Landing Vs Airspeed...the secret to consistency
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ม.ค. 2021
- If you are struggling, like so many pilots, to make more good landings than bad ones...this video is for you!
Fly along with us and I'll discuss why airspeed control is so much more important that almost anything else, then I'll fly 4 different approaches using different airspeeds from WAY to slow through WAY to fast!
We'll look at how you can salvage a less-than-perfect approach, and also identify when its time to hang it up, go-around and just try again!
For the longest time I couldn't get rid of that float on my short field landings. I was right on the airspeed all the way down to the numbers and I still floated. Turned out I cut the power too abruptly when the runway "was made", the airplane would pitch down and gain airspeed over the last couple of seconds before the ground effect. There you go, a 100 foot float. All I had to do to fix it is reduce the power more smoothly and pull back a little as I was doing it. The entire concept described in this video applies equally well to those last moments just before touching down.
Cool. You on 300 hours at the time of this?
@@pilotactor777 I am now...
If I turned final art 50kts, my instructor would lose his mind. But, great info. Thanks
I just discovered this video and it is one of the best I've seen. The same is true for your video on trimming. Of course, when I went to your channel to subscribe I was very disappointed to find that new videos have not been posted in a very long time. So I just wanted to say that I hope all is well with you and your family, and I hope to see more videos in the future. Thanks again.
Make another aviation training video! Your stuff is some of the best I’ve seen on all of TH-cam. Lots of content packed into perfect 20 min clip. How about on some instrument flying?
This is an excellent explanation, but I was totally distracted--and distressed--that you were doing it while taxiing the airplane. I had to minimize my browser and just listen.
Really helpful video. The other one on trim was outstanding
Shoo....I'm a commercial student and I still struggle with nailing landings from time to time. Keep hustling y'all
I am a rusty CFI just getting back into the cockpit after about 20 years on the ground. Though I know the steps, seeing this as a ride along (without the editing), made all the difference in THINKING my landings. Now they are a lot smooooother, Thanks
Great free lesson, thanks so much as this helps put things into perspective for the C182 and SR22 that I fly, both with quite different landing characteristics. Hugely appreciated and I recommend this video to anyone with landing doubts!
Good video, subscribed! I also have a 182, and I use 20 flaps myself most of the time. However I think I need to slow down a bit, as I usually cross the numbers at 80mph and float sometimes. My home airport is 3500ft, so not too long. Keep the good 182 content coming!
Am really glad I found this video cus this is what I've been having a problem with and the best explanation I've had and demonstration. Have 15 hrs and really struggling with this. Thank you so much!
Great trim and landing vid. We love them.
Hands down one of the best explanations and demonstrations. I’m getting started and have a much better understanding. I don’t see many videos from you but hope you do many more like this. The trim video was amazing too. Keep them coming!
I second this. More please
Wow, awesome explanation with demonstration. Thank you!
Wow! Best flight lesson I ever had on the ground!
This was a great video, can’t wait to go out and try these skills. Currently working on my PPL and stuck at the end of stage 1 due to traffic pattern and landings. Thanks for this vid.
A masterclass, thank you.
I wish I had a CFI explain this the way you have. I am in the process of buying a 182 and this was an amazing refresher.
Great Video......Well done
Excellent CFI skills sir👍🏿👍🏿✈🙏🏿
Thanks for the great video, very informative!
Awesome and very informative.
Superbly done 👍
Great video. Thanks!
Best landing video. Thank you.
This was an excellent video that demonstrates not only how to manage energy during landing but how safe it is to operate at these airspeeds over the ground. I feel the later, as you said early on, CFI's drill faster airspeed approaches into their students to increase margin of safety but it forms bad landing habits and makes precision harder.
During the last hours of getting my license I somehow developed a habit of making long landings. The airfield I was training at only has a 400m/1300ft strip so that was a problem. Apparently I was setting my aiming point on the threshold instead of the grass field right before the runway, where you should actually start your flare. Additionally, the standard procedure here is an approach speed of 60kts with full flaps (using C172's).
After some of these "incidents" I got paired with an instructor I hadn't met before and he reminded me that recommended approach speed was 1,3 times Vso. He even looked it up in the POH what the stall speed with full flaps in this particular aircraft was (it was 33kts). So you could do your approach with 43kts and 60 was actually way too fast.
Before, I was really primed to not getting below 60kts on approach but he helped me to fix my aiming point and he showed me that it's OK and actually better to have less than 60kts when starting the flare.
Great information thanks. Am sure it will help me with landing.
Excellent stuff bro
Really great videos. This video and the one about how to trim a 182 are some of the best I’ve seen. Would be great to see a video on the canard and how it changes the flight characteristics of your 182.
Thanks! I'll see if I can make that happen for you guys!
Very nice information sir.
I really wish I had a CFI like you man. God damn
Very well explained and demonstrated thank you! Does your daughter just love being in the air, or is it more of a chore? She seemed quiet yet engaged.
Great video! What do you think about apply flaps during a turn? Thanks!
Good!
Interesting and valuable concept - never saw a model plane used in-cockpit to illustrate the curriculum.Also, if it is not a checklist item- do you make it a personal mandate to lock and double check the seat tracks ??
Mil IP as well as CFI/CFII/MEI…. Great instruction! However those super slow approaches made me nervous. If you lost that engine on final you would have zero chance to recover.
