I know its a clickbaity title...but still, I find it difficult to classify the arrogant Tavington as a fool, since he also cut down half his male heirs. Fools usually dont go successfully halving the things you love.
*spoiler alert* I agree....I remember watching this movie in the theaters when it was out and the entire crowd cheered when Mel Gibson killed Tavington at the end.
His wife made him " a gentle man ". Do I need to remind you who and what he was before he met his lady love? Why are the Tavingtons of this world are always pissing off and turning into blood enemies all the wrong people???
Jason Isaacs played a nice guy in a couple of West Wing episodes and he is such a good actor I was able to like him in that role, because his characters were so vile and scary in this role and Harry Potter . Great actor.
Truer words have never been spoken, such a cliche plagiarized statement from me. But people have no idea of the reckoning that can be had by a group of men with nothing to lose and everything to stand for. Righteous will always prevail because our Good Lord says so!
To this day, my favorite movie villain. He was cruel, a snob, but was an absolute badass, would jump off his horse and go right into a fight. I remember being in a crowded theater when you thought he was dead the first time, the whole place erupted. When it turned out he wasn't, the boos and popcorn flying around was crazy. Jason Isaacs played that character so damn good.
He's not a coward- he's recklessly brave sometimes. But him not even trying to hear Martin like he's not a rich landowner who could be useful if he became a Loyalist but a high school janitor of some sort- what the hell is this??? It's still Martin's land! It's not like he was harboring spies- he gave shelter and care to the wounded Reb soldiers! It's like Martin's land is already Tavington's! God, he's so " West Ukrainian " it's nauseating!
He wasn't a badass. He was a dragoon which meant he was only willing to engage from a major advantage. He abused his power at all times. He was cruel all for the sake of his own gain and he broke all rules whenever possible. He was entirely loathsome.
@@tatianalyulkin410 Agreed with your sentiment until the Ukraine comment and I realized how ignorant you are. It's a shame someone with such potential can be so blatantly braindead
Even his superiors were disgusted by his tactics until they got completely embarrassed then they turned a blind eye to what he did to get Gibsons character and his men eliminated
Thought he was a Lieutenant but then,I never could figure out British rank devices,except for the Navy because the US Navy's stripes match the Royal Navy's.
Good soldiers think for themselves & understand how to fail to follow an order by accepting it with a hearty "Aye,Aye Sir" & then not carrying it out. Incompetence is very difficult to prove in a Court Martial where the defendant can say "Honest,Sir,I was going to do it.,I was just covered up in other tasks so I put it on the to be done later list..."@@notabannedaccount8362
This reminds me of real life examples of German and Japanese soldiers... Even after carrying out the order some did there best to make sure that the bodies get recovered with their name...
there is no man more dangerous than the one that just wanted to be left alone with his family. the people United will never be defeated. God bless America
The field hands explain to the Red Coats that they aren’t slaves, they just live on Martan’s land because it’s easier for them to make a living than to pack up and go elsewhere. The nanny likely was a second mother to those kids, having helped raised many of them from birth. She’s naturally protective of them.
In Lucious Malfoy’s defense, that was a stupid move by the kid, what did he expect 😆I’m just going to overpower 2 men as a 12 year old, in your dream kid.
Well, yeah- they kind of DO! They expect terror, trauma, instant defeat- not you living on rage for 10 years. The Tavingtons of this world are not very smart, are they?
This is still one of the best battle scenes ever written! A man and his 2 pre-teen boys face off against a full regiment of soldiers to save his other son and survive!
Regular colonists had the guts and was even willing to put their lives on the line to fight a corrupt government an ocean away. We need to do the same thing since a similar government is on the same continent.
It is truly astounding how Jason Isaacs "went there" with this character. You didn't know if you crossed paths with him if he was going to either shoot you or slit your throat, Colonel Tavington, one of the scariest screen villains of all time. He showed zero remorse.
@@jayvee8502 Guys, he had no point of reference. His father was a rich landowner- he wasn't used to Ben being abused by a Tavington- some stupid Cossack! In a blink of an eye his clan lost everything- and he was way too young to deal with it.
