Hey curious about something. The area I'm from not a real big population but the number of world famous people from here is strange. T BONE WALKER SCOTT JOPLIN ROSCOE BECK DON HENLEY ELLEN BESSIE COLEMAN. NORTH EAST TEXAS NEAR TEXARKANA.
How has history skipped over this ingenious man? He's not exactly a founding father, but he was apparently an incredibly forward rhinking individual at the beginning of our country.
Incredible, I work where this garden once was and I had no idea! I’m sitting on the land as I’m writing this… incredible! As something of an amateur botanist, it pains me to know I had never heard of this amazing man. Thanks for sharing his story, he truly had a tremendous impact on shaping America’s path towards becoming the scientific superpower we know today, built on the backs of early scientists.
Watched the video, then I liked it so much that, I had my sister and brother-in-law watch it. My sister is an RN with 30+ years of experience, she pushed to have this watch in the RN program she is currently working with. She's a firm believer in ALL history related to medicine.
Being a native of the Philly region, I was ready to hit the ALLCAPS and go full-on keyboard commander, just to rag on NYC. But..nope! This is a brilliant piece of forgotten history! Well done, as always, Lance!
A bit of trivia about the Hamilton-Burr duel. For the bicentennial, a gunsmith was commissioned to reproduce the pistols used. The gunsmith disassembled the pistols and discovered they had a hidden set trigger. If the trigger was pushed forward before firing, it would result in a very light "hair" trigger. the unset trigger pull was quite heavy. The pistols belonged to Hamilton.
Satellite and aerial photography & LIDAR is revealing fascinating things, things forgotten, cities, roads. The drought in Europe and the Victorian Gardens reappearing is intriguing.
Thank you for this one. Dr. Hosack was very committed to his science and passions, inspiring. Your epilogue of the number of botanical gardens in the U.S. is notable. Related but not quite the same, visitors to the Phoenix/Mesa Az area should take a 40min drive out to the Boyce Thompson Arboretum. Acres dedicated to the collection of the world's desert environment plants, bushes, and trees. A great morning's walk unspoiled. This collection started in the 1920's and is strong today.
When I lived in Brooklyn and worked in Manhattan I used to take the B train and then walked from Radio City west to my employers. Now I find out from the History Guy that every day I walked past the entrance to Doctor Hosack's Green House! After living In New York for three years I keep forgetting that once upon a time it was just a small city in a wild state!
A more famous example is that there used to be a huge water reservoir where the New York Public Library now stands at 42nd Street and 5th Avenue in NYC. Since the late 19th century, NYC has gotten its water from other sources. But like the Husack Garden, the Reservoir is still commemorated in pictures--if you know where to look.
I have seen photos of that reservoir! They took soil from a subway tunnel under construction to fill the hole and I read that the stone wall surrounding it was removed but the author couldn't find out where the stone went. @@stevenlitvintchouk3131
I had hoped for an historical connection the "Big Yellow Taxi" by Joni Mitchell you mentioned in your opening but alas, the song seems to be based on experiences Mitchell had in Hawaii. There is a recurring theme in your work however in that "Don't it always seem to go, That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone". Humans always seem to forget and "Pave(d) paradise, put up a parking lot" both physically and historically.
I listen while involved in gardening or painting. I just realized that there may be text that is not spoken--happened to look at the right moment--and wonder how much I've missed. 😢
A bit of family history of mine now, THG mentioned that Hosack had treated Theodora Burr, who was married to Joseph Alston of South Carolina, an ancestor of mine. Unfortunately their son Arron Burr Alston died at the age of eleven and shortly thereafter Theodora was eventually lost in a shipwreck off the coast of North Carolina at the Graveyard of the Atlantic.
I'm originally from New York but I'm watching this from L.A. where I live today and I knew nothing about this man or his garden. And what a coincidence that I watched this after watching the Christmas Tree Lighting ceremony in Rockefeller Center tonight. All those holiday activities happening right on top of Hosack's garden.
