@@morrezra I don't even remember saying that, but I guess they used to have an avatar of Mr. Popo, who is a Dragon Ball character that resembles blackface. It's amazing how easily a comment can age like milk.
1:17 Jeremy also implies that he would feel MORE sorry for a criminal mastermind or serial killer rather than a "small-time felon" whose jail sentence was much shorter.
I wish they had done a better job in the movie of explaining why Scott was in prison. There's the small news article about the events the prequel comic covers. Basically, Scott found evidence that the company he worked for was scamming their customers. I think it was an insurance company. So, he used his skills to transfer company funds to all those people; but he was also caught since corporate espionage is still a crime. One of the reasons he did it was because he wanted to be able to look his daughter in the face while teaching her to always do the right thing.
@@bryanwoods3373 lol "they should explain this better. Basically, what happened was *explains it exactly like in the movie* Then what was the point of you explaining it if you're not gonna really add anything that I don't already know from watching the movie?
Ants forming structures out of the bodies of their colonies is one of the coolest things to happen in the natural world. It is definitely a real thing.
Missed missed sin. Yes, due to surface tension they don't drown even when they're on the bottom of the floating lump of ants, and they also rotate so the ones on the bottom aren't always the same ones.
11:10 is probably one of the most scientifically correct parts of this movie. Because some types of ants actually can make rafts out of their bodies. They trap air beneath the surface in bubbles and none of them die because they rotate out.
Yeah. Ants are cute. Ants are pretty interesting to watch even just from a video of the Best snt Channel, AntsCanada Yeah. Ants are cute. Just look at them go tell other ants about food and all those ants.
@Adventist I knew some of the ant facts they pepper through the movie, but the fact that Hank takes time to explain the benefits of each ant species should be enough for the audience to just accept what happens. Even if it's not quite how those ants would do it in real life, the movie has established that's what they can do in the MCU. Another one of those cases where Jeremy sins something because he wasn't paying attention.
I could have sworn that in the comics, he doesn't retain his mass, he controls his mass. So when he is small, he can be light enough to ride an ant or heavy enough to stand on a person's chest and hold them down.
@@napkong6355 if he does, then how can he ride an ant? Or stand on a gun held by a person without making them drop the gun because of the weight? Or carry around a tank in their pocket? Or go subatomic without causing a black hole? Or have strength when they go big? I'm pretty sure they screwed it up
Basically, the “controls his mass” explanation would have been more consistent with the events of the movie, but they went with an explanation that totally contradicted what they wanted to do. And we haven't even mentioned his blatantly inconsistent giant scene in Civil War, but that's okay, because it's a different movie that wasn't out at the time.
@@Radien it seems like they wanted to give an explanation that sounds more plausible and relevant to real-life physics but forgot that the explanation doesn't hold water with basically any events after that explanation was given
It looks like Jeremy and the team write these upon their first viewing. Like, they wrote the sin where "This movie doesn't explain why the ants obey Pimm!" only for the next bit to be "Oh, they did explain it. My bad!" sounds like something you'd do whilst watching the film first time around. But they kept it in anyway, despite the fact it doesn't sound at all professional in criticising the movie (if you wanted to take them as "critics"), nor was it really that funny (if you want to take them as "comedians/trolls/assholes")
Your ant math is pretty accurate but it'd be better to do a volume calculation for the ants, assuming each ant is 10mm³ in size and needs about the same volume of air and the same volume of structural support within the colony. 1,000,000 ants is 30,000,000mm³ or a colony about 30 litres in volume, to sustain a colony that size a few hundred m² of hunting territory is required or to supply the ants with food, either would be relatively easy for a rich man like Pim. While this is a large colony its not unfeasible. Also can we have just a this movie that movie montage from Everything Wrong With Justice League Dark In 13 Minutes Or Less it gets so bad he has to this movie that movie math
11:22 "Do you expect one to be sad that some fake ones died in a movie?" HEY! I'm still sad about Ant-hony and don't get me started about Ant-onio Banderas and all the other ones from the second movie.
I alwayd though that the implication is the exposure to Pym particles is what took a toll on Hank's mind and body, especially since it's a plotpoint in the movie that Cross goes crazy because his suit doesn't have the needed safety measures
9:04 also, Hank wasn’t talking about suit-related trauma. He was talking about the long-term side effects of Pym Particles. He can’t use the suit himself because he’s calculated that shrinking one more time will drive him insane like Cross/kill him.
11:13 That's fire ants they are specialist to survive floods. You can push them underwater and they are going to bind together and bring air bubbles with them. And yes this is a sin to you.
"Do you think Hank has that many ants, Jeremy?" really got me.
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Re 7:46 The largest known ant colony was estimated to contain 300+ million ants in an area of 3 sq km. Black carpenter ants can have colonies up to 100,000 ants. So it's not unreasonable to assume that Hank Pym has ant colonies which number in the tens of thousands. In which case getting a number as low as 247 is indeed incredibly unlikely.
The thing is, mass is different from weight. Mass is the density of the atoms while weight is the pull of gravity. If a heavy object were to get smaller whilst retaining its mass, it would have a much smaller pull on gravity making the 10 ton tank, a 10 oz tank. While giant man has the same mass as a regular sized man, the gravity on him would increase granting him the ability to crush objects and do heavy punches. For instance, take a balloon filled with hydrogen. The mass of the balloon and gas stay the same even as you put more in, however, it's weight changes depending on how much is in there.
