The Gospel of Mary - A Lost Gnostic Text?
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- We celebrate Easter by looking at one of the most interesting non-canonical texts from the early development of Christianity.
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Sources/Suggested Reading:
Asgeirsson, Jon (2005). "Thomasine Traditions in Antiquity The Social and Cultural World of the Gospel of Thomas". Brill.
Brakke, David (2012). "Gnostics: Myth, Ritual, and Diversity in Early Christianity". Harvard University Press.
Brock, Ann Graham (2003). Mary Magdalene, The First Apostle: The Struggle for Authority". Harvard Divinity School.
de Boer, Esther A. (2005). "The Gospel of Mary: Listening to the Beloved Disciple". Continuum.
King, Karen L. (2003). "What is Gnosticism?". Harvard University Press.
King, Karen L. (2003). "The Gospel of Mary of Magdala: Jesus and the first woman apostle". Polebridge Press.
Tuckett, Christopher (2019). "The Gospel of Mary". Oxford University Press.
Van den Broek, Roelof (2013). "Gnostic Religion in Antiquity". Cambridge University Press.
Meyer, Marvin (ed.) (2009). "The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume ". HarperOne.
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The original word meant TO MISS THE MARK’ it had nothing to do with sin/ guilt/ wrongdoing/ shame.
The Judeo /Christian influence added that regrettably.
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Any religion with rituals are religion and religion is not from God!
God has only one way to Him and that is Jesus but the true one not thé made up one by religions!
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What a pity it's such a fragmentary text - great work, friend! Blessed Ramadan, happy and kosher Pesach and happy Easter to all celebrating!
It's not from God, that's why, or it would be complete like the 5,000 manuscripts of the bible in all kinds of languages, God word is pure, true, and remains forever.
@@EternityBlessings you haven't watched the rest of this channels content have you lol.
@@EternityBlessings you know, there were 350 milion copies of Spiderman comics sold around the world. That's how I know it's a true Gospel from our Lords and Saviours: Stan Lee, Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby!
@@EternityBlessings Your causal, causation argument is weak.
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The more we find out about Mary-Magdalena, the more fascinating she becomes.
Imagine having lived right by Jesus's side for most of his life, and the cannonical Bible essentially erases your existence. I'd be pissed. I hope we find out as much as we can about her and restore her rightful place in Church history.
I agree her story is very intriguing and feel she serves as a feminine example women should strive for.
In 1969, the Pope renounced her prostitute misnomer but unfortunately it's not common knowledge and many churches still weave her mistaken identity in their sermons, which IMHO makes them sadly negligent. I feel she has transcended the human emotion of outrage, although we can certainly feel that on her behalf and should spread awareness when possible. I am pleased that Pope Francis made a public declaration about her importance as a apostle of Christ and elevated her memorial day to a feast day. I'm hopeful that one day all will know her true nature.
HISTORICALLY ,Jesus had no problem with women - - his ' right hand ' was a woman , the apostle of apostles , Mary Magdalene - - Peter lacked the smarts to understand the messages in the parables - - several times Mary was asked to explain .Historically women were second class citizens in the culture of Jasus' time .The church does not like to talk about HISTORIC TRUTH - - only talk about faith & beliefs which , in fact were created by the zealous bishops to push THEIR agenda .WHen Constantine accepted Christianity , called the bishop to have a synode at which time the Nicene creed was created by a small percentage of all the bishops at that time who had a strong desire to push their agenda- -among them patriarchy & misogyny which around 425 was reinforced by Augustine of Hippo , the so called father of the church and the demonizer of women- -the cause of women's discrimination to priesthood . The old boys do not like to talk about the historic TRUTHS & too WIMPY to allow women priests .
Yeah no,woman shouldn’t talk in church.some point are good in her texts but some are wrong
@@tiborbeck8016 exactly
@@blacksea_charm why shouldn't women talk?
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Early Christianity is the most interesting topic to me on this channel, you're doing a great job, thank you
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Thank you for this! Just a few days ago I laid flowers at the altar of Maria Magdalena in the basilica of Assisi. I feel a strange familiarity to her story and I imagine this gospel might be closer to the "original" teachings than the orthodox church would like us to believe. Thank you for shedding some light on this darkened corner of history!
JESUS HAD A SON VIA MARY MAG John 19:25-27
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother[Mary], and his mother's sister[in-law], Mary the wife of Cleophas[mother Mary's brother], and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by[Mary Magdalene], whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy [grand]son! [in Mary Mag's womb/pregnant.]
27 Then saith he to the disciple[Mary Mag], Behold thy mother[in-law/Jesus' mother Mary]! And from that hour that disciple[Mary Mag] took her[Jesus' mother] unto his[Jesus'] own home [The home of Jesus and his now pregnant wife Mary Magdalene] in a midwifing arrangement.
lmao
Sadly she was a fictional character, much like all of those who were said to follow the also mythical character of Jesus.
@@TheGuiltsOfUs😂
@@TheGuiltsOfUs Don't want to be rude but archeological history strongly says otherwise. Jesus is a real historical figure wither you believe him to be divine or not, the matter is He existed and that much is undeniable. To deny His existence is to be incredibly ignorant.
