33:50 stuff went from I griefed it to fax really fucking quick. Whilst Spea might be overexaggerating a bit, I swear there are genuinely a lot of junglers that do not know about this - all the way up to Diamond (before Emerald). Aside from the delusional ADC, the percentage of toxic junglers is WAY higher. Like, I could count the games I ve played with genuinely chill and decent junglers on one hand and still had some fingers to spar to type Jungle Diff.
😂😂😂 I know it looks and sounds like spear is taking a piss on junglers. That’s because he is. My buddy use to say support was the easiest roll, then he’d say jungle is the hardest which never made sense to me because they are sister rolls. As far as agency goes, the whole team can feel it when they are getting jungle and support diffed more than any other role.
Jungle is just a global support. Theyre the same role. Support is mainly a single lane babysitter, jungle is an every lane babysitter but still same requirements as support. Only difference is its 50% PVE against no humans then once you’re done PVE go fight a 2v1 lmao. Only thing that literally matters is being stat checked by the other jungler and thats just a champ select diff not a diff that happens during the game.
If jungle is a braindead role then the enemy jungler should also have an easy win right? Never understood how people used that dumb logic. Jungle isnt about mechanics for the most part, its about macro, decision making, shot calling, map awareness, jng tracking, tempo and more map related things and i dont even main jng anymore.
20:48 the thing you missed is this: Enemy rumble is a jng main. Spear is a top main. Everything you just listed is something all roles (excluding the babies in bot) know about. Plus mechanic btw. From iron to pro this is just fundementos
@depressedonion9080 Yes but in the jng it's amplified times ten. Every move you make has to keep your tempo to make it to ganks, counter ganks and objectives. Whereas a laner just really has one place to go aside from when they move. Jng is for knowledge above all. Also exactly my point, the rumble was a jng main but he didn't do very good did he? If the role is braindead and easy then every jng would do good by default.
@@TyeTTRif he’s a jng main and it’s “so hard”. And “more prominent” for jng’s. How did this top laner gap him so hard? He should be more experienced with those fundemontos. At the highest level of the game, everyone is exceptional in those areas, wether it’s important to them or not. It’s important for objectives and ganks. Important to tell when and where the jng’s at and where ganks are likely to happen. The game has a skill curve for every role (except those monkeys in bot). That’s why there’s elo. So when everyone is skilled at the fundementos what do jng’s actually do? I’m not saying jng is the easiest role in the game, but like spear says, any challenger top could gap any jng main. Except bot laners. Adc’s will complain when they’re ahead, at fault, and inting.
@@depressedonion9080 Well that's just false, you can almost never guarantee someone will be somewhere. You don't know which objective he's focusing or why, if he has a ward in your bot jng and he saw your jng so now he's invading top side. I don't think I have to explain that you can never fully tell where someone is till you see them.
I believe spear is a good jungle but having enemy jungle be COMPLETELY braindead 3 whole ranks bellow you will make anyone think that the role is easy. Him having knowledge about wave states and matchups and when to best take objectives and gank is why he played well macro-wise absolutely but it is not an "easy" role it's just different. He's definitely gonna get stomped by a gm viego one trick at some point tho haha. Also if anyone wanna yap in response by saying something like "jungle copium haha" go play jungle and climb to challenger if its such as easy role then.
Well he did mention that the average skill level of junglers is one of the key factors that makes the role easier than it should be. He did give credits to the complexity and the skill ceiling of the role
@@kaies2946 I can see that and he's putting his money where his mouth is. I hope he gets there honestly and proves that it is easy so that way I might actually climb out of low elo and stop blaming my team.
Lil bro playing coin flip simulator hoping to get the better team. Sure you might a lane or 2 ahead but what if their braindead and lose their advantage first chance they get? Meanwhile youre just a roaming support with 4 cs per minute
Watching it as a jungler main is so irritating actually🤣 this brother got a brain dead rumble in his first game and thinks he’s best jungler euw. He’s gonna get his ass clapped by a gm graves
man i love Spear but lets be real with this gameplay he would never get out of Gold. Bro is beeing caried by his team and only coinfliped fights and plays. Zero consistency. No tracking and he fked his lanes over twice with bad invades. No joke if he played jungle from a silver account it would take him 500 games to reach diamond. He is a great player yes... but yeah jg is the hardest role for a reason. Every step you take must have a reason behind it and you MUST get something out of it.
