i was born in early 90s and i quit school after couple years (due my 150+ IQ, schools were too boring and useless to me), but i remember phones being banned aswell. you was allowed to take it to school and class, but it had to be on silent and you wasn't allowed to use it during tests. i also remember how one of those "tough" guys was always "flexing" his expensive phone, he was that bully-type who thought rules don't apply to him, so one time during test he was doing something on phone, probably playing snake, and didn't notice teacher approach, so teacher took the phone out of his hands and smashed it over his head so hard that he fell off his chair. entire class was laughing and he just sat there on the floor with big eyes and about to cry. he sat there for a while and then he said something like "my dad will sue you" but since it was 90s and not nowday eyerolling snowflake society, nothing happened to teacher. guess what? he was never touching his phone ever again during class. i'm not saying violence is solution, but some people just don't have ears for words. try explaining something to dumb person and it just goes in from one ear and out from other. take those as example, who constantly scrub on phones while driving .. they won't listen to any reason, but when they crash their car cuz they were scrubbing on phone, then that lesson will most likely be enough for rest of their life. they won't be scrubbing no more.
Governments need to back institutions and students. A lot of students are absolute drop kicks and if there isn’t a unified stand you’re going to continue to get more deadbeats year in year out.
Well about freakin time!!!! Seriously took you all this long to figure it out???!!!!! With all the those irresponsible social media, ANYONE can see ANYTHING these days, I mean some horrific stuff which is shockingly unimaginable!! And if we as a parents, school and government to stand up today and call these companies out!!!! Your child will forever change! Internet is HIGHLY ADDICTIVE and you go to the park now you don’t see teenagers or even younger kids playing with each other no more but to look at their damn phone!!!!! Less and less social interaction. They are all turning into real life zombies!! To those parents who rather buying their kids the phone in exchange for some ‘peace’ and quiet time for themselves and putting in the minimum nurturing and bonding time with your kids is just the most selfish thing you can do to your kid! Is that the best you can do as a parent!?? Nurturing and cultivate your child’s well being emotionally and spiritually is the best thing you can ever give to your child and is what they truly need deep down! Speaking from someone been studying child psychology for nearly 15 years. It is time for a change! can you imagine with AI adding on top into our future life?? Go figure people.
I thought we already had state run schools.. like , that is our system. We don't trust people to just set up a school and start teaching.. We oversee what's taught, we regulate pretty much all of it. Don't we? Am I missing something?
Discipline! My eldest left last September. I felt it important to provide her with an emergency safety line due to the area we live in. She was taught to not use it inappropriate and was never pulled uponotpr punished as she respected the rules. She also knew if she had broken them rules she would lose that phone and I would not back her behaviour. Too many parents are defending bad behaviour surrounding these devices. So much so they are threatening these schools. Inner city schools are a tough place exist. Even harder when there is no descipline or consequences. Phones should not be in school but could be needed for safety on the journey to school.
I remember back in the 2000s my teacher would walk around the classroom with a box and we all had to put the phones in a box untill the end of the class.
I remeber When Calculators were Banned! If Children Need a Phone in School Make them Use Dumb Phones in School ! They soon Lose interest. What Next Apple Vision in school?
Saying phones are not the problem is like saying guns are not the problem in America. Of course phones are a problem, they make you lose concentration. They are going to find the majourity of their children having problems giving them up in school, which will highlight they are the problem. I would also take advantage of this, the most punctual child that does all their school and homework, gets their phones back during break times.
Completely deluded if you think kids are not using the phone in classes! They are not allowed but in a north London school my daughter is, they have phones on them, makings snaps to harass others, and even have in one ear a wireless air pod in their ear listening to music, cause the teacher is too boring apparently. Yes please ban
There also needs to be a crack down on bullying. There should be a safe space, a bolt hole, in every school where the pupils can get immediate access to a trained professional. Perhaps there are already programs like this happening in schools, I’m not up to date really on what is standard now in schools as my children are all grown but if there aren’t things like this in schools, then there should be. Bullies are now able to get into their victims homes because they have constant access to their victims through the phones. There should also be some sort of naming and shaming of bullies, after a complete investigation of course, to incentivise young people making better choices. So many young people dying from knife crime, probably due to some pointless, childish reasoning as well. It’s heart breaking 💔. I cannot imagine the kind of pressure young people are under these days just trying to grow up. It’s so far removed from my own experiences in the 80’s. I thank god I did not have to face these problems as a young woman, it was difficult enough without all this. Just know, that if you are a young person and struggling with things, there are many, many people who care, even though they don’t know you. Reach out to someone, anyone! Even talking to someone online (an appropriate person, not just some random) will help. They might be able to offer ideas for solutions to your difficulties that you haven’t yet thought off! Give it a try, what do you have to loose? 😢
@@cmciaranmasterson I see, it’s the parent’s fault is it? Or perhaps we should stick to holding people responsible for their own behaviour. I wasn’t just referring to younger children. Bullying happens at all ages.
@@DuchessCecelia72 People who are brought up properly in childhood are less likely to bully. Parents of many children who are bullies have set bad examples to their children - the apple doesn't fall far from the tree! Some children have taken their own lives because of material that they saw on their smartphones and so they'd probably still be alive if their parents didn't let them have smartphones. There's no evidence that the British government is deferential to social-media companies.
