Walther is no joke! I have many Walther's. I've shot a Staccato P & Walther SF and personally they're both different in a good way. Staccato feels as if you're not shooting a gun. That's how smooth it is. Walther feels like your shooting a gun with weight.
Springco makes trigger springs for the Walther PDP and ZR Tactical makes a long stroke spring for the match making it a super flat gun. Between my 2011 and my pdp there my favorite 2 pistols to shoot and carry.
Of course the Staccato is flatter--its ported lol If you really wanna do this test you need to do it with both guns ported or neither gun ported and instead of measuring splits do hit factor scoring. If a gun is capable of great splits it doesn't matter if you can't nail the A zone. I understand though, Staccato's don't exactly grow on trees and this was the only one you had access to. I'd like to get one tbh. Now that they announced a Glock mag version I might just wait for that one since its so expensive. The fact that it takes Glock mags makes the gun significantly less expensive. The 2011 mags are like $60-80 a pop and some even cost $100 if you get Atlas mags. Absolutely ridiculous tbh.
@@armorers_wrench yeah great points, however the purpose of the video is to show that even though the Staccato is ported the PDP can still match it, even with different shooters.
I have that Walther PDP, I'm not entirely sure I'm comfortable with a pistol that shoots faster than the PDP. At some point it's like resolution on a flat screen TV, at some point it's irrelevant due to human biology and limitation. I shoot decent fast, nothing really to be that proud of or youtube worthy, and that PDP shoots way faster than I do. I added a brass backstrap and it's super flat and fast, anything better speaking for myself is just a waste of technology and money.
A more even match would’ve been the PDP Match Steel Frame VS the Staccato P. The PDP Match trigger weight is usually 4.5lbs-5lbs. The stock recoil spring isn’t 15lbs. It’s 18.6-18.9lbs. Just wanted to throw that in for anyone who might be curious. Great video though!
To date I have not seen a significant difference in split times between X5 TXG , S2 SAO or 2011s . I'm faster out of the holster with X5 but the S2 is much smoother and easy to maintain control when shooting at speed . I can shoot 18 to 20 splits pretty consistently while maintaining accuracy with all 3 . Ultimately I shoot CZ S2 SAO the best all around so that's what I went with and sold the other two . I really only shoot S2 SAO , SP01 SAO or Glock Pattern Pistols . I have not payed attention to split times with Glock in a while but I'd bet it's pretty freaking close to the S2 .
Staccato bro needs a better grip. What I find shooting really nice guns is it lets you slack off, but if you train hard and program in the right grip you can get even more advantage with the nice guns, its just easy to fall back into bad habits.
That 2lb trigger is way too light. I have an XC that is supposed to be 2.5 pounds but my trigger gauge measures it at just under 2 lbs. It is scary light. There is no staging that trigger; if you touch it, it's going off.
@@TACTICALROMANIA it does but what I learned about shooting my XC is, you can't stage the trigger during the draw or mid presentation to the target. You can only put your hands on the trigger in the moment you want to fire the gun, otherwise you're going to ND a round. Happened to me about three times but thankfully the gun was pointed down range towards the target. My trigger is hairpin light.
Walther is no joke! I have many Walther's. I've shot a Staccato P & Walther SF and personally they're both different in a good way. Staccato feels as if you're not shooting a gun. That's how smooth it is. Walther feels like your shooting a gun with weight.
Springco makes trigger springs for the Walther PDP and ZR Tactical makes a long stroke spring for the match making it a super flat gun. Between my 2011 and my pdp there my favorite 2 pistols to shoot and carry.
That's awesome! Thanks for the tip.
Of course the Staccato is flatter--its ported lol
If you really wanna do this test you need to do it with both guns ported or neither gun ported and instead of measuring splits do hit factor scoring. If a gun is capable of great splits it doesn't matter if you can't nail the A zone.
I understand though, Staccato's don't exactly grow on trees and this was the only one you had access to. I'd like to get one tbh. Now that they announced a Glock mag version I might just wait for that one since its so expensive. The fact that it takes Glock mags makes the gun significantly less expensive. The 2011 mags are like $60-80 a pop and some even cost $100 if you get Atlas mags. Absolutely ridiculous tbh.
@@armorers_wrench yeah great points, however the purpose of the video is to show that even though the Staccato is ported the PDP can still match it, even with different shooters.
