Billie Jean: Surprisingly Difficult on Drums?
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I've played the drums for almost 20 years by now, and I still get so immersed in these "Drumming 101" lessons, especially when the lesson is so cleanly explained like this video. You always have to remember the basics.
I know the early teen me would have loved this video too.
Agreed!! Remaining teachable is how you become an amazing musician. You're never done learning!! 🤘😝
Great breakdown. I like this style of presentation from you! It's less Tik-Tok-y, less sass, but very accessible. Thanks!
Agreed!
I do as well. Less bullshitty.
She is a great teacher...I enjoy her short video clips...I have learned a ton ! Thank you.😎🥁🤘
One thing to note: Your drums sound fantastic! Love the tuning, the musical sound and the grooves.
PLEASE keep this up. I've learned SO much since I started following this channel!
The key is to slowly but clearly speed up and slow down your tempo at random times throughout the song. This is why the song is such a hit.
hi hun. thanks for all these vids. the way you show hot to do things ,especially with the letters above ,make it more easy to learn.
I love the long form, quirky-English-lady-teaches-drums nature of this video. You are a ledge. Love you. Love your videos.
Nice teaching style. I’m a guitar player who started playing drums by myself like 8 years ago, so the basic groove is a basic groove, but you definitely make it all relatable. Mostly I like your 5 minute timer tho…. I got a lotta grooves I can do for about a minute and a half…lol
You’ve got some other stuff that looks interesting, I subbed.
Thanks
Tres bon, love the content and presentation of this video. Sitting in the pocket and resisting the temptation to hurtle round the toms every 4 bars is a really importatn lesson and you've done it brilliantly. Great choice of song to demonstrate. I've always heard it (and played it) as pushing the kick ahead ever so slightly, while staying in tempo. Oh, and your advice on how to stick the fills - excellent. (As a lefty playing right-hand kit open, I have it easy, just moving across to play floor with right and snare with left :-) Great videos - you got a new subscriber.
Would love to see you play “ Rubber Band Man” - A Mowtown classic by the Spinners
On of my favorite grooves!
For someone who gets 'easily bored' with repetition and 'sitting in the groove' - merely playing the identical and simple (but precise) pattern for 5! minutes will be a huge challenge. d'oh .. .Love your instructional style! thanks again.
Larry Mullen Jr is a drummer who always uses a floor tom on his left side, using a similar "ka-boom" fill on "Pride" for instance, or another one on the live version of "With or Without You" (Rattle and Hum era) which would be more difficult with the floor tom on the right, especially as regards snare hits consistency I suppose.
I don't play drums, but I enjoy watching your lessons. I love your accent, and when you sing I melt like butter in the sun. thank you!
I had an instructor who said that the art of good drumming is to do simple things exceptionally well every time
This seems to be a good example of that
Kind of like Thunderstruck on bass. Just play B in 8th notes, for 83 bars. Or U2 With or Without You, mostly a nice little 4 bar phrasing, that repeats 23 times. Real easy to get sloppy, and very lost if you’re not paying attention.
It wasn't Sugarfoot on 1:45 drums...it was Ndugu.
New follower here! finally someone who coaches brilliantly and doesn't annoy me.
I love how you are able to provide coaching and instruction for the early learner without indulging a "show-off" session of your own advanced skills. The latter has always been (and is still) my least favorite thing about TH-cam "tutorial" videos.
I think it is these simple songs that inspire new drummers to stay at it. What I forget, is that each time I learn a full song, I should totally write it down, no matter how simple that I think it is. This way I will see that I know a lot more songs than I think I do. Whether it is something I would ever be asked to play or not. Whether or not it is a genre I would ever play. Because I admit I have played genres for the money, and/or exposure that I never thought I would do. I enjoyed how this lesson was explained and I watched the whole thing even though I was hoping there was something actually surprisingly difficult. The teacher held my attention all the way through and gave players no bad information at all. Not too much or too little, shows the whole song, not over explaining, also a great vibe, not so overly enthusiastic or loud like other people I have seen. We all should be proud of the drummers on youtube, because the guitar lessons are so bad.
I'm loving these videos. I've been a crap drummer for 50 years. I'm about to have an operation on both my shoulders. Once I'm over that I'll be signing up for your courses.
Good luck with your operation! I look forward to working with you 😊
If you watch Jonathan Moffett play this, they're pretty much all hard rim shots. I just cannot play solid clean rim shots consistantly.
I think this ist very complicated and needs a lot practice. Keep in mind that nobody could play anything from the first moment. I'm sure Jonathan Moffett also needed a lot of practice for this.
Rim shots to me are the life blood of a good groove to get into and only change the texture of the beat without changing the beat. Learn them till they become second nature and soon you’ll be able to pull them out only as a great accent. Then you can learn to play them w both hands for a real nicely mixed up groove Buddy rich style
This is not Jonathan Moffett. He wasn't on Thriller. It was Leon "Ndugu" Chancler for Billie Jean.