@@starcycle4308 this is a response to all the comments saying that the movie gets the science wrong. This comment claims the science is right. @Andreww450 is making the distinction between mass and weight. While most people consider them interchangeable (because in 99% of cases outside of academic physics they are), they technically are not. Mass is how many atoms are in a given space. Weight is how hard atoms pull on each other because of gravity. That's why a person weighs 60% "less" on the moon, despite not actually changing that much. With that in mind, while antman can keep the same mass, his weight does change as he changes size, which is why he can carry a tank in his pocket or sit on an ant without crushing it. Andrew then uses a balloon as an example. Please note, I am not an expert, this is just my understanding of the original comment. I could be entirely wrong.
This movie plays pretty fast and loose with the Mass/Weight "rule" simply for the visual gags. Like the Thomas the Tank Engine crashing through Cassie's bedroom wall and into the street shouldn't have happened if the Thomas weighed the same as it did at its original size. Scott also wouldn't be able to stand on Luis' shoulder when he revealed to the group that he can shrink. A lot of the TinyBig visual gags wouldn't work if they followed the rule they set for the physics (When Cross gets stuck in the bug zapper, that thing should have been destroyed on impact if he had the same mass and weight as he usually does.) I don't know if there would be a difference between the functionality of the suit and the functionality of the Pym Particle Discs, which is what Hank and Hope use to enlarge the tank (Also presumably what shrunk the tank). Probably not, since the tech all uses the Pym Particle. Dunno. It does seem like a plot hole, but I'm also sure there's a justification for it beyond the visual gags.
In cinema sins’ defence, the “less conflict” sin was referring to conflicts in the movie. Since only Hank has that tech, he can basically end the movie with a few buttons.
6:28 is even more sciency than you might realize. If he DOESN'T change a variable, it still is. In fact, it might be even moreso because of that. Testing something once and it not working isn't a good result(Not because it didn't work, but because there's not enough data). You want to test something multiple times on a group to try to weed out the possibility of variables you couldn't already account for, perhaps a genetic predisposition to turning into goo when exposed to the Pym Particle or something. So you do tests with a LOT of test subjects(Like feeding a TON of rats a new food to see what happens) to account for the percentage likelihood of a failure versus a success.
11:12 does he not realize that certain ant species ACTUALLY do this and do not die........research Jeremy, it’ll do ya wonders Well now I watched the QnA and I feel bad
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Interesting, tbh I always interpreted what Hank meant by the suit taking a toll on him was that shrink and growing, changing the distance of your atoms constantly for years took some health toll on him as like radiation sickness that if he continues would get worse
Talking about density.... The Ant-Man plays with that concept so much and yet explains so little. Shrinking sometimes lets objects retain their weight and density (like in ant-man and the wasp when shrinking the lab) and in some cases it doesn't (like when growing inside the suit, in ant-man and the wasp and captain america: civil war). EDIT: Nevermind, you addressed it.
The "retain your mass" thing is all over the place. It applies when he punches someone, but stops being a thing when he does literally anything else (like riding the ants)
2:09 "Children, they last a while" Okay, that's pretty great. -1 meta sin 3:35 most places will still hire you if you have a prison record, the issue is if you lie and they find out later. +1 meta sin 6:30 Jeremy's point was that he hadn't altered the variables yet. As far as we are told he is still trying to use the same shrinking chemical. +1 meta sin 7:30 Hank has been running his ant experiments for many years, so it is highly unlikely that he would still be on number 247. +1 meta sin 12:22 He doesn't mean conflict in the greater sense, as in warfare. He just means that the protagonists should be able to sneak in every tool that they need to make the job easier. Maybe they just shrink down Darren Cross. +1 meta sin Meta sin total = 3 Sentence: you have to respond to this comment.
At 0:26 in Jeremy video he sins the guys with the bloody nose and asks where did it go but if you watched the full scene there's a part where they show him wiping the blood of his nose that's a sins in you missed
12:34 What if it's not a full-size tank that was shrunk, but a model tank that was enlarged? The expansion would make it less dense and fall more slowly; increasing the occupants' chances of surviving the fall. …Yeah; I'm pretty sure at this point that it was a model tank that Hank enlarged.
In the movie Weight and Mass are presented differently. We also see Scott standing on a gun in someone's hand and on Luis' shoulder not affecting them at all. This makes the fact that Hank was carrying around the tank the entire time less of a sin.
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explaining the tank, you can clearly see the key chain hanging off the back of the tanks, which would suggest that Hank actually enlarged a key chain of a tank, rather than shrunk a real full-size one.
Then it would be made of plastic and wouldn't really be a functional tank, would it? The movie actually suggests they shrunk a tank and put it in a keychain. The chain enlarged because it was attached to the tank
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The explanation that we got for why ant man is so strong when he's tiny is so incredibly flimsy. I prefer to think of it as having more to do with proportional scaling of muscle strength. This is where overall strength is related to the cross-sectional area of muscle and not muscle mass, but as it increases overall weight increases much faster. This is why smaller animals are proportionally stronger. This coupled with some increased density (but not 100% increase) seems a better explanation for ant-mans durability when tiny and why he's not like styrofoam when big, as well as the tank not weighting a ton when small.