@@cmciaranmasterson I’m well aware of that fact but yes you are correct, that is one cause but I’ve known more than a few from very good backgrounds that were terrible bullies simply because they thought they were better than those around them and I’ve certainly known more than a few grown ups who behave in the same manner. If you were LUCKY enough to be born into wealth and opportunity, then that’s wonderful but all those others didn’t have any more choice or control over where they were born and into what situation they were born than you did. Simply be grateful for the wonderful things you have in your life and if you have more than you need, and I mean that to include time, compassion and understanding, then why not try to help those around you. You will feel so much better about yourself than if you choose to bully someone more vulnerable than yourself. You never know, you might even learn something valuable.
It just amazes me that so much political capital is being spent on this non issue when some schools don't even have the budget to cover fire safety....
I work in a school. The problem is mainstream media not being honest about world issues. Kids and familys give their ego to big tech to monopolize now. But kids with phones in school is still a problem.
Kids have access to Internet on their laptops and can go any where to watch or be on social media, so taking the phones is kinda dumb. My grandson doesn't have a phone and he's 15 and no cable , no gaming systems and I have always protected him from all this , but at school he has been subjected to all the garbage I have been trying to keep away from him and games & has been everywhere on the Internet because of school. Go back to paper & pens , don't subject our kids to this garbage out here
I've taught in many schools over the years, and the root of the problem is actually confiscation of phones. If a child is not prepared to hand over a phone, you cannot forcibly take it off them as this can lead to all kinds of accusations being made. Having a rule is one thing, but enforcement of that rule is something else. Most kids usually do follow the rules, unfortunately it is a small hardcore who cause the most disruption and that tends to go hand in glove when it comes to looking at parents assisting a school in achieving its aims.
Ever heard of cutting off wifi, and network coverage 🤔.. don't they teach I.T in your school? Where I used to work we had no access to WiFi or network there for no one used phones as it was pointless.. we just got on with our work..
If a child has a phone after they're 'banned', then make it clear to the brats parents "If your child is caught with a phone/ipad on the schools premises, then you will be given a £100 fine ! If they do it a 2nd time then they will be booted out of the school !". I'm sure these bad parents would soon start 'parenting' their kids !
is it even possible nowadays to jam the radio signal in a school building? you still need to be able to make a call in case of a emergency @@its_Luzci-fer
@@7th.trumpet haha good luck with that.. surely there are more clever ways to deal with his matter than take money from people that barely got anything to begin with.. and creating a culture where kids are kicked out from school 😆 🤣 I think you need to go back to school your self and learn some logic
Smartphones should be banned for anyone under 16. Until then, give them a phone that can txt and call for safety. I'd say 21 but, so many public services are only accessible via an app.
No, I am someone who is concerned about the youth being exposed to things they shouldn't be at an early age. Is being concerned about the mental health of young people an outdated concept? @@worldmilitarystats
NOT USING the mobile phones in the classroom is the very Good policy. How can your students study anything deep with the distraction of a mobile phone????!!!
Won't the parents rise to the occasion and take some responsibility here? Who gave it to them? And now the school has to police it..not fair. Its a huge distraction at schools where you are reqd to focus n learn. Ban it in schools..where teachers are incharge...Do what you want at home...where parents are incharge.
I left school in 2009. Remember at School phones being banned. Could take them in but not allowed out in lessons. Not sure social media was like it is now.
Social media was much smaller as I left School 2013. Facebook was common and TH-cam was growing but there wasn't even instagram and not everyone had a smartphone even.
Schools are meant to prepare kids for working life. Most people are not allowed to use there phone at work and if you work in a call centre for example you are often not allowed a phone on your person at all. Kids have no justifiable reason to have a phone on them at school.
@@robmule4647 the comment on top is talking about having phones AT SCHOOL, if any logic is involved he definitely means the classroom.. punking is talking about WALKING to or from HOME. Are you catching on?
They had a problem with students using smartphones during class a while back here in Texas at our sons' schools. The school instituted a new rule per semester. Any student caught using a smartphone during class had their phone confiscated for the day. If the same student was caught again, the phone was confiscated and the student's parents had to come to the school to pick it up. If it had happened a third time during the same semester, the student could be sent to the Principal's office and paddled (the schools around here have corporal punishment available as a disciplinary option). The problem with smartphones all but disappeared.
They have access to this on the laptops they get at school. They need go back to pen and paper , kids will have to focus and get to work to get it done and won't be anytime while in school to be playing on their phones 😊👍
The recurrent problem I'm seeing here is children. If people just stopped having children then think of the things we could all do with the money and time we'd all save 🤗 And then people could just stop fretting about the whole thing.
Back when I was in school (20's now), my school tried enforcing this ban and it didn't work. It just made kids more sneakier. With the whole ChatGPT, I wonder what the future holds with Secondary Education. Want to fix the phone issue? Hold the parents responsible and fine them if their kids get caught with their phones in school.
@@user-wv1fy6me3q everything will work if the school and the parents take it seriously, no matter you well off or poor. Even the lazy and "can't be bother parents" will start follow!
Phones were banned years ago. This is a non-issue. Back in 2011 when I was in highschool if we got caught with a phone it was confiscated until a parent came in to collect it.
whats the Point having a mobile phone in School when they band on School days ???,I started School in the early 1980's,Left School in 1995,No one even had a Mobile phone back in them days,If went with out mobile phones,Sure the School kids can also do with out a mobile phone,About time it got band,School kids are their to get on with education,Not play about with your mobile phones
@@mikacarneyI was thinking about that too kids only use brick phone but someone said no phone is better and if you want to contact parent go to office school better and safer. Kids under 16 shouldn't have tablet, pc/laptop and mobile anyway. They can access all kinds of weird stuff on Internet
yo what they allowed kids to use phones in classrooms? i thought the locker inside the classroom was supposed to be a storage for books and phones and was only accessible when there's an emergency or sudden important calls and text
The benefits of having CPs in Schools should not be curtailed, it should be used for communication when classes are adjourn. During classes just put off the Wifi or DATA mode.
