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This was the exact video ive been waiting for someone to make.

There really isn't a significant difference in modern pistols in terms of split times. It really comes down to ergonomics and just what feels better

A more even match would’ve been the PDP Match Steel Frame VS the Staccato P. The PDP Match trigger weight is usually 4.5lbs-5lbs. The stock recoil spring isn’t 15lbs. It’s 18.6-18.9lbs. Just wanted to throw that in for anyone who might be curious. Great video though!

Nice video,you should compare PDP match steel frame with staccato, furthermore install long steel guide rod on PDP.

Low ready? 'Points pretty much to target' 😂

Not much difference if anything How about that hood does that hood help you shoot or just look ridiculous

the user, next question

God that Walther PDP is such an awful gun to shoot.

To date I have not seen a significant difference in split times between X5 TXG , S2 SAO or 2011s . I'm faster out of the holster with X5 but the S2 is much smoother and easy to maintain control when shooting at speed . I can shoot 18 to 20 splits pretty consistently while maintaining accuracy with all 3 . Ultimately I shoot CZ S2 SAO the best all around so that's what I went with and sold the other two . I really only shoot S2 SAO , SP01 SAO or Glock Pattern Pistols . I have not payed attention to split times with Glock in a while but I'd bet it's pretty freaking close to the S2 .

I will keepnrocking pdps and developing skill

Walther is no joke! I have many Walther's. I've shot a Staccato P & Walther SF and personally they're both different in a good way. Staccato feels as if you're not shooting a gun. That's how smooth it is. Walther feels like your shooting a gun with weight.

I’ll take one of each!

I have that Walther PDP, I'm not entirely sure I'm comfortable with a pistol that shoots faster than the PDP. At some point it's like resolution on a flat screen TV, at some point it's irrelevant due to human biology and limitation. I shoot decent fast, nothing really to be that proud of or youtube worthy, and that PDP shoots way faster than I do. I added a brass backstrap and it's super flat and fast, anything better speaking for myself is just a waste of technology and money.

A $600 Canik Rival gets the job done, so I knew Walther was going to handle business.

Its the Indian not the arrow.

Staccato bro needs a better grip. What I find shooting really nice guns is it lets you slack off, but if you train hard and program in the right grip you can get even more advantage with the nice guns, its just easy to fall back into bad habits.

What holster are you using for the PDP MATCH

I always think it’s funny when someone who always shoots comped and ported once they shoot an uncompensated gun they fall apart.

Of course the Staccato is flatter--its ported lol If you really wanna do this test you need to do it with both guns ported or neither gun ported and instead of measuring splits do hit factor scoring. If a gun is capable of great splits it doesn't matter if you can't nail the A zone. I understand though, Staccato's don't exactly grow on trees and this was the only one you had access to. I'd like to get one tbh. Now that they announced a Glock mag version I might just wait for that one since its so expensive. The fact that it takes Glock mags makes the gun significantly less expensive. The 2011 mags are like $60-80 a pop and some even cost $100 if you get Atlas mags. Absolutely ridiculous tbh.

Springco makes trigger springs for the Walther PDP and ZR Tactical makes a long stroke spring for the match making it a super flat gun. Between my 2011 and my pdp there my favorite 2 pistols to shoot and carry.

That walther PDP does have a solid factory trigger tho but the staccato with the 2lb trigger is 🔥🔥🔥

Steelframe Walther ported woulda been champ

Hell Yeah Fellas

Get the glock store pyramid trigger its amazing

Super impressive shooting but that’s a big ass A zone isn’t it?

I did a laser bore sight with the aems for a 36 yard zero at 10 yards, which should be 1 7/8 apart. I can roughly get that. But if it bump the gun with hand the red dot jumps from where it was. Anything I am missing? Why would it do this?

What gun are you running?

You should add some movement to these standards

Yes, I’m thinking I’m back 😂

This guy can shoot… lol

Y'all caught a sub off this video alone. You guys and Achilles Heel Tactical are amazing. AHT is more geared towards carrying a gun professionally/combatively whereas I get the vibe you guys cater more towards your competition / EDC shooter with the way y'all talk through stuff. This belt system + AHT's ManCard drills are genuinely some pretty good standards to hold from both ends of the plate. Love it.

I think you meant the other way around: Belt Ranking Test Requirements (From the Holster-Retention or AIWB, No Alibis-Malfunction Exemption, "A" Zone Only, 100% to Pass) (ADD .10 FOR LEVEL 3 HOLSTER, SUBTRACT .10 FOR OPEN HOLSTER):

Is this with a level 3 holster or just a level 2

Solid drill, solid instructor! Find you an instructor that can actually explain the drill & also perform the drill at a high standard. Richie at Ra Tactics is just that!

If you buy a staccato you probably wear a bicycle helmet while driving in your car.

Glock works everytime 😉

Great video. Thanks for the great instructions.

Get your finger off the trigger

How is it still holding up? Curious how well it handles muddy and sandy and cold environments and how reliable it actually is since it’s a budget ar15

Interesting. The P is pushing you rearward more than the Glock

loved this content

Aaron Cowan from Sage dynamics has put multiple Holosuns through the grinder aka his beat down testing and they have proven to last and maintain zero after his torture testing.

I have all my glocks set up to run with any firearm on the market. Competition or carry. Its all in the shooter.

Why not use a laser bore sight to zero them in?

Seems like the American way is magdumb up to 10 meters. Literally all youtubers do that. Next big thing is shooting big metal plate at 100 yards. I am oldie so accuracy plays bigger point than just really really fast magdumb. In Finland all men/females are trained to be fast and accurate. No magdumps trained even with pistols.

Stock Glocks are every bit as good as High Point Yeet Cannons.

I have always found such videos most amusing. Yes, by all means, let's compare the sub $1K striker fired weapon to multiple, single action 2011's, the cheapest of which is a minimum of 2.5 times as expensive, that are either partially or completely hand-made. You are correct; the shooter will make the gun...to a point. A shooter of equal skill WITH EACH PARTICULAR WEAPON will absolutely shoot better, faster and more accurately with the 2011's. Of course, someone highly skilled with the Glock can also absolutely out shoot a lesser shooter with one of the 2011's, but the comparison itself just seems pointless...but potentially fun. Especially when we consider that if one is idiot enough to carry a $2500+, hand built pistol as a duty weapon, he can also certainly afford $100 or less to have the 1.5 lb trigger (that's what my comp 2011's are set to) on that beautiful Limited gun reset to a 4.5 - 5.0 lb trigger, so dismissing that weapon based on trigger pull also makes no sense to me. But, based solely on an 'as they come' basis, I get it. But, as you noted, I'm sure this video was fun to shoot, as it was fun to watch, too.

Please be careful ! Staccato’s are NOT DROP SAFE!

I think competition among gun manufacturers is great for all off us, that being said I will stick with GLOCK. I competed with a stock 34 gen 3 except for a fiber optic front sight. I used the stock rear sight and used it for 4 years. I have a lot of spare mags and parts for it. I replaced the RSA every 5k. After all the trigger time on a Glock everything else feels odd.

1911s/2011s/Shadow 2 for me all day. Glocks are good pistols, I used to shoot them in IPSC. But, these days I just find polymer frame striker fired pistols kinda bland and boring and I'm going back more to steel frame hammer fired pistols and also revolvers.