I am from Malaysia and sometime I am playing online game that have friends from China and Taiwan. To my surprise, Chinese and Taiwanese were able to communicate well when we are in same lobby and in fact we are having blast.
Just because they both speak Chinese language is not a good reason for Taiwan to surrender itself to China. Canada and USA both speak english and are close. Should Canada be forced to join USA? Or both countries be forced to rejoin England? No!
War is extremely anti-human. Most human nature don’t even like verbal confrontations. We like to get along with each other. Don’t be manipulated by dirty politicians!
That’s a bit of an over generalisation. It’s mostly Chinese who live in larger cities that knows much about the outside world, not so much of those in rural areas or those in a non metropolitan area. Also it’s pretty difficult to know about modern China when your government always places ridiculous censorship on what goes in and out as compared to its neighbours like South Korea or japan.
@@egoamigo-1377 You obviously don't know much about China...your 25 cent opinion doesn't buy much. Amigo my a$$ , you aren't an Asian. You're a sino phobia!
@@kennedy6618 I am Asian buddy. How shocking! An Asian criticising another country in Asia? That totally never happens! China isn’t the only Asian country country mate. In what way the things I said are incorrect? An interview of people in Shanghai would be a lot different than an interview in changzhou.
@@egoamigo-1377 Know this, in this world, every single government needs to put certain types of censorship here and there to keep political and social stability. When it comes to China, you have to take 1.3 billion population into consideration. More people, more troubles and less resources for per person. Countries with small or medium population are much easier to control and manage.
It is disheartening for me to hear Mainland Chinese people say they are willing to use force to subjugate Taiwan. I believe the average Chinese person is reasonable and empathetic, but there is so much more for Taiwan to lose than for China to gain in violent conflict. Taiwan was subjugated by Japan yes, and as well as by the KMT, however it has been developing its own sense of collective nationhood for the past century. Let China and Taiwan maintain friendly relations, and if it happens - grow close through cultural exchange and soft power, rather than through intimidation tactics. Sadly I know Taiwan is a pawn in the game between the US and China, and so its own desires cannot be fairly assessed. Even if the mainland views Taiwan as a part of itself, it no longer governs it - the stance is merely ideological. And lest it not be forgotten, Taiwan was an Austronesian island whose people still live to this day, before China even gave it passing glance.
according to the logic in your last sentence, the white in US should go back to EU, for the indian still live in the land from the past to the present.
The PRC has never ruled Taiwan. Unless you’re referring to the Qing Dynasty, in which case Taiwan was already a Japanese colony by the time the ROC overthrew it.
That's easier saying it, but doing are 2 totally different things. People don't realise it, but America has been funding the succession, seperation of Taiwan from China's sovereignty ever since they split up, because that's what the US wants. I see Taiwan as just another vassal puppet government catering to US interests, rather than the interests of the Taiwanese people. If you ask the people, in Taiwan today, they don't want war, confrontation, it's the same shit in South Korea, people don't wanna live in constant fear anymore, so this constant fear, is perpetrated by America on purpose, so they can sell more weapons, make money, profit from these tensions, that's why US does it, but that's only 1 reason. Other slreasons are due to geopolitical, strategic reasons. If US can control Taiwan, they can setup military bases there in Taiwan, the other reason is, economic reasons & political reasons, for containing a rising China, competitor to US. America is using Taiwan as a proxy for any future confrontation with China, just as US is using NATO, against Russia, same crap in Ukraine, a proxy war. Follow the money trail, it leads back to the culprits.
@@zhongguojiayou2675 you see, this is why we taiwanese h8te china, you think you and the US have control over us and we have no rights to decide for ourselves "I see Taiwan as just another vassal puppet government catering to US interests, rather than the interests of the Taiwanese people." who are you to say that? again with the tyrant mentality, you think you know everything and we dont, "If you ask the people, in Taiwan today, they don't want war, confrontation, it's the same shit in South Korea, people don't wanna live in constant fear anymore, so this constant fear, is perpetrated by America on purpose" any human in their right minds would be against war if you want war you're anti-human, and the only reason there's gonna be war between Taiwan and china is because we dont want to be a part of china and we love democracy, and CHINA THREATHENS to take us by force, now, who's really creating the fear? how exactly does the US create fear in this situation? "If US can control Taiwan, they can setup military bases there in Taiwan, the other reason is, economic reasons & political reasons, for containing a rising China, competitor to US. America is using Taiwan as a proxy for any future confrontation with China" once again with the tyrant mentality, we are a sovereign and independent country, the US does not tell us what to do , if suddenly all taiwanese people decide they want to be a part of china then the US cant do shit about it, you cant face the reality that china has the worst reputation in the world and that's one of the biggest reasons we do not wanna be a part of it, thanks no thanks, you enjoy your dictatorship while we celebrate democracy The US may be a villain but china is definitely not one of the good guys
I exremely hope we can more communicate than before between mianlands and taiwan in the future. Every things can friendly negotiate only if the destination is to enable their citizens to live a better life
But how to communicate if the opinions of the people there are not allowed to be spoken out !? I mean we can talk about how bad the policies of Mao are but the moment someone mentions his failures this person goes to prison and the conversation is over …… So there can’t be a conversation without free speech. U get that point !? I mean if TH-cam would delete this video and delete ur comment and u would be in the US and the FBI knocks ur door and puts u into jail. How am I supposed to answer to ur comment ?😉
Taiwan doesn't want to have friendly negotiations. The CCP has never had control of Taiwan it has no right to it's territory. The ROC has diversified greatly since the civil war and enjoys a prosperous economy and one of the most democratic governments in the world seperate from the CCP. Taiwan ranks 8th on the Global Democracy Index, while mainland China ranks 148th. The Taiwanese people don't want their freedoms taken away by an authoritarian regime. Not to mention the indigenous culture which wasn't a part of China until forceful annexation from the Qing Dynasty in the late 1600s.
they are protecting what they want, there’s no issue for that, it’s a free world people can defend anything they want. and human nature are all the SAME, we can only see what we want to believe.
Well, you are hearing what the people of Shanghai want, is there any problem on that? Arn’t people of Shanghai not allowed to expressed their opinions? As for what the people of Taiwan want, I think you have to watch a similar styled street interview done in Taiwan, isn’t it. You can agree or disagree on any other person’s opinion but you can’t make a judgement as if you are the representative of all people in Taiwan. Back Off
@@Claire-lv9lc You are the only one getting angry. You should back off, plus the point stands - who in the video said the opinion of the majority of Taiwanese should be considered?
To all my fellow countrymen in Mainland China, we overseas Chinese who were born in the west, see both sides of the coin here, including myself. It is one thing to have amicable friends from either side, Taiwan/China PRC. But to have this mind set, that America means well, isn't involved in any way, of the tensions between China, Taiwan, to expect America to play nice here, isnot only naive, but downright stupid. The American government has been funding, Taiwanese propaganda for decades, they've also been funding Anti-China propaganda for decades too. America are still funding such activities against China. People in China have to realise, that America doesn't care about Taiwan or the people there, they only care about dividing the people, splitting Taiwan from China's sovereignty, that's all America 🇺🇸 cares about. That's been their goal all along. Otherwise why else would America backed Chang Kai Shek for, because they wanted him to rule the rest of China, as a vassal state, just like Japan today. But thankfully they were unsuccessful, Chang Kai Shek lost against Mao, then KMT had to flee to Taiwan, ever since they lost, America has been funding them ever since, if it wasn't for US funds being funneled to these seperatist groups in Taiwan, such as the DPP party, Taiwan would've crumbled by now. Remember, Taiwan was under Martial Law from 1949 to 1987. That's a long time for martial law to be in place. So all this funding from America has tried to reimage, re design their proxy, their vassal officials in Taiwan as democratic, but if you look at the history, Taiwan from 1949 - 1987 was NOT a democratic government, it was a dictatorship, a vassal puppet government beholden to USA 🇺🇸 interests. It has been like that ever since the DPP took over from KMT. Many Taiwanese citizens have relatives back in Mainland China, in various counties, provinces across mainland China. It serves no purpose for either side to fight against each other, because we all have the same blood running through our veins, we're all Chinese, all our ancestors are all Chinese. I've seen DPP for many years now, trying to de sinicise the Taiwanese population, trying to rewrite their own history, distancing themselves away from their own race, you cannot just hit delete key on your keyboard 🎹 & try to change your own identity. If a Taiwanese person went to America, Americans would still you as Chinese because of your skin colour. We speak the same langauge for god sake, same culture, eat the same food etc. Kind of reminds me of how Hong Kong used to be like. The British whitewashed the history textbooks in Hong Kong to reflect their own version of Hong Kong history, to paint the British as benevolent rulers, who gave them opportunities, & improved their life's, this is what majority of younger generation in Hong Kong used to be taught. But this is far from the REAL History of how Hong Kong was like under British rule. No democracy, no democratic freedom, for ordinary Hong Kong people, all positions of government power was hand picked, chosen by the British. Banks, Education ministers, all hand picked Chosen by the British. Ordinary HK citizens were treated as third class citizens on their own land, whilst British foreigners all had higher management positions. This has given rise to traitors like Jimmy Lai Chee Ying, Martin Lee Chu Ming, Claudia Mo, Albert Ho, Anson Chan, Agnes Chow, Joshua Wong Chi Fung, Nathan Law, Sixtus Baggio Luerng, Jimmy Sham, Yau Wai Ching, Joey Siu, & many others like them. Jimmy Lai, used his Apple Daily & Next Media as propaganda outfits, to brainwash the population, to hate their own country, guess what, America was funding Jimmy Lai, Martin Lee & many others like them via National Endowment For Democracy aka NED. Who funds NED? Its the US government, US Congress directly funds NED, which is a propaganda outfit created by CIA in 1980's, because the CIA were caught red handed washing dirty money in banks. This is the exact same thing what the British did in Hong Kong, using HK Triads, to wash dirty money in HK banks, hence why HK had to create ICAC, to stamp out the corruption, but they don't tell you that it was the British who were also heavily involved with HK Triads, in that dirty operation, you don't hear that in any rubbish biased western msm. People in China should learn from history, that America is a country NOT to be trusted EVER. Look what they did to those Japanese War criminals, they let them all go free from any future prosecution, all those butchers, from UNIT 731, Shiro Ishii, were all set free, in exchange for the scientific data from UNIT 731 & various other places like UNIT 731. Look at Ukraine, look at the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, for 56 years, America turned a blind eye, to Palestinians for 56 years, still taking sides in the conflict.
Goodness, this sounds very familiar to how young Russians felt about Ukraine(we speak the same language, we have the same traditions, we have the same culture, etc). They went on to say that Ukraine were a desperate people, didn’t know russia had democracy, and wanted to be a part of Russia. Then when they finally went to Ukraine and found out that Ukraine was a well off nation and really didn’t want anything to do with Russia.
@@riorio745 thank you, I realize the situations are, in fact, different. While the specific politics and technicalities differ, their POVs remain eerily similar.
The key point you're missing or deliberately ignoring is that they see Taiwan's "secession" from China as a violation from colonial powers during the century of humiliation. Taiwan was colonized by Japan. Hong Kong was colonized by the British in the opium war -- which, mind you, happened because the british parliament voted to invade china when China banned British opium in China because it was destroying their nation. When China was weak, the West didn't give it human rights or the right to self-determination or self-governance, so you can bet they're not going to listen to preaching. I find it so weird that you're intentionally ignoring this aspect. The POV is not similar, you just dont understand post-colonial trauma.
Taiwan is not that well off. 😂😂😂 Ukraine isa sovereign nation and Taiwan has always been part of China. People have the right to leave but the land is ours. Hoping for a peaceful reunification but we prepare for the worst.
@@lucyfiniarel2347 This is what I had in mind, China for a long time was bullied by western powers so I'm not surprise with their attitude now since they rose in power
The girl said that the US doesn't know much about 'our democracy!' Almost 300 Chinese companies are listed on US stock markets with a CAP of almost $1Trillion. I think they do!
By equating "companies" with Chinese democracy is exactly what she's talking about. You can't do that and assume you know anything about their political positions or cultural ideologies.
Very few countries tolerate secessionism. The only example I can think of is the UK, where in just the past two decades or so, they've been tolerant of the idea of the peaceful secession of Scotland and Northern Ireland. But even so, this is built on a history of centuries of the use of force to keep those lands in the union, not to mention the violence needed to maintain their colonies.
Canada had a referendum for Quebec secession. The only real example of violent crackdowns on secessionist movements in Europe is Spain, which has been heavily criticized by other western democracies. The US technically doesn't allow secession either but there is 0 chance any state is going to secede from the union.
@@apollo1694 In modern Europe: Ireland, Basque Country vs Spain and France, Yugoslavia including Kosovo, Greece vs Turkey including Cyprus, Armenia vs Azerbaijan including Nagorno-Karabakh, Georgia, Russia, Ukraine, Israel. Before Canada's referendum was the FLQ and the October Crisis. Similar, though not identical, things still happen with First Nations, like the Oka Crisis.
@@unifieddynasty Ireland is not a secessionist movement. Basque County is something I already mentioned. Serbia, Russia and Ukraine are hardly part of the "west" as a political bloc. Armenia, Azerbaijan, Israel aren't even in Europe.
@@apollo1694 Ireland as a whole was a secessionist movement. Northern Ireland is still a secessionist region. When you mentioned Spain, I thought you meant Catalonia, but Basque Country also works provided you also include France. "West" was never a qualifier in this thread. Armenia, Azerbaijan, Israel are commonly grouped with Europe. Point is, even in Europe, secessionism is often violent and met with violence. And importantly, I never limited my original position to just Europe, or Western Europe.
It’s not secession when the Chinese Communist Party never ruled over Taiwan before. When WWII ended in 1945, Japan surrendered the island to the Republic of China. The People’s Republic of China was not established until 1949. The Republic of China fled and formed the government of Taiwan.
@@TheKewlPerson Taiwan only exists because they had a civil war and America backed one side to prevent a conclusion. Imagine the Chinese armed and supported confederate independence in 1860. That doesn’t sound very popular either.
@@bjornbuckley Except unlike the CSA, the ROC has existed for even longer than the PRC. If anything, the US was supporting the legitimate country created by Sun Yat Sen's revolution.