3:03, If a microwave is flashing 12:00, it isn't actually showing the time. Yes, it's showing A time, but not THE time. For example, if we loose power, because the microwave no longer knows the actual time, it will just constantly flash twelve at all hours of the day until someone fixes it. So at any time other than 12:00, the microwave is not considered to be showing the time.
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For your second missed sin I would guess the suit allows him to keep his mass, but the tank was shrunk by one of those shrink star things which was shown to change the mass of an object, for example the giant ant, and Thomas the train being able to smash through a wall
“That would make you a small time felon I shouldn’t feel sorry for” man Jeremy can never get a career in politics and If he ever ends up in prison HE IS FUCKED. Also if ant man retains his mass when he shrinks he would never have been able to ride ants and for some reason no one ever really mentions this and if they are that strong then he should have just sent them to swarm the main villain and he would have been reduced to a red stain.
I am not sure if they say that a shrunk target maintains the same mass or if it can maintain the same mass. It seems clear that the Pym particle that allows the shrinking as well as the growth, can be used to manipulate size and mass. It is linked in some way to the Quantum realm where physics are different than in our own and allows either to maintain mass at a smaller size or put on mass in a larger size as well as shunt off mass when shrunken, allowing for much longer leaps, or holding much more massive weights in smaller sizes, thus the tank as a key chain. The thing that gets me is that the enlarged to full size Tank still has a key chain connected which is relative to its new size. This would be the sin. Why did he have to have a giant key chain made to connect to the tank? Just shrink the tank with its massively reduced weight and connect it to a normal key chain. It is demonstrated in the movie; such as jumping up on to the targets gun and then running along their arm. If they were at full weight they would just cause the man's arm to be pushed down and Ant-Man would fall to the floor. While leaping and landing, running on the gun he is at a tiny mass but then puts on full mass just before or at the time of punching the man in the face. This is also why in tiny form while trying to jump thru the key hole, he wans't punching holes in or breaking the door when he missed. It is also a reason for practicing this trick as he needed to regulate not only size but mass as well. These Pym particles and the manipulation of them are fantastic things.
12:26jay says that hank shouldn’t be able to carry around a tank if it retains its mass, but it clearly has a chain on it like toys. The actual sin should have been on the fact that the tank should be so not dense that there is no way that it could at all effect its surroundings like crashing though a wall.
Wait, do microwaves work differently outside of the us? Because I've never come across a microwave that didn't show the time. And why don't you get what he means by flashing 12:00? He isn't saying that's the time. He's saying when you don't set the time it shows 12:00 on and off again until you set it.
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Even if there's millions of billions of ants in Hank's backyard there is still a possibility that this specific ant has that specific number for this specific operation
The psychological issues Hank has are from the suit. The Pym particles affect brain chemistry, and the suit Scott uses is designed to protect against that.
So you havent seen The Incredible Hulk? Or Iron Man 2? Or Thor? Or Iron Man 3? Or Thor the Dark World? Or Avengers Age of Ultron? Or Black Panther? Or Ant Man and the Wasp? That's a lot of movies to miss out on but I suppose you've been doing yourself a favor Or The Amazing Spider-Man duoligy? Or literally any Fantastic 4 movie? Or the majority of X-Men movies? Wack
Also,key differences between AntMan and Falcon other than one can fly and the other cannot,one is black and the other is not,I mean if we’re just gonna base our comparison on the physical attributes of our heroes,which why are we even doing that at all,especially if you’ve actually even been paying attention to the movie at all,though I suppose that could be the point Jay is making here,which than my argument only strengthens his point,so ya know there we go.
“[...] or that’s the area of 14 football fields” I’m a little upset that I genuinely didn’t quite understand the size reference until that 😂 I don’t even like/understand football! (I’m American, for context)
3:04 welllllll all my clocks (microwave, oven, alarm), when an extended power outage occurs or when they get unplugged, the time is lost. When power is returned to it, it displays a flashing 12:00, no matter what time it is. It really just shows it had lost power and doesn’t have the time and needs reset. So it’s not the proper time, it’s just telling you it needs reset.... but yeah I guess.
1:42-ish Not to mention that by definition felonies can't lead to people being in jail for a couple months, anything less than a year is a misdemeanor. And is he saying that if Scott was only beat up in prison for a couple months instead of a few years he wouldn't feel sorry for him? Regardless of time prison sucks man.
11:19 umm what you shoulda said was "this is a real thing that ants do in real life, they have little hairs on their bodys that create and air barrier! no ants are dying in that scene"
Their deus ant machina sin was a missed sin. The problem isn’t that the ants are miraculously able to jam the hammer of the gun, which actually somewhat makes sense in-universe. The problem is that the gun the guy is holding doesn’t actually have a hammer (it’s fired by a striker, which is housed inside the slide, which ants wouldn’t be able to get into)
The physics of Ant Man have been a highly contested point for the last 2.5 years, and my personal opinion is that the Pym Particles do not alter your density, instead converting mass into energy and vice versa. They are able to store energy and convert it into mass when needed, which explains how tanks that have been shrunk to the size of a keychain do not still weigh tons, or how a fully grown human can stand on the barrel of a pistol without his weight pushing it to the floor.