Head teacher was definately placed in this position to almost defend phones and say it isn't a problem. His argument was almost saying 'don't ban phones - its the app's that are the problem!' Like seriously, the phones are the access to the apps. Definately a nice placed person for the Social Media sites, check his bank account.
guns aren't a problem, bullets are the problem. cigarettes aren't a problem, tobacco is the problem. beer isn't a problem, alcohol is the problem. gambling isn't a problem, losing is the problem.
The head teacher just says " We don't have them here" end of subject. The trouble starts with adults and filters down. People are obsessed with mobile phones. Get a life!
I'm all for the young schoolteacher; he really knows what he's talking about as for students in class and how disruptive cell phones can be. OK, phones are not the worst,, it's everything they give access to. We all know about the dangers of social media but just wait until we learn more about how they can affect our brain. I wouldn't even allow a kid to touch a mobile.
Phones should be banned in classrooms outright. They are a nightmare and students constantly use them. Tic toks made in toilets and filming/photographing of others without consent, obsession with messages all detracts from learning and it’s a massive problem globally. Parents add to this by texting and calling kids when they know they are in class. It all needs to stop.
Kids should not have phones banned at lunch and break times. It's important for safety to have a phone on you. However, in class, they shouldn't be used. If left in the possession of children, it will become a distraction. I'd also argue parents are a problem for their child misbehaving. Parents need to be accountable.
if a school said my daughter couldnt a take a phone at all she'd be out of the school. i imagine this could lead to a law suit if a child gets attacked or suffers problems on the way home.
All these comments only this guy really gets it, the gov don’t care about the consequences or ideology of a policy, they just want vote, easy quick vote that don’t shrink the fat wallet in their pocket
The issue is students / children having no interest in education, no aim, no goal, not believing in themselves, not caring about their future. That's down to both poor parenting and poor opportunities in their area. Just like video games don't make teenagers kill each other, it's not phones distracting education.
The real problem in schools is not mobile phones, or truanting, or antisocial behaviour, it's the lack of parental responsibility. Too many parents now abdicate from their parental role and obligation to raise their children to be responsible and contributing members of our society.
Phones have always been pretty much banned in schools. I left school 20 years ago and mobiles existed and were also banned. What most parents want is phones banned for kids altogether. Not in schools.
Of course they are a problem .They are a distraction .They can take videis of people and share them to bully or humiliate and they should not be allowed in school ! They are there to learn and to learn they need no distraction .! Parents should be on board with this if they want their kids to thrive .
Personal device assistants are like drugs. People abuse them because people's lives are broken in some way. In case of children, they are prone to phone addiction because of the novelty that the phone and all its applications bring. Children need rigorous mental and intellectual stimulation, well-designed and implemented educational and inter-curricular programmes... etc. Once you start fixing these things, then you will see how children will no longer form unhealthy attachment to their phones, which they are doing, by the way, to fill emotional gaps in their lives, or to cope with the difficulties in their lives.
What's the problem? Children shouldn't have phones. They are in school to learn. If Children fail to cooperate, suspend them. Parents just don't raise Children any longer. Half of them are practically feral
People in general are so distracted walking around with their phones actively on TikTok, instagram and snap chat 💬 all day. The kids see this and think it’s normal
Seems "TEACHERS" need to be "LEARNERS". Remove all toys or stay at home. We used to play with conkers untill they were banned as ,"dangerous"?😜. Anything that interferes with class instruction is strictly prohibited ! Headmasters, get your act together, support your staff. If you can't handle discipline you are in the wrong job 😌...........
They should atleast allow brick phones like the nokia, allow non touch phones. That way kids can be contacted in emergency and not like they will use much unless we talking snake game 😂
Back to my days at School,Only entertainment we all got was the Acorn chunky Computers thats in breaktime,Part from that we got to play on the pool table or play about in the School feild,Not a lot else really,No one even owned a Mobile phone back in my School days,Sure all these School kids can do with out a mobile phone
Back in my days, we didn't have a phone until we finished primary school. As of prep school, we could take our phones to school but we had to hand them to the supervisor at the beginning of the lesson and take them back at the end of the day so that nobody could get distracted or caught. Omly during the school trips, we could use our phones for fun. However, phones weren't restricted at college even if we had more than one lecture a day. PS: We always made sure our phones were shut down before we could hand them at school. At college, we made sure to either power off the phone or keep it silent even during the exams although the former was more preferable.
i only went to school for couple years in late 90s and i remember something similar, altho nobody forced you to give your phone away, teachers had the right to physically take the phone if they deemed it necessary. they just said that your phone MUST be on silent (no vibration either) and you can't take it out during class, BUT if you was expecting a call from family, then you had the right to keep it on vibrate, but at start of class you had to notify your teacher about it. i also remember one teacher grabbing some "tough" guy's phone and smashing it over his head so hard that he fell off his chair, entire class was laughing over it, cuz he was one of those entitled rich kids who thought rules dont apply to him. as it was 90s, no action was taken against the teacher, she didn't even have to pay for the damaged phone (which was very expensive at those times). i don't like violence, but i think if teachers would be allowed to do that, then it would only take couple times per school and kids would be too afraid to use their phones in class. perhaps not smash it over someone's head, cuz some phones nowdays have metal edge, but i see no harm in letting teachers grab the phone and smash it on the ground. they should make a law that teachers are not held responsible for any damge to kids phones.