@河南高素质土著不偷井盖不骗保险 None of those states want independence. All you do is draw false comparisons with random US subdivisions who have 0 intention of secession, unlike Taiwan
It's unfortunate that they don't know why so many Taiwanese are against reunification with China and they think its due to outside influences. First of all I would say it's a generational thing. For instance the first Chinese who fled to Taiwan after the civil war, they obviously had a deep bond with the mainland. Their children, the first generation who were born and raised in Taiwan, had some notion of China from their parents through stories or whatnot. However since they grew up during the Cold War most of them did not have a first hand experience of China until the 90s early 2000s. Moving on to the generation who grew up in the post martial law era in Taiwan. Most of them did not grow up with any particular sense of unity with the mainland largely because they didn't have parents that really experienced China. Also it was already certain in everybody's mind that the ROC would never retake the mainland thus pro indepedence became the alternative. The second reason, and I believe it was the real turning point was how the CCCP handled the HK protests. The people of HK were fighting for all the things the Taiwanese hold dearly. It was like a preview of what would happen to Taiwan if it ever reunified with China. I am personally for peaceful co-existence, something like the U.S and Canada but I am against reunification. Despite speaking the same langauge and both consisting mostly of Han Chinese. I think there are still significant differences that cannot be easily ironed out.
I completely agree with you ! A lot of Chinese like to say that Taiwan has the same culture and language as China so they should be part of China… So what about North and South Korean? North India and Pakistan ? Canada and the US ? Just don’t recognize all of these countries if they want to say that argument everytime. They don’t want to see from the Taiwanese point of view and you explained it very well
Just like north and south korea, there are 2 chinas, one governed by the PRC and one by the ROC, culturally it been more than 70 years, when the us move from uk , 70 years equal cultural change, no longer identify as british as they have their own government, culture and way of life
There are more differences between Hui, Mongolians and Uyghurs with the main chinese groups than those Chinese groups with Taiwan, so all those minorities should get independence? The only big difference between Taiwan and China are the Goverments, I dont believe any nation should be divided by politics, once there is a clear winner, reunification should be accepted. More than 70 years of US statehood happened before the Civil war started, so different cultures developed in each side and yet war and reunification happened.
The Chinese people definitely need to be communicating with the Taiwanese more like what the last lady said. They should learn what the Taiwanese people want- reunification or not, despite history and everything. History can just be thrown out the window if the current people living there do not wish for a reunification.
@@huiqinjinxi4514When you say “our land” are you suggesting that the people of Taiwan should be kicked out of their homes and put into camps like the uighurs?
the fat that mainland Chinese think they can decide the future of Taiwanese citizens is beyond insane. The fact is recent polls show that an overwhelming majority of Taiwanese believe in a Taiwanese identity, and the rest of the world don't see Taiwan as a part of china. No one would say that Beijing is the capital of Taiwan, everyone knows that Taipei is the capital. Not only that just because someone has a shared language and culture doesn't give you the right to claim it as your territory since you consider them the 'same' people. For example majority of Singaporeans are Chinese, speak mandarin and follow Chinese culture. Does that mean China can now claim Singapore as a part of their country? South Koreans speak Korean, does that mean North Korea now claims South Korea is a province of North Korea?
1.4 billion Chinese people all support the military reunification of Taiwan as soon as possible!!! This is true, but the government is unwilling to do so~~~
1.4billion brainwashed people . I dare one chinese man or member of parliament to go outside and protest about xi and i bet you wont see him after a couple of weeks.
wow.... i don't know what to say.... i couldn't finish watching the entire video..... this is just wow... i'm kind of speechless after this. Why does it matter if Taiwan is part of China or not? If you ask the people living in Hong Kong, 9 out of 10 will say that are not happy and that their lives have not improved until China rule. Taiwan's true brother in arm is Hong Kong because they understand each other. Chinese people think that they stand at the top of Asian race/culture but don't bite off more than you can chew. No matter how big China is, it can't go against all the rest of the Asian countries surrounding them. That girl said they have the right to vote. Ok, for crap that isn't important. Can you vote for a new president? Oh wait. Your current president just erased the rule about have a "term" in office. He is now literally your president until he wishes tor resign or until he dies. Then who appoints the new president? Do you go and vote on it? No you don't. I can go in front of the white house in Taiwan and America and say the "F" word and walk away and they can't do anything. Do you think anyone has the balls to do that in China? Why is your VPN restricted from the rest of the world? Because big brother China government wants to be all knowing on what you are doing. I could rant for hours.... but i'm done.
Why do u want to vote for a new president?? R u an political science expert? Do you know how to run a economy? Why would a country be lead by people who are voted into office by normal citizens??? Look at US. Look at the Congress, 90 percent of the people stay in office forever. It’s corrupt. Why don’t u go to the US and look at rural areas, looks like a third world country. How bout not being brainwashed and recognized that Taiwan people are Chinese people too.
If you think as an American your government represent you, you will find out also how draconian US government can be if you mess or offend this empire. US has the largest prison system and had lock up more of her citizen as much as the CCP. You have to be careful about your free spreech too and make sure it is politically correct or other wise the will also come after you.
We don’t vote for our president but we can vote to decide who becomes the head of our village or community. Isn’t this enough? We vote for what is directly relevant to us as a resident.
People in Hong Kong used to be slaves under the rule of UK. But China just spoiled its baby HongKong.China gives pretty much everything that HongKong wants and people in Hong Kong just take it for granted and want more and more from its mother mainland China.
Nonsense, democracies also have political correctness yes, but in democracies you will get shamed, in China your opinion will be censored or you will face legal action, this is very different
It makes no sense to me that because Taiwanese people dont recognise themselves as chinese that that warrants them being invaded? In the UK we have a saying "some people are gay get over it" I think we could say "some people are Taiwanese get over it"
Taiwan can literally become an unsinkable carrier for USA army. So yeah Taiwan has to understand that they are a real piece in the American chess. So reunification has to be the most secure outcome for China.
Would've loved to hear her ask these people "How do you feel about a majority of the Taiwanese not supporting reunification?". I kind of get the feeling that they had to be very smart about the questions asked however, due to the Chinese Government's policies when it comes to the media there.
Yeah, ofc because the CCP is behind everybody at all time … You know for once if you could just use your brain you might found out it's better to use it. Ask the same question to spanish people about Catalunia, or Canadian people about Quebec, or American people about Texas. But no i guess you need to use your double standard as much as possible.
As an ordinary Chinese citizen, let me tell you, "How do you feel about a majority of the Taiwanese not supporting reunification?" if China's 1.4 billion people vote to resolve whether Taiwan is peacefully reunified, I believe it will be supported by a minority. We hate Taiwan independence and Hong Kong independence. policy, discriminate against mainlanders, but the Chinese government is trying to control us and persuade us to be one family, this is democracy that you can't see in the west
The Chinese government does not let the people go hungry, and there is no fear of bullets. When going out at night, you can go shopping with friends, run, eat, anytime, anywhere. It will not ruin your life because of drug addiction, and it will not be ineffective because of domestic political infighting. To implement a policy, we only care about our own work, our own travel, our own family, and we are proud of our country with five thousand years of history. You still need to read more books. The media is oriented. Ability, watch less BBC
We are fully aware that a lot of young people in Taiwan don’t want the unification the mainlander have craved for so long due to the purposefully changing of their history curriculum books, but including Taiwan, the majority of Chinese will never let go of any piece of our land. Btw, what do you mean about the media? At least our media doesn’t lie as yours.
Trust me, the majority knows that. And the Chinese gov is censoring every thread regarding anti Taiwan sentiments. Taiwanese should be grateful that the CCP is actually protecting them. The Chinese citizens are slowing abandoning the peaceful unification stance.
What I don't understand is why ordinary Chinese people care so much about Taiwan being a part of China. What difference does it make to them personally?
Well, it would benefit China's economy if they could control Taiwan, which would likely have an effect on the lives of people in China. National pride as well.
Being friendly in attitude and symbolic gestures is enough. A functionally independent Taiwan but symbolically unified being Chinese I think is enough.. No one benefits from functional unification or symbolic independence, it's going to cause further issues for years to come. Status quo has worked well for a very long time and should stay that way.
@@WinkelmanSM-3 The so-called TW nation is a BS, like a bunch of woke youngsters who formed a woke community with self-proclaimed titles. In fact, the real TW natives are those who lived in this island centuries ago with their own tribal languages prior to Japan and Dutch occupation, not those KMT remnants either. Even its official name is Republic of China, not Republic of Taiwan or something like that.
Taiwan will cooperate with US and Japan to divide China into different countries. It is the right thing to do for democratic countries. Taiwan can help, whether China like it or not.
As a Merkin I love hearing from the people on the street and not the CCP or US government. All interviewed seem likeable. I think I would love sitting down to dinner and talking to these people in my crappy Mandarin about stuff. ( They would have to be patient with me. ) They seem to know more about the US than they do in Europe. Both China & Europe have problems with the US government, but seem to like individuals ( like me ) from the US. I hope reunification is peaceful. My impression of Taiwanese is that they want to unify ( mostly ).
You know what is even funnier? Democratic countries wanting a country like China to be a liberal democracy. Isn't democracy about one's own freedom to choose and not be told or forced? China is happy the way it is. Now that's funny!
Bcoz democracy is not an absolute thing. Even in some "democratic" countries, there are ideologies that are banned like communism islamism or nazism etc.
We need to respect the citizens of Taiwanese people. If they vote and win for independence, then China has no right to use force as they are doing right now. If Taiwan wishes to be part of China, then US has no right to intervene.
@@TomTomdog Because they are military controlled by US and Japan. If these countries' military power get lost, the local people there will declare independence quickly. Second, although you guys keep saying that Taiwan is an independent country, but yet it still has not officially declare independence. Even the US high command in Indo-pacific does not support Taiwan's independence. Taiwan's ownership will be decided by the comparison of China and US military power.
To be exact Taiwan was decently happy being in status quo, but the chairman decided to say one sentence and turned everything upside down and then doubling down on it 😐
"Taiwan people don't understand our mainland democracy, so we will explain it by military invasion." LOL! Priceless. When they tell you who they are, believe them.
She literally stated that she would only support forceful reunification if western countries attempted to use Taiwan to threaten china militarily (ie, the US setting up military bases with weapons pointed at China). Did you watch the video???
@@forever-and-a-day2043nah he/ she just threw a strawman fallacy to get likes😂. The other person knows what they are doing and just wants to get likes lol
0:25 Most citizens of the PRC can't travel to Taiwan (RoC) unless they are in a tour group. A fact many PRC citizens ignore is "Taiwan" is already independent. The RoC was founded in 1912 and has yet to cease to exist since then. The CCP was the rebellious faction that was separatist and created a new nation (the PRC). 1:55 Lol, there is no freedom of speech in the PRC, that kid is delusional. Freedom of speech is being able to say things w/o your government punishing you. In the PRC you can get arrested/detained for saying anything that the government (CCP) doesn't agree with. Covid deaths? Jailed. The PRC isn't a democracy, jailed. Expressing the fact Taiwan has never been a part of the PRC, jailed. Lots of good CCP lapdogs, talking about 'democracy in the PRC.' But if they don't like the leadership (such as Xi), can they vote him out of power? NOPE. Who is allowed to run in elections that they do get to vote in? The CCP. You can only vote for CCP approved candidates. 3:01 Perhaps he needs to read the PRC's constitution. It says, very plainly, that the PRC is led by a dictatorship. Clueless fools. 3:17 Speaking the same language, having much of the same culture... So in his opinion, are Chinatowns across the world part of the PRC too? What about Singapore? This is a very flawed way of thinking that quite a few citizens of the PRC have. 3:28 She knows about Taiwan being ceded, but doesn't acknowledge the RoC being founded in 1912, or that in 1945 the PRC didn't exist, so who did Japan hand the island over to? Well, not the Qing Dynasty, as they were replaced by the RoC. 3:50 Ahhh, another misunderstanding by many PRC citizens. Chinese is both an ethnicity, and a nationality. People in HK and the ROC don't deny that they are ethnically Chinese, but many in those areas want nothing to do with the nation of China (PRC), currently led by the CCP. 5:38 Exactly, and joining the PRC doesn't interest them. For those that thought maybe it could work out, the CCP showed them how the CCP operates. 2 systems 1 country for HK? No, 1 system 1 country. People didn't stop protesting in HK because they suddenly started approving of the CCP, they stopped protesting because the CCP cracked down on them. 6:06 Another clueless citizen. Yup, the island of Taiwan was given up by Japan. But did the PRC exist in 1945? NOPE. This is the level of intellectual dishonesty that so many citizens of the PRC have. 6:25 Wow, this guy is really clueless. Most people in HK didn't want independence, they simply wanted the CCP to uphold the deal they struck w/ the UK, for the rights, freedoms, and legal system that were in place in HK to persist for 50 years before the CCP changed things. The CCP couldn't even wait 50 years. But, I guess in his defense, he is only exposed to CCP approved media, so he gobbles up every lie he is told. 7:15 Also, another thing PRC citizens gloss over. Why does "Taiwan" have more culture? Because the CCP/Mao instigated the Cultural Revolution destroying much of that in the PRC. The CCP is to blame, but they don't recognize that fact, they still hold up Mao as some great leader of a nation, when all he was was a great leader of a revolution. 7:17 "Our high-speed rail" Oh, so the interviewer is also a citizen of the PRC.... Yeah, we'll see if the RoC lets a high-speed rail connection be built between the PRC and RoC. But, what this video does show is how effective CCP propaganda is. A nation full of delusional people, ignoring major historical points so that they may maintain certain views that help big brother.