You have no idea of what a civil war is, do you? Yes, all that talk about being a Reb- yet Ben's children were brought up as English gentlemen and expected to be treated as such. They had no point of reference as to how to deal with someone like Tavington.
the movies Tavington was based on the real atrocities of Banastre Tarleton who actually killed civilians in both New Kent County and Albemarle.County Virginia .. Tarleton burned churches in Charlottesville, Virginia and South Carolina … Washington let British soldiers including Tarleton return to England to prove to the world that America was a civilized nation … I personally would have given the Brits “no quarter “ !!!
Tartleton was a single commander though as far as im aware he did not burn any churches though as far as im aware. Its likely he'd have destoryed civillian property as both sides would of done including george washington who attempted to raise new york to the ground once the british captured it after the battle of long island. it also didn't stop americans slaughtering pacifist christian tribes who declared neutrality durring the war. Both sides in this war were just as bad as the other.
Back in the day when your father tell you to do something or gives you a gun (in this case) and you just stand up ready to take orders and direction from him
As a father, I just wished Mel Gibsons character didnt let Thomas die with the last things he heard being "Stupid boy". Extra heart wrenching to me as a new daddy to baby boys...damn oxytocin making my eyes water 🥲
Having fought in war before he knew that wasn't the time to take his revenge. At that moment he was outnumbered . He had to think about the rest of his family and get Gabriel back before he, too, was murdered. Benjamin knew he needed to choose the time, place, and manner of his revenge
I am not a father, but if things go like they seem to be going I will have a child with a girl who I consider was beyond my wildest dreams. I didn’t know I could like so much about a person. I am so grateful to be with her and looking forward to the future. But man, even though right now I don’t have a child, if someone did that to my child. There is literally nothing that’s out of bounds for the person who did that. I would do anything. And that’s genuinely a scary person to leave alive. Also I do love how at 4:05, the British officer that carried out his orders knew how horrific what he did is, a boat load of suumariale executions. was probably ashamed and was sad that these children witnessed it. He’s not proud at all, he’s ashamed.
When people ask if the 2nd amendment is outdated or needs more regulation…this is why it’s by far the most important amendment. People are naive and think we live in a world where governments won’t act like this anymore.
Maynmar is the most modern example. The military literally overthrew the democratic government, and when the people went to the streets to protest, the soldiers were ordered to shoot them. Many were killed, but the backlash has been insane. The rebel groups, which were very fringe and had little support, gained vastly in manpower and influence. As of to date, they’ve taken over somewhere between a quarter to a third of the country.
It's worse than that. It's not that they think their government won't act like this, it's that they think, if the time comes, their government will protect them.
Redcoat awoke the demon that day! Benjamin had built a peaceful life for himself and his family, then this happens. "You cannot truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of violence you're not peaceful, you're harmless."
For a foolish rant, one of the greatest cinematic talents, in terms of acting and directing was cancelled. I would take Mel any day over Roman Polanski or Woody Allen
Haha look up the war of 1812 and how the US sued for peace. Didn’t all go how the US history books stated. Once Britain finished off Napoleon and sent experienced troops across the Atlantic the US very quickly realised they had a problem.
Because 90% of the UK forces in the US during the war of independence were US born and were responsible for the vast majority of the attrocities (not to say the British born didn't commit their fair share, everyone did). The actual UK military basically didn't take part, they were busy in Europe with the French and Dutch. Be glad of it, had the UK sent an actual army it would have been a 1 sided affair as they could absorb more casulties in 1 battle than occured in the entire war and still be an effective fighting force.
Hi everyone! What grade (out of 10) would you give this video?
10/10
I know its a clickbaity title...but still, I find it difficult to classify the arrogant Tavington as a fool, since he also cut down half his male heirs. Fools usually dont go successfully halving the things you love.
0/10
@@stevenashley7651 And you upvoted your own comment? How cute:D
10
The people that play the role so well that you legitimately hate the character, are the best actors.
You said it. I can think of many.
Tavington is this to a T
*spoiler alert* I agree....I remember watching this movie in the theaters when it was out and the entire crowd cheered when Mel Gibson killed Tavington at the end.
