@@arielli9489 Exactly. In my previous game I flooded her with fleets made up of either Nanite Interdictor carriers or Nanite Swarmers with torpedoes. The missiles didn't render and it was laggy as hell but it looked like she was being eaten by a bunch of hungry Piranhas.
I wish Cetana was something other than galactic annihilation. Like forced synthetic or virtual ascension/enslavement. Would have fit the DLC better imo. Like she is “saving” us but really not, like a broken benevolent fanaticism.
She technically is within the narrative. It just doesn't show in gameplay because the government ceases to exist hence nothing for the player to pilot.
@@MaaZeus Kind of but not really. It is still possible but its no longer even close to being the best. So sure you CAN do it but there are better ways usually.
That's so cool that Cetana is coded to wipe out every threat to the galaxy that isn't her...after her revenge on the fallen empires of course. Priorities ARE priorities after all lol
@@Darlf_Sevil Her overall event could definitely be better but I appreciate that they tried to go in a different direction. The other 3 crisis events are just "Fight back" and two of them are "Fight the enemy back to their home base and destroy it." Cetana at least gives you a problem you can't solve purely by just spamming ships with a counter build. And you can even choose to side with her. Doing that with the other events just means letting them go unchecked until they steamroll you and everyone else. So she's not perfect I think overall she's pretty cool and has at the very least a very interesting take on "This is how the galaxy ends."
@TehKang but others change depend on where they spawn and other ai in galaxsy, she is alywas the same and at this point she is most boring of them all and should het reworked as first due toher evry singiel fight look the same
@TehKang no you have no choice, evryone only agree to help her and kill in the end becuse others options have no point... And her entire event is waiting for research stuff end and just kill her, she alos block war in heaven probady most fun event in the game. She literaly make game worst at point where she is now and you should play her once for story and never come back
@@Darlf_Sevil To each their own. I don't know that I agree that her event is any more boring than the other events but as I said before there is definite room for improvement in how she plays out. She is NOT my favorite endgame crisis but like I said I DO appreciate the attempt at a fresh approach to the endgame.
While all of these military crises are undoubtably threatening, the typical Space Storms run the threat of destroying the hyperlane network. Granted, this will only occur after a very, very, VERY long time... The simple fact that galactic Travel may one day be reserved for Jump-Drives, Wormholes, and Gateways is horrific to imagine
I would imagine that the hyperlanes eventually form anew with new connections. So perhaps over a typical empires life that might occur but over a galactic timescale it seems unlikely to hold true.
I tried running 5x(i think) all crisis, it was disastrous but I somehow managed. Cetana was the 1st, then contingency and then scourge lastly unbidden. Guess what next time I tried running the same run, cetana was the last. Ohh god her ship is OP, my 3million fleet was easily beating contingency right before that. I wasn't even using by pass weapons. But then cetana? That main ship regeneration is off the charts. 1700 torpedo, 2000small autocannon, 1000 advanced strikecraft 200 tachyon lance, 300 kinetic artillery, 20 ancient ruination glare, uncountable amount of whirlwind missiles and plasmas firing all at once then she goes back to full hp within seconds.
I love to think that these "Hunters" are actully just Blokkats from the Gigastructures. Makes them a bit less scary and mysterious, but that's the point, I enjoy thinking of us, humans, as capable of dealing with literally _anything_ given enough intel and resources, including these terrifying Hunters.
according to the lore though the lower difficulties aren't canon, and even if you beat their first harvesting fleet they just nuke your entire galaxy and then scoop up what remains
that's literally exactly what the blokkats were designed for. in fact the prethoryn are coded to bail all at once if they're still around when the blokkats show up.
The most powerful crisis is the "RTD" or Response Time Delay. Because it can occur anytime and the longer the game, the more powerful it is. The Shroud gods tremble in fear, even the worm will burrow its head down deeper to whatever dimension it's in. For us humans it's commonly known as "L.A.G." 🤣
On that speculation: I feel they are not even the creators of the system, just the current one's tapped into it. The fact this unknown entity can summon any of the crisis is unusual enough though....
