What an excellent channel, easily the best I've seen on the subject. You are clearly gifted. information is always presented in a way, that's so clear, and easy to understand. Subscribed!
Directed my first film on anamorphic this year using sirui lenses. We rented a 35 and a 100 and ended up shooting almost the entire thing on the 35. We loved the look! We were going sci-fi so anamorphic was a no-brainer, but it really elevated the film. Wonderful times to be an anamorphic enthusiast. Thanks Tito for yet another wonderful video!
17:11 "And [dof] is a pretty big difference that crop factors don't take into account." Respectfully, as I understand it, crop factor DOES take depth of field into account, when also applied to the f-stop (a critical omission most people make). A hypothetical 33 mm f/2 lens, when mounted on a 1.5x crop APS-C sensor, has the same field of view and depth of field that a 50 mm f/3 lens would have when mounted on full-frame. Of course mounting a lens on a different sensor does not physically change the lens at all (in focal length OR in aperture); we are talking about the factor you need to multiply to obtain a *different* lens that renders a similar image (in terms of *both* DoF and FoV) on a different-sized sensor. EDIT: the specific math for this falls naturally out of the DoF formula, `DoF = 2(u^2)N*c / (f^2)` where u = subj. distance, N = f-stop, c = circle of confusion limit, and f = focal length. We assume identical subj. distance and so get DoF ~ N*c / (f^2). Because c has to change with sensor diagonal for identical sharpness, it is normal and customary to adjust it by the crop factor (e.g. 1.5x). So to get identical DoF when changing focal length by crop factor and c by crop factor, we also need to change N by the crop factor! E.g. DoF ~ N*c/(f^2) = (1.5*N)*(1.5*c) / ((1.5*f)^2). We get (1.5^2) on the top and bottom canceling out - but ONLY if we apply crop factor to the f-stop in addition to the focal length.
I truly enjoy how this is a full out educational piece and lens set advice. Originally I thought this was a gear showcase video. But it got an actual narrative piece which is so rare to find in what others call "review". Now I want to watch more videos that I skipped on your channel.
your channel definitely deserves more recognition! this video was so informative and well structured. you can just tell Tito really has a passion for filmmaking and loves the craft.
Merci pour cet excellent travail acharné et de qualité ❤Je ne comprend pas tout mais je suis grâce à vous moins ignorant. Bravo 👏🏿 Merci pour les liens et outils mis à disposition. 👍🏾
17:24 Could you use Sirui's MFT bayonet adapter rings that were initially designed for their APS-C suitable lenses on the MARS set? If so you could mount the MARS set onto an APS-C with a very minimal addition of distance from the sensor.
What about using the EOS R 8K resolution? The 8K video uses the 36x18.98mm area of the sensor, Super 35 uses around 24.89x18.67 giving room to the 22.4x18.67mm area of a 6:5 anamorphic area needed for a 2.40:1 result, 5098x4248px that can be squeezed to 10196x4248px and then downsampled to 3840x1600px for UHD delivery... But... Which anamorphic lenses are available for the EOS R ecosystem?
All Sirui anamorphics fit RF, as well as Great Joy, and the free-for-all of adapters. In terms of size itself, I'd still choose the Panasonic S1H because of better vertical resolution and sensor use area (36x24mm, 3:2 aspect ratio as opposed to 36x18.98, 1.89:1 aspect ratio on the R).