All the school has to do is install devices to stop the internet in the school environment. I can't imagine them trying to take some kids phone, could get aggressive.
Stupidest thing I've heard. About 80% of school learning is online or involves the internet so that's just not gonna work. Especially since teachers also need it.
Not seen Not heard whilst of school grounds should be minimal default, most schools do this already but it doesn't hurt to make it a rule. I'd say go further, ban smart phones for people under 14, and ban social media for under 16s
my daughter takes hers for safety and security And if any teacher forces my daughter or manhandles her to take the phone away I will be waiting for you after work
and will parents back up the schools or work against the plan because their precious one is different and they need to know their location at all times
If you want to protect children & teenagers from online harms you have TWO choices . infantilize adults . BAN SMARTPHONES for under 16yo like smoking, alcohol, etc STOP protecting industry profits at the expense of everyone else
Just block the signal in all schools. The phones will be usless, and the teachers will not have to confront pupils, reducing arguments and freeing up teachers to do their job instead of burdening them with more responsibility.
Lots if schools akeady van phobes. My sons school hands out a detention and confiscate the phobe if thr phobe fmgies off in school. All phobes have to be switched off until end of school day. Children do not have a problem with the rules
My (state) school was banning phone’s completely for the last couple of decades. Sounds like some schools were just too relaxed.
same, when I was in school it was pagers or walkmans (haha), but if you got caught with one, your parents had to collect it at the end of the day.
i was born in early 90s and i quit school after couple years (due my 150+ IQ, schools were too boring and useless to me), but i remember phones being banned aswell. you was allowed to take it to school and class, but it had to be on silent and you wasn't allowed to use it during tests.
i also remember how one of those "tough" guys was always "flexing" his expensive phone, he was that bully-type who thought rules don't apply to him, so one time during test he was doing something on phone, probably playing snake, and didn't notice teacher approach, so teacher took the phone out of his hands and smashed it over his head so hard that he fell off his chair. entire class was laughing and he just sat there on the floor with big eyes and about to cry.
he sat there for a while and then he said something like "my dad will sue you"
but since it was 90s and not nowday eyerolling snowflake society, nothing happened to teacher.
guess what? he was never touching his phone ever again during class. i'm not saying violence is solution, but some people just don't have ears for words. try explaining something to dumb person and it just goes in from one ear and out from other.
take those as example, who constantly scrub on phones while driving .. they won't listen to any reason, but when they crash their car cuz they were scrubbing on phone, then that lesson will most likely be enough for rest of their life. they won't be scrubbing no more.
@@SethiozProject"Due to my 150 iq" give me a break 😂
@@SethiozProject"Due to my 150 iq" give me a break 😂
So fucking what? Do hat you want as long as you don't harm others.
Is school really that bad that the government is "advising" schools to do the things they are/should already be doing?
Governments need to back institutions and students. A lot of students are absolute drop kicks and if there isn’t a unified stand you’re going to continue to get more deadbeats year in year out.
@@solarmaru49 deadbeats have been a thing for millenia, social media nor phones play any part in that, they'll still exist and always will.
@@piddlydiddly 💯agreed.
Well about freakin time!!!! Seriously took you all this long to figure it out???!!!!! With all the those irresponsible social media, ANYONE can see ANYTHING these days, I mean some horrific stuff which is shockingly unimaginable!! And if we as a parents, school and government to stand up today and call these companies out!!!! Your child will forever change! Internet is HIGHLY ADDICTIVE and you go to the park now you don’t see teenagers or even younger kids playing with each other no more but to look at their damn phone!!!!! Less and less social interaction. They are all turning into real life zombies!! To those parents who rather buying their kids the phone in exchange for some ‘peace’ and quiet time for themselves and putting in the minimum nurturing and bonding time with your kids is just the most selfish thing you can do to your kid! Is that the best you can do as a parent!?? Nurturing and cultivate your child’s well being emotionally and spiritually is the best thing you can ever give to your child and is what they truly need deep down! Speaking from someone been studying child psychology for nearly 15 years. It is time for a change! can you imagine with AI adding on top into our future life?? Go figure people.
I thought we already had state run schools.. like , that is our system. We don't trust people to just set up a school and start teaching..
We oversee what's taught, we regulate pretty much all of it. Don't we? Am I missing something?
Discipline! My eldest left last September. I felt it important to provide her with an emergency safety line due to the area we live in. She was taught to not use it inappropriate and was never pulled uponotpr punished as she respected the rules. She also knew if she had broken them rules she would lose that phone and I would not back her behaviour.
Too many parents are defending bad behaviour surrounding these devices. So much so they are threatening these schools. Inner city schools are a tough place exist. Even harder when there is no descipline or consequences.
Phones should not be in school but could be needed for safety on the journey to school.
I remember back in the 2000s my teacher would walk around the classroom with a box and we all had to put the phones in a box untill the end of the class.
I remeber When Calculators were Banned! If Children Need a Phone in School Make them Use Dumb Phones in School ! They soon Lose interest. What Next Apple Vision in school?
@peterreed3104 no one wants to use an apple vision bud and how u gonna make millions of people start using dumb phones? Think ab reality
Saying phones are not the problem is like saying guns are not the problem in America. Of course phones are a problem, they make you lose concentration. They are going to find the majourity of their children having problems giving them up in school, which will highlight they are the problem. I would also take advantage of this, the most punctual child that does all their school and homework, gets their phones back during break times.
