Nairo as a player is an argument that Smash4 could be 3 stock. 3 matches against a questionably top player in 7 mins, shit. Dabuz is an argument for why it should stay 2 stock tho
+SSBBFalco if that's true that's definitely uncharacteristic for Smash4 in general. that's why I don't see it getting changed anytime soon unfortunately. I'll always play 3 stock in my house
+CryMan McBosselot I used to be an advocate for 3 stocks. It's really frustrating when you SD because you lost half of your stocks as opposed to 3 stocks. But now I'm okay with 2 stocks because recovering is so easy with most characters so if you SD that's your fault and you should feel ashamed of it, and it's even more annoying sitting and waiting through a 3 stock match for your turn to play.
+CryMan McBosselot Another argument for 2 stocks is that it's just more exciting. One kill means you're halfway to winning, so each play matters more. And it's very fast paced so you just move on to the next match. I think 2 stocks best of 5 is the ideal for viewers. 3 stocks take a while sometimes with several matchups, especially with how many characters are viable. It's more likely than Melee to get a very slow paced match. Also 3 stocks best of 5 would literally take forever.
+CryMan McBosselot I think part of the reason people want 3 stocks is because Melee has 4, so going from 4 stocks to 2 is a jarring difference. However, if you compare it to Street Fighter, they technically only have 2 lives per match (although their health resets). I will admit that 2 stocks best of 3 is too short though. It's too easy to lose a set with 2 stocks and you only need to win twice.
+CryMan McBosselot Yeah ik there were SO many 2 stocks in this tournament, especially in the higher level matches, the game might become 3stock soon (2stock pools maybe?)
zion basto You must not know how double elimination brackets work. You need to lose 2 sets to get knocked out. Look up a double elimination bracket. It's easier to see it than to explain it.
This a foreshadowing to the Nairo c Nakat streams lmaoooo Also love the Castlevania references in these old smash matches, they almost feel like an Easter egg
Im surprised Nakat never used pk fire at all in this set, especially when he had perfect opportunities to use it like at 4:17 where he could of got a free 40 damage
in the thumbnail it says that this happened 8/23-26 but during the match the commentators say that this happened after Nairo broke the streak of Zero which was like two weeks ago... can someone address to me the chronology of this?
Good job NAKAT for repping the M O T H E R B O Y Z (especially Lucas, he barely gets any love from the pros, and I bet if NAKAT wasn't so shaken up, he could've taken that last game) this is good fuel to keep me going as a Lucas/Shulk main.
Well... 1) I seldomly play smash 4 2) When I play it I only play against computers atm since my bro basically quit 3) I main pikachu when I play now, but originally it was dk and peach.
I don't know why people keep taking ZSS to Town and City. Low ceiling and smaller blast zones, it's like it was just a salty runback. I feel like he Nakat could have chosen better stages.
It's not that Pikachu is heavy...Nairo is staling his moves and their utility become weaker and sent less farther the more he uses moves repetitively like Up-B or B-air.
You know that unreliable considering the start up of the bat especially again a fast character like ZSS who doesn't know what "end lag" is right ? You have some good match up knowledge m8
+Draco Sol PK Fires are pretty dangerous, I try to use them as little as I can myself. I was surprised to not see PK thunder 2 ledge traps from Nakat, he loves those and they work pretty well.
Nakat needs to step up his shit, he was taking it easy for a while!! I know he can beat Nairo, I know it and Im a BIG fan of Nairo always been since he started using ZsS, and Nakat has a nasty Ness.
+GDGuitar95 I know, is there a problem with wanting to see him use another character? He doesn't ONLY know how to play ZSS. When he used Dr Mario that was awesome! I'd love to see more of THAT
+Matt Man 416 Apparently, he was using other characters than ZSS in Pools this Tourney. Nairo also uses Zelda, Lucina, Dark Pit and Robin. Nairo will stick to ZSS most of the time because he wants to win. He usually picks Dark Pit as a counterpick.