A note, Spielberg favors spherical lenses around 21mm but when working anamorphic, shoots an a 40 most of the time. Alternatively, Wes Anderson and his DP shot Bottle Rocket spherically and used only the 27mm the entire movie. They then used a 40mm when shooting anamorphic.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget it's not technically EXACTLY 1:1 with SCP-224, but it reminds me of it, and it did something that an SCP clock would do LOL Really good stuff at any rate, Fam. The KING of Anamorphic Shooting hath spoken. IT IS SO
Good catch. Lighting conditions were underwhelming at this location, so I had to really push the background back down from overexposure and bring myself up from underexposure. So we got artifacts. There's more glaring ones than the forehead one. hahaha
Your channel is absolutely the most informative about anamorphic shooting 🙂 I am considering buying the Sirui lenses and I am doing some math. Technically, not financially, hahaha I use the factor 0.75 to calculate the focal length needed on an MFT camera relative to an S35 camera (50mm*0.75 = 37.5mm) . But when I compare it with the anamorphic format of a S35 film camera (2.35:1), I have to consider an additional factor of 2 to get the same HFOV. Is that correct? Example: A 50mm spherical lens on an S35 camera has a similar horizontal field of view as a 37.5 mm lens on an MFT camera (50*0.75). The 1.85:1 format on S35 cameras is vertically cropped (if I am correct). A 50mm anamorphic lens on an S35 camera would have 2X the angle of view horizontally, since the camera uses a 1.195:1 ratio to shoot 2X stretched (2.35:1 format). To have the same HFOV, I would need to use an 18.75mm spherical lens on an MTF camera (50*0.75/2) or in the case of the Sirui, a 24mm lens (50*0.75/2*1.33). Is this correct?
Thank you! The math is getting a little convoluted with changing sensor sizes and aspect ratios and squeezes. No wonder you're feeling lost. You can use my calculator and I think you'll have a better time: www.tferradans.com/anacalc/go The horizontal field of view of Sirui's 24mm 1.33X lens on MFT is the same as a 36mm on Full Frame or roughly 54mm on S35. The aspect ratio can change wildly and not affect this, as you're cropping the vertical field of view and not the horizontal one.
Renowned Japanese director Yasujirō Ozu shot every shot of all of his films (at least the ones he is famous for after establishing his style) on the 50mm lens. He believed it was the closest to how the human eye saw the world and it lent itself to his objective, mise-en-scene storytelling.
the rules are there for a good reason, but they're also made to be broken --and I always wanted to say that 😆first lol while watching your vid, this is a very very well done class, thanks 👏👏👏it's kind of a reverse clickbait, where I was expecting a gear comparison video, it turns into a very informative deep dive into the anamorphic world, great job Tito
BGH1 should be fine too. I just like the stabilization of the GH5 and GH5II. Century: search the channel, you'll find a few videos. This is one: th-cam.com/video/4b54MV9pyVk/w-d-xo.html
Great video again but the with is still confusing... I have the 'normal' MFT Sirui 35, 50 and 75. I also have a big heavy old Sony 0.70 front lens of a camcorder that works quite well in front of the 35mm with an ND filter in between. Yes, that was quite a Eureka moment, I turn the front lens to adjust the ND filter :-) Am I right I am getting 24,5 mm that way? Or, when I put my brand new anamorphot 1.33 / 40 in front of my 7Artisans 25 1.7 or cheap pany 25 1.7 (both work very well but I prefer the manual control of the 7Artisans), I get almost the result of a Sirui 24?
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thanks, great tool ! So the 25mm + 1.33 anamorphot on MFT should result in 38mm HFOV and the small Oly 17mm + 1.33 anamorphot results in 26mm HFOV. For the Sirui 35 you wrote somewhere that it has a FOV of 46.2 on MFT.
Item #: SCP-███ Object Class: Safe Interation with a SCP-███ is observed to be fatal. The victim is disintegrated then absorbed into SCP-███. Under no circumstances should containment personal press SCP-███'s red button.
Great video but you missed one thing when talking about different sensors. The depth of field is always the same for a given focallength at the same distance whatever sensor you have, it´s physics. It is when you change the distance to the subject that the depth of field changes. Since you get a 2x crop with m4/3-sensors you have to back away to get the same framing but the depth of field doesn't change just because you change camera/sensor size. I know you know this and have mentioned it in other videos but you missed it here.
Awesome instructional video. One of your best ones! People waste money on film school, when they should just watch your videos and then use their film school tuition money to fund their next film projects. haha.
This is hands down the best video about camera lenses, focal lengths, crop factors and filmmaking that I think exists on TH-cam
Wow, thank you! :D
What an excellent channel, easily the best I've seen on the subject. You are clearly gifted. information is always presented in a way, that's so clear, and easy to understand. Subscribed!