@@TheHominidShow Fair enough, I guess I read it as all the other comments on this video saying it was Sugarfoot who played on the actual recording.
@@michaelbinbc That could be. I watched Moffett play it on Drumeo.
She is just so down to earth and lovely to hear! Listen to her and you'll learn to play the skins! Love her so much!
This is such good stuff! I give lessons in a few instruments as well as play. And one of my main points is to LISTEN FIRST no matter what you're on. And I find the sparser parts seem to be much harder for people to get tight. As mainly a bassist, my main goal along with being a support player, is to LISTEN to how the drummer interprets the beat so I can match my notes as closely to theirs as possible. The more musicians in a group who listen first and try to match each other, usually the tighter the sound. That's why some great musicians aren't necessarily virtuosos. But they can interpret what they need out of the music and use what they are capable of to present it in a moving way.
Excellent song to explain "in the pocket" to new drummers. Sharp, clean, accurate, tight, and perfectly in-time.
I'm not having a kit for quite a while now and look into what other people do. I find it enjoyable to see problems I never had. My skills are top notch also at my failures 😅
You should watch how Sugarfoot does it on Drumeo. That was a very great lecture on how to make a drum machine loop into a drumset partiture.
I'm impressed how you manage to be logical when you're counting, it's natural. Like when you play and you show it, it's a real game-changer compared to other more painful and indigestible videos. Have you ever thought about going back to ragae for Chanlenge?
Love your videos! But I thought Billie Jean was renowned as the first song to feature the Linn Drum drum machine providing the main groove. Is this not the case?
What people call ( the pocket) or ( the groove) is how you able to manage the dynamic of your playing thats why Billy jean or even some most famous AC/DC song from Phil Rudd on drums are so hard to nailed it, it's not even a matter ot speed but how hard and light you hit your drums with accuracy , it's one of the most important thing to master and listen to your bass player and being in phase with it is important too...
' I Like You; Your A Fantastic Teacher; Please Keep Up The Great Work That Your Doing'. X.
Check out Jonathan " Sugar Foot" Moffett play it on DRUMEO. It's simpler than you think. It's more of a feel than a constant thought.
I really like how your kit sounds. Are those acoustic tiles behind you?
Ndugu Chanceller, the drummer on this track was proof that you can take a basic goove and make it sound wonderful. I spoke many times to Ndugu about this song, and he told me that you have to serve the song. I love this groove, and I am a progressive metal drummer! Cheers
oh I thought it was Sugarfoot Moffet who played it.
He also told me that he did it alone and after everybody. I found that very sad. Actually I find Sugarfoot playing in the movie This Is It much more enjoyable and organic.
Another hi-hat drumming practice, the song Fame from David Bowie. That's a fun hi-hat drumming sound
may i suggest that in the lesson at around 4:50 - 4:59 you recommend to the student that the 'e' also be said/thought out (despite that no note is played on it) -for the sake of maintaining tempo.
Please please please mention the genius of the drummer himself who is Ndugu Chancler. Respect and regards...
Billie Jean is like most AC/DC tunes, the groove seems simple, but finding the pocket is deceptive and challenging.
Med-I-tat-ive. 8th notes. :-) Another excellent lesson, in my case, for a non-drummer who is all about groove. And MJ is The King.
Similarly for the bass part, i.e. it's a simple riff with easy fretting but tremendously difficult to get the right groove and keep it going.
I just saw a video of mr Moffet himself playing it and he also does the passing of the left hand underneath.
Love your teachings thank you
hey, as a girl myself, u inspired me to do drumming and made me believe that its not weird for girls to like drumming, keep up the good work :)
Great lesson Emma 😃
that beat was actually the first i was tough to play by my teacher back when i played the drums with a simple fill 1 snare 1 rag tom 1 rag tom 1 floor tom
Gosh darn. For the first three minutes of this video I was thinking this was Smooth Criminal. Needless to say I was THOROUGHLY confused 😂. Great teaching though, love it!
I have played professionally (tuba) since 1985. I have been with my symphony orchestra for thirty years now. I have sat on many audition committees. The one piece that gets used to weed out poseurs in the first round of tuba auditions ALWAYS is the Overture from "Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg" (Wagner). It is all quarter notes and eighth notes. Only players with their shit together will realize that this seemingly simple line will sound like garbage unless the players subdivides like mad in their head as they play, or the time will wander all over the place. People advance at auditions because they have impeccable fundamentals. For a set drummer, simple grooves like "Billie Jean" are what will embarrass you on stage if you do not take them super seriously. Unless you are a bad musician.