The UN doesn't decide if a territory is a country or not, so that's a useless point to bring up. The RoC changed its view on Mongolia quite awhile ago. It no longer claims Mongolia as part of the RoC. What does Taiwan being a province of the RoC have to do w/ the RoC not being a country? The RoC also has other provinces, or at least one. Are you familiar w/ Kinmen Island? It's not part of the province of Taiwan. If people in the RoC don't know that the RoC is the name of their country, that's sad. As The Republic of China is on their passports, currency, and is stated in official political meetings. Also, they (should) recognize the RoC was founded in 1912. And you mention independence forces. But you also admit that the RoC hasn't ceased to exist since it was established in 1912. So, how can there be independence forces when they are already independent? You seem to have been infected w/ CCP propaganda, so you're saying some things that are silly, while still admitting things that are true that the CCP doesn't want the world to know/acknowledge. 联合国不决定一个领土是否是一个国家，所以提出这个问题毫无用处。 中华民国早就改变了对蒙古的看法。 它不再声称蒙古是中华民国的一部分。 台湾是中华民国的一个省，与中华民国不是一个国家有什么关系？ 中华民国还有其他省份，或至少有一个省份。 你熟悉金门岛吗？ 它不属于台湾省。 如果 RoC 中的人不知道 RoC 是他们国家的名称，那就太可悲了。 由于中华民国在他们的护照、货币上，并在官方政治会议上注明。 此外，他们（应该）承认中华民国成立于 1912 年。 你提到了独立势力。 但你也承认，中华民国自1912年成立以来，并没有停止存在。那么，既然已经独立了，怎么会有独立势力呢？ 你似乎被中共的宣传感染了，所以你说了一些愚蠢的话，同时仍然承认中共不想让世界知道/承认的事情是真实的。
They are literally the same people, if the United States had not intervened this problem would have been solved decades ago. The difference between the two is political, not ethnic. In fact, if they have to talk about the history of both places, they will say exactly the same thing until 1949. Whatever happens from now on, it will be unfair
@@indrajaya9585Does china has voting system? Its communism. And taiwanese love their democracy. They don’t want to be part of china. Taiwan belongs to Taiwanese, not chinese
@@diamondluck3851 The infrastructure is too shabby. The transportation is also somewhat Southeast Asian. Even in Taipei, it resembles the motorcycle army of Southeast Asia.There are some very interesting things that can't be explained by science, like the relationship between genetics-region and aesthetic style.I don't know if it is because Taiwan is near Southeast Asia, and Taiwanese also have Southeast Asian genes, so the aesthetic style is similar to Southeast Asia？even Taiwanese motorcycle hats are the same style as Southeast Asian motorcycle hats … Their e pop culture aesthetic is also considered very outdated by mainlanders. Of course, 20 years ago, mainland Chinese loved Taiwanese pop culture.At that time, the group of mainlanders(KMT) who went to Taiwan in 1949 had not completely withered away. So the Taiwan aesthetic at that time had a "China "style.But in the last 20 years, Taiwanese culture has been localized and de-Sinicized. Their aesthetic becomes rural to mainlanders. I can quickly tell which one is Taiwanese and which one is mainland by the way I dress. For example, Taiwanese people seem to be very fond of multi-coloured dressing styles, similar to those in Thailand. The mainlanders have a minimalist style of Northeast Asian style.Girls' makeup can be distinguished. Mainland girls' skin is whiter and their makeup is close to that of South Korea. Taiwanese girls have a mix of Japanese and Southeast Asian styles. I call the two aesthetic styles "high latitude aesthetic" and "low latitude aesthetic".It is clear that Taiwan's aesthetic style has tropical characteristics. The low-latitude aesthetic is often unpopular. Has nothing to do with the level of economic development.For example, Hong Kong's gdp per capita is higher than South Korea's, but Hong Kong's pop culture is not popular, and South Korea's pop culture is far more popular.Taiwanese youth are now influenced by mainland pop culture, and even Internet buzzwords are used from the mainland.
@@조일선명 I’m not referring to Taiwan’s pop culture but rather its infrastructure and transportation. What? its transportation is south east asian style? Then why is Taiwanese Rapid Transit System is voted as the best in the world? Much even better than Japan and Singapore. Yes some buildings in Taiwan is Shabby but that’s not the case as it also has some modern areas now and the shabby building you refer is what I actually mean as riche noveau, maybe run down but definitely a better interior and high price value. You should look beyond the buildings but look more on healthcare, transportation and safetiness which is an important factor of quality of life of a nation and Taiwan does better in that than China. I can’t name any SEA countries whose rapid transit system is better than Taiwan, this alone is I can consider as modern.
@@diamondluck3851 Admittedly much better than Southeast Asia, I mean the style, not the level. But it is true that the infrastructure is not as good as that on the mainland, so many mainlanders' first impression after visiting Taiwan is that it is very shabby and old.The building itself is an important part of the infrastructure.When it comes to traffic, not to mention the south of Taiwan, even in Taipei there are many motorcycle armies. It felt dangerous. The noise was very loud.It makes me feel a little bit Southeast Asian.On the contrary in the mainland, people don't ride motorcycles with loud noise and heavy gasoline smell, but bicycles and electric motorcycles, quiet and green.And I did not see the motorcycle army, even in the 5-line level of the county is difficult to see the gathering of dense motorcycle army scene.
This term of “ethnic unity” being said about Taiwan in regards to annexing them is very disturbing. It’s a fascist talking point and it has no place in today’s world.
even usa has many ethnic groups but they still in one country,china is multi ethnic country and taiwan is one of ethnic groups of china and also china and taiwan is one
@@dk.magic.mobile108 I don’t think you understand. Those people in China were saying that the country should be united by one single ethnic group. Right now in Xinjiang the ethnic uighurs are being put in concentration camps and having their culture erased. Taiwan doesn’t need to join China just because they’re the same ethnicity.
@@TheKewlPerson When the real Uighurs express their opinions, you just say it is false and brainwashed, when the western media publish so-called information, you will firmly believe anything negative about China
there are nice chinese people and nice taiwanese people. however i would never indentify myself as a chinese ever. i am proud to be taiwanese. we are not the same and that is thanks to the ccp in world war 2 :))
@@郑宇-k2b dream on lol. after ww2 the ccp claimed they would take taiwan in 3 days and 70 years later here we are. dont look down on the military as well; taiwan and ukraine are ranked 21 and 22 as of this year, and look how small they are compared to your 'mighty' country lol. and they do have the us, japan and aus backing them up. if xijingping really thought he could take taiwan he would have done it by now so why wouldn't he? hahahahaha yeah thats what i thought. this ccp brainwashing is kinda funny
@@jagaimo9859 Do you think Taiwanese look forward to war? ? ? LOL! ! Tsai Ing-wen never recognized Taiwan as an independent country. . He is not like a fool like Zelensky.Zelensky publicly gave NATO access to Ukraine. Only a fool like him would dare to do that. Whether the war is won or lost, Ukraine is completely over. .🤣
Taiwan is of course a country, but it does not belong to China. It is a country that constantly defends its sovereignty. TSMC was born in such a democratic country and has continued to flourish, becoming the first Asian company with a market value exceeding US$1 trillion in the U.S. stock market. enterprise! 台灣當然是一個國家，但不屬於中國，他是一個不斷捍衛主權的國家，台積電就是在這樣的一個民主的國家誕生，並且不斷蓬勃發展，成為市值在美國股市第一個突破1兆美元的亞洲企業！
Ethnic Uyghurs are part of mainland China's 56 ethnic groups. C'mon, these people can also be found in other mainland cities like Beijing, Chengdu, Shenzhen, Wuhan, Shanghai, Xi'an and others.
Taiwanese people can be ethnically and linguistically Chinese but not by nationality. Austrians are ethnic Germans and their language is German, yet they are a separate country. Besides, why is it so important that Taiwanese people consider themselves “Chinese”? Is it seen as a blow to the pride/ego of those on the mainland?
@@FSH_0740 Why should we care about the United Nations. They are completly incomptent. Taipei and Shanghai are both situated in two different countries, one is governed by 中華民國 and the other by 中華人民共和國
the island belongs to China, if some of Taiwan people don't recognize themselves as Chinese, they should leave the Chinese land. just like, I live in your room, I hate you and don't think the room belongs to you, then 100% you will hit me.
@@VictorZhouexcept Taiwan is on a different island. If you take your example into consideration the room is like the entire land of china. Taiwan is outside of that. Very close. And one could say that the Philippines is close to china aswell. I don’t recognise myself as Chinese, I am Taiwanese. There’s a difference.
@@VictorZhoubut even so? You’re saying it’s ok that because I don’t recognise myself as Chinese you get to announce war? Are you sick in the head? Imagine if Taiwan said that back? People would be absolutely shocked
I really admired the Chinese public. They are knowledgeable and well balanced in their opinions. They defined democracy the way it should be, not just the interpretation of the US and the west. And they expressed their views well and confidently. All these show how much China has progressed from the days when the Chinese were bullied and looked down upon by the more advanced countries then.
Taiwan absolutely will continue to have independence. There is not way Taiwan will become like Xinjiang Uyghurs being murdered 3 MILLION of them, and their body organs sold to evil china organ trade. There is no way Taiwan will be a part of that!! We will fight and defeat evil china!!
I’m a chinese but the opinions in mainland is also deviant. Because A lot of Mainlanders don’t know that the fact Taiwan is Republic of China. And a large number of Mainland Chinese believe Republic of China has died. Therefore, their opinions are still deviant. And this is also a problem incentivizing the rise of Separatist movement in Taiwan because they cannot use the name The Republic of China中华民国. And therefore don’t have the concept Of China anymore instead of having the concept Taiwan more
Maybe one day the good people of Taiwan will be able to share with their mainland Chinese friends how to have a representative government. China will need to have at least one more political party and the complete freedom for all citizens to criticize their government first.
they already have freedom to criticize the government, and the national people's congress is fully elected and represents the people, just like the legislative/executive branch is supposed to do in the US. The founding fathers tried to make the US not have political parties, but the USSR, Cuba, & China succeeded by exercising democracy though a single party that is essentially just the gov't.
I am disgusted by some of their political stances, but I also recognize that they empathize with the Taiwanese people. I will never see eye-to-eye with the people interviewed on so many issues, but I also recognize that they as people are worthy of respect, and are not responsible for the crimes against humanity committed by the CCP.
I love how thick the propaganda is from the answers in this video? 1 - the girl who says Taiwan is historically China’s before it was ceded to Japan - Taiwan was ruled by own its indigenous for thousands of years and was first ruled by the Dutch and Spainish before China. Historically, it can’t even be disputed that it’s China’s territory. 2 - The guy who said Taiwan isn’t part of the interests of the US but then says the US is operating everything behind the scenes. - Although the US isn’t operating things behind the scenes, that guy’s two ideas contradict each other. 3. the guy who is saying China should prepare for aggression if Taiwanese don’t claim their “Chinese” - this is the ideology of a dangerous person. That guy is not a good person at heart.
1.google it and And compare the time，Before you say dumb words 3.Will you try to Reunify America.If the Confederate States of America Still rule texas today，And texas people Have stopped thinking them as americans? I saw a huge smell of western propaganda in your Comment.
Still relevant today in 2024. Mainland Chinese have more of a clue than Taiwanese.Taiwanese youths are not prepared for the future with the Chinese mainland. I wish for peaceful reunification of Taiwan with the Chinese mainland. Chinese people on both side of the strait are family.
3:17 I don't know enough about the Taiwan v. China history, but using this guy's logic Canada would belong to USA, or vice versa. Puerto Rico, Mexico, and most of South America would belong to Spain, and on.
@@sakurakou2009 He said "We speak the same language, share the same culture". But if you want to go by who colonized who, then by your logic just change US and Canada to Britain, I guess and throw in Brazil to Portugal, etc.
@@mechanic6682 from what I know majority of taiwanese are han chinese and china during qing dynasty did have authority over taiwan island , until japanese invaded it and the after ww2 japan surrendered all land they conolized including taiwan , and repablic of china the nationalists did claim taiwan as part of china , not just taiwan they claimed mangolia and whole of manchuria and part central asia too , and chai kai shik was pro reunion with mainland But under his goverment , for long time after mao took over mainland , EU only acknowledged nationalist goverment as only legitimate goverment of whole of china and mao government as illegal , their also was many attempts to retake the mainland , it only recently that taiwan goverment changed and went for whole dependent and want to claim they their own country which is not recognized by any country in world , no one acknowledge taiwan as sovereign country not even america
@@sakurakou2009 So we should go back to before 1895? Like I said I don't know. I was just addressing the logic stated by a particular guy at a specific time on a video.
@@mechanic6682 you dont need to go back to anything , china does have legitimate claim over island of taiwan as part of it historical land , and all countries around world acknowlage that , so what right does america have to interfere in internal affairs of sovereign country ? , imagine if china armed south america seperatists and kept sending weapons and high official of china visited south America to deepen relation with south American seperatists ? , america didnt even hesitant to invade cuba over soveit helping them , and america invaded alot of countries , they even invaded Vietnam that right next door to china , and they did try to invade china during korean war they wanted to nuke china , china have all right reasons to be aware of america and west yet in my opinion china been so patient , like whole situation with hongkong if it was me I would have demanded hongkong to be returned to china right after ww2 , but china remained claim and allowed britian to reoccupy hongkong after japanese surrendered , No westren country would ever tolerate what china historically tolerated from westren countries bully , and I saw chinese comments over taiwan situation most chinese dont want war they just dont want their country to be divided and threatened all time .
These people have almost no understanding of their own problems, the shortcomings of their system in causing the current problems which prevent any possibility of reunification. Those who really understand almost all believe the prospects of reunification as defined by Beijing is close to zero. No chance at all.
Oh yea? China coming from dirt poor to the second biggest economy but hey I’d love to hear your analysis on the shortcoming. Maybe you have solutions for China and can bring the Chinese people to world domination? Please entertain us with your so called solution that you can do better or you know better than the current leaders of the Chinese regime! But remember, China is the second biggest economy, any of your solution doesn’t exceeds that are just horse shit
It's people giving their opinions, if you don't like it's fine. I could say that people from your country are brainwashed but that would just be mean❤, so I won't. Say no to war
The Soviet Union once lost its ideological guidance because of the cultural invasion of western countries. We have experience, and how much impact will the scale of 1.4 billion people have on the platform?
@@桃落六苍 The Soviet Union also massacred millions and enslaved millions more prior to its fall. To be fair, it seems China is taking notes from the Gulags from what they're doing in Xinjiang.