I remember my first time encountering a crisis event, it was the unbidden and I think I’ve said parts of this somewhere else but imma say it again. Anyways I was playing a halo mod and had the UNSC infinity which had thousands of heath points and attack points, and it had an escort fleet (I think it was like 10 cruisers, 50 destroyers, and like 150 corvettes) and that fleet was unmatched in the galaxy, until the unbidden arrive. At first I ignored the notifications completely and didn’t even notice the unbidden, until it got a foothold in the galaxy, and once I saw this I immediately sent the infinity and her fleet, and they got demolished by the Unbidden and any fleet I had would also be destroyed, now mind you I had just about 1/3 of the galaxy under my direct control and over 2/3 counting my Allie’s (AI) but any fleet I assembled would crumble to the unbidden (funnily enough this was just like the halo games when the UNSC was fighting the covenant) so I retreated to my core world (the few systems connected to Sol) and after one of the systems fell (Every system at that point had over 20 defenses platforms and 1 cruiser, 25 destroyers and 100 corvettes) and after one fell, I retreated everything back to Sol. At this point over half my empire was gone and I had a new infinity, and we actually managed to repel an attack from the unbidden, until they sent about 3 fleets at once then I lost the game (well I had half my empire but my fleets were gone and my economy was nonexistent)
What about those of before the Contingency like the ones around tile planet era of Stellaris. Alongside I personally think that the 3 base game crisis alongside the Great Khan did not age too well.
Nah... You fight aginest them and she... You just wait have some texst and kill her in one battle... You fight aginst her once you know what happend evry singiel time when other spread fight vs ai players ect she just do nothing that make me feel anything but big disappointment that I remove from the game with mods
Man makes machine. Machines advance past man. Machines end man. Machines wish to experience life. Machines make organic bodies. Machines become men. Repeat.
i made a reddit post about this got a lot of shit because i usually play 25x all crisis, by my testing she is 6 times stronger, which means that potentially in an all crisis run you could get, 25x 50x 600x and then 200x (which happened in my first run, the fleet i build to fight catena was way way way too strong for that last crisis, like it wasn't even funny how f****d the unbidden were). Even if she's the second to spawn that means you're already playing against 300x crisis. this testing did not take into account that if you let the crisis fester in theory the others could get a much stronger overall fleet, but the point was to check the initial deathstacks, and her's were consistently 6 times stronger so ye, if you do an all crisis run and aren't a hard core min maxxer (not that you need op builds, just really good empire management), cross your fingers for cetana to spawn first.
Not gonna lie, my first fight against Zetana was... underwhelming. It was at 10X but for some reason all her defensive fleets decided to go away to destroy everything and leaved her colossus alone and well... it was not even a fair fight.
The endgame crisis will not get to see my Xenocompatibility empire due to lag. Am I the endgame crisis because I cause the end of the game, or am I the savior of thr Galaxy because i prevent the crisis?
Her entire event is waiting until you can one shot her using big fregat fleet ... She literaly scard of fallen so much that she snipe them, 99% only one empire in galaxsy is attacking her and she still lose... I gona say gray tempest is even stronger looking at her lore and time where she happend in game and how much you need to kill her
I love this guys stuff as a Stellaris player myself. Watched almost all his stuff whilst high, enthralling is the word. And I thought I was the only one who makes up detailed lore about my play throughs
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I’d like to put a word in for the Space Storm. It’s use of the deadly weapon known as “Lag” is truly terrifying
@@ElysiumCreator you dare mention the unholy one?
Even the beings of the Shroud tremble at the mere mention of the LAG.
Even the Worm burrows itself at the whispers of it.
Cetana when she sees my 200 fleet size of doomstack nano missle corvettes: 🗿
Are you trying to detonate your computer
@@BisexualPlagueDoctor There is a limit on how many is on screen,more than that and the game stops rendering them.
“Hm. It would seem I am, as my children say, ‘Cooked’.”
*Gets Disintegrated violently.*
@@arielli9489 Exactly. In my previous game I flooded her with fleets made up of either Nanite Interdictor carriers or Nanite Swarmers with torpedoes. The missiles didn't render and it was laggy as hell but it looked like she was being eaten by a bunch of hungry Piranhas.
When the crisis comes but you are prepared/modded beyond imagination.
I wish Cetana was something other than galactic annihilation. Like forced synthetic or virtual ascension/enslavement. Would have fit the DLC better imo. Like she is “saving” us but really not, like a broken benevolent fanaticism.
She technically is within the narrative. It just doesn't show in gameplay because the government ceases to exist hence nothing for the player to pilot.
To bad we can’t repair the caretakers
personally i think if i build enough (starter) corvettes filled with nuclear missiles i can take on every crisis at once
I mean yeah, agreed. Enough ships and you'll beat everything! Swarm them :)
If every crisis happens at once Cetana rolls everything.
Is Corvette zerg rush still a thing in Stellatis?
@@MaaZeus Kind of but not really. It is still possible but its no longer even close to being the best. So sure you CAN do it but there are better ways usually.
@@TheRedKingi dont have the end game boss on but i will spam menacing Corvettes if i do one day chose them
Red King: "My Lords, the Contingency prefers to focus on empires with large quantities of robotic pops."
