of those stats that feminists spew is that they come from bad comparisons and false parallels which ultimately lead to false information. But it would honestly take a book to breakdown all these falsehoods to the point where the convo is impossible to have.
Bro baby girl is so frustrating. She just like most women in this situation...she don’t listen
S/O to E.S.S.O for keeping it 100.
Overall this was one of the best episodes. S/O to Math Hoffa, your show is informative.
Oh girl been tripping last couple clips lol
Women don’t care about our issues. They always make it about them. If a man and a woman breaks up, a man will always be the blame of why it went wrong. They will go to the woman and ask her “what did he do”? It’s never what did you do but what did he do. We are always wrong before assessing the situation and proper evidence in a woman’s eyes. Whether it’s a domestic case, r@pe, other false allegations, etc. When women get found lying on a man, there’s no consequences but a man has to live with a tarnished name for the rest of his life. Y’all women don’t get it.
Worddd
A lot of men say it’s about the child all the time but I don’t see too many men filing for any kind of custody. It’s always an excuse.
Big up Math he definitely picked up on the titles, you know this one everyone is gona be 🔥🔥🔥
She proved his point by her very actions in the moment.
Ms Fit you can’t show empathy when u try and match plights. Sometimes just hear us out and let us vent sis. Our truth shouldn’t feel like an attack on y’all 💯
Well said
Best comment. ❤️
This conversation was healthy! Thank yall
Women and false equivalencies every single time smh 🤣🤦🏿♂️
That Nigga Said “I Don’t Know Pastor Such & Such” 😭😭 He Don’t Let Nothing Bout God Get Pass Him 😭🦾 Good Convo Tho Keep Em Coming 💯❗️
Wow, she said to a man that had a woman lie on home to put him in JAIL, “y’all sound bitter though”, wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So how is he supposed to sound, someone that is human please explain empathy to me??????
And I love the amount of respect and love they have for Dread! Like he is mad funny but really appreciate the respect you guys have towards him.
Such an important conversation in our community
WE BUILT THIS CITY, YO MATH. NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT THIS. BUT THIS IS A FACT, MEN BUILT RAIL ROADS, BUILDINGS, COMMUNITIES, BRIDGES, VALLEYS, LAKES ETC. with out those things we dont have a society.
I understand where misfit is coming from because she has a point but to answer her question NO, WOMEN CANOT DO ALL OF OUR JOBS and NO, MEN CANNOT DO ALL
OF WOMENS JOBS. So honestly, we have to consider to try and co exist together and do our best to play our roles.
Damn, Math is passionate about this shyt... Age old conversation bro. We all feel like that in some way
Having a convo with a black women is like looking at a brick wall they rather argue ND debate then convo
You shouldn't be discussing this if you don't understand that our struggles will never be the same, men and women have different interests, characteristics, etc. To me dying at the hands of a cop is not comparable to being raped because I'm more likely to die at the hands of a cop. There's nothing wrong with that. You gotta STOP saying my situation is worse than yours. It's impossible for anyone to just accept their day to day isn't as complicated as something they don't go through. Support isn't saying my situation is worse, support is saying I'm not gonna let that happen to you, both men and women gotta say that to one another, I gotta help you against those fucked people that love to destroy others, we need to support each other and not make this a petty competition
They have to to have the clip
Excellent comment.
we need to support eachother cuz at the end of the day we all going through it every black woman every black man everybody on this planet and that shit aint getting better but we gotta stay up im not gone say together cuz rn that word to strong
Amen
I’m not saying this happens all the time but whenever you’re venting to a woman about your struggles they always answer you with their struggles 💯
These are the conversations I like
They both not staying on subject and that’s what’s really fucked up 😂😂COMPREHENSION IS KEY
MisFit think she is always the smartest in the room and always talking and not listening. #TRUESTORY
This 👍🏽
WE ARE GOING THROUGH SHIT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO. PLEASE NO INTERRUPTIONS! 2022
And she did call men bitter. I feel you Math I had to deal with the same BM drama.
Choose better bm’s🥱😴
@@tilabryant5591Of course, first i was 17 at the time i am now 50 with a wonderful marriage. People make mistakes I wanted to be her husband she could have fixed that, and didn't.