@@桃落六苍this 'cultural invasion' is called freedom of thought, Russians were not coerced to have western thought, they were allowed freedom of thought and could see both sides and used their own rationality to be convinced
no, i don't think so. Just because they didn't spit out those words that you like to hear ....the anger and dissatisfaction, then you don't accept it, pity you.....how many types of democracy do you think, exist in this world? Please don't quote US and UK democracy...... which i think its more of Capitacracy. Mind you im not from China but Malaysia which is also a Democracy country. And we have many more political parties as choices compared to US.
Everything is CCP watching you! Relaxe. its more like the West media making you so paranoid. These people are not famous or important people in China. They are not like big TickTok Influencer.
@@MrAbkleeparliamentary democracies arent more democratic than parliamentary systems just because theres more parties, they have ups and downs, for example in parliamentary systems you cant really vote certain parties out of office because theres almost always centrist coalitions
I am from Malaysia and sometime I am playing online game that have friends from China and Taiwan. To my surprise, Chinese and Taiwanese were able to communicate well when we are in same lobby and in fact we are having blast.
Just because they both speak Chinese language is not a good reason for Taiwan to surrender itself to China. Canada and USA both speak english and are close. Should Canada be forced to join USA? Or both countries be forced to rejoin England? No!
@@tinah142 read history,.dude.
@@tinah142 連基本的國共內戰歷史都沒搞清楚，就來評論，搞笑嗎？？
War is extremely anti-human. Most human nature don’t even like verbal confrontations. We like to get along with each other. Don’t be manipulated by dirty politicians!
@@tinah142 Taiwan is a Republic of China, it is the actual government of China but it loses to communist china
This video deserves more and more viewers!
Mainland Chineses know outside world , but outside world don't know China...
That’s a bit of an over generalisation. It’s mostly Chinese who live in larger cities that knows much about the outside world, not so much of those in rural areas or those in a non metropolitan area.
Also it’s pretty difficult to know about modern China when your government always places ridiculous censorship on what goes in and out as compared to its neighbours like South Korea or japan.
@@egoamigo-1377 You obviously don't know much about China...your 25 cent opinion doesn't buy much. Amigo my a$$ , you aren't an Asian. You're a sino phobia!
@@kennedy6618 I am Asian buddy. How shocking! An Asian criticising another country in Asia? That totally never happens! China isn’t the only Asian country country mate.
In what way the things I said are incorrect? An interview of people in Shanghai would be a lot different than an interview in changzhou.
@@egoamigo-1377 Ola Amigo mentiroso! De Nuevo no sabes mucho sobre China.
@@egoamigo-1377 Know this, in this world, every single government needs to put certain types of censorship here and there to keep political and social stability. When it comes to China, you have to take 1.3 billion population into consideration. More people, more troubles and less resources for per person. Countries with small or medium population are much easier to control and manage.
It is disheartening for me to hear Mainland Chinese people say they are willing to use force to subjugate Taiwan. I believe the average Chinese person is reasonable and empathetic, but there is so much more for Taiwan to lose than for China to gain in violent conflict. Taiwan was subjugated by Japan yes, and as well as by the KMT, however it has been developing its own sense of collective nationhood for the past century. Let China and Taiwan maintain friendly relations, and if it happens - grow close through cultural exchange and soft power, rather than through intimidation tactics. Sadly I know Taiwan is a pawn in the game between the US and China, and so its own desires cannot be fairly assessed. Even if the mainland views Taiwan as a part of itself, it no longer governs it - the stance is merely ideological. And lest it not be forgotten, Taiwan was an Austronesian island whose people still live to this day, before China even gave it passing glance.
according to the logic in your last sentence, the white in US should go back to EU, for the indian still live in the land from the past to the present.
The PRC has never ruled Taiwan. Unless you’re referring to the Qing Dynasty, in which case Taiwan was already a Japanese colony by the time the ROC overthrew it.
That's easier saying it, but doing are 2 totally different things. People don't realise it, but America has been funding the succession, seperation of Taiwan from China's sovereignty ever since they split up, because that's what the US wants. I see Taiwan as just another vassal puppet government catering to US interests, rather than the interests of the Taiwanese people. If you ask the people, in Taiwan today, they don't want war, confrontation, it's the same shit in South Korea, people don't wanna live in constant fear anymore, so this constant fear, is perpetrated by America on purpose, so they can sell more weapons, make money, profit from these tensions, that's why US does it, but that's only 1 reason. Other slreasons are due to geopolitical, strategic reasons.
If US can control Taiwan, they can setup military bases there in Taiwan, the other reason is, economic reasons & political reasons, for containing a rising China, competitor to US.
America is using Taiwan as a proxy for any future confrontation with China, just as US is using NATO, against Russia, same crap in Ukraine, a proxy war. Follow the money trail, it leads back to the culprits.
@@zhongguojiayou2675 you see, this is why we taiwanese h8te china, you think you and the US have control over us and we have no rights to decide for ourselves
"I see Taiwan as just another vassal puppet government catering to US interests, rather than the interests of the Taiwanese people."
who are you to say that? again with the tyrant mentality, you think you know everything and we dont,
"If you ask the people, in Taiwan today, they don't want war, confrontation, it's the same shit in South Korea, people don't wanna live in constant fear anymore, so this constant fear, is perpetrated by America on purpose"
any human in their right minds would be against war if you want war you're anti-human, and the only reason there's gonna be war between Taiwan and china is because we dont want to be a part of china and we love democracy, and CHINA THREATHENS to take us by force, now, who's really creating the fear? how exactly does the US create fear in this situation?
"If US can control Taiwan, they can setup military bases there in Taiwan, the other reason is, economic reasons & political reasons, for containing a rising China, competitor to US.
America is using Taiwan as a proxy for any future confrontation with China"
once again with the tyrant mentality, we are a sovereign and independent country, the US does not tell us what to do , if suddenly all taiwanese people decide they want to be a part of china then the US cant do shit about it, you cant face the reality that china has the worst reputation in the world and that's one of the biggest reasons we do not wanna be a part of it, thanks no thanks, you enjoy your dictatorship while we celebrate democracy
The US may be a villain but china is definitely not one of the good guys
@@MillennialAngst 但是中华人民共和国是继承了中华民国之后唯一合法的中国，这是联合国公认的，其次联合国也并不承认中华民国的存在因为基于一个中国政策。
I exremely hope we can more communicate than before between mianlands and taiwan in the future. Every things can friendly negotiate only if the destination is to enable their citizens to live a better life
But how to communicate if the opinions of the people there are not allowed to be spoken out !?
I mean we can talk about how bad the policies of Mao are but the moment someone mentions his failures this person goes to prison and the conversation is over ……
So there can’t be a conversation without free speech. U get that point !?
I mean if TH-cam would delete this video and delete ur comment and u would be in the US and the FBI knocks ur door and puts u into jail.
How am I supposed to answer to ur comment ?😉
Not gonna happen with all the propaganda and lies in the western msm.
How th did you get passed that great firewall of yours?
@@lsdairsoft536 🤓
Taiwan doesn't want to have friendly negotiations. The CCP has never had control of Taiwan it has no right to it's territory. The ROC has diversified greatly since the civil war and enjoys a prosperous economy and one of the most democratic governments in the world seperate from the CCP. Taiwan ranks 8th on the Global Democracy Index, while mainland China ranks 148th. The Taiwanese people don't want their freedoms taken away by an authoritarian regime. Not to mention the indigenous culture which wasn't a part of China until forceful annexation from the Qing Dynasty in the late 1600s.
They seem to have a lot of strong opinions on Taiwan without any consideration for what the people of Taiwan want.
what taiwanese want is not important because taiwan is land of china since qing dynasty
they are protecting what they want, there’s no issue for that, it’s a free world people can defend anything they want. and human nature are all the SAME, we can only see what we want to believe.
As a mostly Taiwanese gal of Chinese JEwish ancestry, I wanted to hear the Taiwanese side.
Well, you are hearing what the people of Shanghai want, is there any problem on that? Arn’t people of Shanghai not allowed to expressed their opinions? As for what the people of Taiwan want, I think you have to watch a similar styled street interview done in Taiwan, isn’t it. You can agree or disagree on any other person’s opinion but you can’t make a judgement as if you are the representative of all people in Taiwan. Back Off
@@Claire-lv9lc You are the only one getting angry. You should back off, plus the point stands - who in the video said the opinion of the majority of Taiwanese should be considered?
This video deserves more viewers
It would have a lot more views if China didn't block them from accessing TH-cam
To all my fellow countrymen in Mainland China, we overseas Chinese who were born in the west, see both sides of the coin here, including myself. It is one thing to have amicable friends from either side, Taiwan/China PRC. But to have this mind set, that America means well, isn't involved in any way, of the tensions between China, Taiwan, to expect America to play nice here, isnot only naive, but downright stupid. The American government has been funding, Taiwanese propaganda for decades, they've also been funding Anti-China propaganda for decades too. America are still funding such activities against China. People in China have to realise, that America doesn't care about Taiwan or the people there, they only care about dividing the people, splitting Taiwan from China's sovereignty, that's all America 🇺🇸 cares about. That's been their goal all along. Otherwise why else would America backed Chang Kai Shek for, because they wanted him to rule the rest of China, as a vassal state, just like Japan today. But thankfully they were unsuccessful, Chang Kai Shek lost against Mao, then KMT had to flee to Taiwan, ever since they lost, America has been funding them ever since, if it wasn't for US funds being funneled to these seperatist groups in Taiwan, such as the DPP party, Taiwan would've crumbled by now. Remember, Taiwan was under Martial Law from 1949 to 1987. That's a long time for martial law to be in place. So all this funding from America has tried to reimage, re design their proxy, their vassal officials in Taiwan as democratic, but if you look at the history, Taiwan from 1949 - 1987 was NOT a democratic government, it was a dictatorship, a vassal puppet government beholden to USA 🇺🇸 interests. It has been like that ever since the DPP took over from KMT.
Many Taiwanese citizens have relatives back in Mainland China, in various counties, provinces across mainland China. It serves no purpose for either side to fight against each other, because we all have the same blood running through our veins, we're all Chinese, all our ancestors are all Chinese. I've seen DPP for many years now, trying to de sinicise the Taiwanese population, trying to rewrite their own history, distancing themselves away from their own race, you cannot just hit delete key on your keyboard 🎹 & try to change your own identity. If a Taiwanese person went to America, Americans would still you as Chinese because of your skin colour.
We speak the same langauge for god sake, same culture, eat the same food etc.
Kind of reminds me of how Hong Kong used to be like.
The British whitewashed the history textbooks in Hong Kong to reflect their own version of Hong Kong history, to paint the British as benevolent rulers, who gave them opportunities, & improved their life's, this is what majority of younger generation in Hong Kong used to be taught. But this is far from the REAL History of how Hong Kong was like under British rule. No democracy, no democratic freedom, for ordinary Hong Kong people, all positions of government power was hand picked, chosen by the British. Banks, Education ministers, all hand picked Chosen by the British.
Ordinary HK citizens were treated as third class citizens on their own land, whilst British foreigners all had higher management positions.
This has given rise to traitors like Jimmy Lai Chee Ying, Martin Lee Chu Ming, Claudia Mo, Albert Ho, Anson Chan, Agnes Chow, Joshua Wong Chi Fung, Nathan Law, Sixtus Baggio Luerng, Jimmy Sham, Yau Wai Ching, Joey Siu, & many others like them.
Jimmy Lai, used his Apple Daily & Next Media as propaganda outfits, to brainwash the population, to hate their own country, guess what, America was funding Jimmy Lai, Martin Lee & many others like them via National Endowment For Democracy aka NED. Who funds NED? Its the US government, US Congress directly funds NED, which is a propaganda outfit created by CIA in 1980's, because the CIA were caught red handed washing dirty money in banks. This is the exact same thing what the British did in Hong Kong, using HK Triads, to wash dirty money in HK banks, hence why HK had to create ICAC, to stamp out the corruption, but they don't tell you that it was the British who were also heavily involved with HK Triads, in that dirty operation, you don't hear that in any rubbish biased western msm.
People in China should learn from history, that America is a country NOT to be trusted EVER. Look what they did to those Japanese War criminals,
they let them all go free from any future prosecution, all those butchers, from UNIT 731, Shiro Ishii, were all set free, in exchange for the scientific data from UNIT 731 & various other places like UNIT 731. Look at Ukraine, look at the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, for 56 years, America turned a blind eye, to Palestinians for 56 years, still taking sides in the conflict.
Goodness, this sounds very familiar to how young Russians felt about Ukraine(we speak the same language, we have the same traditions, we have the same culture, etc). They went on to say that Ukraine were a desperate people, didn’t know russia had democracy, and wanted to be a part of Russia. Then when they finally went to Ukraine and found out that Ukraine was a well off nation and really didn’t want anything to do with Russia.
@@riorio745 thank you, I realize the situations are, in fact, different. While the specific politics and technicalities differ, their POVs remain eerily similar.
The key point you're missing or deliberately ignoring is that they see Taiwan's "secession" from China as a violation from colonial powers during the century of humiliation. Taiwan was colonized by Japan. Hong Kong was colonized by the British in the opium war -- which, mind you, happened because the british parliament voted to invade china when China banned British opium in China because it was destroying their nation. When China was weak, the West didn't give it human rights or the right to self-determination or self-governance, so you can bet they're not going to listen to preaching. I find it so weird that you're intentionally ignoring this aspect. The POV is not similar, you just dont understand post-colonial trauma.
Taiwan is not that well off. 😂😂😂 Ukraine isa sovereign nation and Taiwan has always been part of China. People have the right to leave but the land is ours. Hoping for a peaceful reunification but we prepare for the worst.
@@lucyfiniarel2347 This is what I had in mind, China for a long time was bullied by western powers so I'm not surprise with their attitude now since they rose in power
抱歉，台灣用的憲法是一部追求統一的憲法
The girl said that the US doesn't know much about 'our democracy!' Almost 300 Chinese companies are listed on US stock markets with a CAP of almost $1Trillion. I think they do!
By equating "companies" with Chinese democracy is exactly what she's talking about. You can't do that and assume you know anything about their political positions or cultural ideologies.
Very few countries tolerate secessionism. The only example I can think of is the UK, where in just the past two decades or so, they've been tolerant of the idea of the peaceful secession of Scotland and Northern Ireland. But even so, this is built on a history of centuries of the use of force to keep those lands in the union, not to mention the violence needed to maintain their colonies.
