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  • On 9pm LIVE, HW News Managing Editor Sujit Nair speaks to historian Ram Puniyani on the rise of babas or self-styled godmen in India. Recently, a satsang organised by 'Bhole Baba' in Uttar Pradesh led to a stampede, killing over 120 people.
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  • @alvitofernandesgraciano9820
    @alvitofernandesgraciano9820 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Politicians want to use religion in politics ,so the encouragement of these so called Baba's by BJP.

  • @ozyreynolds7403
    @ozyreynolds7403 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I heard of one "Baba" who during the COVID pandemic told people to go out on the streets, onto balconies and terraces and bang on plates and thalis, and light lamps and flash their phone torches to get rid of the pandemic.
    And crores of Indians believed him and carried out his instructions. I was surprised to see even educated albeit ignorant people following the instructions of this Baba who himself is not much educated, and that is the situation in India, where blind belief in Babas overrides education and reason.

    • @anupamkashyap1791
      @anupamkashyap1791 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Ye toh PM modi ji ne propagate kiya tha ki thali bajao during covid

    • @higdcvh
      @higdcvh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Superb

    • @tanjalivander-xx7ho
      @tanjalivander-xx7ho 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @user-jr6qg8pd3f
    @user-jr6qg8pd3f 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Sir Sujit Nair I hav really respect for you plus Dr Ram Puniyani Sir I respect him so much love 4m Nagaland kohima Jai Hind n I m a Proud Indian Christian..... Thank you n tc

    • @sudhakaran8281
      @sudhakaran8281 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I had seen so many naked babas in India in those days, ie, during 1960s.

    • @rumplestilskin223
      @rumplestilskin223 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do nagas still eat humans?

    • @paulhigginssuting4618
      @paulhigginssuting4618 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@rumplestilskin223yes very much hindu nagas do. Wl I pass IAS...

  • @user-yn4io9yh8g
    @user-yn4io9yh8g 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    US has passed a resolution to probe Fr Stan's death but in India they have turned a blind eye. Till when will this go on.

  • @sudipchakraborty8333
    @sudipchakraborty8333 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Babas (mostly fraudsters) were always there across India. Only difference is that earlier these Babas mostly targeted the rich people. Now these Babas target the middle class & poor people (trying to take benefit of their insecurities) creating a huge base of followers and our Politicians are hell bent to leverage the influence of these Babas like never before.

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Liked your comment but now the poor are targeted by all Religious bigots. Sickening when they get rich and the poor get poorer

  • @GilbertMenezes-pd7sv
    @GilbertMenezes-pd7sv 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Today it is the world of fools and wise men are laughed at, unfortunate

  • @thepeacefulwarrior2879
    @thepeacefulwarrior2879 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Spirituality is about turning inwards. And for that you don't need a baba, priest, guru, mullah, etc.

  • @naveedmulla4557
    @naveedmulla4557 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good report. This phenomenon due to people not reading basic religious scriptures with their authentic meaning. It's forbidden to go such bababs or Peers or Dargah in Islam. But still people do it across religion due to ignorance.

  • @skrishna653
    @skrishna653 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent sir explanation sir

  • @varghesekurian7037
    @varghesekurian7037 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Some 50 years back the then American Ambassador to India John Kenneth Galbraith called India a functioning anarchy. The situation still continues with its many Babas and their quick prescriptions for all wordly problems. There is nothing called scientifc temper even among scientists. With the Hindutva and the BJP calling shots on anything and everything the situation can only worsen. Babas and godmen are proving to be our answer to inequality, casteism, communalism, the elements that are taking us back to 200 or 300 years back.

  • @arvindrajput5328
    @arvindrajput5328 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanx sir for analysing everything impartially because main stream media have lost the credibility you are the hope for new generation ❤❤❤

  • @be.curious101
    @be.curious101 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hi Sujit Sir,
    Please bring Sham Manav Sir for a thorough discussion on this andhashraddha topic.
    Thank you.

  • @ravindranmokkilmaruthur23
    @ravindranmokkilmaruthur23 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There is only one religion though there are hundreds of versions of it - G B Shaw

  • @jayeshrao739
    @jayeshrao739 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a good discussion

  • @johnnytoscano1145
    @johnnytoscano1145 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always had a feeling that Modi did not have a father or that he did not know who his father was. The truth came to light when he said that he was a non biological being.

  • @neildcosta5932
    @neildcosta5932 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great going Sujith! Wish you every success in all your endeavours!
    It is a matter of great concern that more and more people (some even educated), fall prey to these scamsters in the guise of 'Godmen'. If these 'Godmen' could really bring relief, all our hospitals would have closed down as they would have telepathically cured the ill, there would have been no poverty as these men would have alleviated everyone from it and the world would have become a peaceful place as they would have ended wars.
    When one feels inclined to follow a 'baba', just think of this - which baba/astrologer/godman predicted Covid-19 and after its onset, which of them could stop it?
    The Answer : NONE!
    Such is the power of Godmen, the world over!