Finally no child should have a phone in school it’s pointless & this is what is fuelling cyber bullying
No. Its nice to keep with you just in case
Not really if you use ur head the cyber bullying happens outside school
The amount of idiots using mobile phone on public transport is unbelievable,having to listen to their trash talk is everyone worst nightmare.
Completely deluded if you think kids are not using the phone in classes! They are not allowed but in a north London school my daughter is, they have phones on them, makings snaps to harass others, and even have in one ear a wireless air pod in their ear listening to music, cause the teacher is too boring apparently.
Yes please ban
There also needs to be a crack down on bullying. There should be a safe space, a bolt hole, in every school where the pupils can get immediate access to a trained professional. Perhaps there are already programs like this happening in schools, I’m not up to date really on what is standard now in schools as my children are all grown but if there aren’t things like this in schools, then there should be. Bullies are now able to get into their victims homes because they have constant access to their victims through the phones. There should also be some sort of naming and shaming of bullies, after a complete investigation of course, to incentivise young people making better choices. So many young people dying from knife crime, probably due to some pointless, childish reasoning as well. It’s heart breaking 💔. I cannot imagine the kind of pressure young people are under these days just trying to grow up. It’s so far removed from my own experiences in the 80’s. I thank god I did not have to face these problems as a young woman, it was difficult enough without all this. Just know, that if you are a young person and struggling with things, there are many, many people who care, even though they don’t know you. Reach out to someone, anyone! Even talking to someone online (an appropriate person, not just some random) will help. They might be able to offer ideas for solutions to your difficulties that you haven’t yet thought off! Give it a try, what do you have to loose? 😢
Those bullies wouldn't be able to get int their victims' homes if children were not allowed by their parents to have smartphones.
@@cmciaranmasterson I see, it’s the parent’s fault is it? Or perhaps we should stick to holding people responsible for their own behaviour. I wasn’t just referring to younger children. Bullying happens at all ages.
@@DuchessCecelia72 People who are brought up properly in childhood are less likely to bully. Parents of many children who are bullies have set bad examples to their children - the apple doesn't fall far from the tree! Some children have taken their own lives because of material that they saw on their smartphones and so they'd probably still be alive if their parents didn't let them have smartphones. There's no evidence that the British government is deferential to social-media companies.
@@DuchessCecelia72 Children who are brought up badly are more likely to become bullies because of the poor example set by t heir parents.
@@cmciaranmasterson I’m well aware of that fact but yes you are correct, that is one cause but I’ve known more than a few from very good backgrounds that were terrible bullies simply because they thought they were better than those around them and I’ve certainly known more than a few grown ups who behave in the same manner. If you were LUCKY enough to be born into wealth and opportunity, then that’s wonderful but all those others didn’t have any more choice or control over where they were born and into what situation they were born than you did. Simply be grateful for the wonderful things you have in your life and if you have more than you need, and I mean that to include time, compassion and understanding, then why not try to help those around you. You will feel so much better about yourself than if you choose to bully someone more vulnerable than yourself. You never know, you might even learn something valuable.
It just amazes me that so much political capital is being spent on this non issue when some schools don't even have the budget to cover fire safety....
I work in a school. The problem is mainstream media not being honest about world issues. Kids and familys give their ego to big tech to monopolize now. But kids with phones in school is still a problem.
Kids have access to Internet on their laptops and can go any where to watch or be on social media, so taking the phones is kinda dumb.
My grandson doesn't have a phone and he's 15 and no cable , no gaming systems and I have always protected him from all this , but at school he has been subjected to all the garbage I have been trying to keep away from him and games & has been everywhere on the Internet because of school.
Go back to paper & pens , don't subject our kids to this garbage out here
Kids show porn to other kids at school. That's invasive!!!!
What you on about zephyr?
tik tok, insta and the like.. are all about exploiting the fragile teen ego to boost eyeball time. that translates to capital. @@Disinterested-jg6pw
Ban them parents can call the school or children can call parents from office back to basics
Sorry but some of what children want to talk about is no business of the school. They have bigger problems to solve
@@worldmilitarystats Poor little lambs.
That is so much better hear hear. Better than kids carry brick phone.
@@worldmilitarystatsidiots are here 😂 😂 😂
@@mjh5437These poor little lambs are the future of the country you're talking about, have some respect
Oh no, they’ll have to communicate with people face to face
Exactly!
@@diepiriyeBoomers are bitter.
God forbid - couldn’t possibly let our precious children do that - and certainly not while Covid is still circulating.
I've taught in many schools over the years, and the root of the problem is actually confiscation of phones. If a child is not prepared to hand over a phone, you cannot forcibly take it off them as this can lead to all kinds of accusations being made. Having a rule is one thing, but enforcement of that rule is something else. Most kids usually do follow the rules, unfortunately it is a small hardcore who cause the most disruption and that tends to go hand in glove when it comes to looking at parents assisting a school in achieving its aims.
Ever heard of cutting off wifi, and network coverage 🤔.. don't they teach I.T in your school? Where I used to work we had no access to WiFi or network there for no one used phones as it was pointless.. we just got on with our work..
If a child has a phone after they're 'banned', then make it clear to the brats parents "If your child is caught with a phone/ipad on the schools premises, then you will be given a £100 fine ! If they do it a 2nd time then they will be booted out of the school !". I'm sure these bad parents would soon start 'parenting' their kids !
is it even possible nowadays to jam the radio signal in a school building? you still need to be able to make a call in case of a emergency @@its_Luzci-fer
@@7th.trumpet haha good luck with that.. surely there are more clever ways to deal with his matter than take money from people that barely got anything to begin with.. and creating a culture where kids are kicked out from school 😆 🤣 I think you need to go back to school your self and learn some logic
@@7th.trumpet yeap go back to ruthless punishment, this country has gone soft. About time
These people are out of touch. I work in a nice school in Scotland and kids are always on their phones
Another level of control.