Canada had a referendum for Quebec secession. The only real example of violent crackdowns on secessionist movements in Europe is Spain, which has been heavily criticized by other western democracies. The US technically doesn't allow secession either but there is 0 chance any state is going to secede from the union.
@@apollo1694 In modern Europe: Ireland, Basque Country vs Spain and France, Yugoslavia including Kosovo, Greece vs Turkey including Cyprus, Armenia vs Azerbaijan including Nagorno-Karabakh, Georgia, Russia, Ukraine, Israel.
Before Canada's referendum was the FLQ and the October Crisis. Similar, though not identical, things still happen with First Nations, like the Oka Crisis.
@@unifieddynasty Ireland is not a secessionist movement. Basque County is something I already mentioned. Serbia, Russia and Ukraine are hardly part of the "west" as a political bloc. Armenia, Azerbaijan, Israel aren't even in Europe.
@@apollo1694 Ireland as a whole was a secessionist movement. Northern Ireland is still a secessionist region. When you mentioned Spain, I thought you meant Catalonia, but Basque Country also works provided you also include France. "West" was never a qualifier in this thread. Armenia, Azerbaijan, Israel are commonly grouped with Europe. Point is, even in Europe, secessionism is often violent and met with violence. And importantly, I never limited my original position to just Europe, or Western Europe.
It’s not secession when the Chinese Communist Party never ruled over Taiwan before. When WWII ended in 1945, Japan surrendered the island to the Republic of China. The People’s Republic of China was not established until 1949. The Republic of China fled and formed the government of Taiwan.
Lot of Americans here thinking they have the moral high ground lecturing the Chinese about other peoples’ sovereignty.
they didn't care about china history,taiwan belong to china since qing dynasty
Chinese people in this intwrview think they have the moral high ground getting to decide Taiwanese sovereignty
@@TheKewlPerson Taiwan only exists because they had a civil war and America backed one side to prevent a conclusion. Imagine the Chinese armed and supported confederate independence in 1860. That doesn’t sound very popular either.
@@bjornbuckley Except unlike the CSA, the ROC has existed for even longer than the PRC. If anything, the US was supporting the legitimate country created by Sun Yat Sen's revolution.
@河南高素质土著不偷井盖不骗保险 None of those states want independence. All you do is draw false comparisons with random US subdivisions who have 0 intention of secession, unlike Taiwan
It's unfortunate that they don't know why so many Taiwanese are against reunification with China and they think its due to outside influences.
First of all I would say it's a generational thing.
For instance the first Chinese who fled to Taiwan after the civil war, they obviously had a deep bond with the mainland. Their children, the first generation who were born and raised in Taiwan, had some notion of China from their parents through stories or whatnot. However since they grew up during the Cold War most of them did not have a first hand experience of China until the 90s early 2000s. Moving on to the generation who grew up in the post martial law era in Taiwan. Most of them did not grow up with any particular sense of unity with the mainland largely because they didn't have parents that really experienced China. Also it was already certain in everybody's mind that the ROC would never retake the mainland thus pro indepedence became the alternative.
The second reason, and I believe it was the real turning point was how the CCCP handled the HK protests. The people of HK were fighting for all the things the Taiwanese hold dearly. It was like a preview of what would happen to Taiwan if it ever reunified with China.
I am personally for peaceful co-existence, something like the U.S and Canada but I am against reunification. Despite speaking the same langauge and both consisting mostly of Han Chinese. I think there are still significant differences that cannot be easily ironed out.
Still cant stop reunification china gonna reunite in this generation nobody gonna save ur ass
I completely agree with you ! A lot of Chinese like to say that Taiwan has the same culture and language as China so they should be part of China… So what about North and South Korean? North India and Pakistan ? Canada and the US ? Just don’t recognize all of these countries if they want to say that argument everytime. They don’t want to see from the Taiwanese point of view and you explained it very well
@@YusufAlMansouri wtf? Us too 🤣🤣
Just like north and south korea, there are 2 chinas, one governed by the PRC and one by the ROC, culturally it been more than 70 years, when the us move from uk , 70 years equal cultural change, no longer identify as british as they have their own government, culture and way of life
There are more differences between Hui, Mongolians and Uyghurs with the main chinese groups than those Chinese groups with Taiwan, so all those minorities should get independence? The only big difference between Taiwan and China are the Goverments, I dont believe any nation should be divided by politics, once there is a clear winner, reunification should be accepted. More than 70 years of US statehood happened before the Civil war started, so different cultures developed in each side and yet war and reunification happened.
Hope Taiwan and China always in peace...
统一就永远和平了
前提是绝对不能搞台湾独立，这个是前提也是底线！就像马英九时代两岸关系多好，看看现在民进党时代非要把关系搞臭！！
@@jackychen5578 not really
@@hominhduc3200 Absolutely, 100%
I didn't expect a jojo logo in this video
Taiwan #1!!
joke
@@dk.magic.mobile108 jokes on you
Which field
The Chinese people definitely need to be communicating with the Taiwanese more like what the last lady said. They should learn what the Taiwanese people want- reunification or not, despite history and everything. History can just be thrown out the window if the current people living there do not wish for a reunification.
history thrown out to window?no,we chinese never forget history
@@dk.magic.mobile108 YOU Chinese Don't know history. 别说废话!
Unfortunately, you can’t change the trend of history.
Chinese people in Taiwan province mainly want better life. People in mainland want our land back and the country to be whole.
@@huiqinjinxi4514When you say “our land” are you suggesting that the people of Taiwan should be kicked out of their homes and put into camps like the uighurs?
上海不愧是中国最发达的城市👍
China has a great future
the fat that mainland Chinese think they can decide the future of Taiwanese citizens is beyond insane. The fact is recent polls show that an overwhelming majority of Taiwanese believe in a Taiwanese identity, and the rest of the world don't see Taiwan as a part of china. No one would say that Beijing is the capital of Taiwan, everyone knows that Taipei is the capital. Not only that just because someone has a shared language and culture doesn't give you the right to claim it as your territory since you consider them the 'same' people. For example majority of Singaporeans are Chinese, speak mandarin and follow Chinese culture. Does that mean China can now claim Singapore as a part of their country? South Koreans speak Korean, does that mean North Korea now claims South Korea is a province of North Korea?
1.4 billion Chinese people all support the military reunification of Taiwan as soon as possible!!! This is true, but the government is unwilling to do so~~~
1.4billion brainwashed people . I dare one chinese man or member of parliament to go outside and protest about xi and i bet you wont see him after a couple of weeks.
發現大叔們都好會嘮嗑
上海街訪看得出其應有的教育水準
Bing chilling
@@lsdairsoft536冰淇淋🍦
wow.... i don't know what to say.... i couldn't finish watching the entire video..... this is just wow... i'm kind of speechless after this. Why does it matter if Taiwan is part of China or not? If you ask the people living in Hong Kong, 9 out of 10 will say that are not happy and that their lives have not improved until China rule. Taiwan's true brother in arm is Hong Kong because they understand each other. Chinese people think that they stand at the top of Asian race/culture but don't bite off more than you can chew. No matter how big China is, it can't go against all the rest of the Asian countries surrounding them. That girl said they have the right to vote. Ok, for crap that isn't important. Can you vote for a new president? Oh wait. Your current president just erased the rule about have a "term" in office. He is now literally your president until he wishes tor resign or until he dies. Then who appoints the new president? Do you go and vote on it? No you don't. I can go in front of the white house in Taiwan and America and say the "F" word and walk away and they can't do anything. Do you think anyone has the balls to do that in China? Why is your VPN restricted from the rest of the world? Because big brother China government wants to be all knowing on what you are doing. I could rant for hours.... but i'm done.
hong kong and taiwan belong to china since ancient time so hong kongers and taiwanese can go to the west and give back hk and tw to cn
Why do u want to vote for a new president?? R u an political science expert? Do you know how to run a economy? Why would a country be lead by people who are voted into office by normal citizens??? Look at US. Look at the Congress, 90 percent of the people stay in office forever. It’s corrupt. Why don’t u go to the US and look at rural areas, looks like a third world country. How bout not being brainwashed and recognized that Taiwan people are Chinese people too.
If you think as an American your government represent you, you will find out also how draconian US government can be if you mess or offend this empire. US has the largest prison system and had lock up more of her citizen as much as the CCP. You have to be careful about your free spreech too and make sure it is politically correct or other wise the will also come after you.
We don’t vote for our president but we can vote to decide who becomes the head of our village or community. Isn’t this enough? We vote for what is directly relevant to us as a resident.
People in Hong Kong used to be slaves under the rule of UK. But China just spoiled its baby HongKong.China gives pretty much everything that HongKong wants and people in Hong Kong just take it for granted and want more and more from its mother mainland China.
2:00----------------------this guy is so RIGHT !
Nonsense, democracies also have political correctness yes, but in democracies you will get shamed, in China your opinion will be censored or you will face legal action, this is very different
覺得中國普通民眾在訪談的言行就比其他東亞國家高了不止一級
首先大城市，人均学历高。还有就是，中国人的教育，尤其是政治教育推崇唯物主义辩证法，抛开现象看本质，更深层次地研究问题
透过现象看本质
I’m all for it!
Everyone wants a better life - US and China not withstanding! Do you do this by giving them free fish, or teaching them to fish?
It makes no sense to me that because Taiwanese people dont recognise themselves as chinese that that warrants them being invaded? In the UK we have a saying "some people are gay get over it" I think we could say "some people are Taiwanese get over it"
taiwanese can go to the west but taiwan is land of china since qing dynasty
@@dk.magic.mobile108 the CCP wants to claim the land of the dynasties who's culture they destroyed lol
Taiwan can literally become an unsinkable carrier for USA army. So yeah Taiwan has to understand that they are a real piece in the American chess. So reunification has to be the most secure outcome for China.
@@Hahaha41241 re unification, Taiwan was never ruled by the ccp
@@chunkygoodness exactly tell me when the ccp ever had controlled Taiwan in the history on earth
上海阿叔阿姨讲话好有逻辑，思考也很深入，非常高质量的采访
很多大陆朋友都不了解目前台湾的政府叫做中华民国，中华民国实际上还没有正式灭亡😂。之所以台独势力越来越大，正是因为我们打压中华民国太多，台湾人基本上不实用不想中华民国，The republic of China.所以台湾人的中华思维越来越少，反而是台湾思维越来越多。台湾人在国际上也无法使用中华民国作为代表，只能使用台湾。从学术角度的话，台湾确实是一个独立的国家，他的名称叫做中华民国，也就是说中华民国实际上仍然存在，而且是一个国家，但并未被联合国承认，因为中华民国有一个独立的军队。国体的定义是用有一个独立的合法暴力机关，也就是说中华民国用有一个独立的合法暴力机关。目前之所以台独势力无法被认可还有一个原因是，台湾这个词语，是中华民国制度下的一个省，实际上台湾历史课上要学习中国的所有地区，包括蒙古也在中华民国的版图内。
所以现在有两个问题：1. 台独分子搞不清楚自己叫中华民国。 2. 大陆朋友们搞不清楚台湾实际归中华民国这个政权管辖，中华民国实际上还没有灭亡。（对于很多大陆人来讲，像一个活化石一样）
@@ericjiang7986 作为主权国家，中华人民共和国是不可能承认中华民国的存在事实的，这会严重挑战中共的统治合法性，这是作为一个国家政府的局限性，无法改变。14亿大陆人绝大部分我相信也不会愿意回到中华民国的状态。
其实除了96年导弹危机以及蔡英文上台后，90年代以后的大部分时间里，PRC一直对ROC是冷处理的，只要对岸政权不挑战一个中国原则，也就是发表“两个中国（两国论）和一中一台（台独论）”的政治主张，两岸的关系一直都是台上冷、台下热，想当年连战访华那是报道的多么浓墨重彩。
对中华民国的敏感度取决于说者的潜台词，如果是为了刻意区别台湾和大陆政权的话，那互相就没什么好客气的。如果是为了强调大家有着共同的历史，希望两岸能更加融合的发言，其实中共也并没有真的采取打压措施的。
2023年此时，马英九在大陆的讲话就是最有力的证明。
其实我觉得对台湾人最有利的是洪秀柱的“一中同表“，以联邦制形式统一在一个中国下，两岸互相自治，是最好的安排，而且这个对于中共的脾气来说是可以谈判的。可惜台湾人被洗脑太深，把最好的方案给扔了。
两岸不存在谁打压谁的问题。世界上只有一个中国，大陆和台湾都是中国的一部分，这是两岸无论宪法和政府都在坚持的事情呀。大陆人当然知道中华民国在台湾，但1971年联合国的2758号决议后，中华民国已经从中央政府变成地方割据政权了。1971年以前中华民国是中国的唯一合法中央政府，中华人民共和国是中国割据政权。两岸的政府虽然挣得你死我活，但有一个底线大家都坚持的，那就是世界上只有一个中国，两岸同属于一个中国。无论现在还和中华民国的国家，他们承认的也是中华民国是中国唯一合法政府呀。即使到现在，两岸依然是一个国家呀，至于台独势力爱怎么说就怎说嘛。现实是两岸是互不承认的，如果中华民国承认中华人民共和国是一个主权独立的国家，那就违反了中华民国的宪法呀。独立不独立不是学术问题，而是现实问题。除非台湾修改宪法，才能真正事实独立。否则在联合国、和除了中华民国邦交国的其他190多个国家眼里无论你叫中华民国、或台湾或中华民国台湾就不是一个国家。扯啥学术不学术不是很无聊，国际是讲现实不是讲学术的
@@chuyisheng 中华人民国内共和国如果承认中华民国的存在，那不仅仅是违宪和政权不保的问题，更是违反了联合国的决议和绝大多数国家建交的法律文件。所以不存在承不承认的事
Would've loved to hear her ask these people "How do you feel about a majority of the Taiwanese not supporting reunification?". I kind of get the feeling that they had to be very smart about the questions asked however, due to the Chinese Government's policies when it comes to the media there.