  • @babupaily1656
    @babupaily1656 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good one

  • @anslemslove5215
    @anslemslove5215 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Baba blacksheep.

  • @ekamsat429
    @ekamsat429 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The social insecurity is surprisingly high among the youth nowadays. Youth are supposed to be skeptical of supernatural stuff as a normal function of their age. The real change is now in the fast spread and herd acceptance of unthinking expressions - be they religious or secular - due to the power of social media. For instance, until the 1980s, wearing of threads on forearms was never so prevalent among the young folks, especially in the cities.

  • @user-yn4io9yh8g
    @user-yn4io9yh8g 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Rise and rise of Babas during 10 years of BJP rule. Like Bhole baba, no FIR filed yet. Media says he is on the run but infact he is enjoying himself at his home surrounded by security guards. Why no search warrant issued. Why his house is not checked. Baba should be totally exposed.

  • @jaiboyjacob3647
    @jaiboyjacob3647 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sujit Request to make video on Worli BMW hit and run

  • @johnwisdom651
    @johnwisdom651 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please also do an unbiased bipartisan discussion on Manipur Ethnic issues with experts

  • @jayeshrao739
    @jayeshrao739 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    passing of students till 8th class even if they fail .... a in-depth discussion on NEP is required with impact for future

  • @kanumallachandhrashekar8362
    @kanumallachandhrashekar8362 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much sujit ji, for presenting wonderful show, I regularly follow Ram puniya ji.
    He is outstanding Historian.

  • @avinashkarnick385
    @avinashkarnick385 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The obsession with spiritual gurus has been endemic in India throughout its entire history. It has little to do with politics. People want quick or instant solutions for their mundane needs and aspirations. Besides this is not restricted to India alone but is a global phenomenon.

  • @srk1200
    @srk1200 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In developed countries they have professional THERAPISTS whom people visit when they have issues. We don't have too many of them, and they are expensive....so there is a huge 'market' for that in India

  • @indirakuriyan9366
    @indirakuriyan9366 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Education is a priority to which few governments in the world have given funds.
    Research and Development, funding for Ph.ds and all kinds rational knowledge should be made an essential part of nation building .

  • @krishnaraocolluru5333
    @krishnaraocolluru5333 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chandraswamy or Dhirendra Brahmachari revelled more in playing the role of ‘Rajgurus’. Most recently we have Swaroopanandendra in AP whom both Jagan Reddy and KCR approached before 2019 elections. He did perform some yagnas. Luckily for him, both of them won hands down. And lo, one can imagine the influence he wielded in both the Telugu states with the officialdom. Now that both the powerful disciples have bitten dust the Swamy is facing the music for many alleged real estate violations and acquisitions.

  • @mbasappa
    @mbasappa 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Faith and trust demand people to believe without evidence. Religion should be based on Vendant teachings which promotes the science of life. One who understands the teachings of Vendant will see through what these so called religious heads are preaching.

  • @krishnaraocolluru5333
    @krishnaraocolluru5333 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is not an exaggeration that Jawaharlal Nehru personified in himself the rational thinking and scientific temper. He was at helm for a long time. Those times, naturally, Nation was listening to him. I still remember that Nehru dismissed Ashtagraha Kutami or conjunction of eight planets as a rare astronomical event, which indeed it was, and refused to believe and partake in all the religious ceremonies commissioned by many believers. Finally he was proved right. Times have come a full circle now.

  • @jamespereira1202
    @jamespereira1202 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Financial insecurity ie poverty in one' of the main reasons for the people going to the so-called babas. These people cannot afford expensive treatment in hosptals so they are the easy targets.
    ensi

  • @bravikumar8950
    @bravikumar8950 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It appears superstitions are being propagated more in recent years.

  • @AmitaBaindur
    @AmitaBaindur 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Godmen are universally and found everywhere in the world.

    • @kw9494
      @kw9494 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Two wrongs don’t make it right. LOL.

  • @Shubho26
    @Shubho26 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Baba's are nothing but liaisonous agents...

  • @SamvadSoul
    @SamvadSoul 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sir in all religion there is faith ( you call it blind against any scientific reason) so Babas flourush. They give some value to disciples else they wouldnt follow. Some follow even after courts conviction. In Hindus it is open to debate without any fear of backlash

  • @Rajb90
    @Rajb90 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No such types of babas in Nordic countries

  • @agarvind3966
    @agarvind3966 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All Baba or so called GODMAN should be brought under section 69 of the BNS law. What they are doing is promising things which never happens its TOTAL DECEIT.

  • @farzanamariaqutubuddin9611
    @farzanamariaqutubuddin9611 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    There is nothing HOLY about majority of God men today of any religion.. it’s all about money and politics nowadays .

  • @kw9494
    @kw9494 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nobody needs any guru. Be self reliant. Only people with slave mentality accept Gurus. Greed and fear makes fools accept Gurus.