The Lords: "What's a pop?"
Ahh a freudian slip! They're going to realise i'm part of the simulation!!
Everyone knows xeno-compatibility is the mightiest of all the end game crisis, for it will melt your rig as well as your worlds.
But we get to have cat girls so it's a win in my book
@@Hamburgerhuman yes inquisitor this is the heretic right here
That's so cool that Cetana is coded to wipe out every threat to the galaxy that isn't her...after her revenge on the fallen empires of course. Priorities ARE priorities after all lol
But not that cool that her entire crisis is waiting and sniping her core ship
@@Darlf_Sevil Her overall event could definitely be better but I appreciate that they tried to go in a different direction. The other 3 crisis events are just "Fight back" and two of them are "Fight the enemy back to their home base and destroy it."
Cetana at least gives you a problem you can't solve purely by just spamming ships with a counter build. And you can even choose to side with her. Doing that with the other events just means letting them go unchecked until they steamroll you and everyone else.
So she's not perfect I think overall she's pretty cool and has at the very least a very interesting take on "This is how the galaxy ends."
@TehKang but others change depend on where they spawn and other ai in galaxsy, she is alywas the same and at this point she is most boring of them all and should het reworked as first due toher evry singiel fight look the same
@TehKang no you have no choice, evryone only agree to help her and kill in the end becuse others options have no point... And her entire event is waiting for research stuff end and just kill her, she alos block war in heaven probady most fun event in the game. She literaly make game worst at point where she is now and you should play her once for story and never come back
@@Darlf_Sevil To each their own. I don't know that I agree that her event is any more boring than the other events but as I said before there is definite room for improvement in how she plays out. She is NOT my favorite endgame crisis but like I said I DO appreciate the attempt at a fresh approach to the endgame.
While all of these military crises are undoubtably threatening, the typical Space Storms run the threat of destroying the hyperlane network. Granted, this will only occur after a very, very, VERY long time... The simple fact that galactic Travel may one day be reserved for Jump-Drives, Wormholes, and Gateways is horrific to imagine
I would imagine that the hyperlanes eventually form anew with new connections. So perhaps over a typical empires life that might occur but over a galactic timescale it seems unlikely to hold true.
I think the real crisis was the empires we built along the way.
I'll see myself out.
I tried running 5x(i think) all crisis, it was disastrous but I somehow managed. Cetana was the 1st, then contingency and then scourge lastly unbidden.
Guess what next time I tried running the same run, cetana was the last. Ohh god her ship is OP, my 3million fleet was easily beating contingency right before that. I wasn't even using by pass weapons. But then cetana? That main ship regeneration is off the charts. 1700 torpedo, 2000small autocannon, 1000 advanced strikecraft 200 tachyon lance, 300 kinetic artillery, 20 ancient ruination glare, uncountable amount of whirlwind missiles and plasmas firing all at once then she goes back to full hp within seconds.
im ngl i just saw a random tiktok about the newest one and made me wanna watch a video about the threats this just posted is crazy timing
Someone is making Stellaris Tiktoks? :O - well hope you enjoy this!
I love to think that these "Hunters" are actully just Blokkats from the Gigastructures. Makes them a bit less scary and mysterious, but that's the point, I enjoy thinking of us, humans, as capable of dealing with literally _anything_ given enough intel and resources, including these terrifying Hunters.
according to the lore though the lower difficulties aren't canon, and even if you beat their first harvesting fleet they just nuke your entire galaxy and then scoop up what remains
that's literally exactly what the blokkats were designed for. in fact the prethoryn are coded to bail all at once if they're still around when the blokkats show up.
I mean. They literally are the hunters acording to the mod creator. Of course it's not cannon but it is what they were based on.
Humans are not able to survive against other humans, means that we can lose, otherwise all our wars should have been stalemates.
nice use of the vultum at the start
I do my best :)
@@TheRedKing it alway nice
it really feel like it an empire learning about all that stuff, learning what is happening in the universe around them
An hour long video, thank you, King!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Nah I’d win
Spoiler ahead...
You do not win!
Nah it was rigged, trust
Someone went the nemesis route
@@TheContingency25x If it isn’t my enemy 😂
So you are saying you have a contingency for this situation?
The most powerful crisis is the "RTD" or Response Time Delay. Because it can occur anytime and the longer the game, the more powerful it is. The Shroud gods tremble in fear, even the worm will burrow its head down deeper to whatever dimension it's in. For us humans it's commonly known as "L.A.G." 🤣
That was a great lore dive, and the helpful tips are super appreciated
On that speculation:
I feel they are not even the creators of the system, just the current one's tapped into it.