This shows what Jesus was really trying to convey and what, in my view, was mis-construed and what has caused so much strife (as it has become externalised as though he is "out there" somewhere and we need to find him/salvation, hence all the conflict and control involved in such a pursuit). When you truly go silent within in total trust, you are in connection with him/God and your true nature. This can still be a process of discovery, but that is the essence of it. You cannot silence the truth and the truth is silence. God bless
Then he was a failure and his very name should be publicly derided whenever it appears in conversation.
@@TheGuiltsOfUs With the greatest of respect, he never failed. It was the disciples who misunderstood his teachings to a certain extent - APART from Mary Magdalene - which in turn were then formed into a 'religion' that somewhat missed the point (although there is still much wisdom to be gained there IMO). He is very much real as a spiritual entity. One can deride him as much as one wants, but it cannot destroy the truth of his existence, which is actually YOUR true nature (pure consciousness). He taught that you and he are ONE. Only each of us can find this out for ourselves. Peace
The travels of the soul through the gatekeepers is also reminiscent of The Bardo in the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Always fun to find synchronicity in the various traditions. Great vid as always.
I was into Tibetan Buddhism and it's mysticism like Rdzogchen and even their roots from Bon. All great stuff,informative, eye opening for sure but I was lost and searching.As fate would have it I've found what I was looking for.I was introduced to Christianity as early as 1969 when I was born by my Grandma.As time went on I wandered away from it because I thought that it was archaec and not relevant to this "modern age" but as time went on I began to see how fake this world is. I began to notice another presence around me that would make good things happen and would answer my thoughts, always but never on my time.I almost died 16 times in my life.When I listen to His prompts I always am successful in building my "Knowledge Repetoir".Any other book toward "truth" never stacks up to what the Bible instructs.I know because I'm a former Pagan-Gnostic- New Ager! If you accept The Holy Spirit into your life everything changes.Your myopic paradigm shifts a few noticable degrees and continues relative to your ability to grasp things on this crazy, tumultuous and uncertain road of life.I'm now a solid-as- rock Believer because of what all I've seen and experienced.Not bragging,just sayin'😒
I was thinking the same.
Both are full of shit. That is their only similarity.
@@Georgia-Vicyes when you have spiritual encounters with demonic spirit and you know that they Tremble in the name of Jesus then you that everything about Jesus is real
@@winterheart1984 but of course!😉
A Godly woman is strong & humble to endure being shunned & misunderstood by humanity. We know Glory goes to God & that is all that matters. It is Loyalty, Faith, & selflessness for the Greatest Good. 🙇♀️
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Totally agree with you bro may Allah guide all of us to the right path ameen 🙏😁
Islam SUCKs
And informative too
No doubt
Mans based for all religions not just one, I’ve learned so much about Islam through him and I’m an atheist lol
Even though it's non canonical I cannot help but feel drawn to this gospel and its contents. I am once again in awe at the spiritual ideas of early Christianity and the common ground between Christian Mysticism and other spiritual practices. In the end I guess there are no straight answers in this world.
Well of course. People have always loved fairy tales which the book of Mary is
@@Nomad58you say fairy tale. It was true to the writer. You cant dismiss any text. All have clues.
@@kristinakilby6798 sure you can dismiss false teachings and writings. You absolutely can
@@Nomad58 don't be daft
@@jope76 don’t treat comic books like inspired scriptures. Don’t be dumb
Wow, this is why the canon is so important, just a single exclusion of a book like this changes everything. And it also shows and tells a story how the mysteries of His teachings could have been erased completely from the very beginning of the moment following his death. Apart from Mary who is instantly rejected.
If Jesus was teaching Mary things that he didn't share with the others then I'm certain that was for a reason because these things were not to be shared as part of the gospels for teaching. I'm not worried we don't know these teachings because it is contradictory to everything else he was openly sharing.
@@dawn5227depending on the Bible your reading
Like everything else
Catholics were the top dogs for a while and we all know bout some of the things they got up to whose to say they didn’t stomp out some early competition
Hi Filip! Happy to see you are covering this. Hope one day, when time's right, you'll be able to do the Gospel of the Beloved Companion.
I'd love to cover all these texts!
wow! have not yet heard of this one.
I could write a book of gratitude here but I will keep it brief.. I am amazed but not surprised that these 'lost' teachings are not at the top of the list of research etc.. Much thanks to Elaine Pagels for opening the doors to the spirit behind the mythology called Christianity and to you as well for sharing this priceless information.. What this Gospel as well as Thomas parallel are the teachings of Sri Nisargadatta and others in South India that sprouted around the same time or perhaps earlier.. Thank you thank you thank you.. Not many have grasped the importance of what these pearls of wisdom offer to so many who hunger for such guidance.. Peace
JESUS HAD A SON VIA MARY MAG John 19:25-27
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother[Mary], and his mother's sister[in-law], Mary the wife of Cleophas[mother Mary's brother], and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by[Mary Magdalene], whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy [grand]son! [in Mary Mag's womb/pregnant.]
27 Then saith he to the disciple[Mary Mag], Behold thy mother[in-law/Jesus' mother Mary]! And from that hour that disciple[Mary Mag] took her[Jesus' mother] unto his[Jesus'] own home [The home of Jesus and his now pregnant wife Mary Magdalene] in a midwifing arrangement.
The world is tired of new age historical revisionism.