The prejudice I had to go through with the child support system for 23 years was enough, I wont deal with it it from a stranger speaking out of ignorance on TH-cam.
It's amazing the lack of accountability women just automatically just start placing blame on males, which was the topic of the video in the first place and you just fall right into the narrative that separates us as a people in the first place.
Cmon son.
@@firejaws777 had no business having a baby at 17
@@Lenasevilla-yb4eiyeah sure i was the first one made that decision. I'll get right in my time machine and fix that straight away.
You know the more you reply with answers like that the more you prove our point.
@@firejaws777 take your L on the chin and stop whining. Other men didn’t make your bad decision this is your fault. Take accountability 🤭
Shot out to this platform for speaking on real shit.
The plight of men in Amerikkka and the plight of Black Men are two different things completely
Loved this talk. I'm a man so I understand where Math and others are coming from but Misty held her ground and made great points. Great talk👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Damn I really felt that about ya daughters Math. I been in a similar situation. That shit make you feel like nothin when your kid tells you, you left me and didn’t care. Shits like a knife in ya heart. Big ups too Math!! Keepin it 1000!!
They get that from their mothers.
He needs to file for custody.
I love my Man with the religious X Clan energy. He a cold piece of work 💯😆
💯 respect for Math..REAL is imbedded in your DNA..
Lmfao hynaken saying nobody jogs late at night. On my MF soul I felt that like
Right, like cut the bullshit 😂
A leader doesn't doesn't need his plight to be understood.
Damn going through life without nobody understanding u is tough
Love the passion that you’ll have. Love watching & learning from you guys.
MzFit likes to think she's subjective & unbiased & even somewhat logical but her *initial* responses are not. They're typical & emotion. Even when she said "I would never say All men" after she just said "Men are the most privileged".
Most butch women think like this. They literally walk a fence.
Ya know as a man who was in this situation to, I felt how this conversation progressed. I felt that shit to my core. MisFit is my hero still tho, because I know many women I just wished would understand it when I tried to explain a different point of view, not in argument form… but to express a different viewpoint. This was an amazing discussion you all.
These subpar mothers are NOT putting their childrens needs BEFORE their own anger and grief from a failed relationship! My husbands ex he has 4 children with uses them as pawns and it’s devastating!!
This has been the most INTENSE video yet MY GOD MY EARS ARE GLUED
I watched the court take my bf baby mom side in the child support court. I was there to speak on his behalf and they wouldn’t let me which was crazy!. She was a side chick that yes he sleeping with and she kept the child. But he wasn’t a deadbeat. She got mad when I got my place and he moved with me after we been together for over 7yrs! So she took him to child support and lied and said he wasn’t doing anything. Granted we always had the baby when she wanted to go party etc etc. and the judge only listened to her lies and granted her a high amount of child support. So I agree men do be silenced.
And how is he a victim? She was hurt and bitter.. he wasn't honoring neither of you 🤷🏽♀️ made your bed lie in it
@@JasPGC what is your opinion on the side chick that had the baby?
@@dedricklane4899 She has low standards, a lack of self respect, low self esteem, no sense of self value the list goes on.. I'm not rereading the comment but from what you just said that sounds about right
This is a great conversation to have. I love this debate
Both points are valid. Math is speaking from a personal level which is why this convo can't move on. Stick to the topic vs making it personal all.
I 100% agree with Math
Women need to LISTEN more and SPEAK less. Stop inserting ourselves into a black man's struggles.
There Sis, we are not the same.
#iLoveMath
Where is Kevin Samuel when you need him...Misfit with this masculine energy cutting men off lol
That was great point - a black man talks about his hurt he is bitter or bytchen - black people are not allowed to cry or be hurt!!!! like we damn machines!! I think Math should have had the space to speak on his experience. Honestly men need to have men focused topics with each other because we as women are not going connect and we are going take it some kind of way and vice versa women need to have space to talk women focuses issues with women
The og with the Gucci mask is the greatest
Shawty can't say we stand with yall did say yall sound bitter when talking about the truma we go through of course we're bitter
& I'm not saying women also don't have their struggles but at least women get a platform to talk about it without being looked at as weak or soft
The problem is she trying to make it a competition who have it worse
Fit doesn't realize how much she was proving their point.
