Is Steph Curry Right in Saying We’ve Seen the End of NBA Dynasties? | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Rich Eisen and the guys discuss Klay Thompson joining the Dallas Mavericks and former Warriors guard Steph Curry’s assertion that we’ve seen the last of NBA dynasties.
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6 different champs in 6 years. No defending champion as even made it to the conference finals since the 2019 Warriors.
Unless players take less to stay together, hes right
The league has lacob to thank for the nba outlawing buying rings, which is what he did for curry, and it's why the warriors dynasty was a checkbook dynasty, which makes it a fake dynasty.
As a Dubs fan, I loved every second of the Dubs Dynasty and there was a lot that had to break our way for it to happen! We love and miss you Klay! Be seeing you! 💛 💙
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Steph's not wrong. The NBA has become a league where it has become super hard to repeat as champions now that there is more parity than ever. The 2021 Bucks and the 2022 Warriors have a lot to do with that narrative. Plus the new CBA is also playing a major role in why there may not be a repeat champion for a long time.
He actually is wrong. Some smart GM will find a way at some point in time. Every time a dynasty ends we ask this question, and eventually another one comes around. Dynasties are rare, rules change, and nothing is forever.
The key thing here is the CBA made it impossible to keep super teams together now! Even if Jeff Bezos buys the Celtics, is even he really gonna be cool with paying +$800M/year in salary to be competitive?! 😅 💰 🏆
For superteams, yes, damn near impossible. Those days of calling your friends and teaming up in Miami are gone. However, if you draft correctly like the Warriors, its still possible to build a dynasty. Look at OKC, they are young and if they can add the correct pieces (not necessarily a superstar or just one), they have a good chance of becoming a dynasty.
@@BunnyP3 Having a deep bench can also offset the lack of a Big 3 like we've seen. If you're getting some level of production offensively/defensively no matter the minutes afforded you are likelier to go deep then a team that relies on 1-2 super stars and then gets absolutely torn to shreds the second that injury you prayed against all season happens. People don't like it for fantasy purposes but eff em, there's no reason a player should be playing 95%+ of minutes in a blowout. I see too often teams trade a cavalcade of bench players in the hopes of grabbing that 1 key starter or even bench starter, almost being terrified to develop their back end prospects.
Not to mention now teams are being punish for drafting and developing there picks. You can keep them if they need to get paid. SMH
Why not.. it's a write off for him lol
@@BunnyP3It doesn’t matter how well you draft and you correctly decide to pay this new CBA is designed to break up teams after 3-4 years unless those teams starting winning chips on their rookie contracts. No NBA teams has ever won a chip with majority of their core on the rookie scale.
After the 4th year in the 2nd apron the teams 1st rd picks falls to 30th so if a team has 3 picks in the 1st it could be 28th, 29th, 30th even if one of those picks was from a trade that ended up being the 1st pick overall.
Curry meant it’s hard to do it with the same 3 guys. Not necessarily that there won’t be another dynasty
Exactly
He also highlighted the longevity. Even if the celtics make it to the next 3 Finals It won't be 10 years with the same core... So I guess you would have to know exactly what he was trying to say to declare him wrong. Sadly many media personalities either overreact to a specific portion of a quote or hear the whole qoute and still choose to only truly hear a portion of it.
Bleep them kids 😂😂😂
That Brockman guy clearly don't know what he's talking about 😂
Klay is a real one
The Celtics are on the sell block for a reason. I guess their current owners realized they'll have to spend hundreds of millions to keep it going and want someone else to come in and spend that money. This is what Lacob was willing to do with the Warriors.
This comes up every now and again, but eventually a franchise is able to put together a young core that grows into a dynasty and it starts all over again.
You can have dynasties but it means star players not making as much money. It means sacrificing $ which many won’t be willing to do.
We love you Klay. Thank you. I don’t care where you go I will always give you respect and love. Good luck.
RIP CITY!!!!!!
We in the new 70’s era
Nah.. not enough cocaine use
Technically 1980 was part of that string of new champs too...
The 70's had no 3 point line less teams...then less cause of the aba and then we had the aba nba merger no 3 point line until 1980 it was a different sport...
There will be another dynasty at least. Maybe not Golden State-esque .
Dynasties will always be around. The Warriors dynasty literally just won their 4th 2 years ago. Prior to that there was the Spurs Dynasty co-existing with the Lakers unique dynasty. Even the Heatles (though they didnt reach dynasty status) were pretty close to it as well. It might take a while for the next one to appear but dynasties will always exist.
It's so hard to repeat, man. It took that crazy team with Durant for just 2 champs.