The coinflip bot lane won the game lets be real, if he had lost that or his bot died before him getting there (it happens in all ranks) what then? He was just wandering like a lost soul lmao for 20 seconds trying to find something. Don't get me wrong Spear is a fantastic league player no doubt about that, but he's also playing against emerald players as a challenger and an enemy jungle who played braindead.
@@jametsu where was the coinflip? They had man advantage and even if, what kind of psychopath goes wolfes into Blue Gromp botlane as a Rumble vs the hardest early game scaling champ in the game? They would ve just needed to place a deep ward, but that might ve been on Ahri too, since I tend to do it as a midlaner. This thread is pure jungle cope and I m al for it.
@@seventyfour8256 that's a fair point you made. It was an exaggeration to call it a coinflip (I was coping). Spear has really good matchup knowledge and knew they would go for an all in early and capitalised on it and that snowballed his bot lane and team to a win because his laners were able to leverage the lead they got early and push it till the end and win. However, I am coming from a below pisslow (silver/bronze/iron) perspective where jungle feels like herding cats about and playing to get laners ahead early can feel like a guaranteed way to lose because they'll just int their lead away and now everyone's behind. I don't know what it's like to jungle in high elo so it's probably way easier because your teammates know (somewhat) how to play around you, are aware of enemy gank threats, and know how to leverage their strengths and leads. In low elo you can have the enemy jungle walk all the way through river on full vision and someone will still die. I hope Spear makes it to challenger as a jungle with 80% plus winrate because then it can mean I can stop coping and actually climb haha. Since watching this video I have realised that jungle is actually quite easy and it was just me playing bad not the role being hard.
@@seventyfour8256 it can be rather frustrating have someone flame you and call you bad and your role easy from someone who has never played the role before. It's even more frustrating, and also very humbling, to see them outperform you on that role and still call it easy haha.
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Spear NGL I'm a very positive guy and I like you very much but seeing you fail this challenge will bring me so much joy
33:50
stuff went from I griefed it to fax really fucking quick. Whilst Spea might be overexaggerating a bit, I swear there are genuinely a lot of junglers that do not know about this - all the way up to Diamond (before Emerald).
Aside from the delusional ADC, the percentage of toxic junglers is WAY higher. Like, I could count the games I ve played with genuinely chill and decent junglers on one hand and still had some fingers to spar to type Jungle Diff.
To each their own boss
😂😂😂 I know it looks and sounds like spear is taking a piss on junglers. That’s because he is. My buddy use to say support was the easiest roll, then he’d say jungle is the hardest which never made sense to me because they are sister rolls. As far as agency goes, the whole team can feel it when they are getting jungle and support diffed more than any other role.
Jungle bro mainly PVE is a funny comment, not thought of it like that xD
Jungle is just a global support. Theyre the same role. Support is mainly a single lane babysitter, jungle is an every lane babysitter but still same requirements as support. Only difference is its 50% PVE against no humans then once you’re done PVE go fight a 2v1 lmao. Only thing that literally matters is being stat checked by the other jungler and thats just a champ select diff not a diff that happens during the game.
Where is chat ?
Should've named the account ClearShot
NoShot
Day 9 for asking for chat
cleaver first kinda troll no?
He does it against Armor probably to cook tanky naut or Zac. That s why he went Eclipse and Sundered after.
He isnt good if he thinks jng is easy its the hardest role bro
If jungle is a braindead role then the enemy jungler should also have an easy win right? Never understood how people used that dumb logic. Jungle isnt about mechanics for the most part, its about macro, decision making, shot calling, map awareness, jng tracking, tempo and more map related things and i dont even main jng anymore.
20:48 the thing you missed is this: Enemy rumble is a jng main. Spear is a top main. Everything you just listed is something all roles (excluding the babies in bot) know about. Plus mechanic btw. From iron to pro this is just fundementos
@depressedonion9080 Yes but in the jng it's amplified times ten. Every move you make has to keep your tempo to make it to ganks, counter ganks and objectives. Whereas a laner just really has one place to go aside from when they move. Jng is for knowledge above all. Also exactly my point, the rumble was a jng main but he didn't do very good did he? If the role is braindead and easy then every jng would do good by default.
Ennemy jung was clearly better this game, but his botlane was terrible so he lost.
@@TyeTTRif he’s a jng main and it’s “so hard”. And “more prominent” for jng’s. How did this top laner gap him so hard? He should be more experienced with those fundemontos.