10:45 Counter-argument to this counter-argument: Provided that we see Wanda Maximoff having her own room at the Avengers compound in Civil War, I think it's safe to assume she lives there. If somebody with supernatural abilities comes crashing into the place, it would make sense for her to join in, especially if Falcon has trouble dispatching the threat on his own. Hell, matter of fact, Scarlet Witch being a psychic would be the perfect pick to use against Scott, since once she grabbed a hold of him with her telekinetic powers he'd probably be screwed, Ant-Man tech or not.
SinsSins Sins: 1. (Possible missed sinsSin): Yes he does have to do that at some point in the mission: here is a clip of him doing that. (I haven't seen Antman in a while and can't remember if he does that during the mission or not). 2: The ants that build the raft exist in real life, and when they build a structure to float on water, they trap oxygen in the structure so that the whole unit can breathe. 3: The tank could be a fully functional miniature, maybe a larger model that was shrunk and then double grown, allowing a greater mass while still keeping the keychain able to be carried around.
3:31 Actually, it's generally a good idea to be honest about criminal sentences when applying for jobs. If you're honest, that shows some level of growth and ability to change for the better. If you lie, you might get the job for a bit, but they do background checks up the ass, there is no way your lie isn't gonna be discovered and you'll end up being fired. Sure, some places might not hire you because of your criminal record, but you're ensuring better stability in the places that DO hire you.
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I’ll never get over the fact that Jeremy says the ant raft is impractical but it’s a real thing and it looks weirder than the movie
I suppose you have experience for looking weird, with your Mr. Popo avatar.
That used to happen so many times in my pool
@@ConspiracyNuts what
@@morrezra I don't even remember saying that, but I guess they used to have an avatar of Mr. Popo, who is a Dragon Ball character that resembles blackface. It's amazing how easily a comment can age like milk.
1:17 Jeremy also implies that he would feel MORE sorry for a criminal mastermind or serial killer rather than a "small-time felon" whose jail sentence was much shorter.
I wish they had done a better job in the movie of explaining why Scott was in prison. There's the small news article about the events the prequel comic covers. Basically, Scott found evidence that the company he worked for was scamming their customers. I think it was an insurance company. So, he used his skills to transfer company funds to all those people; but he was also caught since corporate espionage is still a crime. One of the reasons he did it was because he wanted to be able to look his daughter in the face while teaching her to always do the right thing.
The movie explains that Bryan
@@bryanwoods3373 did you miss the scene where luis tells that story? Cause he basically says the same you just said almost word for word.
@@THEPELADOMASTER Did you miss the part where I said a better job? It's a few quick lines that summarize the comic but doesn't explain the nuance.
@@bryanwoods3373 lol "they should explain this better. Basically, what happened was *explains it exactly like in the movie*
Then what was the point of you explaining it if you're not gonna really add anything that I don't already know from watching the movie?
The ant floatation thing is an actual thing they do in nature and they don’t die from it.
It’s okay you didn’t know that, it is a random I know.
Ants forming structures out of the bodies of their colonies is one of the coolest things to happen in the natural world. It is definitely a real thing.
Silver Comics I’m pretty sure the fire ant is the only one to do that.
Missed missed sin. Yes, due to surface tension they don't drown even when they're on the bottom of the floating lump of ants, and they also rotate so the ones on the bottom aren't always the same ones.
Yeah I’ve seen ants do it in my pool. There’s been a couple times where there’s this little raft of ants just floating around.
They trap air bubbles underneath the ant raft to prevent them from drowning
11:10 is probably one of the most scientifically correct parts of this movie. Because some types of ants actually can make rafts out of their bodies. They trap air beneath the surface in bubbles and none of them die because they rotate out.
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Ants are so fucking cool.
Yeah. Ants are cute.
Ants are pretty interesting to watch even just from a video of the Best snt Channel, AntsCanada
Yeah. Ants are cute. Just look at them go tell other ants about food and all those ants.
@Adventist I knew some of the ant facts they pepper through the movie, but the fact that Hank takes time to explain the benefits of each ant species should be enough for the audience to just accept what happens. Even if it's not quite how those ants would do it in real life, the movie has established that's what they can do in the MCU. Another one of those cases where Jeremy sins something because he wasn't paying attention.
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@@blue9139 i agree as an insectaphobe they are definitely one of the more cute bugs up close
"How would someone the size of an ant be an advantage" jeremy do you, like, know what a bullet is
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....well thanks for clearing that up. 😂 I didn’t know until I saw this comment.
ive only been here a few days but i was wondering why everyone was saying that XD
WOW
I did not know that until now.
I thought it was disgust too.
Me too
i like how you say that children last a while like they're a loaf of bread lol
Bread absolutely does not last a while if you live in a humid climate
But he didn't compare children to a loaf of bread.
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@@redforest9269 "last a while" is a phrase that's used when talking about food sometimes
I mean babies have the base intelligence of a loaf of bread
@@SpagettiSpeltWrong plus being roughly the same size and mostly made of carbon. Basically the same thing.
I could have sworn that in the comics, he doesn't retain his mass, he controls his mass. So when he is small, he can be light enough to ride an ant or heavy enough to stand on a person's chest and hold them down.