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The "lost" texts were all written far after the canonical gospels. They are all forgeries. Mary was long dead in the 2nd century.
I like Mary! She is the truly enlightened one!
Marry is a holy hand maid, she was not enlightened, only Jesus was. You're on your way to hell replacing God with a mortal woman.
This text was written far after Mary had died. It's a forgery from the Gnostics.
You are a Christian?
Plus she had a big booty
There was a section in there which reminded me of Luke 17 Vs 21 ' The kingdom of heaven is within you ' . ✌️✝️🕉️
Superb video. Thank you! The teachings of Jesus & Marie have a deep Buddhist understanding. Much misunderstood - as light and love often are, sadly so.
Thank you for your beautiful work❤️
Jesus is the Truth, the Way and the Life. Buddhism has almost nothing in common with Christianity. The Buddha never spoke at all about God. Nirvana is interpreted as "what's left when you blow out a candle."
Gnostic Christianity concept and those gospels removed from the bible are all very similar to Buddhist and Hindu Isopanisads.Not a surprise they were removed and concealed by church.Everyone here is not sure whether Jesus was GOD,or he was son of God.Next,here everyone is not sure even the name of God and what was God’s personality.What is this uncertainty religion all about?At least non Abrahamic religion have clearer understanding on Supreme Godhead
@@worldrocker5914 you are right with your argument but you should not blame the religion but blame the people who are in charge, just like how most of the teachings of the disciples of Jesus were not added to the Bible the people who decide to do that are the problem, that’s why God says he will start from his own household and those who walk in his name
The Gospel of Philip also stated that Mary was the favorite disciple of Jesus and he used to display great affection towards her.
Yup and she was the first one to see he was risen
it does, and also that she could 'see' what others could not. the same is found in another text, the dialog of the saviour where it says 'she spoke as a woman who understood everything'. this is the text one can find her addressing a saying of her own to Jesus "we take our stand in this [your teaching] and to the world we are transparent". Similar ideas occur in the pistis sophia, and 1 obscure church father 'the lord always used to sit and listen to her wisdom' (from memory). together with the gospels, if you add this up it points to a significant tradition that's only now being recovered. i think her idea of the gospel may be found in the text, The Odes of Solomon
@@peacefultruth9803 Thank you for that additional information.
A very wise and loving rendition to our beloved Saint Mary Magdalene’s gospel… you are continuing her and our Lord’s work undoubtedly 🌹
Thank you so much for this.
I feel the need to share the moment my mother passed away in Ireland in 2012.
Briefly I had been with her for the last 3 days holding her hand, when she stopped breathing I reached down to give her a hug and was met with this beautiful force rising from her body, it went through me and out my back heading upwards. I looked down and immediately realized that this was the vessel that carried my Mother's soul, her suffering was over.
Your message here resonated with me for that reason.
My lecturer later told me that was my Mother's greatest gift to me, the confirmation that I always knew, what happens at death.
Mary is the only disciple that has ever captivated my attention, when I pray it is always to her.
This interpretation from you has helped me immensely on my journey.
Thank you and may God bless you 🙏.
You don’t pray to any of the disciples, you pray to God through the Saviour!
🛐 The body a vessel shall pass - "Spirit" the true "essence" -
Shall continue on it's journey to enlightenment 🛐
Beautiful. She was such a strong and humble woman. We many never know who she was. We cannot forget her with what we do know. France---as they say--owes her a great deal for bringing Christ to the shores of that beautiful country. Mysterious in some ways---and sensible in other ways. Mary Magdalene pray for us!
Seems like Paul, Thomas and Mary are the only ones who actually had mystical experiences and understood the message.
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And John the beloved
Yes because they are direct disciple of Jesus and are in pure in heart and doesn't controlled by church orthodoxy father.
Only paul is a historical figure out of those three.
@@TheGuiltsOfUs yes and only about half of the letters are believed to be actually written by him.
I never considered how interesting early Christianity was before what is now the Orthodox and Catholic churches decided what was true.
POPE SUPRESSED THAT JESUS AND MARY WERE TRANS👨👨👦❤❤❤👍👍👍WAKE UP
I have faith that a full text will be found one day
I hope that my physical body is still here to read it ❤️
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I'm always so happy when I new video of yours drops. The last few have been stunningly made , polished and professional. The subject matters are just fantastic, I never knew much about Suffism before. Out of the prominent religious scholars on TH-cam, and as amazing as channels like " Religion for Breakfast " &
" ESOTERICA" are in their own specialist ways, " Let's Talk Religion " is really smashing it out the park. Wonderful to see so much interest in these subjects, most people probably never had others to discuss these topics with before and its brilliant to see. 👍🏻 Have a nice Ramadan my friend
You are very kind, thank you! And may you have a beautiful Ramadan as well.
That "look over here look over there" bit sounds like something in the Gospel of Philip: "Love does not say 'this is mine!' Or 'that's mine!' But 'what is mine is yours"
First time listener. Great content! Thank you so much for delivering truth..I love that you and Esoterica support each other! That's what we were created for! ❤️ I have been a Christian my entire life. Only in recent years have I been open to the idea that the bible didn't give us all the info. Unprograming can be difficult. Especially since I am a woman, who has been called to heal. What I know for certain is, is Christ is love. May we all spread/show love. Love and Light ❤️💋
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Hi Janel, The Gospel of Mary was written far after the historical events. Mary, mother of Jesus, was long dead in the second century, thus everyone knows this text is a forgery and has no relevance to the historical Jesus. Stick with truth!