+Matt Man 416 he's playing to win, why on earth would he play other characters when zss is his best one? to appease you? Like esam said once if he's playing to win he's gonna play pikachu 99% of the time unless forced to change (against nairos doc)
3:43 Nairo is in sync with Onett's music
Lol you noticed that too
Nairo would be good at mother 3
Nice lmao
3:24 Nakat be on his way to the hospital in the background lmao
+Phoenix Wright LMAOOO! xD
I CANT BREATHE XDDDDD
+Phoenix Wright I'm dead
+Smashville4 DAMN
Nairo as a player is an argument that Smash4 could be 3 stock. 3 matches against a questionably top player in 7 mins, shit.
Dabuz is an argument for why it should stay 2 stock tho
+SSBBFalco if that's true that's definitely uncharacteristic for Smash4 in general. that's why I don't see it getting changed anytime soon unfortunately. I'll always play 3 stock in my house
+CryMan McBosselot I used to be an advocate for 3 stocks. It's really frustrating when you SD because you lost half of your stocks as opposed to 3 stocks. But now I'm okay with 2 stocks because recovering is so easy with most characters so if you SD that's your fault and you should feel ashamed of it, and it's even more annoying sitting and waiting through a 3 stock match for your turn to play.
+CryMan McBosselot Another argument for 2 stocks is that it's just more exciting. One kill means you're halfway to winning, so each play matters more. And it's very fast paced so you just move on to the next match. I think 2 stocks best of 5 is the ideal for viewers. 3 stocks take a while sometimes with several matchups, especially with how many characters are viable. It's more likely than Melee to get a very slow paced match. Also 3 stocks best of 5 would literally take forever.
+CryMan McBosselot I think part of the reason people want 3 stocks is because Melee has 4, so going from 4 stocks to 2 is a jarring difference. However, if you compare it to Street Fighter, they technically only have 2 lives per match (although their health resets). I will admit that 2 stocks best of 3 is too short though. It's too easy to lose a set with 2 stocks and you only need to win twice.
+CryMan McBosselot Yeah ik there were SO many 2 stocks in this tournament, especially in the higher level matches, the game might become 3stock soon (2stock pools maybe?)
Nakat 3-0's Nairo. Then Nairo 6-0'd Nakat back. Dang, Nairo went Super Saiyan God in between matches.
He got a zenkai boost
Nairo went Mr Satan mode on Nakat.
+Yami Nah, all he did was a anime glasses push and he was golden
+Yami Eh, but why did Nakat have to face Nairo even after he beat him? That isn't really fair in my opinion.
zion basto You must not know how double elimination brackets work. You need to lose 2 sets to get knocked out. Look up a double elimination bracket. It's easier to see it than to explain it.
This a foreshadowing to the Nairo c Nakat streams lmaoooo
Also love the Castlevania references in these old smash matches, they almost feel like an Easter egg
THOSE PRADA SHOES LOOKIN CRISPPPP
LOL I LOVE THIS GUY
Ness, Pikachu and Lucas? Nakat pulling out all the mains, but in the end, NAIROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
+SSG Rapid I can't believe I did that.
+boribori609 but hurt nakat fan is but hurt
The ender king Shhhhhhh. Let him be.
SSG Rapid I failed you fam, I'll make sure it never happens again.
Prince of Fate Thanks for putting salt in my wounds... bruh
Zairs, Grabs, Arials, Up-Bs. Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the year 20ZSS.
Pls nerf nairo.
lol best joke of the week
+Aj Irving then ZeRo will be OP again
how does nairo always land is up a up a up b combo. whenever i try to do it they dodge the second hit. can anyone give tips?
same problem here
+MirFälltKeinNameEin i think tournament players don't like air dodging that much because it's considered "noob-ish" o.0
1:35 best punish, most optimal and super disrespectful
8:22, those Ness screams hahaha xD
is ZSS's jumping lighting whip in the DS version??
at 10:07, couldnt he use ness bat to reflect the paralyzer?
+Lazaro Angel (SVX) It's not that simple
"Yo, I never played Castlevania."
I'm dyinggg.
I give nakat some respect because he lost a lot of games in a row but he just kept going.
The commentator called Boney "The little bear".
I'm done
Same
Im surprised Nakat never used pk fire at all in this set, especially when he had perfect opportunities to use it like at 4:17 where he could of got a free 40 damage
Nairo v Trela would have been a hyper grand final.
truth
Yeah Trela was atleast 3-2 this was just a pitbull against 1 day old kitty.