Craig Goetsch you know they change things for movies, you are correct but movie ant-man retains his mass when he’s small
I don't think that's it in the mcu but it should be cause as it is it make absolutely no sense
@@napkong6355 if he does, then how can he ride an ant? Or stand on a gun held by a person without making them drop the gun because of the weight? Or carry around a tank in their pocket? Or go subatomic without causing a black hole? Or have strength when they go big?
I'm pretty sure they screwed it up
Basically, the “controls his mass” explanation would have been more consistent with the events of the movie, but they went with an explanation that totally contradicted what they wanted to do.
And we haven't even mentioned his blatantly inconsistent giant scene in Civil War, but that's okay, because it's a different movie that wasn't out at the time.
@@Radien it seems like they wanted to give an explanation that sounds more plausible and relevant to real-life physics but forgot that the explanation doesn't hold water with basically any events after that explanation was given
"Children. They last a while"
-Jay Exci
It looks like Jeremy and the team write these upon their first viewing. Like, they wrote the sin where "This movie doesn't explain why the ants obey Pimm!" only for the next bit to be "Oh, they did explain it. My bad!" sounds like something you'd do whilst watching the film first time around. But they kept it in anyway, despite the fact it doesn't sound at all professional in criticising the movie (if you wanted to take them as "critics"), nor was it really that funny (if you want to take them as "comedians/trolls/assholes")
Your ant math is pretty accurate but it'd be better to do a volume calculation for the ants, assuming each ant is 10mm³ in size and needs about the same volume of air and the same volume of structural support within the colony. 1,000,000 ants is 30,000,000mm³ or a colony about 30 litres in volume, to sustain a colony that size a few hundred m² of hunting territory is required or to supply the ants with food, either would be relatively easy for a rich man like Pim. While this is a large colony its not unfeasible.
Also can we have just a this movie that movie montage from Everything Wrong With Justice League Dark In 13 Minutes Or Less it gets so bad he has to this movie that movie math
I may be a math nerd XD thanks for the
Man, get that stuff back over to Because Science.
11:15 I heard somewhere that when ants do that they're small enough to keep air bubbles within the group, meaning most of the ants won't die.
11:22 "Do you expect one to be sad that some fake ones died in a movie?"
HEY! I'm still sad about Ant-hony and don't get me started about Ant-onio Banderas and all the other ones from the second movie.
Ren Amamiya wait what?spoilers!😱
Gracekim1 dude the movie's been out for weeks now.
Ren Amamiya Not in Europe. It's not out until the 2nd of August here.
Also, when fire ants make a raft, they don't actually break the surface tension of the water, so they can still breathe.
amthony actually wouldnt jabe died in real life bechasee the wind of the bullet would move him out of the way
I alwayd though that the implication is the exposure to Pym particles is what took a toll on Hank's mind and body, especially since it's a plotpoint in the movie that Cross goes crazy because his suit doesn't have the needed safety measures
Q&A: how tired are you of being corrected about the ant floatation thing already?
RenaDeles There's something on every single vid that at least twenty people tell him. You'd think they might try glancing at the comments first...
9:04 also, Hank wasn’t talking about suit-related trauma. He was talking about the long-term side effects of Pym Particles. He can’t use the suit himself because he’s calculated that shrinking one more time will drive him insane like Cross/kill him.
11:13 That's fire ants they are specialist to survive floods.
You can push them underwater and they are going to bind together and bring air bubbles with them.
And yes this is a sin to you.
"Do you think Hank has that many ants, Jeremy?" really got me.
Re 7:46
The largest known ant colony was estimated to contain 300+ million ants in an area of 3 sq km. Black carpenter ants can have colonies up to 100,000 ants. So it's not unreasonable to assume that Hank Pym has ant colonies which number in the tens of thousands. In which case getting a number as low as 247 is indeed incredibly unlikely.
"children. They actually last a while" I laughed so hard & also this is my new favorite way to say "everybody dies" 🤣
The thing is, mass is different from weight. Mass is the density of the atoms while weight is the pull of gravity. If a heavy object were to get smaller whilst retaining its mass, it would have a much smaller pull on gravity making the 10 ton tank, a 10 oz tank. While giant man has the same mass as a regular sized man, the gravity on him would increase granting him the ability to crush objects and do heavy punches. For instance, take a balloon filled with hydrogen. The mass of the balloon and gas stay the same even as you put more in, however, it's weight changes depending on how much is in there.
I'm a dingbat and can't absorb blocks of text could someone explain this simply and/or short please
@@starcycle4308 this is a response to all the comments saying that the movie gets the science wrong. This comment claims the science is right.
@Andreww450 is making the distinction between mass and weight. While most people consider them interchangeable (because in 99% of cases outside of academic physics they are), they technically are not.
Mass is how many atoms are in a given space. Weight is how hard atoms pull on each other because of gravity. That's why a person weighs 60% "less" on the moon, despite not actually changing that much.
With that in mind, while antman can keep the same mass, his weight does change as he changes size, which is why he can carry a tank in his pocket or sit on an ant without crushing it.
Andrew then uses a balloon as an example.
Please note, I am not an expert, this is just my understanding of the original comment. I could be entirely wrong.