The same conversation has been going on and on for a lifetime or two. One thing I know both men and women BOTH go thru a lot especially black men and women. There are pro and cons to either one some advantages some disadvantage can’t stop it that’s life.
Hmm...so Math believes Black women have more social status than Black men? Are you crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzy? Really Math. 😢😢 So all the births of babies during slavery were from Black men? So all the rapes that created an entire nation of Black Americans from 1600-1860 were of Black men? So all these Black men also later give birth to these babies? And for you this same pattern of abuse and oppression that still exists, only exists for Black men? Are you insane Math? Really?😢😢
@@travelingwithvanessa please don’t go to the past. It does not help the argument going forward. We are in 2022 you talking about 1600 or 1860 I’m not a fan of the victim Olympics. We have to continue to move forward I’m not talking about emit till because my mother wasn’t even born I’m talking about MLK jr because I wasn’t born. We have to talk about today how do we move forward ? How do we grow ? That’s all that matters because in the year 3000 we are all dead SO let’s start the work today FUC* the past we are present 💯
@@reggp1 You are welcome. Glad you appreciate all that Black women were able to do and endure to bring forth our presence. As no one is guaranteed a future, it's nice to hear that a man of her womb is grateful for all that she has done for all men. Have a wonderful week. 👍🏽
@@vanessabrantley3689 ………. Okay
Math this conversation is so needed bro!! This shit was wild triggering because in my neighborhood I’m perceived as the “good man” and even I been thru all the same shit y’all talking about! Non of us is exempt from going thru this bullshit. So if everyone is saying they don’t see it then that means it’s intentional. Thank y’all for standing up for us in that room B word up! 💯
The main issue is that us as men don't support each other like women do because it's not masculine. If I'm going through shit and I call my boys up, they'll try and give advice but after that they like you gotta figure it out on your own bro. Why can't we support each other like women do? Why does being a man mean you have to face everything alone, can we change that?
We could but we won’t tho lmao on the bright side women support they’re full of shit friends blindly & ruin each other lives enabling their bad decisions
This interview TRIGGERED ME. Black Men UNITE . WE ALL WE GOT BRUH IN THIS SOCIETY. I'M NOT TALKING BOUT REAL WOMEN. BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S REAL(MY REAL BLACK MEN)🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾NUTTIN BUT LOVE COMING FROM THE TRIPLE D
That’s y we are the way we are. We don’t give a f after a while. We try and try but woman think it’s a game. Until we leave or stop helping. Then we suckers and all these other names.
We have no wins at the end of the day.
Ms fit said she takes herself out of the equation but says “I don’t do this “ I don’t do that “ but society in general doesn’t see it like her
A lot of people do dismiss what Melanated men deal with as if we are just supposed to take all of the foul shit that gets thrown at us. There's probably a small percentage of Melanated women who don't add to that foul shit and have understanding
When math explained the anger his daughters carrying towards him and then said it wasn't his choice I just thought about how SOME women really don't understand what some fathers have to go through or pain they have. If the mother of the children has caused so much disfunction and hurt it should be acknowledged.
Thank you sir! 🙏🏾
@@Mathhoffa salute to you math and I'm a big fan of the show.
if y'all would have stepped back and listened, you would have realized that Sis was right from the door. She agreed with everything y'all was saying, but the thing she did that y'all didn't, she kept the conversation in topic....
Ms. Fit is wilding !!!
That female component kicked in real quick with the cuttin people off 🤣
i aint gon lie but ms.fit can actually articulate her point. even if we all disagree...she can articulate lads. understandable at the very least.
keep pushing hoffa we support you my g
“Acknowledge my pain” is deep. Dope content Math.
ES$$O sounded like a reverend speaking to me while I’m strong in the 1st row . @11:00 and so on 💯
It's so hard to stay connected to this podcast bc of all the overtaking. Yall need a moderator ASAP.
That's true
Math is speaking for all men men get accused wrongfully all the time her body her baby I quit
SMH SOMETIMES THERES NO POINT WHEN SOMEONE IS EXPLAINING SOMETHING TO YOU IT'S JUST THEM TELLING YOU SOMETHING THAT MAY AFFECT YOU DIFFERENTLY EVERYBODY WANT TO BE HEARD BUT DONT WANT TO LISTEN🔑🔑🔑🔑