Mr. Holm, you are the best: fair, open 📖 minded and unbiased.
Thank you, Filip, for covering the important text of Mary.
May all have many blessings today with one's own celebrations during these days of fasting and prayers of all faiths.
With the deepest appreciation and respect for your wisdom and for all your knowledge, you effortlessly share. .🙏❤
"If you can empty your mind of all thoughts,
your heart will know the tranquility of peace.
Watch the endless rush of worldly beings,
yet contemplate their return to the Source.
Each being in the universe
returns to the common Source.
To return to the Source is to find peace.
To find peace is to fulfil one’s destiny.
To fulfil one’s destiny is to be constant.
To know the constant is to be enlightened.
Not knowing this leads to eternal sorrow.
Being at one with the Tao,
you naturally become impartial.
Impartiality is the highest nobility.
You are no longer concerned about losing your life
because the Tao is constant
and you are one with the Tao"
- Lao Tzu
As usual, clear and well put together. thank you. The non canonical writings are all very interesting.
Indeed!
Another blessed impartial explanation of spirituality from respectable Mr. Flip H. In the holy month of Ramazan on a blessed day GOOD FRIDAY. may Allaha bless you Mr. flip H. With lots of love from a sufi student from India.❤
Always appreciate your kind and engaged comments!
Question🙋🏾♀: Why was it that people were mad about Jesus marrying a prostitute? He literally 'made an honest woman of her'. If prostitution makes you the scourge of the earth🙄, it stands to reason that a Jesus would step in and put a stop to that behaviour. He's Jesus, he did 'what Jesus would do'. What's their problem?
In tradition Jesus is normally seen as celibate. I believe it would be seen kist as controversial if he married a pious woman
Where in the gospel said that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute..?No where ...they let it be understood because they wanted to hide the relationship with Mary Magdalene who was his wife.
We all exist in our own phaneron this means we do not die we drop out of time you only need look at the testimony of those who have experience Near Death Experiences. I have been a Gnostic for the past 30 years so its good to see so many videos on here waking up the masses. Gnosticism is also prevalent in Islam you just need to read Rumi.
There’s a lot of hidden knowledge in these gospels, thanks for the beautiful video!
The only things that are hidden is because of fear and self imposed ignorance.God hides nothing from his children because He wants us to prosper and succeed.If you think that things are hidden from you, you are a pathetic victim and will never make it out of this!
@@Georgia-Vic Hidden in the sense that it's not so common knowledge, not in the literal sense.
@@jassimarsingh6505 I see what you are alluding to but for something to be "hidden" it cannotes secrecy and intentionally hiding something from someone's view in order to deceive them or to outright trick them. A better word, definition or description would be something like: not very well known, obscure, uncommon knowledge, unordinary, vague or anything else but "hidden!" These aren't semantics but a more clear way of relaying something to someone else without being ambiguous. Other people don't always know our biased and peculiar ways of talking. Jesus hides nothing from us. If by some chance we fail to see the message, it's only because we are unable to understand it. If we don't get the gist of a teaching it's only because we either have not had enough life experience under our belts OR we just are outright rebellious and childishly refuse to receive it, in which it's no ones fault but ours, not the person speaking,writing or conveying the message to us! If we say "well I didn't know about it, therefore I'm exempt from the consequences!" we then are irresponsible and a victim and that is unacceptable to God. We hold ourselves back from progress! God gives us free will and discernment, if we don't use them then that's our problem. God forces nothing on us and He hides nothing from us because we are His children. When the KJV Bible speaks of secrecy and things being hidden, that's the certain interpretation of the translator. Old English is a dead language. We don't call rabbits "Coneys".We don't call seals "Badgers". We don't say:" Thee" or "thou" and we don't speak like the people did in Great Britain 300 some odd years ago. King James hired William Shakespeare to copy the Bible. William then subcontracted 70 other men to do the research to make his job easier. Those men worked with candles and oil lamps in low light and the sources and resources were questionable at best.They were in a hurry to get their pay and the longer they took to translate the longer they went without money.We update our dictionary every 5 years!😏😳also when things are penned on paper, the translators' (and the Prophets) intentions were not like what we today think they are. We think that things are only one way; the way that we think that they should be without exception and that's closed minded, selfish and myopic because we take things out of context just to suit our own egos or to win an argument! There are different ways of looking at something. Sometimes if you'll turn it around you will see a different aspect of it and lastly things in Ancient Hebrew, Aramaic and ancient Greek cannot be translated into our modern English which is an amalgamation of various other borrowed languages! 🫤 And some words cannot be translated because they don't have those words and vice versa. Some cultures don't have words for "good bye" or "future" or "hidden"...so what does a translator do? They make up words, suppose,conject or find a suitable word to replace or fill in. Does that mean that it's wrong? By no means, it's just the only way that we can make something broken whole!
dude you sound so angry. He just meant the church hides this shit.@@Georgia-Vic
@@entidy458 not angry just reactive. Look at it this way though: Why should a thing be hidden and from whom?