@@angusperson4222 Oh!!! Thank you so much!
I like how Jeremy doesn’t even consider a year, just about 5 months. Edit: when training with hope he says he was in prison for 3 years.
Missed sin, Ant-Man apparently maintains his weight but can fly on the back of an ant
This movie plays pretty fast and loose with the Mass/Weight "rule" simply for the visual gags. Like the Thomas the Tank Engine crashing through Cassie's bedroom wall and into the street shouldn't have happened if the Thomas weighed the same as it did at its original size. Scott also wouldn't be able to stand on Luis' shoulder when he revealed to the group that he can shrink. A lot of the TinyBig visual gags wouldn't work if they followed the rule they set for the physics (When Cross gets stuck in the bug zapper, that thing should have been destroyed on impact if he had the same mass and weight as he usually does.) I don't know if there would be a difference between the functionality of the suit and the functionality of the Pym Particle Discs, which is what Hank and Hope use to enlarge the tank (Also presumably what shrunk the tank). Probably not, since the tech all uses the Pym Particle. Dunno. It does seem like a plot hole, but I'm also sure there's a justification for it beyond the visual gags.
I’m sorry sir but this TH-cam channel has a high level of quality and as such you not having a larger number of subscribers is a sin.
Agreed
Why are you sorry for that
@@606dancohes apologizing for giving him a sin
In cinema sins’ defence, the “less conflict” sin was referring to conflicts in the movie. Since only Hank has that tech, he can basically end the movie with a few buttons.
6:28 is even more sciency than you might realize. If he DOESN'T change a variable, it still is. In fact, it might be even moreso because of that. Testing something once and it not working isn't a good result(Not because it didn't work, but because there's not enough data). You want to test something multiple times on a group to try to weed out the possibility of variables you couldn't already account for, perhaps a genetic predisposition to turning into goo when exposed to the Pym Particle or something. So you do tests with a LOT of test subjects(Like feeding a TON of rats a new food to see what happens) to account for the percentage likelihood of a failure versus a success.
"The vague concept of crime"
Q&A: Have you ever considered making the videos longer? Like, going in depth on most of the sins?
11:16 also, that species of ant in real life can make tiny bubble helmets, I’m pretty sure. They’re fine.
I just love when Jay just sounds so fucking done with Jeremy
11:12 does he not realize that certain ant species ACTUALLY do this and do not die........research Jeremy, it’ll do ya wonders
Well now I watched the QnA and I feel bad
what QnA could you leave a link
3:03 By "flashing 12:00" Jeremy probably means "when the microwave doesn't know what time it is so it just shows 12:00 flashing."
Q&A; What are some Cinema Sins videos you actually like?
Q&A question:Have you ever considered making merch (for any of your channels) if so what would be (shirts,pins,posters,lama related toys ect)
PS: I’m a big fan of your channels and hope you keep making amazing content
This channel is a rip off.
Elias Crooker of what?
Interesting, tbh I always interpreted what Hank meant by the suit taking a toll on him was that shrink and growing, changing the distance of your atoms constantly for years took some health toll on him as like radiation sickness that if he continues would get worse
Talking about density.... The Ant-Man plays with that concept so much and yet explains so little. Shrinking sometimes lets objects retain their weight and density (like in ant-man and the wasp when shrinking the lab) and in some cases it doesn't (like when growing inside the suit, in ant-man and the wasp and captain america: civil war).
EDIT: Nevermind, you addressed it.
The "retain your mass" thing is all over the place. It applies when he punches someone, but stops being a thing when he does literally anything else (like riding the ants)
2:09 "Children, they last a while" Okay, that's pretty great. -1 meta sin
3:35 most places will still hire you if you have a prison record, the issue is if you lie and they find out later. +1 meta sin
6:30 Jeremy's point was that he hadn't altered the variables yet. As far as we are told he is still trying to use the same shrinking chemical. +1 meta sin
7:30 Hank has been running his ant experiments for many years, so it is highly unlikely that he would still be on number 247. +1 meta sin
12:22 He doesn't mean conflict in the greater sense, as in warfare. He just means that the protagonists should be able to sneak in every tool that they need to make the job easier. Maybe they just shrink down Darren Cross. +1 meta sin
Meta sin total = 3
Sentence: you have to respond to this comment.
Ants form rafts like that I. Real life. They rarely suffer casualties
Wow
At 0:26 in Jeremy video he sins the guys with the bloody nose and asks where did it go but if you watched the full scene there's a part where they show him wiping the blood of his nose that's a sins in you missed
11:51 ANTS We must be under attack!
10:55 i think their sin actually kinda right, why wouldn’t falcon call for backup when someone is trying to break into the avengers hq
Don’t forget when Ant-man shrinks he can lift 10 times his own Weight like a ant you also forgot to sin Jeremy for sining the death of Antthony
12:34 What if it's not a full-size tank that was shrunk, but a model tank that was enlarged? The expansion would make it less dense and fall more slowly; increasing the occupants' chances of surviving the fall. …Yeah; I'm pretty sure at this point that it was a model tank that Hank enlarged.
Sin counter doesn’t go up at 8:28
Ding.
In the movie Weight and Mass are presented differently. We also see Scott standing on a gun in someone's hand and on Luis' shoulder not affecting them at all. This makes the fact that Hank was carrying around the tank the entire time less of a sin.