Yes. The villain is usually the nicest or most likable person in real life.
@@mlyn7182had to give a reason to officially get revenge
"Beware the rage of a gentle man."
His wife made him " a gentle man ". Do I need to remind you who and what he was before he met his lady love? Why are the Tavingtons of this world are always pissing off and turning into blood enemies all the wrong people???
“Good men don’t needs rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many.”
@@keeperodinson3306 Exactly so.
Gotta admit, both Mel Gibson and Jason Issacs were fantastic in this movie.
Jason Issacs maybe the baddest villan of all time.
Jason Isaacs played a nice guy in a couple of West Wing episodes and he is such a good actor I was able to like him in that role, because his characters were so vile and scary in this role and Harry Potter . Great actor.
Isaacs is so underrated.
Excellent in this and Harry Potter
@@cz2165
Who Did He Play in Harry Potter?
A man who has lost everything is free to do anything. Be fearful of those with nothing to lose
And be especially fearful if you were the one who took it from them.
Hell, I should say so!
The realist shyt I read all day.
Truer words have never been spoken, such a cliche plagiarized statement from me. But people have no idea of the reckoning that can be had by a group of men with nothing to lose and everything to stand for. Righteous will always prevail because our Good Lord says so!
he’s got like 6 more kids he could lose…he actually does lose one more
To this day, my favorite movie villain. He was cruel, a snob, but was an absolute badass, would jump off his horse and go right into a fight. I remember being in a crowded theater when you thought he was dead the first time, the whole place erupted. When it turned out he wasn't, the boos and popcorn flying around was crazy. Jason Isaacs played that character so damn good.
He's not a coward- he's recklessly brave sometimes. But him not even trying to hear Martin like he's not a rich landowner who could be useful if he became a Loyalist but a high school janitor of some sort- what the hell is this??? It's still Martin's land! It's not like he was harboring spies- he gave shelter and care to the wounded Reb soldiers! It's like Martin's land is already Tavington's! God, he's so " West Ukrainian " it's nauseating!
He wasn't a badass. He was a dragoon which meant he was only willing to engage from a major advantage. He abused his power at all times. He was cruel all for the sake of his own gain and he broke all rules whenever possible. He was entirely loathsome.
@@tatianalyulkin410 Agreed with your sentiment until the Ukraine comment and I realized how ignorant you are. It's a shame someone with such potential can be so blatantly braindead
Every reluctant hero has that moment when they realize they can’t stand by the wayside any longer; this was that moment!
Call to action!
The most Rhetorical statements come from the smallest of minds
@@aaronbeardsley3261not even gonna bother arguing with you as you probably have an argument for everything.
@@mudfan061 so why speak in the first place 🤔
@@aaronbeardsley3261 The most nonsensical statements come from nameless muppets on the internet.
Always fun when the bad guy seals his own fate in what he believes is a moment of glory
Even his superiors were disgusted by his tactics until they got completely embarrassed then they turned a blind eye to what he did to get Gibsons character and his men eliminated
Satanyahoo
And he got countless of his own men killed in consequence
Fine. I'll rewatch The Patriot
🤣
The 1000th time! 😇
Agreed, strongly!
To all patriots.....SALUTE!🇺🇲
Traitors you mean, but atleast you have sleep joe at the end of the day 🙃
May every man have such clarity when faced with such disparity against his own .
Now i wanna watch the whole movie again :D
10/10
Me too
Right 😆
Just about to 😅😅😅
4:07 The Captain Didn't Want to Kill The Wounded in this Scene He Was going By The Rules But Tavenington Told him to Do it Sadly.
Thought he was a Lieutenant but then,I never could figure out British rank devices,except for the Navy because the US Navy's stripes match the Royal Navy's.
@@doughessonGood soldiers follow orders.
Good soldiers think for themselves & understand how to fail to follow an order by accepting it with a hearty "Aye,Aye Sir" & then not carrying it out.
Incompetence is very difficult to prove in a Court Martial where the defendant can say "Honest,Sir,I was going to do it.,I was just covered up in other tasks so I put it on the to be done later list..."@@notabannedaccount8362
@@notabannedaccount8362Good solders fight back against unlawful orders.