THE PHONES ARE THE PROBLEM. THE BULLYING THAT GOES ON THROUGH THE DAY IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY MANY PROBLEMS!
Only allow them when they finish their work and at Free periods like Lunch or After school activities
Smartphones should be banned for anyone under 16. Until then, give them a phone that can txt and call for safety. I'd say 21 but, so many public services are only accessible via an app.
Are you from 1800
Like I said or Dermot O'Leary from This morning... He said is so correct brick phone for kids and 16yo under. normal mobile defo for 16+
@@worldmilitarystatshaha 😂😂😂Another dumb person here 😂
No, I am someone who is concerned about the youth being exposed to things they shouldn't be at an early age. Is being concerned about the mental health of young people an outdated concept? @@worldmilitarystats
1984 brick phone for everyone if you ask me@@ukchub6633
The guy nailed it at the end.govt wont make any policies that would have an affect on the profit of these multinational giants.
The multinational giants didn't force parents to let their children have smartphones. Malicious online communication is already a crime in the UK.
Children shouldn’t have phones under 16 full stop!!
NOT USING the mobile phones in the classroom is the very Good policy. How can your students study anything deep with the distraction of a mobile phone????!!!
Old phones which only txt and make calls would be fine
Won't the parents rise to the occasion and take some responsibility here? Who gave it to them? And now the school has to police it..not fair.
Its a huge distraction at schools where you are reqd to focus n learn.
Ban it in schools..where teachers are incharge...Do what you want at home...where parents are incharge.
I left school in 2009. Remember at School phones being banned. Could take them in but not allowed out in lessons. Not sure social media was like it is now.
Social media was much smaller as I left School 2013. Facebook was common and TH-cam was growing but there wasn't even instagram and not everyone had a smartphone even.
Many workplaces have a ban on mobile phones .schools should be no exception as long as the teachers and staff allso come under the same rule .
The Internet itself should be banned for anyone under 16
Why 16? Why not 18?
the words of somebody who has not been in school for 30+ years
This is just stupid and you know it.
@@vrclckd-zz3pvwhy ban something that is largely beneficial? You are just putting rules for the sake of putting rules
@@worldmilitarystats I don't think they should be banned, I'm just asking why Myst arbitrarily decided on age 16 instead of 18. Seems ill thought out.
Schools are meant to prepare kids for working life. Most people are not allowed to use there phone at work and if you work in a call centre for example you are often not allowed a phone on your person at all. Kids have no justifiable reason to have a phone on them at school.
yes they should have them but cant go on them, if someone is walking home and have no phone what if they need to call someone or another problem
@@svxnttread the comment again son. Analyse it and make an appropriate response based on what you've just read.
@@svxnttgive your kid brick phone not normal mobile!
@@its_Luzci-fer read the OP's last sentence, and then pumpkins reply. The pumpkin is correct
@@robmule4647 the comment on top is talking about having phones AT SCHOOL, if any logic is involved he definitely means the classroom.. punking is talking about WALKING to or from HOME.
Are you catching on?
They had a problem with students using smartphones during class a while back here in Texas at our sons' schools.
The school instituted a new rule per semester.
Any student caught using a smartphone during class had their phone confiscated for the day.
If the same student was caught again, the phone was confiscated and the student's parents had to come to the school to pick it up.
If it had happened a third time during the same semester, the student could be sent to the Principal's office and paddled (the schools around here have corporal punishment available as a disciplinary option).
The problem with smartphones all but disappeared.
Snapchat and TikTok are the problem, not phones.
Parents need to shut them down, my daughter only gets internet on my very well regulated phone. Hers can access Whats App and that's it.
Brick mobile only for kids. normal phone for adult 16+
Are you trolling 😂😂
They have access to this on the laptops they get at school.
They need go back to pen and paper , kids will have to focus and get to work to get it done and won't be anytime while in school to be playing on their phones 😊👍
@@runningwoodsPen and paper are redundant, you may as well teach them how to weave baskets.
Why dont MPs set the example in the House of Commons where they are at work! and get of their mobiles.
The recurrent problem I'm seeing here is children.
If people just stopped having children then think of the things we could all do with the money and time we'd all save 🤗
And then people could just stop fretting about the whole thing.
The problem is people who think they know everything who actually know nothing….
By George! Y'know, I think you might have something there!
Exactly women opening their legs at every chance then everyone has to deal with their brats.
4:09 Tom literally nodding along
"Tom you're shaking your head"
Top class journalism...
My school didn't allow phones
Back when I was in school (20's now), my school tried enforcing this ban and it didn't work. It just made kids more sneakier. With the whole ChatGPT, I wonder what the future holds with Secondary Education. Want to fix the phone issue? Hold the parents responsible and fine them if their kids get caught with their phones in school.
Direct contact with parent. Registration on each student. So simple they can't hide anymore. This way school know they got mobile or not
@@user-wv1fy6me3q everything will work if the school and the parents take it seriously, no matter you well off or poor. Even the lazy and "can't be bother parents" will start follow!
The phones should have been banned years ago . They are there to learn not sit on the phone .
Phones were banned years ago. This is a non-issue. Back in 2011 when I was in highschool if we got caught with a phone it was confiscated until a parent came in to collect it.