This channel continues to be the most soothing channel ever.
Thank you for sharing this illuminating knowledge that is so important to enhancing our understanding of Jesus, and Mary. Mary Magdalene seems to be His Wife.
Love your channel! This is my favorite channel on you tube. Thank you!
As a religious person I love your unbiased videos.
It's truly amazing to read such pleasant comments in all your videos. Your content is truly uniting. God bless from this curious mystical Christian.
One of my FAVORITE courses ever was "The Gnostic Gospels," with one of my favorite professors, David Brakke. It was a small class, with perhaps a dozen of us, most of whom knew each other from other classes in the Religious Studies department. We had some of the COOLEST discussions and debates about the material. 25 years later, and I can still remember the course number (R425/565, combined graduate/undergrad).
Bentley Layton had recently published his seminal work, covering everything from Valentinus, Ireneus, Gospel of Thomas, etc. I don't remember whether Mary was in the book, but we DID cover it.
As an atheist who still finds religion to be both a source and chronicle of the evolution of the mind of mankind, discovering the Thomas and Mary gospels was a transformative moment, opening my mind to studying Christianity, both from an historical perspective, as well as the theological contemplation of its proferred wisdom. I truly wonder how the Church, and civilization itself, would be different if Thomas and Mary had been included among the canonical texts. It almost makes me sad.
Anyway, thank you so much for this great video
"After this mic-drop Jesus tells his disciple's..." best sentence I've heard in a while.
I enjoyed this very much. I’ve always been curious about all of this. I’ve read the book on The Gospel of Mary
As an agnostic who went to catholic schools in until college, I find it interesting that they were more willing to teach us about other non-christian religions than the history of early Christianity. While I don't feel particularly drawn to belief of any sort (even calling myself agnostic is being charitable. I simply believe that if there is some omnipotent/omnipresent being, then it must be impossible to scientifically prove it disprove) I find it absolutely fascinating to see all the ways in which Christian teachings were interpreted and communicated in the early years before the development of the church as a monolithic entity.
Catholic HS graduate here. Church History and World religions were both required to graduate. It may depend on the diocese or the school itself.
Hi, I share the same background as you and appreciate your honest comment here. I'd like to share this: About 10 years after finishing college, I started reading a lot of non-religious philosophy on my own for like 6-7 years (Greek, German, British, etc). It was kind of incredible but these texts actually drew me back towards Christian philosophy and teaching, like Thomas Aquinas. In the past year I started going to church again and feel pretty good about it. I bring my young children as well. I guess one major takeaway after the life experiences I've had is that the church is a more wholesome and stable institution for my children than the tumultuous secular ones we have available. It took me years to arrive here and lots of consideration --and I don't "know" I'm right. Part leap of faith I suppose. Keep searching and reading!
Most enlightening. Your voice and diction are superb. Thank you very much.
It's fascinating (but not surprising) to me that texts written by women were excluded.
Gee, it's almost because Mary didn't write it since she was dead by the time it was written!
its not quarantee it was even written by women, more likely not. The likelier is that it was exclued due to highlighting Mary Magdalen importance in Jesu's circle (more than canon)
Brilliant video - as usual. I love the way you present the information in a non biased manner and allow your audience to come their own conclusions. It's such a rare and precious thing to find these days and allows for true learning and understanding.
I cannot wait for you to do a video on Swedenborg. From my limited understanding he seems like a cross between Christian/Perennial mysticism with a heavy pinch of Spiritualism/Shamanism thrown in for good measure.
Non biased? Did he mention Mary was long dead in the 2nd century when this forgery was written?
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"and allow your audience to come their own conclusions. It's such a rare and precious thing."
12:41.. Had to go back to that line because i didnt appreciate it enough the first time it caught me off guard😂👏🏼🎤
Thank You Mary Magdalene for your wisdom.
Absolutely. I think the first 100 years of the Common Era is a little known era about which not much is known but a time when many questions were asked and the Gnostics were active. The Mormons call it the great aposthasy, but I think the truth is the opposite of what went down up to 100 years CE.
I'm sometimes flabbergasted by how deep institutionalized misogyny goes in the church, it makes me a little relieved to hear that this was historically more popular as a text, so general population people weren't necessarily orthodox.. but I'm also grieved at how an entire approach to salvation was stamped down and so thoroughly burnt out. so many people lost, literally and figuratively.
- JESUS HAD A SON VIA MARY MAG John 19:25-27
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother[Mary], and his mother's sister[in-law], Mary the wife of Cleophas[mother Mary's brother], and Mary Magdalene.
26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by[Mary Magdalene], whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy [grand]son! [in Mary Mag's womb/pregnant.]
27 Then saith he to the disciple[Mary Mag], Behold thy mother[in-law/Jesus' mother Mary]! And from that hour that disciple[Mary Mag] took her[Jesus' mother] unto his[Jesus'] own home [The home of Jesus and his now pregnant wife Mary Magdalene] in a midwifing arrangement.
@@termination9353I mean, doesn't that illegitimise Jesus's position in the trinity? If Jesus himself conceives a human child, what is that child, a demigod? It doesn't work.