Directed my first film on anamorphic this year using sirui lenses. We rented a 35 and a 100 and ended up shooting almost the entire thing on the 35. We loved the look! We were going sci-fi so anamorphic was a no-brainer, but it really elevated the film. Wonderful times to be an anamorphic enthusiast. Thanks Tito for yet another wonderful video!
Most valuable video. Ur so underrated!!! Pls don’t stop uploading 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The split-diopter shot at 0:43 is very cool, nice job Tito.
Thank you! I'm glad you got it! It was the most challenging shot on the day!
17:11 "And [dof] is a pretty big difference that crop factors don't take into account." Respectfully, as I understand it, crop factor DOES take depth of field into account, when also applied to the f-stop (a critical omission most people make). A hypothetical 33 mm f/2 lens, when mounted on a 1.5x crop APS-C sensor, has the same field of view and depth of field that a 50 mm f/3 lens would have when mounted on full-frame. Of course mounting a lens on a different sensor does not physically change the lens at all (in focal length OR in aperture); we are talking about the factor you need to multiply to obtain a *different* lens that renders a similar image (in terms of *both* DoF and FoV) on a different-sized sensor.
EDIT: the specific math for this falls naturally out of the DoF formula, `DoF = 2(u^2)N*c / (f^2)` where u = subj. distance, N = f-stop, c = circle of confusion limit, and f = focal length. We assume identical subj. distance and so get DoF ~ N*c / (f^2). Because c has to change with sensor diagonal for identical sharpness, it is normal and customary to adjust it by the crop factor (e.g. 1.5x). So to get identical DoF when changing focal length by crop factor and c by crop factor, we also need to change N by the crop factor! E.g. DoF ~ N*c/(f^2) = (1.5*N)*(1.5*c) / ((1.5*f)^2). We get (1.5^2) on the top and bottom canceling out - but ONLY if we apply crop factor to the f-stop in addition to the focal length.
I truly enjoy how this is a full out educational piece and lens set advice. Originally I thought this was a gear showcase video. But it got an actual narrative piece which is so rare to find in what others call "review".
Now I want to watch more videos that I skipped on your channel.
So much value in your videos. Can’t believe this is available for free on TH-cam. Well done
THANK YOU!
Lol that was a great short opening. Good to see you showing off more of VanCity
this is gonna blow up man, a video like this is so sought after!!!! thank you!!
Very informative! I have only ever shot stills. You make me want to try video.
Dude the shot at 18:35 is just so majestic. Like why is no one talking about this
Thank you! That was a rush to get there on time for the sun to hit just right!
One of your best videos Tito! So comprehensive!
These videos is just another level
this was a great watch. very informative and fantastic production. great job by all who were involved!
your channel definitely deserves more recognition! this video was so informative and well structured. you can just tell Tito really has a passion for filmmaking and loves the craft.
Thank you! :D
Man, you really did huge job , thank you for real 🙏
Thanks for this video TITO!
Merci pour cet excellent travail acharné et de qualité ❤Je ne comprend pas tout mais je suis grâce à vous moins ignorant. Bravo 👏🏿 Merci pour les liens et outils mis à disposition. 👍🏾
Wow! What a hell of a video, Tito! A had a ton of questions about MARS and now they are finally answered 🙏
This is sick! Great job on all aspects of this video.
17:24 Could you use Sirui's MFT bayonet adapter rings that were initially designed for their APS-C suitable lenses on the MARS set? If so you could mount the MARS set onto an APS-C with a very minimal addition of distance from the sensor.
The back of the lenses is smaller than the APS-C set, so you can't just swap the mounts like this. :(
@@AnamorphicOnABudget bummer
Really happy to stumblet on to this channel :D gread video. Keep up the good work :)
simply a great intro-video : nice filmic realization, very nice story;-) ! .. followed by a good explanation, again - as every time. thx !
Thank you very much!
1:15 - the 2.39:1 pun wasn't lost on me
I just found that TH-cam marked this as potential spam. I'm hyped someone got it! :P
I Thank you for the content you create!
your best video yet!!!