@@vrclckd-zz3pvit absolutely is an issue in many schools; things have changed since we were at school
Did you not watch the bit where it says that phones are already highly prohibited?
@@waqasahmed939 Highley prohibited is not banned and you might do well to go work in a school and see it in action
@@jonsnow6741 what does highly prohibited mean then?
whats the Point having a mobile phone in School when they band on School days ???,I started School in the early 1980's,Left School in 1995,No one even had a Mobile phone back in them days,If went with out mobile phones,Sure the School kids can also do with out a mobile phone,About time it got band,School kids are their to get on with education,Not play about with your mobile phones
they provide a form of emergency contact should anything happen travelling to or from school, in rural areas especially this is really important
@@mikacarneyI was thinking about that too kids only use brick phone but someone said no phone is better and if you want to contact parent go to office school better and safer. Kids under 16 shouldn't have tablet, pc/laptop and mobile anyway. They can access all kinds of weird stuff on Internet
@ukchub6633 true but i think any kid stupid enough to access that stuff above the age of 12 needs a check up
yes ban them
yo what they allowed kids to use phones in classrooms? i thought the locker inside the classroom was supposed to be a storage for books and phones and was only accessible when there's an emergency or sudden important calls and text
*breaking news*
Kids kidnapped and couldnt phone for help
A cost free cheap Tory trick to try and get some headlines. What a waste of time.
The benefits of having CPs in Schools should not be curtailed, it should be used for communication when classes are adjourn. During classes just put off the Wifi or DATA mode.
Head teacher was definately placed in this position to almost defend phones and say it isn't a problem. His argument was almost saying 'don't ban phones - its the app's that are the problem!' Like seriously, the phones are the access to the apps. Definately a nice placed person for the Social Media sites, check his bank account.
Fax
guns aren't a problem, bullets are the problem.
cigarettes aren't a problem, tobacco is the problem.
beer isn't a problem, alcohol is the problem.
gambling isn't a problem, losing is the problem.
@@JTV84 😂 😂 😂
The head teacher just says " We don't have them here" end of subject. The trouble starts with adults and filters down. People are obsessed with mobile phones. Get a life!
I'm all for the young schoolteacher; he really knows what he's talking about as for students in class and how disruptive cell phones can be. OK, phones are not the worst,, it's everything they give access to. We all know about the dangers of social media but just wait until we learn more about how they can affect our brain. I wouldn't even allow a kid to touch a mobile.
Phones should be banned in classrooms outright. They are a nightmare and students constantly use them. Tic toks made in toilets and filming/photographing of others without consent, obsession with messages all detracts from learning and it’s a massive problem globally. Parents add to this by texting and calling kids when they know they are in class. It all needs to stop.
No
@@RealShreyDoshithere a kid here saying no 😂 😂 😂
@@ukchub6633 yes
Kids should not have phones banned at lunch and break times. It's important for safety to have a phone on you. However, in class, they shouldn't be used. If left in the possession of children, it will become a distraction. I'd also argue parents are a problem for their child misbehaving. Parents need to be accountable.
if a school said my daughter couldnt a take a phone at all she'd be out of the school. i imagine this could lead to a law suit if a child gets attacked or suffers problems on the way home.
It's what's on the phone which is a bad influence to teenagers.
Soft porn, drill music, gang culture and zombie knifes and much more.
Phones are pretty much the problem
If you don't have any successful policies, do something popular with your elderly supporters and the tabloids that won't cost anything.
All these comments only this guy really gets it, the gov don’t care about the consequences or ideology of a policy, they just want vote, easy quick vote that don’t shrink the fat wallet in their pocket
Just turn off the CPs to Silent Mode, during classes. It will not disturb.
The issue is students / children having no interest in education, no aim, no goal, not believing in themselves, not caring about their future. That's down to both poor parenting and poor opportunities in their area. Just like video games don't make teenagers kill each other, it's not phones distracting education.
The real problem in schools is not mobile phones, or truanting, or antisocial behaviour, it's the lack of parental responsibility.
Too many parents now abdicate from their parental role and obligation to raise their children to be responsible and contributing members of our society.
Phones have always been pretty much banned in schools. I left school 20 years ago and mobiles existed and were also banned. What most parents want is phones banned for kids altogether. Not in schools.
If most parents wanted that, most children wouldn't have a phone 🙄
Very good 👍
Meanwhile I use a mobile phone for a hotspot while I'm at college
I can understand banning phones during class, but why during breaks and lunch? Isn't that supposed to be the students' free time?
Of course they are a problem .They are a distraction .They can take videis of people and share them to bully or humiliate and they should not be allowed in school ! They are there to learn and to learn they need no distraction .! Parents should be on board with this if they want their kids to thrive .
These teachers have no problem with gender lies either. Phones are addictive . These teachers use them for classes nothing but lazyiness.
A very good move.pupils are there to be taught not to be looking or listening to anyone else.
Phones should be banned for under 16's
Even flip phones ?
Why is that?
@@ZiGGi03maybe brick phone ok
Not even break? Why. WHY.