@@swausgebouwen143 There is no such word as Trinity in the Bible. The Gospel does not say those three entities are one in the same entity, and Jesus outright denied he was God numerous times. Even so what is the problem with Jesus having a son to continue his royal bloodline. From that bloodline comes the Second Coming. - I’m here to show that your churches are lying to you and correcting the doctrine that they have adulterated.
@@termination9353Jesus never denied to be God. And there is not 3 entities in 1 entity. There is 1 entity and 3 persons. That’s the difference
@@JSt3pz Jesus DID deny he was God and the scripture never says the three entities, Father, Son, Holy Ghost, are one in the same entity. The concept and term Trinity is not in Jesus doctrine AT ALL.
Tack för ännu en intressant video, Filip. Glad Påsk!
I wonder if this is the earliest example of the Christian theory that the individual “soul” goes to heaven when a human being dies - as opposed to St Paul’s idea that the dead will all rise, transformed like Jesus, only when He returns in glory.
In my Catholic schooling, I was taught that BOTH were in store for us: When we die, our souls go to God for immediate judgment and an eternity in heaven or hell - or an unknown period of suffering and soul-cleansing in purgatory. Then when Christ returns, all the dead rise and there’s a “final judgment.”
That used to confuse me: Why TWO judgements? Wouldn’t the souls in purgatory all be released into heaven? And weren’t the souls in heaven and hell already judged for all eternity?
You’ve helped me understand that the competing theories go back to the beginnings of the church, which later went on, I surmise, to combine the two.
Even today, more recent Christian groups like Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses apparently propose more complex theories involving multiple heavens and the total extermination of the souls of the wicked.
“Quot homines, tot sententiae” the Romans said - There are as many opinions as there are human beings!
That early theory arose due to a syncretism of the hellenistic and hebraic cultures. I doubt rabbi yeshua, if he existed, would understand it.
Mormons are not Christians and neither are Jahova witnesses. Mormons for example believe in many God's. They believe that God use to be a man who died and became our God. They believe Jesus and Satan are brothers and the litteral children of God and one of his many wives in heaven. They believe God is sexual. They believe when you die if you follow all the mormon ways you become a god of your own planet too. Those cultists believe nothing that actual Christians do. Their God Jesus and Holy spirt are not the same as our GOD (God Jesus and the holy spirt as 1.) None of their creation story is the same as ours. The fight between heaven and the followers of Satan is different. They do not believe Satan is a fallen angel. Mormon and Christian theology are two separate things two completely different stories.
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This gospel was preached,until about 200 yrs ago,when a group decided to pull all books they chose to because they had controversial notes to them.
I forget which Catholic leader it was but he pushed for Paul's work to be the main text and ordered the rest destroyed. He also persecuted and put many to death. Interestingly enough Paul was one of the Roman followers of Judaism and he himself persecuted Jesus's deciphels himself. Also many of his texts are believed to be forged. Coverup? Can you do a video on this?
It is essential to acknowledge that throughout history, women have faced various forms of discrimination and suppression across different cultures and religions. However, it's important to note that interpretations of religious texts can vary, and many religious communities have made efforts to promote gender equality and challenge oppressive practices.
Here are some examples of verses from different religious texts that have been used to both support and challenge the suppression of women. Please remember that interpretations and cultural contexts play a significant role in understanding these verses, and they may be subject to different interpretations:
Christianity:
Suppressive Interpretation:
1 Timothy 2:11-12 (New Testament): "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."
Supportive Interpretation:
Galatians 3:28 (New Testament): "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
Islam:
Suppressive Interpretation:
Quran 4:34: "Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient."
Supportive Interpretation:
Quran 33:35: "Indeed, the Muslim men and Muslim women, the believing men and believing women, the obedient men and obedient women, the truthful men and truthful women, the patient men and patient women, the humble men and humble women, the charitable men and charitable women, the fasting men and fasting women, the men who guard their private parts and the women who do so, and the men who remember Allah often and the women who do so - for them Allah has prepared forgiveness and a great reward."
Judaism:
Suppressive Interpretation:
Genesis 3:16 (Hebrew Bible): "To the woman, he said, 'I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor, you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.'"
Supportive Interpretation:
Proverbs 31:26 (Hebrew Bible): "She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue."
Hinduism:
Suppressive Interpretation:
Manusmriti 9.3: "In childhood, a female must be subject to her father; in youth, to her husband; when her lord is dead, to her sons; a woman must never be independent."
Supportive Interpretation:
Rig Veda 10.85.7: "The wife and husband, being the equal halves of one substance, are equal in every respect; therefore, both should join and take equal parts in all work, religious and secular."
Buddhism:
Suppressive Interpretation:
Mahaparinibbana Sutta: In this account of Buddha's final days, some monks suggested that women could not attain the same level of enlightenment as men. Buddha responded but did not outright reject the notion.
Supportive Interpretation:
There are various teachings and stories in Buddhist texts that depict women attaining enlightenment and holding positions of respect within the monastic community.
Yours is the best and most clear description / interpretation I have encountered ever. So cool! Subscribing as I click "like, like"!
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Seriously, Peter was so competitive. How did he attain such status among The Twelve with that ruthless attitude? Bet he was a Scorpio.
8:35 Such a painful image. Lost information always hurts.