BAY AREEAAAA
Thank You Klay 1️⃣1️⃣
As long as who gets the jersey number, you should shoot for it. You, the other player and the coach alone in the gym. Coach chooses game (three pointers, free throws, horse or one on one, etc.). Winner gets the number.
Good logic... well these guys almost won in the 90s ima do it too maybe lol
Back to back isn’t a dynasty
Technically, it is. But if you win more, you elevate your dynasty status. Because Golden State won in 2015 and then in 2017 and 2018, they became one.
3 in 5 or 6 is...heck even 7 if you are a great team yearly...
This isn't modern baseball....teams win multiple in hockey basketball and football...even the giants won 3 in 5 in baseball...
San Antonio Spurs are about to start their second dynasty
He's right
He still looks bitter! 😂😂
Once again, Brockman shows why everyone hates Boston fans.
He looks like boston ugh...wish his team lost cause he smug again like it's early 2019 again...jesus boston fans become irrational
I mean the dynasty with kd was different and winning 4 is not quite 6 in 7 playoffs like say mj or russell winning 8 in a row....making 5 finals in a row winning 3 of 4 will be tough for sure
I think we’re all about to find out that the GSW was more than the sum of their parts…
Is there anyone who thinks otherwise?
Which talking heads thought that The Warriors would repeat after their 2022 Championship, especially when they signed Wiggins and Poole to retain most of their key players (lost Iguadala)? Then those two tanked big time in 2022/2023. Cautionary tale for the Celtics. And I actually like them!
It's ridiculous. Every time there's a dynasty it's commented "We'll never see anything like this again." Until some team comes along a decade or two later. Technically we've never seen a dynasty like Bill Russell's Celtics. The Bulls were the next best thing in the 90s. The Lakers/Spurs in the aughts. GS in the 10s. Sure everything has to come together...but everything does that sometimes.
Humans are short sighted and can't think past a few years into the future. The NBA plans to last thousands of years if not more. Of course it will happen again and again
Klay has nothing left.
Yeah.. probably gonna believe the guy who has quite literally LIVED the nba his ENTIRE life over anyone else on this topic. Dynasties are over with the current cba agreement.
Shai, Chet, and J-Dub. As early as next season.
I wonder if he could get away with asking/paying Kyrie to go back to 2
Warriors have traded Curry to Hornets for LaMelo and multiple first round picks.
Klay looks happy in Dallas ..i bet he has a revenge season now that his money mind and joy is right...he not washed...he proved he can ball last season...he just didn't feel wanted by the warriors anymore and thus played bad causs he was going to leave...why try hard when they pushing you out the door...
NBA teams only have 12 players suited up, and only 5 starters, obviously. While there is more parity than ever in the league, it's still a game that allows you to get good, really quickly, and stay good longer. There will definitely be more 3-5 year runs. Not to say that it's easy, but the odds are better in the NBA because one player can really tip the scale. In other sports, a player can be the best at his/her position, but it's much more difficult to be dominant all-around because most pitchers don't hit, most QB's don't play linebacker, and goalies are largely stationary and don't score at all. There are role players in the NBA too, for sure, but one player can affect the overall outcome more frequently.
I don't think a dynasty will happen any time soon because no generational stars are left after Curry and LeBron retire. We by is the last chance, but that won't start to happen till at least four years from now. The second reason why it won't happen is that as the salary of the top contacts keeps increasing, the more these stars are going to turn into mercenaries each time their contract is up for dispute. It will become customary for players to hop around the league, and it will be impossible for a dynasty to form.v
@@mazengwe28 Many aspects lead to players becoming generational stars, but a large part of it is rings. So isn't it odd to declare there aren't any when it's very possible someone will win multiple times among the current players? It could also be someone unexpected, like people didn't see Steph coming.
@@mazengwe28 Are you saying no more great players will play in the NBA ever again? Or the league is shutting down after next season? There will be all kinds of all-time great players and all sorts of dynasties in the next 20-30 years. The league doesn't want actual parity, they want the appearance of parity. That's what all the pro Leagues do. The reason is because more people tune in to watch teams they don't follow if that team is one they really want to see win or really want to see lose. It doesn't happen if there isn't a villain. They will make sure there is a villain.
@@JetForceFive 20-30 years is a long time. I'm saying at least ten years. The only chance is Wemby starting a Dynasty in 5-7 years. Otherwise, it will be a while.
@mazengwe28 I can agree with that, dynasties aren't normal occurances, I just don't believe GSW is the last.
I don't think a dynasty will happen any time soon because no generational stars are left after Curry and LeBron retire. We by is the last chance, but that won't start to happen till at least four years from now. The second reason why it won't happen is that as the salary of the top contacts keeps increasing, the more these stars are going to turn into mercenaries each time their contract is up for dispute. It will become customary for players to hop around the league, and it will be impossible for a dynasty to form.