What about using the EOS R 8K resolution? The 8K video uses the 36x18.98mm area of the sensor, Super 35 uses around 24.89x18.67 giving room to the 22.4x18.67mm area of a 6:5 anamorphic area needed for a 2.40:1 result, 5098x4248px that can be squeezed to 10196x4248px and then downsampled to 3840x1600px for UHD delivery... But... Which anamorphic lenses are available for the EOS R ecosystem?
All Sirui anamorphics fit RF, as well as Great Joy, and the free-for-all of adapters.
In terms of size itself, I'd still choose the Panasonic S1H because of better vertical resolution and sensor use area (36x24mm, 3:2 aspect ratio as opposed to 36x18.98, 1.89:1 aspect ratio on the R).
Luv the short!!
A note, Spielberg favors spherical lenses around 21mm but when working anamorphic, shoots an a 40 most of the time. Alternatively, Wes Anderson and his DP shot Bottle Rocket spherically and used only the 27mm the entire movie. They then used a 40mm when shooting anamorphic.
Great info. Did you read this somewhere online?
The beginning is rad!!
Great Video.. Im a "New Fan"...
Cant wait to review more of your Channel Videos...
The clock in the beginning is literally a SCP LOL
You never fail to deliver, Fam. Appreciate your channel! I gotta upgrade my subscription level asap
Oh crap! I'm sort of into SCPs recently, which one is that? :D
@@AnamorphicOnABudget it's not technically EXACTLY 1:1 with SCP-224, but it reminds me of it, and it did something that an SCP clock would do LOL
Really good stuff at any rate, Fam.
The KING of Anamorphic Shooting hath spoken.
IT IS SO
@@AnamorphicOnABudget oh and BTW I just got into the SCP lore about 4 months ago.
HOOKED!
Such an amazing world building exercise!!!!
Hi Tito. I am a fan and subscriber. Question, how does these Surui compare to the Laowa Nanomorph lens in quality and use on a mft43 set up.
This short is so cool🙌❤️, did you guys use blender or after effects for him disappearing?
Thank you! We used After Effects!
What's happening at 8:54 around your forehead? Export issue? Great video as usual thanks.
Good catch. Lighting conditions were underwhelming at this location, so I had to really push the background back down from overexposure and bring myself up from underexposure. So we got artifacts. There's more glaring ones than the forehead one. hahaha
Your channel is absolutely the most informative about anamorphic shooting 🙂 I am considering buying the Sirui lenses and I am doing some math. Technically, not financially, hahaha
I use the factor 0.75 to calculate the focal length needed on an MFT camera relative to an S35 camera (50mm*0.75 = 37.5mm) . But when I compare it with the anamorphic format of a S35 film camera (2.35:1), I have to consider an additional factor of 2 to get the same HFOV. Is that correct?
Example:
A 50mm spherical lens on an S35 camera has a similar horizontal field of view as a 37.5 mm lens on an MFT camera (50*0.75). The 1.85:1 format on S35 cameras is vertically cropped (if I am correct).
A 50mm anamorphic lens on an S35 camera would have 2X the angle of view horizontally, since the camera uses a 1.195:1 ratio to shoot 2X stretched (2.35:1 format). To have the same HFOV, I would need to use an 18.75mm spherical lens on an MTF camera (50*0.75/2) or in the case of the Sirui, a 24mm lens (50*0.75/2*1.33). Is this correct?
Thank you! The math is getting a little convoluted with changing sensor sizes and aspect ratios and squeezes. No wonder you're feeling lost. You can use my calculator and I think you'll have a better time: www.tferradans.com/anacalc/go
The horizontal field of view of Sirui's 24mm 1.33X lens on MFT is the same as a 36mm on Full Frame or roughly 54mm on S35. The aspect ratio can change wildly and not affect this, as you're cropping the vertical field of view and not the horizontal one.
Thanks, the calculator is perfect!
Renowned Japanese director Yasujirō Ozu shot every shot of all of his films (at least the ones he is famous for after establishing his style) on the 50mm lens. He believed it was the closest to how the human eye saw the world and it lent itself to his objective, mise-en-scene storytelling.
the rules are there for a good reason, but they're also made to be broken --and I always wanted to say that 😆first lol while watching your vid, this is a very very well done class, thanks 👏👏👏it's kind of a reverse clickbait, where I was expecting a gear comparison video, it turns into a very informative deep dive into the anamorphic world, great job Tito
Thank you so much! I never thought of it, but now, I'd say we need more reverse clickbait in the world, right? :)
Sirui mars + bgh1
how about this combination?