Low ready? 'Points pretty much to target' 😂
@@keimolantio You like to point at toes?
I had the exact same thoughts.
To be honest I’m not surprised. Neither one of these dude can shoot very well.
Its the Indian not the arrow.
@@UponGiantsShoulders 💪💪💪
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I have that Walther PDP, I'm not entirely sure I'm comfortable with a pistol that shoots faster than the PDP. At some point it's like resolution on a flat screen TV, at some point it's irrelevant due to human biology and limitation. I shoot decent fast, nothing really to be that proud of or youtube worthy, and that PDP shoots way faster than I do. I added a brass backstrap and it's super flat and fast, anything better speaking for myself is just a waste of technology and money.
A more even match would’ve been the PDP Match Steel Frame VS the Staccato P.
The PDP Match trigger weight is usually 4.5lbs-5lbs. The stock recoil spring isn’t 15lbs. It’s 18.6-18.9lbs. Just wanted to throw that in for anyone who might be curious.
Great video though!
Steelframe Walther ported woulda been champ
@@zubairloonat3248 Absolutely! And, would cost maybe $2500 for it?
@RATactics not at all, check out Monsoon Tactical and his Lucky 7 ports. Easily under $ 1600 after the ports including the gun
There is no striker fire gun that will compete with a Staccato
@@Oldmanjustice there are many that compete lol
@@backcountryenduro4790 it's like he forgot about the shadow 2 😂
Nice video,you should compare PDP match steel frame with staccato, furthermore install long steel guide rod on PDP.
To date I have not seen a significant difference in split times between X5 TXG , S2 SAO or 2011s .
I'm faster out of the holster with X5 but the S2 is much smoother and easy to maintain control when shooting at speed .
I can shoot 18 to 20 splits pretty consistently while maintaining accuracy with all 3 .
Ultimately I shoot CZ S2 SAO the best all around so that's what I went with and sold the other two .
I really only shoot S2 SAO , SP01 SAO or Glock Pattern Pistols .
I have not payed attention to split times with Glock in a while but I'd bet it's pretty freaking close to the S2 .
What holster are you using for the PDP MATCH
@@WillH-y3g It’s Safariland, unsure of the model number off the top of my head. But you can find it in the “holster finder” of the website
Hell Yeah Fellas
Yeah buddy!!!
I’ll take one of each!
I always think it’s funny when someone who always shoots comped and ported once they shoot an uncompensated gun they fall apart.
@@garrettfordham4537 I wouldn’t say that he fell apart at all.
Fell apart? Bro was never together
@ he should go back to the “fundamentals “ and get good with a non compensated Glock 34x
I’m assuming you are the pro in the comments section Garrett thanks for the input I will jot notes down
@ lol I can throw down some pretty solid numbers man thanks. I got 3rd at my last match in CO. Not a pro I can just tell your a novice.
I will keepnrocking pdps and developing skill
Staccato bro needs a better grip. What I find shooting really nice guns is it lets you slack off, but if you train hard and program in the right grip you can get even more advantage with the nice guns, its just easy to fall back into bad habits.
I agree! I’ll work on it because u told me to
That walther PDP does have a solid factory trigger tho but the staccato with the 2lb trigger is 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, can't argue that at all!
That 2lb trigger is way too light. I have an XC that is supposed to be 2.5 pounds but my trigger gauge measures it at just under 2 lbs. It is scary light. There is no staging that trigger; if you touch it, it's going off.
@@POPJack1717I love that ! Helps stay more on target
@@TACTICALROMANIA it does but what I learned about shooting my XC is, you can't stage the trigger during the draw or mid presentation to the target. You can only put your hands on the trigger in the moment you want to fire the gun, otherwise you're going to ND a round. Happened to me about three times but thankfully the gun was pointed down range towards the target. My trigger is hairpin light.
@@POPJack1717 seems like ur sub 2, with more training it gets easy to me no misfires have hapoened
A $600 Canik Rival gets the job done, so I knew Walther was going to handle business.
God that Walther PDP is such an awful gun to shoot.
Eh...it might be a you problem.
I will admit that the grip texture is ass. It wears out very quickly.
Not much difference if anything How about that hood does that hood help you shoot or just look ridiculous
Yes it does, it makes me feel like robin 🥰