Emma...I've been playing for nearly 60 years and am self-taught, but have had some lessons along the way. Your style of instruction and technique is superb and I get A LOT out of watching all your videos. YOU are my instructor now! Thanks for doing these! (I love your humor!)
Love the channel and I am not even a drummer! It was that magic name Phil Collins which steered my unto you supercool channel, thanks from Norway
At last an excellent woman drum teacher excellent technique and her teaching style is excellent.
I always wanted to learn to play drums properly. But watching a couple videos on that subject, I must say, I don't think I ever gonna get around to that.
Please! Play the groove at the beginning…to get us inspired and know what we’re going for.
She did. There is just talking over it as well. 😅
Excellent breakdown! Thank you ❤
ANY thing by Jonathon Moffet is hard to nail.
Drummer on the album track was Ndugu Chancler.
Haha, I find it funny, that El Estepario makes things look easy, /I know it's something else entirely/, but with you breaking things down masterfully makes things look incredibly hard.;))
I'm not a musician just an enjoyer of music related things.
Happy 2024!
Good for you girl. This is real world stuff that will help beginner players. Too much show playing on the internet that will never work in the real world.
love ur humor and sass i hope u have a job teaching kids and beginners, cuz ur a natural girl cheers to u
Billy Jean was taught to me as a beginner in my first ever drum lesson. However, playing it to perfection is not at all simple.
Thanks!
Thank you so much!!
you’re a good teacher!
What did you mean by “a whip”?
Love it. I am almost 60 and so wish I’d had you to teach me when I learned drums as a teenager. B
I'm 65 and just got back into playing drums (and also mallet keyboard) after not playing for 45 years while being too busy with "real life". Now retired, I'm amazed at how some hard work has quickly brought me beyond my formerly-decent skills, but I was never great then and am not great now. Like you, I'm envious of the online resources available to today's new drummers, and she explains many things really well. Regarding new drummers that are learning nowadays, I see lots and lots of kids who are far better than what the "really good" drummers were back in my day, and I'm sure that a big part of that is the better learning environment of today.
do you have lessons to play along with the music on different levels? that make you feel and hear the music? I think you can teach that on a great way
like all of your videos
Sugarfoot is a man-metronome hybrid with dynamics, groove and showmanship all at once. Straight up genious
Using a Metronome is a MUST!
New to your content.
Love it 👍🏽
Once again, beautiful video.
Billy Jean has a unique tempo. I have played this song many times live...it MUST be played at original tempo; anything other than original destroys the feel. Hi-hat ostinato must be clean and each note the same dynamic...cheers from Sunny Australia.
Thank you Emma
I just watched the original drummer do this song on Drumeo and it looks like he's hitting the floor tom underhand with the left hand as well
Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffet is NOT the original drummer
Thank a lot !
Love the video! You have a new subscriber!
2:19 A "doddle"? Just learned a new word today! 😊
Great breakdown, really not a simple as it seems. Thanks for this, Jeff Pocaro is my all-time fave drummer.
Jeff Porcaro didn't play this. It was Leon "Ndugu" Chancler, overdubbing a drum machine...
@@andrewfrechtman6536 that’s what I was told, if my information is wrong apologies
@@andrewfrechtman6536 I got to play jazz with Ndugu once. Around 2014 I think. Good times. R.I.P.
Not correcting you, God knows I'm no expert. But I always thought the kick was four on the floor for this?
I'm far from being a brilliant drummer but from the title i was hoping something tricky to be played. Is the title intention to reveal it is actually difficult or just irony? ...couldn´t determine the real intention
It's bringing attention to how the simple things take a lot of attention to get right
hi! make record of your drum line according to your explaination with only original bass line and we will see will you explanation be workable or there is something else!
John Robinson
What kit is that?
Great tips for this groove🥁
Nice Crisp Hats. What are they?
The kick can happen with the snare! Watch Sugarfoot!
A great explanation 👌
Love your teaching ❤
Hi there, if you get time, check out "MJ'S" Drummer, "Sugarfoot" he will show you how it's played! But you're doing good! 🥁🎵🎶🖤👊
Could you teach me how to play Hot Rod Lincoln (commander Cody version ?
I absolutely love your voice ❤️
Jonathan Moffett. SO Good. (And I am from the Rock Era.)
He did not play drums on Thriller!!!
I like your charisma haha, very nice video!
Funny enough, its the same concept groove as when approaching the song Vultures by John Mayer.
This channel is extremely beginner friendly there is nothing wrong with that
This is great thanks
Great Emma 🤟🏻🥁
Brilliant Emma‼️
This groove was created and recorded by the late great Ndugu Chancelor.
I love u man....... ( Girl ) U rock... I have learned so much from u. Keep up thew rock and Ill keep the views
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Do you teach in the real world too? I’d love to have a few lessons from you!
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I found this so meditative...
Nah its pretty straightforward and Ndugu Chancler made it look even easier