The fact this unknown entity can summon any of the crisis is unusual enough though....
The in-game simulation was awesome. This made doing the dishes breeze by
I remember my first time encountering a crisis event, it was the unbidden and I think I’ve said parts of this somewhere else but imma say it again. Anyways I was playing a halo mod and had the UNSC infinity which had thousands of heath points and attack points, and it had an escort fleet (I think it was like 10 cruisers, 50 destroyers, and like 150 corvettes) and that fleet was unmatched in the galaxy, until the unbidden arrive. At first I ignored the notifications completely and didn’t even notice the unbidden, until it got a foothold in the galaxy, and once I saw this I immediately sent the infinity and her fleet, and they got demolished by the Unbidden and any fleet I had would also be destroyed, now mind you I had just about 1/3 of the galaxy under my direct control and over 2/3 counting my Allie’s (AI) but any fleet I assembled would crumble to the unbidden (funnily enough this was just like the halo games when the UNSC was fighting the covenant) so I retreated to my core world (the few systems connected to Sol) and after one of the systems fell (Every system at that point had over 20 defenses platforms and 1 cruiser, 25 destroyers and 100 corvettes) and after one fell, I retreated everything back to Sol. At this point over half my empire was gone and I had a new infinity, and we actually managed to repel an attack from the unbidden, until they sent about 3 fleets at once then I lost the game (well I had half my empire but my fleets were gone and my economy was nonexistent)
What about those of before the Contingency like the ones around tile planet era of Stellaris.
Alongside I personally think that the 3 base game crisis alongside the Great Khan did not age too well.
Nah... You fight aginest them and she... You just wait have some texst and kill her in one battle... You fight aginst her once you know what happend evry singiel time when other spread fight vs ai players ect she just do nothing that make me feel anything but big disappointment that I remove from the game with mods
You should cover “the compound” in giga engineering, one of the strongest crises by far
wait for the rework for them to drop first.
Yes, everything in that mod is super overpowered, it's like warhammer 40k.
@1.-ulysses334 the attack moons are most def a reference to the orkk attack moons form the war of the beast
“There can only be one ruler of the galaxy, and we all know who that is…”
ITS ME
Man makes machine. Machines advance past man.
Machines end man.
Machines wish to experience life.
Machines make organic bodies.
Machines become men.
Repeat.
Ultima Vigilis only spawns the Unbidden crisis
No It spawns whatever crisis is enabled earlier than it would spawn otherwise
The real Crisis is the Nanite player who just spams ships to see how long untill his pc detonates
i made a reddit post about this got a lot of shit because i usually play 25x all crisis, by my testing she is 6 times stronger, which means that potentially in an all crisis run you could get, 25x 50x 600x and then 200x (which happened in my first run, the fleet i build to fight catena was way way way too strong for that last crisis, like it wasn't even funny how f****d the unbidden were). Even if she's the second to spawn that means you're already playing against 300x crisis. this testing did not take into account that if you let the crisis fester in theory the others could get a much stronger overall fleet, but the point was to check the initial deathstacks, and her's were consistently 6 times stronger so ye, if you do an all crisis run and aren't a hard core min maxxer (not that you need op builds, just really good empire management), cross your fingers for cetana to spawn first.
Thank you for cool podcast.
Thanks for listening!!
I like to think that the class 30 singularity is the players empire ascending into godhood (or the shroud)
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You have such pleasant voice
Thanks very much!!
Not gonna lie, my first fight against Zetana was... underwhelming. It was at 10X but for some reason all her defensive fleets decided to go away to destroy everything and leaved her colossus alone and well... it was not even a fair fight.
it would defenetively be my buddy Eric.
Come on Eric! Be a nice guy for once
The endgame crisis will not get to see my Xenocompatibility empire due to lag. Am I the endgame crisis because I cause the end of the game, or am I the savior of thr Galaxy because i prevent the crisis?
I love fentanyl
I prefer doing zro
First for Cetana
Cetana, in my opinion, is the weakest. Particularly because she can be defeated without even having to fight her.
Her entire event is waiting until you can one shot her using big fregat fleet ... She literaly scard of fallen so much that she snipe them, 99% only one empire in galaxsy is attacking her and she still lose... I gona say gray tempest is even stronger looking at her lore and time where she happend in game and how much you need to kill her
I love this guys stuff as a Stellaris player myself. Watched almost all his stuff whilst high, enthralling is the word. And I thought I was the only one who makes up detailed lore about my play throughs
You should cover “the compound” in giga engineering, one of the strongest crises by far