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It’s interesting Peter is shown to be a hothead, because he is very much that way in the gospels. Jesus rebukes him for insisting on running from the chief priests, he likely part of the general “disciples” in Matthew who get angry over the woman who puts oil on him, but he’s also the one who seems the most courageous at other times. He leaves the boat, he follows to see Jesus’ trial, gets angry (again) when denying knowing Jesus, and may also be they guy who cut off the servant’s ear when Judas showed up in the garden.
Peter is a strange figure. Seemingly the most enthusiastic to follow, but definitely did not seem to understand a large portion of what Jesus tried to say. Why would Jesus want someone like that as his “rock”? Or was being the “rock” not necessarily a fully good thing as has been assumed. Perhaps Jesus understood that sometimes making people understand could be better done with a truncheon than an arrow? Or that despite all his failings, Jesus saw in Peter true potential?
Reminds me to Dimitry in the brothers Karamazov. He's a drunk and a hothead, but the one that feels the most guilt and capacity to love, and is willing give his life for what he believes. I guess emotions and penitence are just as important in christianity as logic and retoric is.
@@julianv1828 great comments, both you and the OP.
"Jesus rebukes him for insisting on running from the chief priests" - Jesus did not rebuke him for this.
W. The child of humanity lives within you! With this Matthew 7:7 comes to mind here!
keep working on and do what u do best. keep covering all things that are hidden. thngs u share is gold. salam ramadhan and eid mubarak
Love this channel so much. Thank you for this amazing content!
A video essay on the day of resurrection (yawm al-qiyamah) would be class
Wow. Im speechless and makes me rethink everything i have use to believe. Not all of it but this gives a new way for seeking God. I should control my temper more and be silente also more. Forgive me God my ignorance attitude what pops out sometimes. I pray we all could be peace together one with each other and get Christ in our hearts Aamen 🙏✝️
Happy Easter and May you be blessed
As a confirmed agnostic atheist, I have come to value these videos very highly for the rich material they bring to the study of history and human nature. Thank you!
Wtf is an agnostic atheist
@@Hipointranger it means someone who doesn't believe in gods (atheist) but cannot be certain or have confirmed knowledge about it (agnostic)
@@theokra you can’t be atheist while being agnostic it’s impossible and not how it works. Agnostic is a person who can’t say for sure if there is a God, while an atheist means you don’t believe in God.
Agnostic = undecided
Atheist = decided disbelief
An agnostic atheist would be someone who knows there is no God while not knowing if there is a God.
@@NoWay-kb3tk You mean... Being uncertain, because there's no way to entirely disprove it? I don't see how that's in any way "impossible." Speaking personally, one might be very _inclined_ to lack belief in a god, but it isn't entirely off the table. This goes even if one is, say, sure in their unbelief of the Abrahamic god. He isn't the only option, people forget.
_Decided_ disbelief would be Gnostic Atheism. In this context, Gnostic and Agnostic are prefixes to define ones general attitude. We can argue whether this distinction is, ultimately, especially meaningful, but they're hardly alien terms,
Andrew basically called her a “heretic” in a Catholic sense of the term saying: “this differs in thought”
A really excellent summary just the right length ❤
Thank you... Great video... Everyone can eventually achieve equanimity through spiritual practice leading to self realization.
What many do not realize is that the commonly emphasized trope that the esoteric gospels mentioning ‘Mary’ refer exclusively to Mary Magdalene is quite incorrect. The Magdalene is mentioned in her turn, but in these same gospels (including this one), Mary the mother of Jesus is equally identified as one of the mystical interpreters of Jesus’s teachings, and in cases where the ‘Mary’ being mentioned is not specifically identified, it is just as likely that the text refers to the mother of Jesus as it may refer to the Magdalene. In the very ancient and early Church movement, it was the mother of Jesus (and male kinfolk/brothers) who were remembered as the powerful leaders, as a family unit, of the Jerusalem messianic community, coming into conflict with the newcomer Paul, especially. The Magdalene was not remembered as a leader of the movement, but as a key disciple. However, it has been the fad to understand the esoteric “Mary” as being the Magdalene because it titillates those who seek to propose that Jesus had sexual relations with a female disciple who then became his special confidant. New studies and evidence overturn this fad about the esoteric texts and identify the mother of Jesus as the “Mary” who exerted leadership (which is indicated or implied in the canonical Gospel texts) or that the unidentified “Mary” in these texts can be a conglomerate figure of the important Marys in the very early movement. The Magdalene IS specified in places, but the mother of Jesus is specified just as often in these unique texts, if not more. It’s quite fascinating.
Another great one man! Ive never even heard of this gospel, super interesting stuff
I suggest that "The Miracles of Fatima" are one of the attempts to make Mary a Saint. She is never proffered as a Disciple of Jesus, only his mother. She is just a lowly women, and nothing else. No one should pray to her or worship her, but the modern Roman Catholic Church does not say otherwise.
The only miracle worth talking about is one in which all of the children currently crying out for help as they die in various horrific ways are magically saved before I can click my fingers. The repackaged goddess worship of the catholics would be utterly alien to the supposed historical rabbi yeshua and to his jewish mother.
Gospel of Mary is one of my favs- great job 👍
This was incredibly interesting, thank you!
I am a Muslim and I love your video on jesus christ (as) and mother Mary (as)
Females tend to be Givers and Nurturers of Life. I can easily see Mary having a deeper Spiritual connection to Jesus. Thank you for this enlightening video.