Bird guy looks like a bird and ant guy looks like an ant
My day was great thanks for asking. For the Sunday q&a I have two questions. 1) what’s the most annoying thing American people say to you when they find out you’re british? (I know they ask you to say banana but what else?) and 2) do you think I could ever be as cool as Tierry, Knobetty, or Drew?
explaining the tank, you can clearly see the key chain hanging off the back of the tanks, which would suggest that Hank actually enlarged a key chain of a tank, rather than shrunk a real full-size one.
Then it would be made of plastic and wouldn't really be a functional tank, would it?
The movie actually suggests they shrunk a tank and put it in a keychain. The chain enlarged because it was attached to the tank
12:10 not only that, but in the scene in question he reaches for charges and realizes he doesn’t have any
Do murder on the orient express
Could you please do Unfriended? It seemed pretty flawed so I would like to see what you thought!
p.s Great video c; I am totally in love with your content (again (again (again)))
if a microwave is flashing 12:00 because it hasn't checked what's the time yet, it's not displaying the time
“Tiny Man”
The explanation that we got for why ant man is so strong when he's tiny is so incredibly flimsy. I prefer to think of it as having more to do with proportional scaling of muscle strength. This is where overall strength is related to the cross-sectional area of muscle and not muscle mass, but as it increases overall weight increases much faster. This is why smaller animals are proportionally stronger. This coupled with some increased density (but not 100% increase) seems a better explanation for ant-mans durability when tiny and why he's not like styrofoam when big, as well as the tank not weighting a ton when small.
alright so i love cinemasins but i laugh my ass off when you burn jeremy personally hahah love it.
11:12 plus ants can hold their breath for a really long time
Yeah, ants do this all the time in real life
3:03, If a microwave is flashing 12:00, it isn't actually showing the time. Yes, it's showing A time, but not THE time. For example, if we loose power, because the microwave no longer knows the actual time, it will just constantly flash twelve at all hours of the day until someone fixes it. So at any time other than 12:00, the microwave is not considered to be showing the time.
“Children: they last a while.”
Omg yes, I just found your channel and I'm loving it! Turns out I'm not the only one who does this every time I watch a CinemaSins video xD
Hope you grow big dude
For your second missed sin I would guess the suit allows him to keep his mass, but the tank was shrunk by one of those shrink star things which was shown to change the mass of an object, for example the giant ant, and Thomas the train being able to smash through a wall
Fun fact about sin 101
Most ant species can live underwater for about twenty-four hours. This ants weren’t dying.
My microwave flashes 12:00 when there was a power outage and keeps doing that until you set the time.
“That would make you a small time felon I shouldn’t feel sorry for” man Jeremy can never get a career in politics and If he ever ends up in prison HE IS FUCKED. Also if ant man retains his mass when he shrinks he would never have been able to ride ants and for some reason no one ever really mentions this and if they are that strong then he should have just sent them to swarm the main villain and he would have been reduced to a red stain.
I am not sure if they say that a shrunk target maintains the same mass or if it can maintain the same mass. It seems clear that the Pym particle that allows the shrinking as well as the growth, can be used to manipulate size and mass. It is linked in some way to the Quantum realm where physics are different than in our own and allows either to maintain mass at a smaller size or put on mass in a larger size as well as shunt off mass when shrunken, allowing for much longer leaps, or holding much more massive weights in smaller sizes, thus the tank as a key chain. The thing that gets me is that the enlarged to full size Tank still has a key chain connected which is relative to its new size. This would be the sin. Why did he have to have a giant key chain made to connect to the tank? Just shrink the tank with its massively reduced weight and connect it to a normal key chain.
It is demonstrated in the movie; such as jumping up on to the targets gun and then running along their arm. If they were at full weight they would just cause the man's arm to be pushed down and Ant-Man would fall to the floor. While leaping and landing, running on the gun he is at a tiny mass but then puts on full mass just before or at the time of punching the man in the face. This is also why in tiny form while trying to jump thru the key hole, he wans't punching holes in or breaking the door when he missed. It is also a reason for practicing this trick as he needed to regulate not only size but mass as well.
These Pym particles and the manipulation of them are fantastic things.
12:26jay says that hank shouldn’t be able to carry around a tank if it retains its mass, but it clearly has a chain on it like toys. The actual sin should have been on the fact that the tank should be so not dense that there is no way that it could at all effect its surroundings like crashing though a wall.
I still don't get how this movie and it's sequel have better de-aging tech than every movie with that tech to have come out after them.
For your edification. Two other movies that involve shrinking: Innerspace, and Fantastic Voyage.
Wait, do microwaves work differently outside of the us? Because I've never come across a microwave that didn't show the time. And why don't you get what he means by flashing 12:00? He isn't saying that's the time. He's saying when you don't set the time it shows 12:00 on and off again until you set it.
Qna: do u know i love ur channel? I watch cinamasins and u were suggested and u giving ur opinion on cinamasins is such a great thing to do. Well i asked my question, bye now.
On the shrinking through the doorhole, I the comics, Hank Pym actually uses it a lot, and also spent a lot of time training with it
Missed sin sin: None of those ants would be drowning. That's a real thing that ants do all the time.