At the highest level of the game, everyone is exceptional in those areas, wether it’s important to them or not. It’s important for objectives and ganks. Important to tell when and where the jng’s at and where ganks are likely to happen. The game has a skill curve for every role (except those monkeys in bot). That’s why there’s elo.
So when everyone is skilled at the fundementos what do jng’s actually do? I’m not saying jng is the easiest role in the game, but like spear says, any challenger top could gap any jng main. Except bot laners. Adc’s will complain when they’re ahead, at fault, and inting.
@@depressedonion9080 Well that's just false, you can almost never guarantee someone will be somewhere. You don't know which objective he's focusing or why, if he has a ward in your bot jng and he saw your jng so now he's invading top side. I don't think I have to explain that you can never fully tell where someone is till you see them.
I believe spear is a good jungle but having enemy jungle be COMPLETELY braindead 3 whole ranks bellow you will make anyone think that the role is easy. Him having knowledge about wave states and matchups and when to best take objectives and gank is why he played well macro-wise absolutely but it is not an "easy" role it's just different. He's definitely gonna get stomped by a gm viego one trick at some point tho haha.
Also if anyone wanna yap in response by saying something like "jungle copium haha" go play jungle and climb to challenger if its such as easy role then.
Well he did mention that the average skill level of junglers is one of the key factors that makes the role easier than it should be. He did give credits to the complexity and the skill ceiling of the role
Jungler copium, he literally is climbing to challenger brah
@@kaies2946 I can see that and he's putting his money where his mouth is. I hope he gets there honestly and proves that it is easy so that way I might actually climb out of low elo and stop blaming my team.
Lil bro playing coin flip simulator hoping to get the better team. Sure you might a lane or 2 ahead but what if their braindead and lose their advantage first chance they get? Meanwhile youre just a roaming support with 4 cs per minute
Watching it as a jungler main is so irritating actually🤣 this brother got a brain dead rumble in his first game and thinks he’s best jungler euw. He’s gonna get his ass clapped by a gm graves
average jungler copium
jg hard copium
Average jg yapping sesh
Watch out, krugs have a deadly second phase mr jungler!
usual jungler mains
man i love Spear but lets be real with this gameplay he would never get out of Gold. Bro is beeing caried by his team and only coinfliped fights and plays. Zero consistency. No tracking and he fked his lanes over twice with bad invades. No joke if he played jungle from a silver account it would take him 500 games to reach diamond. He is a great player yes... but yeah jg is the hardest role for a reason. Every step you take must have a reason behind it and you MUST get something out of it.
The coinflip bot lane won the game lets be real, if he had lost that or his bot died before him getting there (it happens in all ranks) what then? He was just wandering like a lost soul lmao for 20 seconds trying to find something. Don't get me wrong Spear is a fantastic league player no doubt about that, but he's also playing against emerald players as a challenger and an enemy jungle who played braindead.
@@jametsu where was the coinflip?
They had man advantage and even if, what kind of psychopath goes wolfes into Blue Gromp botlane as a Rumble vs the hardest early game scaling champ in the game?
They would ve just needed to place a deep ward, but that might ve been on Ahri too, since I tend to do it as a midlaner.
This thread is pure jungle cope and I m al for it.
@@seventyfour8256 that's a fair point you made. It was an exaggeration to call it a coinflip (I was coping). Spear has really good matchup knowledge and knew they would go for an all in early and capitalised on it and that snowballed his bot lane and team to a win because his laners were able to leverage the lead they got early and push it till the end and win.
However, I am coming from a below pisslow (silver/bronze/iron) perspective where jungle feels like herding cats about and playing to get laners ahead early can feel like a guaranteed way to lose because they'll just int their lead away and now everyone's behind.
I don't know what it's like to jungle in high elo so it's probably way easier because your teammates know (somewhat) how to play around you, are aware of enemy gank threats, and know how to leverage their strengths and leads. In low elo you can have the enemy jungle walk all the way through river on full vision and someone will still die.
I hope Spear makes it to challenger as a jungle with 80% plus winrate because then it can mean I can stop coping and actually climb haha. Since watching this video I have realised that jungle is actually quite easy and it was just me playing bad not the role being hard.
@@seventyfour8256 it can be rather frustrating have someone flame you and call you bad and your role easy from someone who has never played the role before. It's even more frustrating, and also very humbling, to see them outperform you on that role and still call it easy haha.