Yeah, ofc because the CCP is behind everybody at all time … You know for once if you could just use your brain you might found out it's better to use it. Ask the same question to spanish people about Catalunia, or Canadian people about Quebec, or American people about Texas.
But no i guess you need to use your double standard as much as possible.
As an ordinary Chinese citizen, let me tell you, "How do you feel about a majority of the Taiwanese not supporting reunification?" if China's 1.4 billion people vote to resolve whether Taiwan is peacefully reunified, I believe it will be supported by a minority. We hate Taiwan independence and Hong Kong independence. policy, discriminate against mainlanders, but the Chinese government is trying to control us and persuade us to be one family, this is democracy that you can't see in the west
The Chinese government does not let the people go hungry, and there is no fear of bullets. When going out at night, you can go shopping with friends, run, eat, anytime, anywhere. It will not ruin your life because of drug addiction, and it will not be ineffective because of domestic political infighting. To implement a policy, we only care about our own work, our own travel, our own family, and we are proud of our country with five thousand years of history. You still need to read more books. The media is oriented. Ability, watch less BBC
We are fully aware that a lot of young people in Taiwan don’t want the unification the mainlander have craved for so long due to the purposefully changing of their history curriculum books, but including Taiwan, the majority of Chinese will never let go of any piece of our land.
Btw, what do you mean about the media? At least our media doesn’t lie as yours.
Trust me, the majority knows that. And the Chinese gov is censoring every thread regarding anti Taiwan sentiments. Taiwanese should be grateful that the CCP is actually protecting them. The Chinese citizens are slowing abandoning the peaceful unification stance.
What I don't understand is why ordinary Chinese people care so much about Taiwan being a part of China. What difference does it make to them personally?
Well, it would benefit China's economy if they could control Taiwan, which would likely have an effect on the lives of people in China. National pride as well.
Being friendly in attitude and symbolic gestures is enough. A functionally independent Taiwan but symbolically unified being Chinese I think is enough.. No one benefits from functional unification or symbolic independence, it's going to cause further issues for years to come. Status quo has worked well for a very long time and should stay that way.
WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY 🤡
Well they need to keep their Social Credit Score up
@@LordValorum 😂😂😂
China should learn from no US to do a regime change in Taiwan
The title is nonsense, mainland chinese and taiwan islanders are both Chinese. It is purely an ideological conflict.
Taiwanese people are only ethnically Chinese. The majority of Taiwanese people descripe themselves as only Taiwanese because thats their nationality
@@WinkelmanSM-3 The so-called TW nation is a BS, like a bunch of woke youngsters who formed a woke community with self-proclaimed titles. In fact, the real TW natives are those who lived in this island centuries ago with their own tribal languages prior to Japan and Dutch occupation, not those KMT remnants either. Even its official name is Republic of China, not Republic of Taiwan or something like that.
@@1917MSC You spent too much time in Quora and Reddit. Maybe time to visit Taiwan?
@@AC-he8ln I don't need a lecture from a degenerating boba-milk woke.
@@1917MSC So if you live in the Untied States, you're not American bc./ the real "Americans" are the natives. Okay.
The main point missing: Taiwanese have never been ruled by the CCP and they don’t want it either.
End of discussion.
I support Taiwan and China reunification if the Taiwanese people want it. If not, I don't support it.
那也给中国大陆一次洗脑台湾人民的机会嘛
公投能代表民主吗？对于民主党的支持者来说，特朗普做总统是民主的吗？应该由全中国人民决定。
I don’t think a lot of us want it.
3:17 so by that extent, the US should still be a part of england because we both speak english, right?
god what an idiotic thing to say
No, canada should be part of US though.
Taiwan has been part of China for centuries and they are not fundamentally different.
@@narthiirian nope
@@narthiirian By century you mean 250 years?
@@narthiirian Have you even been to Taiwan?
@@AznPr1des Taiwan isn't a country, not even recognized by Republic of China in their constitution.
Taiwan will cooperate with US and Japan to divide China into different countries. It is the right thing to do for democratic countries. Taiwan can help, whether China like it or not.
US and Lapdog Japan 😂😂😂… please try… we are waiting
😂😂 what a joke...
@@Roobin_19 China is a joke. 🤣
As a Merkin I love hearing from the people on the street and not the CCP or US government. All interviewed seem likeable.
I think I would love sitting down to dinner and talking to these people in my crappy Mandarin about stuff. ( They would have to be patient with me. )
They seem to know more about the US than they do in Europe. Both China & Europe have problems with the US government, but
seem to like individuals ( like me ) from the US. I hope reunification is peaceful. My impression of Taiwanese is that they want to unify ( mostly ).
Taiwanese dont want to unify, just do a simple google search
Yes Taiwan Is Always a Part Of China ..
We Asian Support Peaceful unification .
Haha. And all of mainland China was once part of the Mongol Empire. China therefore belongs to Mongolia.
We have Democracy, but we don't believe in a separatist movements. LOL that is the funniest thing I've heard today
GONNA CRY ?
You know what is even funnier? Democratic countries wanting a country like China to be a liberal democracy. Isn't democracy about one's own freedom to choose and not be told or forced? China is happy the way it is. Now that's funny!
So should the Confederate States have had the right to secede in 1860?
Bcoz democracy is not an absolute thing. Even in some "democratic" countries, there are ideologies that are banned like communism islamism or nazism etc.
they call it chinese special democracy. Fun fact, a chart in baidu says taiwan is the least democratic "country"
We need to respect the citizens of Taiwanese people. If they vote and win for independence, then China has no right to use force as they are doing right now. If Taiwan wishes to be part of China, then US has no right to intervene.
They aren't using force rn though. China generally supports reunification, but there is not currently an active reunification effort in place.
What about Okinawa and Hawaii independence.
@Jilong Xie majority of people in okinawa and Hawaii dont want to be independent currently. Its just few people
@@TomTomdog Because they are military controlled by US and Japan. If these countries' military power get lost, the local people there will declare independence quickly. Second, although you guys keep saying that Taiwan is an independent country, but yet it still has not officially declare independence. Even the US high command in Indo-pacific does not support Taiwan's independence. Taiwan's ownership will be decided by the comparison of China and US military power.
@@TomTomdog you know that, how? Imagination?
To be exact Taiwan was decently happy being in status quo, but the chairman decided to say one sentence and turned everything upside down and then doubling down on it 😐
force was never ruled out by any chairman
這個標題本來就有問題，為什麽把中國和台灣並列而不是內地和台灣？台灣是中國不可分割的一部份，這樣的標題令人誤以為是兩個國家😓
因為這些人偶爾會忘了洗腦自己，畢竟台灣怎麼看都是個國家。
指鹿為馬難免會忘
@@kristen1195 説別人指鹿爲馬之前先看看自己是不是睜著眼説瞎話吧，中華民國不是中國？ROC的C代表的是什麽你不能先去看看自己的護照封面嗎？靠腰嘞不會你到現在連外國都沒去過吧
Because we are two different countries, lol.
@@Joy-pd8iq Nah, that depends where the PLA's missiles are deploied, remember, IF YOU DON'T WILLING TO DIE FOR YOUR "COUNTRY", JUST STFU
@@thanq7934 well you sound fun at parties, ThanQ very much 🤷🏻♀️
"Taiwan people don't understand our mainland democracy, so we will explain it by military invasion."
LOL! Priceless. When they tell you who they are, believe them.
She literally stated that she would only support forceful reunification if western countries attempted to use Taiwan to threaten china militarily (ie, the US setting up military bases with weapons pointed at China). Did you watch the video???
@@forever-and-a-day2043nah he/ she just threw a strawman fallacy to get likes😂. The other person knows what they are doing and just wants to get likes lol
0:25 Most citizens of the PRC can't travel to Taiwan (RoC) unless they are in a tour group.
A fact many PRC citizens ignore is "Taiwan" is already independent. The RoC was founded in 1912 and has yet to cease to exist since then. The CCP was the rebellious faction that was separatist and created a new nation (the PRC).
1:55 Lol, there is no freedom of speech in the PRC, that kid is delusional. Freedom of speech is being able to say things w/o your government punishing you. In the PRC you can get arrested/detained for saying anything that the government (CCP) doesn't agree with. Covid deaths? Jailed. The PRC isn't a democracy, jailed. Expressing the fact Taiwan has never been a part of the PRC, jailed.
Lots of good CCP lapdogs, talking about 'democracy in the PRC.' But if they don't like the leadership (such as Xi), can they vote him out of power? NOPE. Who is allowed to run in elections that they do get to vote in? The CCP. You can only vote for CCP approved candidates.
3:01 Perhaps he needs to read the PRC's constitution. It says, very plainly, that the PRC is led by a dictatorship. Clueless fools.
3:17 Speaking the same language, having much of the same culture... So in his opinion, are Chinatowns across the world part of the PRC too? What about Singapore? This is a very flawed way of thinking that quite a few citizens of the PRC have.
3:28 She knows about Taiwan being ceded, but doesn't acknowledge the RoC being founded in 1912, or that in 1945 the PRC didn't exist, so who did Japan hand the island over to? Well, not the Qing Dynasty, as they were replaced by the RoC.
3:50 Ahhh, another misunderstanding by many PRC citizens. Chinese is both an ethnicity, and a nationality. People in HK and the ROC don't deny that they are ethnically Chinese, but many in those areas want nothing to do with the nation of China (PRC), currently led by the CCP.
5:38 Exactly, and joining the PRC doesn't interest them. For those that thought maybe it could work out, the CCP showed them how the CCP operates. 2 systems 1 country for HK? No, 1 system 1 country. People didn't stop protesting in HK because they suddenly started approving of the CCP, they stopped protesting because the CCP cracked down on them.
6:06 Another clueless citizen. Yup, the island of Taiwan was given up by Japan. But did the PRC exist in 1945? NOPE. This is the level of intellectual dishonesty that so many citizens of the PRC have.
6:25 Wow, this guy is really clueless. Most people in HK didn't want independence, they simply wanted the CCP to uphold the deal they struck w/ the UK, for the rights, freedoms, and legal system that were in place in HK to persist for 50 years before the CCP changed things. The CCP couldn't even wait 50 years. But, I guess in his defense, he is only exposed to CCP approved media, so he gobbles up every lie he is told.
7:15 Also, another thing PRC citizens gloss over. Why does "Taiwan" have more culture? Because the CCP/Mao instigated the Cultural Revolution destroying much of that in the PRC. The CCP is to blame, but they don't recognize that fact, they still hold up Mao as some great leader of a nation, when all he was was a great leader of a revolution.
7:17 "Our high-speed rail" Oh, so the interviewer is also a citizen of the PRC.... Yeah, we'll see if the RoC lets a high-speed rail connection be built between the PRC and RoC.
But, what this video does show is how effective CCP propaganda is. A nation full of delusional people, ignoring major historical points so that they may maintain certain views that help big brother.
What I see is that people around the world are becoming increasingly divided, and prejudice is triumphing over reason.BTW I live in China mainland.
@@ER-89757 "BTW I live in China mainland."
What is non-mainland China?
很客观的采访
上海老阿叔素质很高
說個笑話，上海起薪1萬，牛逼
美国大肆宣扬中国大陆人素质低下😂，我都无语了
很多大陆朋友都不了解目前台湾的政府叫做中华民国，中华民国实际上还没有正式灭亡😂。之所以台独势力越来越大，正是因为我们打压中华民国太多，台湾人基本上不实用不想中华民国，The republic of China.所以台湾人的中华思维越来越少，反而是台湾思维越来越多。台湾人在国际上也无法使用中华民国作为代表，只能使用台湾。从学术角度的话，台湾确实是一个独立的国家，他的名称叫做中华民国，也就是说中华民国实际上仍然存在，而且是一个国家，但并未被联合国承认，因为中华民国有一个独立的军队。国体的定义是用有一个独立的合法暴力机关，也就是说中华民国用有一个独立的合法暴力机关。目前之所以台独势力无法被认可还有一个原因是，台湾这个词语，是中华民国制度下的一个省，实际上台湾历史课上要学习中国的所有地区，包括蒙古也在中华民国的版图内。
所以现在有两个问题：1. 台独分子搞不清楚自己叫中华民国。 2. 大陆朋友们搞不清楚台湾实际归中华民国这个政权管辖，中华民国实际上还没有灭亡。（对于很多大陆人来讲，像一个活化石一样）
大陸遲早要回歸到中華民國
俄狗紅二呆共奴制=沒市場
一二九運動,西安事變,七二一方針
共產不共產, 共匪沒抗日
改革開放,少民主
共產黨鬥地主, 鬥完地主成地主
那就是内战没结束？接着打就是了。把偏安一隅的旧王朝彻底搓成灰，实现中国全境的改朝换代！
The UN doesn't decide if a territory is a country or not, so that's a useless point to bring up.
The RoC changed its view on Mongolia quite awhile ago. It no longer claims Mongolia as part of the RoC.
What does Taiwan being a province of the RoC have to do w/ the RoC not being a country? The RoC also has other provinces, or at least one. Are you familiar w/ Kinmen Island? It's not part of the province of Taiwan.
If people in the RoC don't know that the RoC is the name of their country, that's sad. As The Republic of China is on their passports, currency, and is stated in official political meetings. Also, they (should) recognize the RoC was founded in 1912.
And you mention independence forces. But you also admit that the RoC hasn't ceased to exist since it was established in 1912. So, how can there be independence forces when they are already independent? You seem to have been infected w/ CCP propaganda, so you're saying some things that are silly, while still admitting things that are true that the CCP doesn't want the world to know/acknowledge.
联合国不决定一个领土是否是一个国家，所以提出这个问题毫无用处。
中华民国早就改变了对蒙古的看法。 它不再声称蒙古是中华民国的一部分。
台湾是中华民国的一个省，与中华民国不是一个国家有什么关系？ 中华民国还有其他省份，或至少有一个省份。 你熟悉金门岛吗？ 它不属于台湾省。
如果 RoC 中的人不知道 RoC 是他们国家的名称，那就太可悲了。 由于中华民国在他们的护照、货币上，并在官方政治会议上注明。 此外，他们（应该）承认中华民国成立于 1912 年。
你提到了独立势力。 但你也承认，中华民国自1912年成立以来，并没有停止存在。那么，既然已经独立了，怎么会有独立势力呢？ 你似乎被中共的宣传感染了，所以你说了一些愚蠢的话，同时仍然承认中共不想让世界知道/承认的事情是真实的。
中华民国😂😂😂正式来说，两岸还是处于内战状态呢，这是台湾朋友希望的吗。
2:28 this dude's pnt is lost in TL: 民主 = citizen-primary -> democracy
这个世界上没有一个国家有民主
普通国民素质杠杠的
China 🇨🇳 bangladesh 🇧🇩 ♥️ ❤️
Your dad gave you independence?