This reminds me of real life examples of German and Japanese soldiers... Even after carrying out the order some did there best to make sure that the bodies get recovered with their name...
The directly after this when he and his sons ambush the platoon transporting heath ledger goes so hard.
The little boys did so well. Already real men.
@@DivineLogos yeah, that was a pretty tall order for them at that age. Rough stuff.
4:40 is when the fury of a good father awakens
1776 out of 10
You know the war started in 75 right?
@@byutube4360 You know the colonies declared independence is 76 right?
@@feudinggreeks3316 yeah, but the war began the year before
Results oriented. Hence 1776.
@@Kittonwy yeah but the war wasn’t won until 1781 and peace not signed until 1783
kids think they know everything, still holds true till this day
Watching this just makes me think " you done f'd up now". A forest is about to be painted red lol
This movie is legendary.
I instinctively read that title in Mr. T's voice in my head and have been laughing my ass off since
Jason Isaacs always plays a convincing villain.
there is no man more dangerous than the one that just wanted to be left alone with his family.
the people United will never be defeated. God bless America
It will be so. Happy Belated 4th of July everyone!
1:18 the childrens' nanny quietly being unfathomably based in the background. She was in front of them just as fast as Benjamin Martin was.
The field hands explain to the Red Coats that they aren’t slaves, they just live on Martan’s land because it’s easier for them to make a living than to pack up and go elsewhere. The nanny likely was a second mother to those kids, having helped raised many of them from birth. She’s naturally protective of them.
She's a queen.
Yea she loved those kids.
@@hisdudeness8328 The racial dynamic, even where there WAS slavery, was never as simple as modern liberals make it out to be.
@@tgriffin3059 yea, keep justifying slavery bud. This is a f'ing movie, not a documentary.
Honestly can’t stop my tears watching this scene!
I remember seeing this at the theater. "All of you stay here." gave me the chills then, and still does. You knew fury just came out of the box.
u kill a son in front of the father, and expect no reprocussions? lol
Amen
I don't even want to think about it. I can't imagine the depths of cruelty I'd go to if it was my child.
In Lucious Malfoy’s defense, that was a stupid move by the kid, what did he expect 😆I’m just going to overpower 2 men as a 12 year old, in your dream kid.
Well, yeah- they kind of DO! They expect terror, trauma, instant defeat- not you living on rage for 10 years. The Tavingtons of this world are not very smart, are they?
We do this to fathers and brothers now and then shocked picatchu face when they "attack our freedoms"
Tavington is based on a man named Tarleton, and yes. He very much lived up to this reputation
This was the day The Ghost was born..
This is still one of the best battle scenes ever written! A man and his 2 pre-teen boys face off against a full regiment of soldiers to save his other son and survive!
2:20 that church bell is haunting.
Mad max meets Martin Riggs 😂🔥🔥🔥
Mad Max meets Martin Riggs meets William Wallace!
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When you piss John wick great great great grandfather
And only for two sons. Imagine if a Mustang ( the horse of course) and a dog were killed.
Stupid comment!!
@@antoniopena8101'only two sons' lol.
I watched this movie many2 times.. i rate this move 10+/10..
Aim small, miss small.
Regular colonists had the guts and was even willing to put their lives on the line to fight a corrupt government an ocean away. We need to do the same thing since a similar government is on the same continent.
They have drones now lol calm down
British troops were monsters.
@@notabannedaccount8362went both ways there skippy. American troops weren't saints either.
Do you expect good manners or morality in a war?
@@3991zzz Yes.
It is truly astounding how Jason Isaacs "went there" with this character. You didn't know if you crossed paths with him if he was going to either shoot you or slit your throat, Colonel Tavington, one of the scariest screen villains of all time. He showed zero remorse.
Screw loyalty he should have taught his kid a lot something about what to do when outnumbered and picking the time and place for his battles.
If only this tough pragmatic war hero had a keyboard warrior on his side, they’d all have been saved.
He is a teenager. Sometimes teenagers act recklessly.