Klay is past his prime (with big injury) Green is over rated.. Steph is the BEST shooter of all time and can be part of many more GREAT Warriors teams over the next 10 years.
You can’t help but like klay, he’s in his thirties now but he still comes off as a polite college kid who just wants to make people happy. I hope Dallas finishes the story this year!!
Minnie Mr. Clean awfully giddy over his Celtics. They will get bounced in the 2nd round next year.
He’s so roasted. This dude is a BUCKET
Curry is wrong in saying the warriors had a dynasty.
Chris thinking this Boston championship means anything is hilarious when you had the entire eastern conference playing field injured. The east got so much better this off season. Doubt Boston wins 2/3 in the next 3 years.
Rare clip that Chris Brockman is the voice of reason. Not necessarily about the Celtics (although they do have a decent chance), but that the entire history of the NBA is dynasties. It would not at all be surprising if the Celtics or Nuggets when 2 champs in the next 5 seasons.
Dynasty is 2 plus I think it will nuggets boston match ups
You win back-to-back or like two in 5 while making at least three trips to the championship, you start as a dynasty, but you can grow and elevate your status as a dynasty.
Dynasty is minimum 3 and that’s pushing it
@@JC-hq7iu respectfully disagree.
First celtics title in 16 years....this dude acting like his team is mj bulls
That man walked in protest in Oakland with me & a ton of like minded human beings he’s a real one.
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Good job destroying your own city so someone else can get rich smart guy. Keep up with that feeling lol
Let’s make this about you.
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It went from who's gonna beat the nuggets they were for sure repeating and starting a dynasty to the celtics win now there gonna win 3 out of 4 lol there starting 5 will be a making a billion dollars he's not paying that makes you wonder why the sale rumor came out so quick and the owners looking to sale the team in the next couple years
Um, Chris, my guy, your Celtics have won 1 TITLE IN 8 YEARS with Tatum and Brown. ONE. That’s your core and they’re 8 years into their career.
And your team has new ownership. Is the owner going to be THAT WILLING TO PAY?
GSW blew up everything because it wasn’t just the luxury tax penalty. It’s going to be impossible to create longevity and continuity anymore. At least for a while.
Ofc going to 2 Finals in 3 years, to me, means that the Celtics already are in the midst of a dynasty, but I don’t see them repeating. They give off Spurs dynasty energy to me. IF they’re that lucky bc 2003-2014, the Spurs had essentially the same core three players. So I don’t think the Celtics are adding another core person and once Tatum and Brown aren’t elite defenders anymore…..which could be soon btw….without a new piece, they’re not going to be a real dynasty.
Brockman is going to be taken out one day at a game by a full aluminum twist off coors light.. if he ever went to a game.
Jesus loves you! God bless! Jeremiah 29:11 - For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Psalms 62 - Truly my soul finds rest in God; ... my salvation comes from Him. Truly He is my rock and my salvation; ... He is my fortress, I will never be shaken. ✝🤍🙏💪
A rare win for Chris. he is 100% right. Heard this narrative about the Bulls when they won their last 3 in a row. NBA is built on this.
Tatum and Brown's window for a chip was literally this year, and they knew it. From injuries to an easy path, it was now or never. And still, Tatum had to be carried by Brown and his teammates. They will be milking this ring like the 2008 team for a long time... Too much up and coming guys and teams, who have a hunger that they do not
Leave it to a Celtics fan to say were gonna see a dynasty with this current Celtics team. Man please, i got a better chance of remarriage than the Celtics do of being a dynasty...and BLEEP DEM KIDS!!!😂😂😂
Celtics aren’t repeating
Yeah remember when they said Boston wouldnt win a championship. Yeah you all say a lot of bullshit.
@@lightningalpha8 “Mavs in 5!” Lol
That was before luka was injured. Along with EVERY best player the celtics played every round@@lightningalpha8
Boston is the next dynasty, Steph is wrong.
I think that’s what Steph wants to happen but someone will figure out the CBA and will be successful for 6 to 8 year span and win 3 to 4 rings in that time frame. OKC is for sure an organization that has the ingredients to do it.
Good riddance to klay. Loved him, but good luck playing with those two knuckleheads.
I can see this Celtics team being big headed next season and not even making back to conference finals
Nobody even pays attention to the NBA anymore. It has become so boring and stale. Also dynasties are not what people think they are. Winning 2 championships in a row is not a dynasty if you don't win another one. You are only a dynasty if you win 3 of 4, or 4 of 6, or more than 2 in a row. Any team can have a great 2 year stretch.