Another great video on a underrated topic!! The term Chino itself is fascinating as during most of the colonial period in Mexico going back to the sixteenth century it's most common usage was to refer to people of mixed descent (usually strongly indigenous and african), at the same time in the Phillipines the term Chino, which may derive from the mercantile Chinese-Filipino name Sangley you went over in another video, came to refer to people of Asian decent in the Spanish eye. At Acapulco where both of these regions met, Chino was used generally to refer to any slave being imported no matter if they were Asian or not. Only later did the association with Asia and China win out in common usage.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! Many slaves coming to Acapulco were also of East African descent, so it makes sense why chino would come to be associated with slavery.
Regardless of that indigenous people and east asians were classified the same and then those Asian slaves were reclassified as indios. Black africans and light and dark skin asians were classified as indios.
In English colonial sources there's similar situation making it difficult to track the precise origins of Asian servants and slaves, but instead of using China as interchangeable with all of Asia, they did so with India, calling all Asians terms like "East Indian" or "Asiatic Indian" to distinguish them from Indigenous Americans.
wow this was so informative! I was expecting to hear about Romani people. Did you know about the Roma (Calé) men being enslaved in the galleon galleys? Devastating that Spain did so much harm in a short time. I now know so much more about our shared history. Catarina de San Juan! wow! amazing! she must be honored along with all others and their descendants.
Ask my Mexican friends what their family calls Vietnamese, Japanese, Thai, Cambodian, Indonesian, even today they still call them "Chino". Even Filipinos until Pacquiao started knocking out Mexicos top boxers called them "chino" and if it wasn't for Pacquiao they still would be called that.
@antonexx Well thats what's happens when you fight a steroid freak. I mean a lot of 35 y"old go through a miraculous 2nd puberty after they start training with a known steroid pusher. Lol. Pacquiao already beat him twice & he Marquez didn't want to fight again because he knew he was going to get busted juicing since it would be an Olympic level blood test not just piss. When he refused another fight after clearly juicing that pretty much invalidated the win.
Actually there were more than enough workers in "New Spain" IE the Viceroyalty, Spain had passed laws making it illegal to enslave people born in the Viceroyalty as it was a province of the empire which differed from the colonial status of PH... not to mention the heavy mixing of the populations through religion, family, etc...
So here my thing 300 k slave came to usa and there descendants rank 40 million today asians slave brought 120k and we gonna pretend like the numbers add up. 250 k slaves in mexico turned into 2.5 million black mexicans. While in usa only 300 k slave came and they have 40 milion descendants. Where are the asian slaves because it sound like they got reclassified as native american. Dna test cant tell native americans apart from east asians. And many populations today are gentically European or indo european. Asian and native american number dont add up also when african maroon escape and resettle in hard to reach areas did asians slaves to. It sound like asian slaves were not in the field and had better life expectancies. But the numbers are not adding up and it sound like the people we call native are mixed just like black americans yet in dna analysis they seen as a distinct native group when there mixed race indigenous and chinese slave.
Native American is a legal and political status all across the Americas, those people are nothing but of chinese, japanese, etc descent and it wasn't that many naturally dark-skinned africans here in the Americas including in the United States and that wasn't until the early 1870's/1904 and that was during those World's Fairs and it was a very small number of them that came willingly also "Black/African-American" is a socio and political construct
That is a complete lie. 23 and me does have SEPARATE categories for Asian and Indigenous of the Americas for Mesoamericans. The history that we have in Mexico is very different from your USA history. 49% Indigenous and 3.8% East Asian is not the same thing. Our history isn’t very old, it’s well documented and tracing our family trees isn’t hard to do.
@azborderlands 23 and me doesn't have a native separation. As a matter of face many native don't share there DNA. Is you are mexican the whole make lights up. Mexican on average are mixed race white. The short stubby one clearly have philipino ancestry. Like I said the number are not adding up.
Wow I had no idea that "chino" came from slavery... even today in Mexico they call Asian people chino. There are some Mexicans who look Asian and they are nicknamed as "chino" as well even though they are Mexican.
East Asians And South East Asians may face lots of gross sentimentals in Latin America but it is significantly less then Amerindians And Sub Saharan Africans have to take on yeah.
In mesoamerica we said “Indio” not Amerindian. Most results DNA wise I’ve seen have very minut levels of East Asian and African like down to 3%.. the majority of people are close to 50-50 indigenous and Iberian
Another great video on a underrated topic!! The term Chino itself is fascinating as during most of the colonial period in Mexico going back to the sixteenth century it's most common usage was to refer to people of mixed descent (usually strongly indigenous and african), at the same time in the Phillipines the term Chino, which may derive from the mercantile Chinese-Filipino name Sangley you went over in another video, came to refer to people of Asian decent in the Spanish eye. At Acapulco where both of these regions met, Chino was used generally to refer to any slave being imported no matter if they were Asian or not. Only later did the association with Asia and China win out in common usage.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! Many slaves coming to Acapulco were also of East African descent, so it makes sense why chino would come to be associated with slavery.