@@jayvee8502 Guys, he had no point of reference. His father was a rich landowner- he wasn't used to Ben being abused by a Tavington- some stupid Cossack! In a blink of an eye his clan lost everything- and he was way too young to deal with it.
Fun fact: this was a prequel to the Mad Max movies
That boy was stupid. If you are outnumbered, you don't try to be a hero. You will lose if you do.
You have no idea of what a civil war is, do you? Yes, all that talk about being a Reb- yet Ben's children were brought up as English gentlemen and expected to be treated as such. They had no point of reference as to how to deal with someone like Tavington.
@@tatianalyulkin410 I do not understand.
He could have easily been detained. Didn't need to get murdered.
Mel was part of three outstanding war movies!
Learn the lessons of the past. Take your country back from the tyrants
In a few more months..........
Mel tried to warn them. They didn’t listen so Mel went and whooped some ass 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Movies and actors like these dont exist anymore.
5:19 *I wish my dad was like this*
Armed with muskets and about to tell you to kill 20 men?
I’ll be your daddy
One of the greatest movies of all time
the movies Tavington was based on the real atrocities of Banastre Tarleton who actually killed civilians in both New Kent County and Albemarle.County Virginia .. Tarleton burned churches in Charlottesville, Virginia and South Carolina … Washington let British soldiers including Tarleton return to England to prove to the world that America was a civilized nation … I personally would have given the Brits “no quarter “ !!!
British troops were monsters.
After the war, Tarleton vigorously opposed Wilberforce in Parliament in support of slavery. He was a major villain on both sides of the Atlantic.
@@jlrva3864If whites spent some time as slaves, they’d change their tune.
Washington loved his brothers in the lodge.
Tartleton was a single commander though as far as im aware he did not burn any churches though as far as im aware. Its likely he'd have destoryed civillian property as both sides would of done including george washington who attempted to raise new york to the ground once the british captured it after the battle of long island. it also didn't stop americans slaughtering pacifist christian tribes who declared neutrality durring the war.
Both sides in this war were just as bad as the other.
Back in the day when your father tell you to do something or gives you a gun (in this case) and you just stand up ready to take orders and direction from him
In one instant, Tavington just caused the war for the British by unleashing hell upon the British army.
I always thought that the saddest part in this movie was hearing the revolutionary soldiers screaming begging for mercy.
He had no choice. The scriptwriter made him do it.
"Damn him, damn that man!"
Said Nudelman about Zelensky. 😂
Jason Isaacs loving every second of his job
This film is one of only 3 films that I’d score a 10/10. It’s an absolute masterpiece.
Such a good movie
Is that Heath Ledger?
Great movie
Mel Gibson and Russell Crowe were the most unlikely heroes of the early 2000s
When men who just want to be left alone are forced into getting involved, and do so as such to leave no doubt at all they should've been left alone.
Ooh, John Williams score...!
My ancestors were loyalists who fled like cowards to Canada, a country that now lacks an identity, liberties and honour.
As a father, I just wished Mel Gibsons character didnt let Thomas die with the last things he heard being "Stupid boy". Extra heart wrenching to me as a new daddy to baby boys...damn oxytocin making my eyes water 🥲
Having fought in war before he knew that wasn't the time to take his revenge. At that moment he was outnumbered . He had to think about the rest of his family and get Gabriel back before he, too, was murdered. Benjamin knew he needed to choose the time, place, and manner of his revenge
Underrated film 🍿 ❤
This is a war crime. This would have been investigated. This would have caused a lot of outrage.
Both sides did this irl, but no-one would of cared aside from bringing the local community onside with the opposition
4:15 Even Jason Isaac feels bad about this.. 😅😅😂😂😢😢😢😢🎉🎉
I don't need a reason to fight I fight for what is right
Can't you just hear Bobby saying " Idiot! " ?
I am not a father, but if things go like they seem to be going I will have a child with a girl who I consider was beyond my wildest dreams. I didn’t know I could like so much about a person. I am so grateful to be with her and looking forward to the future.
But man, even though right now I don’t have a child, if someone did that to my child. There is literally nothing that’s out of bounds for the person who did that.