Rip pitbull :(
+Pro Txt nakat played very well dude, there is no offense needed
in the thumbnail it says that this happened 8/23-26 but during the match the commentators say that this happened after Nairo broke the streak of Zero which was like two weeks ago... can someone address to me the chronology of this?
+GUSTAVOPINGPONG Yeah, it should say 10/23 - 26, the dates are correct in the video description.
"The little bear on his shirt" TK don't even know about Boney... Dang man
CLG WINS ONE SET/GAME TO GIVE FANS FALSE HOPE
NO GAME IS SAFE
SAVAGE
What happened with Nakat and LoF?
LoF is a crew CLG is his new sponsor
Good job NAKAT for repping the M O T H E R B O Y Z (especially Lucas, he barely gets any love from the pros, and I bet if NAKAT wasn't so shaken up, he could've taken that last game) this is good fuel to keep me going as a Lucas/Shulk main.
*PK-fire hits balloon.
Ban Town and City! Way too unfair!
Nairo changed his costume color, now hes in his final form.
Still supporting Nakat.
+Manectric All the way. :)
I support both
Isaac Jones
I respect Nairo but I don't follow him much
"I respect NAKAT, but he got 6-0-wned" -Nairo
+Pro Txt somebody needs to tell Nairo his play isnt as good as his character
+lucabaar1 On that Zss is op bandwagon, huh? Keep collecting dirt
+Pro Txt 2 questions: who do you main? What reasons do you have for disagreeing?
Well...
1) I seldomly play smash 4
2) When I play it I only play against computers atm since my bro basically quit
3) I main pikachu when I play now, but originally it was dk and peach.
+Lucas Barone What you should tell me is why you felt the need to reply to my opinion with your opposing opinion
The commentators definitely help make these matches. I like them, and nice job from the players, too. Very entertaining matches all around.
+Kyujib Lmao, "Shoutouts to Ambien." xD
1:34 ZSS be like "GO BACK TO SCHOOL KID"
#Savage. Woe is me, I have failed to impress and look cool in the TH-cam comment section!
The Ness screams at 08:47. He's been a bad boy. :/
"We on the Onett boy's stage, AKA da trap haus" xD
OMG LISTEN TO THE MUSIC AT 3:45 AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
+ramjet onett boyz
+ramjet I noticed that
I'll give all my support to Ness/Lucas mains, I wonder if they someday will won something big
Lucas isn't from Onett lol
Not sure why Nakat only used Pikachu once
I don't know why people keep taking ZSS to Town and City. Low ceiling and smaller blast zones, it's like it was just a salty runback. I feel like he Nakat could have chosen better stages.
Nakat, wtf you gave Ness mains a good look in winners finals, what happened man?
Lmao, your name is so similar to mine.
Zero suit shouldn't have garanteed combos or some garanteed combos from down throw after 120%
I don't mind down throw up air as a kill move. Her grab is heavily risk/reward so she should get rewarded heavily.
+JJ Diaz Remember how Luigi had better guaranteed combo after 120%. Ah, good times.
Dat Ain't Falco Luigi doesn't have a tether grab. He never had the risk of hard punishment the way ZSS does.
+JJ Diaz true
+Dat Ain't Falco Your name.....
It's amazing.
'' Is this Crime Mob? '' LOL dead
so I guess now white ZSS is the blue god super saiyan?
lmao ness screamed so much at 8:50
Has zero lost a tournament yet?
He lost at MLG Chicago to Nairo just recently. It was a very close all the way through.
+grepgrap The 1st set was but the second set, Nairo destroyed Zero, like dang man.
It's not that Pikachu is heavy...Nairo is staling his moves and their utility become weaker and sent less farther the more he uses moves repetitively like Up-B or B-air.
"Heel 2 da HEAD and now you DED." xD
And after getting destroyed by Nakat, Nairo is reborn as zero suit the white and wins it all
You know Ness has a bat right?
You know that unreliable considering the start up of the bat especially again a fast character like ZSS who doesn't know what "end lag" is right ? You have some good match up knowledge m8
I remember nakat use to beat nairo all the time. now we completely forgot nakats wins.