    • @sabihasaud8156
      @sabihasaud8156 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      💯✅

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Excellent comment am Indian born/educated but choose to live in the West. Brought up as a Catholic but challenged my grandmother in the seventies. Stepped away now without religious PR humbug instead of tackling Poverty/inequality. Least corrupt ppl in Norway Sweden Finland = no religion

  • @sabihasaud8156
    @sabihasaud8156 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Babas irrespective of any religion pray on ppls insecurities . They know how to play mind games.

  • @moga1950
    @moga1950 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As long as superstitious people are there,these God men will survive.

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes but it is always the women who provide rich pickings for these crooks as Religions are dominated by men. All gods are men but a woman appears so that he can "relieve" himself.

  • @premdeepvelu3321
    @premdeepvelu3321 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Superstition is rising in India and a real Menace to treat with real common sense education and not illiteracy with degrees cooked and conferred. KNOWLEDGE WITH SPIRITUAL THEISM

  • @sridharchatti8047
    @sridharchatti8047 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about maulanas christian pastors etc

  • @tapasghosh2094
    @tapasghosh2094 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ramkrishna mission.?

  • @jayantabsarma
    @jayantabsarma 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello, are you less than a Baba? Albeit in its modern version. Journalistic edition.

  • @madhavaraogideon3281
    @madhavaraogideon3281 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Babas must be put in jail for robbing the people of money and worship ( shich belong only to Gid and not to any man ).

  • @higdcvh
    @higdcvh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Babas rise on one side. On the other, as long as people are religiously superstition and their numbers increase, such Babas too rise in numbers. Education and knowledge can transform people. In other words common sense and common science should prevail in each individual over superstition.

  • @balasubramaniv928
    @balasubramaniv928 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about Modi baba who has crores of andh Bakhts who refused to use their brains

  • @foggnewsMedia
    @foggnewsMedia 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    JAI iNDIA 🌱oM SiVA🔥

  • @Shankar-zs5ce
    @Shankar-zs5ce 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sujit Nai ...😂

  • @tusharpotdar5762
    @tusharpotdar5762 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sir more of the north India is going through this "Baba Manic Syndrome " - तो अच्छा होता अगर आप ये कार्यक्रम हिंदी में करते, क्यों के जो अंधभक्ति से ग्रस्त लोगों हैं, उनमें से ज्यादातर लोग मात्र सरल हिंदी समझते हैं, तब फिर इस अंग्रेजी में कि चर्चा से उनमें क्या हि फरक पडेगा !! और दुसरी बात जो पढेलिखे हुए लोग हैं, जिन्हें अंग्रेजी समझ आती हैं, वे ज्यादातर इन बाबाओं के चक्कर में नहीं पडते और जो कुछ लोग बाबाओं के चक्कर में पडते भी हैं वे बिमारी में इलाज करने किसी बाबा के यहाँ नहीं बल्कि अस्पताल में हि जाते हैं, तो बाबा अंधभक्ति अंधश्रद्धा जैसे विषयों कि चर्चा हिंदी में करना बेहतर होगा।
    @11:31 ... Why do we have faith in such people
    Answer - नशिडी व्यक्ति को, नशा करने वाले व्यक्ति को पता होता हैं कि वो क्या है, उसकि औकात क्या है, उसकी लिमिट क्या हैं, लेकिन नशा करने के बाद दारु सिगरेट पीने के बाद वह जो वो वास्तव में हैं उससे अलग ज्यादा कुछ होने का दावा दिखावा करके समाज या उसके आसपास के लोगों में खुद का स्थान उच्चतम स्थापित करने कि कोशिश करता हैं,
    बस यही इन सत्संगों में होता हैं, हररोज अपने आंगन को झाड़ू लगाकर सफा कर पडोसी के आंगन में कचरा डालने वाली महिला भी सत्संग में ये कहते हुए देखेगी कि "अच्छे कर्मों का फल अच्छा हि मिलेगा" 😁
    अपने रोजमजा के जीवन में अतार्किक, या गलत वर्तन करते लोगों को सदाचारी सद् आचरण करने वाले व्यक्ति होने का दिखावा करने का अवसर सत्संग प्रदान करता है। आडंबर करने का रंगमंच सत्संग हैं

  • @pullamraju4855
    @pullamraju4855 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Babas are promoted by congress even!? Indira Gandhi and now Rahuls favorite is one os shankara charyas . Pasters& Mullas are fair!?

    • @balasubramaniv928
      @balasubramaniv928 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I never heard shankaracharyas saying cow urine will cure cancers.. they propagate peace and Shankaracharya are important pillars of Hinduism.. positive Hinduism rather than lates narration..daily one hears one or the other bjp member saying cow dung, urine medicine for fatal disease.. because they know they are ruling the andh Bakhts community… best part is when these bjp members or their family members suffer from cancer they go for chemo or radiation therapy rather than using cow dung or urine