Taiwan passport is better.
They are literally the same people, if the United States had not intervened this problem would have been solved decades ago. The difference between the two is political, not ethnic. In fact, if they have to talk about the history of both places, they will say exactly the same thing until 1949. Whatever happens from now on, it will be unfair
I wonder what election that young lady voted in?
They have their own way to do it, they are not obligated to use your own way
Google Elections in China.
在中国人们只能投票选举社区的主任或者村长。更高级别的领导不允许普通人选举，国家领导人更是不允许普通人选举。因为普通人不了解政治和国际形势，他们可能只是因为人长的帅就投出宝贵的一票。
你又参加了什么选举？
@@ishimweshadrack7041 so what might it be?
人民群众的眼睛是雪亮的
People opinion is the most important thing and Taiwanese don’t want unification. Chinese should know this
opinion of mainlander are important and china will get their land back
@@dk.magic.mobile108 history has proven that nothing can be achieved going against the will of people
@@amirhasan7845 Taiwan & Mainland are China territory, what if they vote together.
Unification or not.
@@indrajaya9585Does china has voting system? Its communism. And taiwanese love their democracy. They don’t want to be part of china. Taiwan belongs to Taiwanese, not chinese
@@dk.magic.mobile108 why would a mainlander who has never stepped foot on Taiwan have any say in the lives of the millions of Taiwanese people?
Taiwan not as modern and prosperous as Shanghai? haha no, they should look beyond the glitzy buildings.
Taiwan Like Southeast Asian style
@@조일선명 I don’t think so, it has rich noveau style. It has modern transportation and infrastructure and I wouldn’t call that low end.
@@diamondluck3851 The infrastructure is too shabby. The transportation is also somewhat Southeast Asian. Even in Taipei, it resembles the motorcycle army of Southeast Asia.There are some very interesting things that can't be explained by science, like the relationship between genetics-region and aesthetic style.I don't know if it is because Taiwan is near Southeast Asia, and Taiwanese also have Southeast Asian genes, so the aesthetic style is similar to Southeast Asia？even Taiwanese motorcycle hats are the same style as Southeast Asian motorcycle hats …
Their e pop culture aesthetic is also considered very outdated by mainlanders. Of course, 20 years ago, mainland Chinese loved Taiwanese pop culture.At that time, the group of mainlanders(KMT) who went to Taiwan in 1949 had not completely withered away. So the Taiwan aesthetic at that time had a "China "style.But in the last 20 years, Taiwanese culture has been localized and de-Sinicized. Their aesthetic becomes rural to mainlanders.
I can quickly tell which one is Taiwanese and which one is mainland by the way I dress. For example, Taiwanese people seem to be very fond of multi-coloured dressing styles, similar to those in Thailand. The mainlanders have a minimalist style of Northeast Asian style.Girls' makeup can be distinguished. Mainland girls' skin is whiter and their makeup is close to that of South Korea. Taiwanese girls have a mix of Japanese and Southeast Asian styles.
I call the two aesthetic styles "high latitude aesthetic" and "low latitude aesthetic".It is clear that Taiwan's aesthetic style has tropical characteristics.
The low-latitude aesthetic is often unpopular. Has nothing to do with the level of economic development.For example, Hong Kong's gdp per capita is higher than South Korea's, but Hong Kong's pop culture is not popular, and South Korea's pop culture is far more popular.Taiwanese youth are now influenced by mainland pop culture, and even Internet buzzwords are used from the mainland.
@@조일선명 I’m not referring to Taiwan’s pop culture but rather its infrastructure and transportation. What? its transportation is south east asian style? Then why is Taiwanese Rapid Transit System is voted as the best in the world? Much even better than Japan and Singapore. Yes some buildings in Taiwan is Shabby but that’s not the case as it also has some modern areas now and the shabby building you refer is what I actually mean as riche noveau, maybe run down but definitely a better interior and high price value. You should look beyond the buildings but look more on healthcare, transportation and safetiness which is an important factor of quality of life of a nation and Taiwan does better in that than China. I can’t name any SEA countries whose rapid transit system is better than Taiwan, this alone is I can consider as modern.
@@diamondluck3851 Admittedly much better than Southeast Asia, I mean the style, not the level. But it is true that the infrastructure is not as good as that on the mainland, so many mainlanders' first impression after visiting Taiwan is that it is very shabby and old.The building itself is an important part of the infrastructure.When it comes to traffic, not to mention the south of Taiwan, even in Taipei there are many motorcycle armies. It felt dangerous. The noise was very loud.It makes me feel a little bit Southeast Asian.On the contrary in the mainland, people don't ride motorcycles with loud noise and heavy gasoline smell, but bicycles and electric motorcycles, quiet and green.And I did not see the motorcycle army, even in the 5-line level of the county is difficult to see the gathering of dense motorcycle army scene.
This term of “ethnic unity” being said about Taiwan in regards to annexing them is very disturbing. It’s a fascist talking point and it has no place in today’s world.
even usa has many ethnic groups but they still in one country,china is multi ethnic country and taiwan is one of ethnic groups of china and also china and taiwan is one
@@dk.magic.mobile108 I don’t think you understand. Those people in China were saying that the country should be united by one single ethnic group. Right now in Xinjiang the ethnic uighurs are being put in concentration camps and having their culture erased. Taiwan doesn’t need to join China just because they’re the same ethnicity.
@@michaeljames2349 我在学校有很多来自新疆的朋友，其中也有很多维吾尔族的同学，当我和他们谈起这个话题时，他们说从来没听说过集中营这回事，最让我印象深刻的是一个维吾尔族女生跟我说，外网的那些不实言论让他们感到侮辱。在您没真正去过新疆前，如果您真正尊重维吾尔族的话，请停止这些不实言论。不喜欢中国是您的自由，但请不要为了摸黑中国而传播虚假消息。
@@nebula9935 bruh there's literal pictures and hard proof out there
@@TheKewlPerson When the real Uighurs express their opinions, you just say it is false and brainwashed, when the western media publish so-called information, you will firmly believe anything negative about China
2:12 The older lady kinda look like Tsai-ing Wen
True😂
there are nice chinese people and nice taiwanese people. however i would never indentify myself as a chinese ever. i am proud to be taiwanese. we are not the same and that is thanks to the ccp in world war 2 :))
真理只在大炮射程之内，我们过去了你们就全体唱义勇军进行曲了。 台湾必须统一，不然美国会一直打台湾牌恶心中国。 你们可以继续祈求美国保护台湾，就像乌克兰一样。 不过你们的军事实力可远远比不上乌克兰 。。🤣🤣🤣
@@郑宇-k2b dream on lol. after ww2 the ccp claimed they would take taiwan in 3 days and 70 years later here we are. dont look down on the military as well; taiwan and ukraine are ranked 21 and 22 as of this year, and look how small they are compared to your 'mighty' country lol. and they do have the us, japan and aus backing them up. if xijingping really thought he could take taiwan he would have done it by now so why wouldn't he? hahahahaha yeah thats what i thought. this ccp brainwashing is kinda funny
@@jagaimo9859 Do you think Taiwanese look forward to war? ? ? LOL! ! Tsai Ing-wen never recognized Taiwan as an independent country. . He is not like a fool like Zelensky.Zelensky publicly gave NATO access to Ukraine. Only a fool like him would dare to do that. Whether the war is won or lost, Ukraine is completely over. .🤣
为什么你就不明白，我们要收复的，是台湾这块中国领土而不是你？统一之后，你可以去任何你想去的地方，最好不要留在统一以后的台湾，以免大家都尴尬。
If it comes to war we’ve got your back 🇺🇸
Taiwan is of course a country, but it does not belong to China. It is a country that constantly defends its sovereignty. TSMC was born in such a democratic country and has continued to flourish, becoming the first Asian company with a market value exceeding US$1 trillion in the U.S. stock market. enterprise!
台灣當然是一個國家，但不屬於中國，他是一個不斷捍衛主權的國家，台積電就是在這樣的一個民主的國家誕生，並且不斷蓬勃發展，成為市值在美國股市第一個突破1兆美元的亞洲企業！
你觉得中国会在乎你们台湾的想法吗？ 时间一到 直接开打。不可能和平统一的。。
"We speak the same laguage, share the same culture"
Uighurs CAN'T relate. 🙄
Ethnic Uyghurs are part of mainland China's 56 ethnic groups.
C'mon, these people can also be found in other mainland cities like Beijing, Chengdu, Shenzhen, Wuhan, Shanghai, Xi'an and others.
@@thisiskevin1000 ok
Neither North and South Korea can relate… That stupid argument will always make me laugh
pakistan and india cannot relate.
Cold fact:none of my Uyghur friends answered no when asking them"Do you think you are chinese"
Life better with China look at Hong Kong
Hong kong is democracy
@@abhinabpaul6989 *was
Ya but technically they can make their own rules till 2047.
這些人不知道經過上海風城後怎麼看？
Taiwanese people can be ethnically and linguistically Chinese but not by nationality. Austrians are ethnic Germans and their language is German, yet they are a separate country.
Besides, why is it so important that Taiwanese people consider themselves “Chinese”? Is it seen as a blow to the pride/ego of those on the mainland?
但是奥地利和德国是独立的国家，而联合国并不承认台湾是国家地位，这两者还是有区别的。
Taiwan should be its own country.
@@FSH_0740why can’t they be the same.
@@Zak.rey320 台灣地名不是國名
@@FSH_0740 Why should we care about the United Nations. They are completly incomptent.
Taipei and Shanghai are both situated in two different countries, one is governed by 中華民國 and the other by 中華人民共和國
That was disgusting what that man said. That the Taiwanese don't recognize themselves as Chinese gives them the right to attack?
the island belongs to China, if some of Taiwan people don't recognize themselves as Chinese, they should leave the Chinese land. just like, I live in your room, I hate you and don't think the room belongs to you, then 100% you will hit me.
@@VictorZhouexcept Taiwan is on a different island. If you take your example into consideration the room is like the entire land of china. Taiwan is outside of that. Very close. And one could say that the Philippines is close to china aswell. I don’t recognise myself as Chinese, I am Taiwanese. There’s a difference.
@@VictorZhoubut even so? You’re saying it’s ok that because I don’t recognise myself as Chinese you get to announce war? Are you sick in the head? Imagine if Taiwan said that back? People would be absolutely shocked
@@Zak.rey320 It doesn’t matter what Taiwanese think, and no one really cares, just like the Iraqis, Afghans, and Palestinians now.
I really admired the Chinese public. They are knowledgeable and well balanced in their opinions. They defined democracy the way it should be, not just the interpretation of the US and the west. And they expressed their views well and confidently. All these show how much China has progressed from the days when the Chinese were bullied and looked down upon by the more advanced countries then.
onslaught of everybody, lol
Force their own opinions on other people thats very democratic...
democracy is that took away land of china?taiwan is land of china since qing dynasty so opinions of taiwanese are no meaning
Yea, I’m sure these interviewees are forced by a gun being pointed at their backs How can you be such a smart ass😂
戴白色帽子那個女生是不是對民主有什麼誤會？
有误会的是你吧😂把美式共和制当作是民主，你去追根溯源欧洲历史，民主的概念比你想的要广得多
@@源王-v4m等你有投票權再來討論民主
@@angelhuang4126 我有投票权啊
@@angelhuang4126你们好魔怔哦，还投票权。投票权本质上就是统治台湾的精英官僚和资本阶级的一场口水战和资本战。愚弄乡民，乡民却洋洋得意。😢。你投给谁，谁的政策好，谁坏。都是旗下新闻媒体潜移默化告诉你的。大部分人都没有自己的认知。我看了几年的台媒。不管中天，三立，还是台湾TH-cam的博主。全是带有政治立场的，说句实话，还没有央视中立😂😂
@@angelhuang4126你们自己被民主这个词搞魔怔了，感觉像邪教一样😂😂。真的 民主没有多读书重要。多读书，全民提高认知，多看点和台湾不一样的，你才能知道台湾的民主就是被洗脑的民粹。
Reunification is inevitable
Taiwan absolutely will continue to have independence. There is not way Taiwan will become like Xinjiang Uyghurs being murdered 3 MILLION of them, and their body organs sold to evil china organ trade. There is no way Taiwan will be a part of that!! We will fight and defeat evil china!!
Nice joke
Remember street interviews require authorization from the CCP in china so don't expect many dissenting opinions.
That's not true.
not true
Source: trust me bro
I’m a chinese but the opinions in mainland is also deviant. Because A lot of Mainlanders don’t know that the fact Taiwan is Republic of China. And a large number of Mainland Chinese believe Republic of China has died. Therefore, their opinions are still deviant. And this is also a problem incentivizing the rise of Separatist movement in Taiwan because they cannot use the name The Republic of China中华民国. And therefore don’t have the concept Of China anymore instead of having the concept Taiwan more
中国有多民主，她自己知道吗？是10票反对还是0票反对?
台湾人素质高
China ccp covid copyright 😢
Maybe one day the good people of Taiwan will be able to share with their mainland Chinese friends how to have a representative government. China will need to have at least one more political party and the complete freedom for all citizens to criticize their government first.
they already have freedom to criticize the government, and the national people's congress is fully elected and represents the people, just like the legislative/executive branch is supposed to do in the US. The founding fathers tried to make the US not have political parties, but the USSR, Cuba, & China succeeded by exercising democracy though a single party that is essentially just the gov't.
The only way that would happen is if there was a successful revolt against the authoritarian government
This is some old cold war cliches and you still hold it dearly.
@@1917MSC It's not a cliche. China doesn't have a democracy. Taiwan does. Pretty simple.
@@lazersly Your world view is too simple: black and white. You just simply take whatever western media throw at you without contemplation.