What? Not one PK fire? Is Nakat even PLAYING Ness? This is unbelievable!
He used one to pop the balloon.
+Draco Sol PK Fires are pretty dangerous, I try to use them as little as I can myself. I was surprised to not see PK thunder 2 ledge traps from Nakat, he loves those and they work pretty well.
4:00 ness dash attack beats zss grab.. O.O
Attacks beat grabs
Wait. The reward for winning this was $20,000?
FINALLY Someone with actual skill that knows how to beat Ness NOT Nakat NESS.
Not using that homerun Ness bat enough! And there shoud be a cancel for ness's up B
Nairo finally got a shape up, yes! Lol
Nairo vs. Trela should've been the real final
0:56 lol rip zss nair
8:54 Someone stop this man
nakat shouldn't beat himself up too much after this, he did get second and 3-0'd nairo in winners finals, after all though nario is number 2
he then proceeded to get 6-0d by nairo.
+Kevin Tejada Yes i've watched the video:L
NAIROS BACK, AND HES ANGRY
nairo: watch whip whip now watch nae nae!
Who ever thought that these girls would get crunk?
I am loving these commentators
I bet Leffen knows who Nakat is now.
They both got 6-0'd.
Trela vs Nario=better grand finals
Trela vs 8bitman > Trela vs Nairo > Grand Finals
+jakubiscooler911 ok lol
+Dark Night 274 UpB shenanigans are strong with that man
+jakubiscooler911 pretty much every match with Nairo or Trela or at least ZSS or Ryu is BOUND to be hype
Doc??? lol
Nakat needs to step up his shit, he was taking it easy for a while!! I know he can beat Nairo, I know it and Im a BIG fan of Nairo always been since he started using ZsS, and Nakat has a nasty Ness.
I don't get why they still call Ness a top tier. He's just a little ball of hitboxes that can't hit where he's not at.
Salty For Glory players calling Ness top tier
Fanboys calling Lucas high tier
Some told me that ZSS= Zero Skill Spamus.
+jesus aguirre someone told me u mad boyy
+Frank P. Damn don't ever remember commenting on this.
im glad nakat made it this far tbh :)
da champ comes back!
that crawl tho
Rip lof
Leap of faith
Nakat got rekt in the first few matches.
The loser finals match was much more hype than this
Again with the simon Belmont 😅
DOUBLE 69%
Amazing...
God dang it Nairo
I love Nairo but I'm so sick of seeing ZSS
+Matt Man 416 Nairo is one of the few ZSS players that makes it to Top 8...
+GDGuitar95 I know, is there a problem with wanting to see him use another character? He doesn't ONLY know how to play ZSS. When he used Dr Mario that was awesome! I'd love to see more of THAT
+Matt Man 416 Apparently, he was using other characters than ZSS in Pools this Tourney. Nairo also uses Zelda, Lucina, Dark Pit and Robin. Nairo will stick to ZSS most of the time because he wants to win. He usually picks Dark Pit as a counterpick.
+Matt Man 416 he's playing to win, why on earth would he play other characters when zss is his best one? to appease you? Like esam said once if he's playing to win he's gonna play pikachu 99% of the time unless forced to change (against nairos doc)
+Matt Man 416 is there a problem with wanting to see another character? of course not
Nair to down b = heel to the head now your dead
i smell sandbaggin from nakat lol
nairo is going to become the new zero.
+Tyson Robinson the new zero should never lose, nairo is the new nairo
Good point
Boney = bear
I can see the resemblance *Kappa*
Nairo da Gawd
Musical rhyme.
In. Tense.
damn, nairo destroyed that man omg.
zss has too many true combos. pls nerf
I'm sorry awful ness.
Liquid ZSS is the goat
Put your armour back on Samus! Jeez, what kind of example are you setting for young women?
To have really fit bodies and be very athletic, all while whoopin' some serious tail.
sakurai pls nerf nairo
wow
gg nairo
EE IS A SELLOUT LOL
no saben jugar con ness
Nairo is not fun to watch.
he doesnt play for your entertainment lol he play for the $$$
melee is better
nakat is a fraud lol
2nd