I would do anything. And that’s genuinely a scary person to leave alive.
Also I do love how at 4:05, the British officer that carried out his orders knew how horrific what he did is, a boat load of suumariale executions. was probably ashamed and was sad that these children witnessed it.
He’s not proud at all, he’s ashamed.
1:23 nicest thing he did in the whole movie
The scene shows what happens when you enraged a good man. We are peaceful not weak
This would make a guy hate the British.
When people ask if the 2nd amendment is outdated or needs more regulation…this is why it’s by far the most important amendment. People are naive and think we live in a world where governments won’t act like this anymore.
Maynmar is the most modern example. The military literally overthrew the democratic government, and when the people went to the streets to protest, the soldiers were ordered to shoot them. Many were killed, but the backlash has been insane.
The rebel groups, which were very fringe and had little support, gained vastly in manpower and influence. As of to date, they’ve taken over somewhere between a quarter to a third of the country.
We don't need the 2nd amendment anymore since we have pronouns in bios and rainbow flags on lawns.
It's worse than that. It's not that they think their government won't act like this, it's that they think, if the time comes, their government will protect them.
@@1nickdelAmerica would do this, if Trump were reelected.
@@notabannedaccount8362
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OK
No your all right but there's a event true meaning Today.
Mel Gibson is criminally under rated actor
The scariest man to fear, is not the one who has everything to lose.,...................it's the one who has nothing left to lose......
Una Obra Maestra del Cine 🎥 Me saco el sombrero 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
G the British army at hat time would not have wasted bullets on the enemy wounded. The would have used bayonets as they did at Culloden
4:39 Off to make the Passion
I used to love this movie as a kid. Now I have kids seeing Thomas go down hits twice as bad.
Take a man's child right in front of him be prepared for the consequences. Like any parent out there who would do the same these days.
Men like that provoke wars and we still see them today. Needless acts of aggression.
Redcoat awoke the demon that day! Benjamin had built a peaceful life for himself and his family, then this happens. "You cannot truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of violence you're not peaceful, you're harmless."
You take my child you take my soul. I am now the devil. Pure evil
dude calls upon his sons to be men without saying their mission. powerful dad and son experience
When movies were serious..... miss the old times.
Jason Issacs needs to be Gregor Eisenhorn
This was the first time I saw my dad cry. Don't fuckk with kids.
For a foolish rant, one of the greatest cinematic talents, in terms of acting and directing was cancelled. I would take Mel any day over Roman Polanski or Woody Allen
Do not cross a father and his family!!!!
The place is surrounded. Why would he run lol
That British soldier is cruel
Dude took out two of his sons. Savage.
Bad guy got his end
Lot of british joined us. Guys like that last bit. Heart knew. I cant do this.
Thomas offed himself by not listening to his father. He literally darwined himself
He's a boy. He was unarmed
This movie is a movie you can
Watch once a year. Just like the dark knight. It’s just great
And to think the British would have ruled the US if they were more merciful and just.
Sad but cool movie ❤it
Always amazes me that after this the US ever allowed the UK to remain, much less save their asses twice.
Commerce.
Haha look up the war of 1812 and how the US sued for peace. Didn’t all go how the US history books stated. Once Britain finished off Napoleon and sent experienced troops across the Atlantic the US very quickly realised they had a problem.
Americans were too busy slaughtering the indigenous population.
It’s a Hollywood movie for gawds sake. Not a factual documentary. Of course they are going to exaggerate Brits as the “bad guys”.
Because 90% of the UK forces in the US during the war of independence were US born and were responsible for the vast majority of the attrocities (not to say the British born didn't commit their fair share, everyone did). The actual UK military basically didn't take part, they were busy in Europe with the French and Dutch. Be glad of it, had the UK sent an actual army it would have been a 1 sided affair as they could absorb more casulties in 1 battle than occured in the entire war and still be an effective fighting force.
As Micheal Caine once said in a film.
" Thare you are see Hans, it's infalable, I can always tell a thorough going bastard when I see one".
I Scott frigiola
Swoar an oath to protect the health of this nation 💪👊