Regardless of that indigenous people and east asians were classified the same and then those Asian slaves were reclassified as indios. Black africans and light and dark skin asians were classified as indios.
I'm pretty sure they just declassified them as native.
@@blackloki9 BINGO !!!
Ooh, I recently came across Seijas' piece about this topic while writing a paper on a related subject, so it's cool to see a video covering it!
Seijas was one of the first to write extensively on Asian slaves in Mexico, I believe. Her book on the subject was a good read
In English colonial sources there's similar situation making it difficult to track the precise origins of Asian servants and slaves, but instead of using China as interchangeable with all of Asia, they did so with India, calling all Asians terms like "East Indian" or "Asiatic Indian" to distinguish them from Indigenous Americans.
Very interesting!
00:50 the Manila Galleon trade! Always learning something I was on purpose not taught. What was the caste system called?
wow this was so informative! I was expecting to hear about Romani people. Did you know about the Roma (Calé) men being enslaved in the galleon galleys? Devastating that Spain did so much harm in a short time. I now know so much more about our shared history. Catarina de San Juan! wow! amazing! she must be honored along with all others and their descendants.
Ask my Mexican friends what their family calls Vietnamese, Japanese, Thai, Cambodian, Indonesian, even today they still call them "Chino". Even Filipinos until Pacquiao started knocking out Mexicos top boxers called them "chino" and if it wasn't for Pacquiao they still would be called that.
Very interesting!
Pacquiao and Mexicans?? Pacquia was lucky not to have died on the ring 😂
@antonexx Well thats what's happens when you fight a steroid freak. I mean a lot of 35 y"old go through a miraculous 2nd puberty after they start training with a known steroid pusher. Lol. Pacquiao already beat him twice & he Marquez didn't want to fight again because he knew he was going to get busted juicing since it would be an Olympic level blood test not just piss. When he refused another fight after clearly juicing that pretty much invalidated the win.
@@antonexxlol dis you watch 5 filipinos vs 20 Mexican lucky they don't die
@@moonlettek73 I don't know what you're talking about, Willis, but we know the whole world saw Pacquiao be put to sleep.
No wonder why I am infatuated with Asian stuff as a Mexican. Never thought in a million years that it was my deep roots all along
Imagine how would Latin America would have turn out if Spain continued it Asian slave trade vs the African slave trade.
Do a video on, Asians in Jamaica!!!!!!!!!!
Actually there were more than enough workers in "New Spain" IE the Viceroyalty, Spain had passed laws making it illegal to enslave people born in the Viceroyalty as it was a province of the empire which differed from the colonial status of PH... not to mention the heavy mixing of the populations through religion, family, etc...
So here my thing 300 k slave came to usa and there descendants rank 40 million today asians slave brought 120k and we gonna pretend like the numbers add up. 250 k slaves in mexico turned into 2.5 million black mexicans. While in usa only 300 k slave came and they have 40 milion descendants. Where are the asian slaves because it sound like they got reclassified as native american. Dna test cant tell native americans apart from east asians. And many populations today are gentically European or indo european. Asian and native american number dont add up also when african maroon escape and resettle in hard to reach areas did asians slaves to. It sound like asian slaves were not in the field and had better life expectancies. But the numbers are not adding up and it sound like the people we call native are mixed just like black americans yet in dna analysis they seen as a distinct native group when there mixed race indigenous and chinese slave.
BINGO!
Native American is a legal and political status all across the Americas, those people are nothing but of chinese, japanese, etc descent and it wasn't that many naturally dark-skinned africans here in the Americas including in the United States and that wasn't until the early 1870's/1904 and that was during those World's Fairs and it was a very small number of them that came willingly also "Black/African-American" is a socio and political construct
That is a complete lie. 23 and me does have SEPARATE categories for Asian and Indigenous of the Americas for Mesoamericans. The history that we have in Mexico is very different from your USA history. 49% Indigenous and 3.8% East Asian is not the same thing. Our history isn’t very old, it’s well documented and tracing our family trees isn’t hard to do.
@@azborderlandsIt's been exposed that ancestry DNA tests are "for entertainment purposes only"
Dane Calloway channel Kurimeo channel
@azborderlands 23 and me doesn't have a native separation. As a matter of face many native don't share there DNA. Is you are mexican the whole make lights up. Mexican on average are mixed race white. The short stubby one clearly have philipino ancestry. Like I said the number are not adding up.
Wow I had no idea that "chino" came from slavery... even today in Mexico they call Asian people chino. There are some Mexicans who look Asian and they are nicknamed as "chino" as well even though they are Mexican.
I don't understand. Why banned asian enslavement , but allowed afran enslavement?
Asian royal culture is a little bit fancier than Europes.....what do you mean slaves?
S/O to all my Asians and Mexicans
East Asians And South East Asians may face lots of gross sentimentals in Latin America but it is significantly less then Amerindians And Sub Saharan Africans have to take on yeah.
In mesoamerica we said “Indio” not Amerindian. Most results DNA wise I’ve seen have very minut levels of East Asian and African like down to 3%.. the majority of people are close to 50-50 indigenous and Iberian