The attack on Mary by Peter and most of the other opostles , hints at the patriarchal control we see in the writing of not only most Christian text , but the power structure of the church as well.
The Abrahamic religions to this day keep a tight leash on woman , not just in the secular world , but as religious teachers as well. We see that the Magdalena writings didn't even make the final cut of the Cannon. And I agree with you that it had to be written by a helenistic Christian because a Jewish wouldn't have written it . ❤
The Church ,the Jews and the Romans made sure we wont know what Jesus taught Mary. The fallen Ones are still in charge in the World. But we know they are available to Teach us direct.
Absolutely beautiful teachings... wow.
Probably the most similar Christian text to Taoism.
It's not Christian. They're gnostic and forgeries as Mary and Thomas were already dead in the 2nd century.
Alot of these "Non canonical" texts are quite profound.
Amidst all the high quality academically enlightening comments I am sorry to be the one who has to discuss the Human Instrumentality Project from Evangelion. I knew that series was highly influenced by the dead sea scrolls and a myriad of other more mystical texts, but it caught me off guard just how much the eternal nature of the soul discussion aligns with what that franchise does with its own "instrumentality project" (a major climactic plot device).
Hey Philip ! I recently saw your video on Kashmir Shaivism & I must commend your efforts in explaining subtle & complex theories of Hinduism. I suggest you these topics which might interest you & are rather less discussed upon when it comes to speaking about Hinduism - Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Yoga, Samkhya & Purva-Mimamsa. Nyaya scholar Udayanacharya & Purva-Mimamsa scholar Kumarila Bhatta had played crucial roles in refuting Madhayamaka doctrine through debates & compositions. Samkhya is basically a Hindu version of sorts of the Taoist theory of Ying-Yang & is important to understand Shaktism in general. Like Tantra, Yoga has been heavily misinterpreted by the Western society but the Yoga espoused in Patanjali's Yoga-sutras are much more profound than mere physical exercises. Also it would be interesting to watch your video on the other 5 of the 6 heretical teachers mentioned in the Pali canon.
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Much love! Thank you Filip. The seven powers are likely intended to be the opposing forces of the seven virtues in Merkabah mysticism, being the esoteric milieu out of which the Jewish founders of Christianity sprang. Working out the correspondences could be rather straightforward. The Ten Sephirot are right there in the first chapter of the first book in the Hebrew Scriptures. I recommend setting the two letters of chaos with the first two verses and then follow the associations between the Hebrew letters and the Sephirot down the list as per the standard interpretation of the Sefer Yetzirah. Tbc, the standard interpretation takes the first verse to be the first Sephira but then there would be verses of the Divine Speech that do not correspond to a Sephira. Take care!
There is nothing in this comment that is not already published and widely circulated, except for my own recommendation. Investigate for yourself.
That would depend on whether the sephirot predates the gnostic movement or not. It's hard to say.
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Hey Filip, I really like your content! Thanks for making these topics so accesable. I was wondering if you have read "the sacred mushroom and the cross" and how you would evaluate its proposed theory with the knowledge that you have.
Such an interesting text. I’m fascinated by gnostic teachings.
Thank you for this fascinating research! Every video on your channel is interesting.
Another great video Filip! Thank you so much. On another note, I was thinking about Ibn Sina's Floating Man experiment and began to wonder if it could have been a refutation of the Buddhist belief of sunyata. I would really like to hear your take on how Buddhism and Islam may have interacted in the Middle Ages.
Buddhism and Islam is something which almost never explored by contemporary Muslim scholars, parts of it can be blamed from Muslim Perennialists' overt focus to Rene Guenon's frameworks and similar late orientalist (or more of contra-orientalist) eras of Scholars, which Buddhism as the most latent Sramana Faith is discarded and even never historically dissected of both "Early", "Mahayana", "Vajrayana" and new age eras of Buddhism's history asides from non-Muslim Western Scholars whose brave enough to jump into said Depth of Emptiness in Buddhism
All of these despite Al Biruni's records of Buddhism can be very prevalent, with some Muslims at that time even believes about The Buddha and similar Mahayana Buddhist figures in the newly conquered Muslim era of Khorasan (basically Transoxiana to Western China) to be Prophets that taught Religious systems to "banish Satan', which directly references Buddha triumphs over Mara(s) figure in the Buddhist history of Gautama, this on top of the other possible theories of Prophet Dhul Kifl in The Qur'an might also refer to Arabised suffix term reference of Gautama Buddha birthplace origin in Kapilavastu alongside the Fig Tree in Surah At-Tin being a possible reference of Gautama achieving Nirvana under The Bodhi Tree
Another more personal findings given to how Prophet Ezekiel in The Tanakh also describes visions of Wheels at the Kavod (Glory) of God which happens to be incidental with Buddhism's concept of Turning Wheel of Dharma which represents Noble Eightfold Path, the number 8 also plays pivotal role in Orthodox Christianity, Sethian Gnostic and reference of Qur'an Rub El Hizb and Eight Doors to Paradise in Islam
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I would have liked to hear more of Mary 5, and more on Mary 4, for that speaks of matter and how it mirrors physics. Because in Mary 5, it sure seems to explain entanglement.
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