Different technique but when flying my 182, I prefer a nearly power off/on speed approach from the perch, always on profile to make the runway. Granted, it requires frequent practice to remain proficient. The downside is that it requires a tighter downwind/base which isn’t always optimal in a civilian traffic pattern.
So many ppl will blame it on the "ground effect" when it's actually all about speed.
We could also say it’s energy, drag or lift. Honestly though all those things are factors
Great explanation and video, many CFI's in my log book and I learned more with your videos! Keep producing them! Are you a CFII by any chance?
Yes, CFI, CFII and also MEI
Excellent videos..very good and practical. Would appreciate your comment on this approach that seems to work well and ties this video into your earlier trim video. For a stable approach: on the downwind set speed at 90 and adjust trim accordingly; at the numbers add the first notch of flaps and adjust power for descent; base - the second notch and on final the third notch. However, once the trim is set on downwind no further trim is made and the first flap gets you to mid 80's; the second notch on base 70's and the third notch on final gets you to the mid 60's. So once you start the sequence at the numbers you only need to adjust altitude with power. The speeds take care of themselves with the flap setting. No additional trimming is necessary.
Would this simple procedure work with your landing scheme? Just keeping it simple.
Looking forward to more videos.
I must have missed it, but for reference to the other airspeeds what was the Vs0 cas as you were configured?
That Cessna that taxi’d past you must have been working for southwest
Nice explanation but why on earth does it have to be while taxiing and with the bad acoustics via the intercom??? Nice panel btw!
500 hrs I admit I carry extra airspeed as a “ buffer” I won’t anymore after seeing this
Wonder what the airspeed reading on that other "taxiing" plane was...
Great video, although I wish you didn't switch to the outside camera.
NEAR THE END… “That felt so good, I want to do one more….”.. (So did I)..Ha Ha…
Why turn off the landing light so soon, especially while remaining in the pattern?
Great video - appreciate the demonstrations of a slow flight landing. I have a T 182T and was taught to always land with full flaps. The POH suggests 20-full. Curious under what conditions you use full flaps in a landing, just for reference?
Hi Casey,
Well, adding full flaps produces more drag, but very little extra lift. So there is only a very small difference in the stall speed between flaps at 20 and full flaps. So unless I need to bleed off some extra speed or I need to make a steep approach I typically plan for flaps 20 in my own approaches!
Thanks for watching
Always use full flaps? You aren’t the only one I seen on TH-cam who was taught that. Seems very strange and not good advice to me. My personal experience is little to no flaps on very strong crosswinds made for better landings. Not really understanding this obsession with flaps on landings no matter the conditions.
Man I always airspeed up
That taxi length...........
Years ago when I learned to fly in a 152 my flight instructor would never let me fly final less than 60 kts. I fly a ‘67 182 and fly final at 80 mph now which equals a 70 kt final. I don’t cut power in the flair as I used to in the 152 but usually before crossing the threshold, sometimes well before. I can’t see flying final less than 75 mph. You fly yours way too slow in my opinion. You’re right on the edge and since you fly so much you are probably used to it. Kinda of sketchy.
Daughter's like "yawwwwn... yeah... no clue what you're going on about!"
So much for a sterile cockpit!
The address of your school pl
Does he make you nervous making this video while taxiing, or is it just me?
K.I.S.S ?
If this needs to be specially explained it means that the basic training level is horribly low...
I got a question Mr CFI; who is steering the airplane. Under FAR 121 operations, this guy violates the "Sterile Cockpit" rule. I think it would be better if this was discussed prior to engine start - in any operation. I'm shocked
Hey Ted D...
Is there any particular specific Part 121 regulation that applies to this flight that you’d like to quote?
Since this is actually a part 91 flight, there is no such thing a “violating a sterile cockpit” and if there were, it would be quite impossible to give any instruction, wouldn’t it?
Also, most of my students are taught from the beginning that we “control” the direction of the Airplane on the ground with our feet on the rudder pedals...
But I’m guessing that an aviator of your obvious skill and stature already knew that?
@@nerdsofflight7294 Of course not. I think though, GA pilots should consider sterile cockpit rule to enhance ground safety. I have no complaints with what the CFI was saying but that discussion is better served on the ground in a classroom environment before climbing into an airplane
K ,I you can’t say anything constructive don’t say anything at all
How to say, “1.3 times Vso” using 50,000 words or more.
This video is extremely irresponsible and gets the main point wrong: when you are taxing, TAXI! You should focus on controlling the airplane, talking to ATC or monitoring a CTAF.
Don't attempt to also make a video, play with toy airplanes, etc. This information isn't so critical that you have to deliver it while you taxing for take off. You should know that most aircraft incidents occur ON THE GROUND.
Also, if you don't have enough time and patience to dedicate your entire attention to making this video, don't do it at all. There are plenty of other videos about this topic.
There is a reason they don't let you hold phone while you drive - its dangerous and distracts from mission-critical task of operating dangerous machinery.
You're supposed to pay attention while taxiing! 🤔
Who said I wasn’t?
Beautiful area.
Too much idle chitchat on the radio I thought you probably would know better than that.
Any chance you’re a CFI? I think I can spot a good instructor when I see one.. would be willing to pay for a lesson 🫡👍 (serious btw)