Even if there's millions of billions of ants in Hank's backyard there is still a possibility that this specific ant has that specific number for this specific operation
The psychological issues Hank has are from the suit. The Pym particles affect brain chemistry, and the suit Scott uses is designed to protect against that.
I’m a simple man I see a marvel movie film I like it before it even starts
Ultra Magnus me: reads this comment about 10 seconds into the video; scrolls up to like the video; realises I already liked it?
God bless you man
Then you have not watched Fan4stic.
So you havent seen The Incredible Hulk? Or Iron Man 2? Or Thor? Or Iron Man 3? Or Thor the Dark World? Or Avengers Age of Ultron? Or Black Panther? Or Ant Man and the Wasp? That's a lot of movies to miss out on but I suppose you've been doing yourself a favor
Or The Amazing Spider-Man duoligy? Or literally any Fantastic 4 movie? Or the majority of X-Men movies?
Wack
@TheHardcore Gamer the point is that they're all garbage movies except for maybe ant-man and the wasp
Also,key differences between AntMan and Falcon other than one can fly and the other cannot,one is black and the other is not,I mean if we’re just gonna base our comparison on the physical attributes of our heroes,which why are we even doing that at all,especially if you’ve actually even been paying attention to the movie at all,though I suppose that could be the point Jay is making here,which than my argument only strengthens his point,so ya know there we go.
“[...] or that’s the area of 14 football fields” I’m a little upset that I genuinely didn’t quite understand the size reference until that 😂 I don’t even like/understand football! (I’m American, for context)
3:04 welllllll all my clocks (microwave, oven, alarm), when an extended power outage occurs or when they get unplugged, the time is lost. When power is returned to it, it displays a flashing 12:00, no matter what time it is. It really just shows it had lost power and doesn’t have the time and needs reset. So it’s not the proper time, it’s just telling you it needs reset.... but yeah I guess.
Great job on this one, Jay!
1:42-ish Not to mention that by definition felonies can't lead to people being in jail for a couple months, anything less than a year is a misdemeanor. And is he saying that if Scott was only beat up in prison for a couple months instead of a few years he wouldn't feel sorry for him? Regardless of time prison sucks man.
11:19 umm what you shoulda said was "this is a real thing that ants do in real life, they have little hairs on their bodys that create and air barrier! no ants are dying in that scene"
Their deus ant machina sin was a missed sin. The problem isn’t that the ants are miraculously able to jam the hammer of the gun, which actually somewhat makes sense in-universe. The problem is that the gun the guy is holding doesn’t actually have a hammer (it’s fired by a striker, which is housed inside the slide, which ants wouldn’t be able to get into)
The physics of Ant Man have been a highly contested point for the last 2.5 years, and my personal opinion is that the Pym Particles do not alter your density, instead converting mass into energy and vice versa. They are able to store energy and convert it into mass when needed, which explains how tanks that have been shrunk to the size of a keychain do not still weigh tons, or how a fully grown human can stand on the barrel of a pistol without his weight pushing it to the floor.
10:45 Counter-argument to this counter-argument: Provided that we see Wanda Maximoff having her own room at the Avengers compound in Civil War, I think it's safe to assume she lives there. If somebody with supernatural abilities comes crashing into the place, it would make sense for her to join in, especially if Falcon has trouble dispatching the threat on his own. Hell, matter of fact, Scarlet Witch being a psychic would be the perfect pick to use against Scott, since once she grabbed a hold of him with her telekinetic powers he'd probably be screwed, Ant-Man tech or not.
Thank you for this, especially with the sequel coming soon in the UK😉
7:36 AntsCanada would like a word with you.
The ant controlling thing is pretty realistic. Scientists were able to control roaches in a similar manner
And ants are easier
11:21 actually there are ants irl that form a sort of raft. The way they do this is by continuously switching out the bottom ants with the top ants
0:03
Since when is he in the internet?! (only ninjago fans will get this joke)
3:00 my microwave isn’t even able to show time
Haha you make so much sense with your views. That is fantastic. Thank you so much great Jay.
Do everything wrong with minions, he called the clock tower big ben.
Jay is the first person I’ve seen to point out the Mass issue… Thank you
SinsSins Sins:
1. (Possible missed sinsSin): Yes he does have to do that at some point in the mission: here is a clip of him doing that. (I haven't seen Antman in a while and can't remember if he does that during the mission or not).
2: The ants that build the raft exist in real life, and when they build a structure to float on water, they trap oxygen in the structure so that the whole unit can breathe.
3: The tank could be a fully functional miniature, maybe a larger model that was shrunk and then double grown, allowing a greater mass while still keeping the keychain able to be carried around.
3:31 Actually, it's generally a good idea to be honest about criminal sentences when applying for jobs. If you're honest, that shows some level of growth and ability to change for the better. If you lie, you might get the job for a bit, but they do background checks up the ass, there is no way your lie isn't gonna be discovered and you'll end up being fired.
Sure, some places might not hire you because of your criminal record, but you're ensuring better stability in the places that DO hire you.
#QnA what else have you put googly eyes on?
Hank Pym prequel movie is something of my dreams
*"Baskin Robbins, always finds out."*
My favourite part of this movie is the explanation scene and when I geeked out about Janet😆