About time
Try cracking down on phones at work then we might get service 🙄
Tell them to get stuffed
Personal device assistants are like drugs. People abuse them because people's lives are broken in some way. In case of children, they are prone to phone addiction because of the novelty that the phone and all its applications bring. Children need rigorous mental and intellectual stimulation, well-designed and implemented educational and inter-curricular programmes... etc. Once you start fixing these things, then you will see how children will no longer form unhealthy attachment to their phones, which they are doing, by the way, to fill emotional gaps in their lives, or to cope with the difficulties in their lives.
phones aren't the problem, it's social media and cameras on the phones
What's the problem? Children shouldn't have phones. They are in school to learn. If Children fail to cooperate, suspend them. Parents just don't raise Children any longer. Half of them are practically feral
People in general are so distracted walking around with their phones actively on TikTok, instagram and snap chat 💬 all day. The kids see this and think it’s normal
It's a good idea, it makes a difference and it's worth the effort. No tolerance is the only way.
Shouldn't we be sorting out the vape issue in schools
Seems "TEACHERS" need to be "LEARNERS". Remove all toys or stay at home. We used to play with conkers untill they were banned as ,"dangerous"?😜. Anything that interferes with class instruction is strictly prohibited ! Headmasters, get your act together, support your staff. If you can't handle discipline you are in the wrong job 😌...........
My daughter neds to track my granddaughter as she walks to school. Best to hand them in and retrieve at the close of lessons.
They should atleast allow brick phones like the nokia, allow non touch phones. That way kids can be contacted in emergency and not like they will use much unless we talking snake game 😂
Social media is the problem
Back to my days at School,Only entertainment we all got was the Acorn chunky Computers thats in breaktime,Part from that we got to play on the pool table or play about in the School feild,Not a lot else really,No one even owned a Mobile phone back in my School days,Sure all these School kids can do with out a mobile phone
Hear hear
So it is a problem... What is that headteacher on about? Is he deliberately trying to make a point against the govt? Probably.
Gen S needs to put their phones away.
I think knives and fentanyl are a bigger problem….
thought that was a hair on my screen
Back in my days, we didn't have a phone until we finished primary school. As of prep school, we could take our phones to school but we had to hand them to the supervisor at the beginning of the lesson and take them back at the end of the day so that nobody could get distracted or caught. Omly during the school trips, we could use our phones for fun. However, phones weren't restricted at college even if we had more than one lecture a day.
PS: We always made sure our phones were shut down before we could hand them at school. At college, we made sure to either power off the phone or keep it silent even during the exams although the former was more preferable.
i only went to school for couple years in late 90s and i remember something similar, altho nobody forced you to give your phone away, teachers had the right to physically take the phone if they deemed it necessary.
they just said that your phone MUST be on silent (no vibration either) and you can't take it out during class, BUT if you was expecting a call from family, then you had the right to keep it on vibrate, but at start of class you had to notify your teacher about it.
i also remember one teacher grabbing some "tough" guy's phone and smashing it over his head so hard that he fell off his chair, entire class was laughing over it, cuz he was one of those entitled rich kids who thought rules dont apply to him. as it was 90s, no action was taken against the teacher, she didn't even have to pay for the damaged phone (which was very expensive at those times).
i don't like violence, but i think if teachers would be allowed to do that, then it would only take couple times per school and kids would be too afraid to use their phones in class. perhaps not smash it over someone's head, cuz some phones nowdays have metal edge, but i see no harm in letting teachers grab the phone and smash it on the ground.
they should make a law that teachers are not held responsible for any damge to kids phones.
All the school has to do is install devices to stop the internet in the school environment. I can't imagine them trying to take some kids phone, could get aggressive.
Stupidest thing I've heard. About 80% of school learning is online or involves the internet so that's just not gonna work. Especially since teachers also need it.
Not seen Not heard whilst of school grounds should be minimal default, most schools do this already but it doesn't hurt to make it a rule. I'd say go further, ban smart phones for people under 14, and ban social media for under 16s
Absolutely what should be done.
so thats go back to the 1800 yh so we go not school or work yh thats do that thats what your asking yh 🎉
We didn’t have phones in the 80s def ban them in classes I agree keep them in lockers locked up till after school has finished
Didnt have them in the 90s or early 00s either
my daughter takes hers for safety and security
And if any teacher forces my daughter or manhandles her to take the phone away
I will be waiting for you after work
If she does not follow rules I hope you like home schooling.
Good luck with that. It's 2024, your phone is your life.
and will parents back up the schools or work against the plan because their precious one is different and they need to know their location at all times
Good
There are two issues. The phones are the issue and the social media is the issue.
If you want to protect children & teenagers from online harms you have TWO choices
. infantilize adults
. BAN SMARTPHONES for under 16yo like smoking, alcohol, etc
STOP protecting industry profits at the expense of everyone else
Your stupid lol. Ban smartphones in primary schools. Smartphones are a requirement now so get used to the norm
'Phones are not the problem'; the fucking kids are!
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Phone, Internet, and computer are the biggest problem. Stop denying idiot
He clearly noded his head. Dont know why she confused that to shaking a head
What a mess..turn them off hand in every lesson..discipline 😳 a dirty word nowadays
Just block the signal in all schools. The phones will be usless, and the teachers will not have to confront pupils, reducing arguments and freeing up teachers to do their job instead of burdening them with more responsibility.
It’s illegal to block such signals, at least in terms of active blocking.
Lots if schools akeady van phobes. My sons school hands out a detention and confiscate the phobe if thr phobe fmgies off in school. All phobes have to be switched off until end of school day. Children do not have a problem with the rules
They were already banned in my school lol. In college now and they're still not really allowed barely.
Phones are not the issue. What kids do with them is.
In other words... the phone
Parents, school, gov, kids and mobile and most of Internet all got problems!
True all the more reason to ban them in school
Lol Ye because this is really gonna work isn’t it ? 😂. Because the teachers are gonna check every pupil for phones each morning aren’t they? 😂