20:15 century optics? what product?
BGH1 should be fine too. I just like the stabilization of the GH5 and GH5II.
Century: search the channel, you'll find a few videos. This is one: th-cam.com/video/4b54MV9pyVk/w-d-xo.html
Great video again but the with is still confusing... I have the 'normal' MFT Sirui 35, 50 and 75. I also have a big heavy old Sony 0.70 front lens of a camcorder that works quite well in front of the 35mm with an ND filter in between. Yes, that was quite a Eureka moment, I turn the front lens to adjust the ND filter :-) Am I right I am getting 24,5 mm that way? Or, when I put my brand new anamorphot 1.33 / 40 in front of my 7Artisans 25 1.7 or cheap pany 25 1.7 (both work very well but I prefer the manual control of the 7Artisans), I get almost the result of a Sirui 24?
Too many numbers! You can use my calculator to figure it out all your particular scenarios! www.tferradans.com/anacalc/go :)
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thanks, great tool ! So the 25mm + 1.33 anamorphot on MFT should result in 38mm HFOV and the small Oly 17mm + 1.33 anamorphot results in 26mm HFOV. For the Sirui 35 you wrote somewhere that it has a FOV of 46.2 on MFT.
that opening scene tho!!💯
Item #: SCP-███
Object Class: Safe
Interation with a SCP-███ is observed to be fatal. The victim is disintegrated then absorbed into SCP-███.
Under no circumstances should containment personal press SCP-███'s red button.
fantastic video!!!!!!!
The amount of shots it took to get that box to fall the way you wanted. Dedication. I'd probably have chucked it over a hedge by that point.
Hahahah! The bloopers don't show even half of it!
Great video but you missed one thing when talking about different sensors. The depth of field is always the same for a given focallength at the same distance whatever sensor you have, it´s physics. It is when you change the distance to the subject that the depth of field changes. Since you get a 2x crop with m4/3-sensors you have to back away to get the same framing but the depth of field doesn't change just because you change camera/sensor size. I know you know this and have mentioned it in other videos but you missed it here.
True! I mentioned that it changes when you match the FOV, but I didn't mention it stays the same if we keep the same focal length and position.
nice, 238. the gadget itself looked realistic, more so than the acting but still funny
Por que no..? Todos !!!!
You disserve more
O curta do começo me lembrou a câmera escondida do "É 1 papapá"
Cadê essa referência, capitão? hahaha! Fiquei curioso!
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Pega esse clássico do Sílvio aê /watch?v=sbrOkZEhdGY
Nao eh disponivel aqui! aaaaaaah! hahahaha
@@AnamorphicOnABudget rapaz, tive que caçar pra achar esse em um canal não oficial hahaha /watch?v=1cI4vZlKEpk
@@SatanSupimpa HAHAHAHA! SOCORRO, TO MORRENDO! Eh a mesmissima coisa!
great video, very informative. Next time be careful with dates when the movies were released. :)
Dark knight - 2008
Goodfellas 1990
Thanks! Yeah, those totally slipped during the edit. Thanks for pointing them out!
obviously
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Awesome instructional video. One of your best ones! People waste money on film school, when they should just watch your videos and then use their film school tuition money to fund their next film projects. haha.
Thank you! Well, I did film school three times, so... maybe I already paid for everyone. :P
Acts 2:38
...its the score I give your acting skills out 1000! jk
Hahahaha, I'd take it.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget love you dude, youre awesome!
Ahhh... haven't heard bullshit debunked so satisfyingly in a long time. (I live in America)
Sirui - no longer spherical and almost anamorphic.
Hahahah, I kind of like it. :P
Well that short is an old joke about hole in a fence.
Boy, Sirui spent a lot of money on this ad.
I wish they did. hahaha. I just went off on this one to have more fun. The regular review stuff is getting boring to make.