I am disgusted by some of their political stances, but I also recognize that they empathize with the Taiwanese people. I will never see eye-to-eye with the people interviewed on so many issues, but I also recognize that they as people are worthy of respect, and are not responsible for the crimes against humanity committed by the CCP.
I am disgusted by your biased view of Chinese government.
@@bang4buck326 they are committing genocide, though I know you'll overlook this out of convenience
What genocide? You mean the one in israel-palestine conflict which is funded by USA? @@nunyabusiness22
The older couple are wise.
After the COVID, it’s unreasonable and hilarious-sounding to say China is having a rapid development in economy.
I love how thick the propaganda is from the answers in this video?
1 - the girl who says Taiwan is historically China’s before it was ceded to Japan
- Taiwan was ruled by own its indigenous for thousands of years and was first ruled by the Dutch and Spainish before China. Historically, it can’t even be disputed that it’s China’s territory.
2 - The guy who said Taiwan isn’t part of the interests of the US but then says the US is operating everything behind the scenes.
- Although the US isn’t operating things behind the scenes, that guy’s two ideas contradict each other.
3. the guy who is saying China should prepare for aggression if Taiwanese don’t claim their “Chinese”
- this is the ideology of a dangerous person. That guy is not a good person at heart.
你不了解中国历史就不要胡说八道。台湾97%的人都是从福建，浙江过去的中国人。哪里来的什么原住民，没有二次世界大战中国人民3500万人的牺牲，台湾还是日本殖民地呢。台湾独立可以拿3500万人的性命来换。
1.google it and And compare the time，Before you say dumb words
3.Will you try to Reunify America.If the Confederate States of America Still rule texas today，And texas people Have stopped thinking them as americans?
I saw a huge smell of western propaganda in your Comment.
台湾不是美国核心利益中的核心这句话没有什么毛病呀？说句实话我真不认为两岸发生战争美国真的会以牺牲自己子民的鲜血和生命来捍卫别人的土地而不是自己的主权。这是每个国家的利益。那又为什么说美国在幕后操纵呢？因为利用台湾来作为牵制中国大陆这又符合美国对华的长远政策。
首先你要知道中国大陆和中国人民是永远都不可能放弃台湾的，我作为一个大陆人我非常清楚我们这边大陆人对台湾统一的决心这个是非常明确和坚定的，而看看美国人，有多少美国老百姓知道台湾？又有多少美国老百姓会为了遥远的岛屿而牺牲自己？美国政府其实也知道这一点，他们不可能在台湾问题上花自己一辈子的汗血他还有其他地缘要考虑，他只会利用台湾来耗尽中国这是他们一直想做的。就像他们利用乌克兰一样，如果是美国和北约真心想誓死捍卫乌克兰和台湾，那北约军队早就打过去了，为什么到今天都是乌克兰孤军奋战呢？别人不可能无缘无故为你而流出自己的鲜血。
永远记住一句话：国与国之间“没有永远的朋友只有永远的利益”！这个是世世代代都绝不可能改变的现实道理和历史答案！
Still relevant today in 2024. Mainland Chinese have more of a clue than Taiwanese.Taiwanese youths are not prepared for the future with the Chinese mainland. I wish for peaceful reunification of Taiwan with the Chinese mainland. Chinese people on both side of the strait are family.
I don’t. I hope that Taiwan can be its own country. We should be able to have our own country.
EVERYONE LOVES TAIWAN.....AMEN....
中文怎麼矛盾那麼多自己也不聽自己在講什麼話他說如果要回歸就跟香港一樣兩個制度也OK明明看著香港兩個制度他們所謂的OK把歷史跟英國簽的約都毁滅了迫害的國際的規則那不就是打臉自己的嗎真的是人民被洗腦的那麼的徹底可憐那可憐然後嘲笑南美國家他們不懂中國的人均GDP是比墨西哥還少嗎墨西哥是屬於第三世界國家耶你憑什麼在那邊想要一個在堤世界的國家去背在第三世界的國家統一呢笑死人了
理性和這些人講人民真正該在意的: 幸福國家排名、人類發展指數、人均gdp可支配所得、醫療保障、教育資源、養兒扶老、環境永續、食品安全、司法正義、弱勢社褔……他們的回答理性不了，理性就輸了，只好搬出北朝鮮那套，我們國家最偉大！我們最幸福！
別的國家的人民在網路公審自己的政府哪裡做的不夠好時，他們義憤的指摘發展指標比他們強的那些國家，而這個透明的世界並沒有他的角色，他所處的世界也不容公民在網路公審政府，唱國歌也能算污辱，上訪陳情一堆跪著，為什麼要跪？！於是他希望原本不需要跪著的人有天也能像他們跪
漲紅著臉數落著發達國家的短板，澎脹地嘲笑貧窮國家的虛弱，那姿態難看，其實和哪國人無關，但很多這樣的人來自同一個國家時，說明整個國家的素質充斥著恨人有、笑人無、見不得別人好，又怨自己好不了。敢再說我學黨一樣維稳你，但活在牆內的被穩的只是自己。
終於過的好些的一小部份人，試圖辯駁活在牆內也能茁壯，但不願意正視茁壯不了的極大多數，嫌惡弱勢拉低平均讓面子上變難看，而弱勢仇富是非不清、恨意甚濃，總體無力讓各項指標回歸民生議題，所有正常人民該正視的社會各項發展指數全被單項指標取代。錢哪去了？心知肚明。自欺欺人地說服自己，國家正在下一盤大棋。糟心的是，這單項指標能夠分紅在他的人生路上的福利甚微，他也依然唱著愛黨贊歌。
唐朝最輝煌時曾經佔世界gdp的50多%, 明代和清朝最輝煌時期也曾經佔世界gdp的20多%，華人從來就不弱。偉光正的改革開放也不曾突破往昔，他們沒爆肝加班嗎？沒低薪韮菜嗎？為何要感謝黨讓他有飯吃？却不計較黨抹煞了20年文明？居功在外資和人民，黨只是終於開了讓一部份人先富起來的門，跪黨不如跪祖上沒被黨蹂躪。
他希冀黨號召的民族復興能夠帶領他往發達國家邁進，但看不透國家gdp世界第2，人民gdp却世界第68，背後意謂著他的黨再有錢也不會藏富於民的真相。
台灣人更傾羡奥地利、丹麥、紐西蘭的社經存續邏輯，而許多中國人的邏輯似乎執著相信鬥爭能帶來幸福。
黨愛不愛國，不在口號，在財政預算的分配上。每年財政分配他把關不了，也許無權調阅，久了還真的沒人在意，只6~8%花在民生的國情是有多坎坷？國爹黨媽把他關在家幾個月不給錢，這是愛。若是他自願同意的，愛還是獨享的好。
@@ying729 说得挺好，就是建议你有机会多走走，不能只活在编纂的数字和信息茧房里。几十年的发展从台干到台劳，如今都混到柬埔寨搞诈骗了。我实在是搞不明白遍地机车和铁皮屋的地方，一次寒流都能送走几十个上岁数的流浪汉，一个核食莱猪毒疫苗用到满用到死的地方，哪来的勇气去谈论幸福和发展。
3:17 I don't know enough about the Taiwan v. China history, but using this guy's logic Canada would belong to USA, or vice versa. Puerto Rico, Mexico, and most of South America would belong to Spain, and on.
usa never been part of canada , canada and uda both were british conolys
@@sakurakou2009 He said "We speak the same language, share the same culture". But if you want to go by who colonized who, then by your logic just change US and Canada to Britain, I guess and throw in Brazil to Portugal, etc.
@@mechanic6682 from what I know majority of taiwanese are han chinese and china during qing dynasty did have authority over taiwan island , until japanese invaded it and the after ww2 japan surrendered all land they conolized including taiwan , and repablic of china the nationalists did claim taiwan as part of china , not just taiwan they claimed mangolia and whole of manchuria and part central asia too , and chai kai shik was pro reunion with mainland But under his goverment , for long time after mao took over mainland , EU only acknowledged nationalist goverment as only legitimate goverment of whole of china and mao government as illegal , their also was many attempts to retake the mainland , it only recently that taiwan goverment changed and went for whole dependent and want to claim they their own country which is not recognized by any country in world , no one acknowledge taiwan as sovereign country not even america
@@sakurakou2009 So we should go back to before 1895? Like I said I don't know. I was just addressing the logic stated by a particular guy at a specific time on a video.
@@mechanic6682 you dont need to go back to anything , china does have legitimate claim over island of taiwan as part of it historical land , and all countries around world acknowlage that , so what right does america have to interfere in internal affairs of sovereign country ? , imagine if china armed south america seperatists and kept sending weapons and high official of china visited south America to deepen relation with south American seperatists ? , america didnt even hesitant to invade cuba over soveit helping them , and america invaded alot of countries , they even invaded Vietnam that right next door to china , and they did try to invade china during korean war they wanted to nuke china , china have all right reasons to be aware of america and west yet in my opinion china been so patient , like whole situation with hongkong if it was me I would have demanded hongkong to be returned to china right after ww2 , but china remained claim and allowed britian to reoccupy hongkong after japanese surrendered , No westren country would ever tolerate what china historically tolerated from westren countries bully , and I saw chinese comments over taiwan situation most chinese dont want war they just dont want their country to be divided and threatened all time .
Are they actually speaking their mind, speaking their truth, or speaking their fear? Because no one wants to be, you know, sent to prison. Or worse.
These people have almost no understanding of their own problems, the shortcomings of their system in causing the current problems which prevent any possibility of reunification. Those who really understand almost all believe the prospects of reunification as defined by Beijing is close to zero. No chance at all.
Oh yea? China coming from dirt poor to the second biggest economy but hey I’d love to hear your analysis on the shortcoming.
Maybe you have solutions for China and can bring the Chinese people to world domination? Please entertain us with your so called solution that you can do better or you know better than the current leaders of the Chinese regime!
But remember, China is the second biggest economy, any of your solution doesn’t exceeds that are just horse shit
You need much better English subtitles.
Lol how brainwashed
It's people giving their opinions, if you don't like it's fine. I could say that people from your country are brainwashed but that would just be mean❤, so I won't. Say no to war
一群被洗腦的忠國人，我對兩國間的未來很悲觀。
🙂🙂呱呱呱
看看中国各个年龄段的人群素质👍👍👍看看中国的年轻人👍👍👍真的很棒
The fact that these mainlanders can't watch this video without a VPN tells me everything I need to know about their 'freedom'
The Soviet Union once lost its ideological guidance because of the cultural invasion of western countries. We have experience, and how much impact will the scale of 1.4 billion people have on the platform?
@@桃落六苍 ask India
@@桃落六苍 The Soviet Union also massacred millions and enslaved millions more prior to its fall. To be fair, it seems China is taking notes from the Gulags from what they're doing in Xinjiang.
@@桃落六苍this 'cultural invasion' is called freedom of thought, Russians were not coerced to have western thought, they were allowed freedom of thought and could see both sides and used their own rationality to be convinced
怎不做個街訪台灣人的影片?
如何看待中國把侵略說成武統?
為什麼中國說台灣是自古以來不可分割，但是對海嵾威東北其餘等地的分割卻是可以接受的?
台灣人怎麼看待中國政府在國際上對台灣的各種打壓?
因爲我們的護照上還是中華民國啊，兩岸的内戰都沒結束打個三小的俄羅斯？攘外必先安内的道理常公都懂你不懂？
@@thanq7934 人家中共說中華民國已經在1949就滅亡了？成立中華人民共和國內戰至此結速，何來內戰之說？你在打他們嘴巴啊？中華民國已經被推翻滅亡囉🤣你的護照是假的吧？快去對岸領新的
@@ken85626 你不會到現在連台灣都還沒出過吧？我在澳洲又是從來都是去悉尼的中國大使館尋求幫助，幹他娘的國民黨在那邊的黨支部根本不吊我的ok？我在澳洲感覺中國真的是看在我們的護照上還有中華民國，還有ROC的這個C才幫助我們的，在他們看來我們只是暫時生活在敵占區的同胞而已，就這麽簡單。我是真心建議你多走出去看一看，不要成天在台灣就只看台灣的媒體，幹他娘的那些綠營的媒體比中共的媒體還誇張
@@ken85626中共說滅亡就滅亡了？那你現在在台灣交稅養出來的國軍是什麽呢？如果内戰已經結束了蔡英文還浪費大家的這個錢幹嘛呢？如果你也覺得養那群廢柴很無理取鬧的話，你也可以像我一樣搬到雪梨來呀，如果你不會講英文不要緊，我在這邊做機車客制的，可以帶你一起發財呀，有空多出來走走看看，我之前在台灣也像你這麽想，出來了以後多看看就知道真相到底是怎麽一回事了
@@ken85626 你稍微了解一下历史好吗？
Yeah, and they all say the same things =))
They are under a lot of pressure from the ccp in this interview
no, i don't think so. Just because they didn't spit out those words that you like to hear ....the anger and dissatisfaction, then you don't accept it, pity you.....how many types of democracy do you think, exist in this world? Please don't quote US and UK democracy...... which i think its more of Capitacracy. Mind you im not from China but Malaysia which is also a Democracy country. And we have many more political parties as choices compared to US.
Everything is CCP watching you! Relaxe. its more like the West media making you so paranoid. These people are not famous or important people in China. They are not like big TickTok Influencer.
@@MrAbkleeparliamentary democracies arent more democratic than parliamentary systems just because theres more parties, they have ups and downs, for example in parliamentary systems you cant really vote certain parties out of office because theres almost always centrist coalitions
说那么多倒是统一啊，老子等二十年了，吹什么
等你买好自己的墓地
跑不掉的。统一是必然的
@@yangqingluo8375下个世纪？
@@thanq7934 又是翻墙的粉红？现在还活着吗？
@@alexfranklin873 你吃莱猪核食都活得好好的，我吃人类食品又怎么会不福寿绵长呢？这一点主要还是要感谢湾湾的贡献，每天看你们的“新闻”真是太开心了，笑一笑十年寿嘛🤣🤣🤣
“Not as modern” bruh
The woman With the Coat is Such a Cry baby, the US "so-called" super power? Pfft, Remember the UN and ASEAN exists
you🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