I wonder if David Hosack met Alexander Von Humboldt? Andrea Wulfs book, "The Invention of Nature - Alexander Von Humboldt's New World" is a good read. She also has a couple of other books that relate to this video, "The Founding Gardeners" and "The Brother Gardeners." Humboldt's name was once one of the most prevalent names in the U.S. Humboldt Couty & River survived, but there was a purge of German names during and after WWI and Humboldt's name was included in that purge. If anyone has the opportunity to visit Fairchild Tropical Garden in Miami, I highly recommend it. It was started by David Fairchild, an actor that traveled the world in a large sailing ship and brought back plants and trees from wherever he went. David Fairchild is the son-in-law of Alexander Hamilton.
It’s a shame they couldn’t see the beauty and usefulness and kept some of the garden. But I’m glad botanical gardens are prevalent know, we have a gorgeous one at City Park. Luckily my city has hung on to some large green and small green spaces for everyone to enjoy.
Benjamin Rush state park is the only state park inside the city limits of Philadelphia. it also includes a community garden- we had a garden plot there one year....
.. I wonder .. what would David Hosack think of New York today ? Thank you HG...you teach these 73 year old brain cells something marvelous every day !! I to am a cat guy...Emma says hello !
all those high friends n still he lost it - i would of had tours and lectures at the gardens opened it up to the public on certain days and gone to the papers with a once a week detailed Botany of a single plant , what a shame for such an honourable selfless project
"The Chelsea Physic Garden was established as the Apothecaries' Garden in London, England, in 1673 by the Worshipful Society of Apothecaries to grow plants to be used as medicines." This garden is 3.5 acres in size. It's a shame the New York garden has gone.
A fitting thing.... Rockefeller Center should plant a Christmas tree that can grow and thrive.... that way there would be a permanent huge tree all year long, decorated for every season.... a true way to honor the botanical genius that had tried to keep and save the garden that had already been there!! ❤🙏😊
Imagine the cures if that garden had stayed in service. It would still be a hotspot for medical science. New York could’ve been completely different entirely!!!
Why didn’t they move the specimens from the gardens, instead of concreting on top of them? Or why didn’t they create an underground museum, to remember the gardens? Perhaps with some clever lighting, mirrors and glass roads, they could’ve even kept some of the plants alive.
Question, I remember a society from the 1700s/1800s that was in Pennsylvania called the Audobon Society, I think it was for birds and bird species, was it somehow similarly setup by ornithologists of the same period?
Sadly, the history of the Elgan garden reflects the short-sightedness of the general approach by most American groups--proventialism and lack of insight. The basis of medicine is plants and their beneficial effect upon humans. So, botany, the lesser of the scientific arts or the foundation upon which the rest of the scientific arts are based?
Concerning your sponsor, one person can be falsely accused of being whatever for researching something, which to the paranoid means that someone can pick whatever brush to paint you with. Don't research that. LoL
This is a classic use of the term, which generally meant someone who understood the wider world. It was usually applied to scholars. I don’t think it was making any statement about national citizenship. By any definition the good doctor was both a good citizen and a patriot.
This is why Americans have always been seen as "backward", if not worse. Bean counters always fail to see and appreciate innovation and are so unimaginative to seize great opportunities before the flood. Such as The Elgin Garden and so too The SSC down in Texas.
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Hey curious about something.
The area I'm from not a real big population but the number of world famous people from here is strange. T BONE WALKER SCOTT JOPLIN ROSCOE BECK DON HENLEY ELLEN BESSIE COLEMAN.
NORTH EAST TEXAS NEAR TEXARKANA.
How has history skipped over this ingenious man? He's not exactly a founding father, but he was apparently an incredibly forward rhinking individual at the beginning of our country.
Incredible, I work where this garden once was and I had no idea! I’m sitting on the land as I’m writing this… incredible! As something of an amateur botanist, it pains me to know I had never heard of this amazing man. Thanks for sharing his story, he truly had a tremendous impact on shaping America’s path towards becoming the scientific superpower we know today, built on the backs of early scientists.
Watched the video, then I liked it so much that, I had my sister and brother-in-law watch it. My sister is an RN with 30+ years of experience, she pushed to have this watch in the RN program she is currently working with. She's a firm believer in ALL history related to medicine.
A great example of a man ahead of his time! Thanks for this episode.
THG, what a terrific piece of forgotten history, plum in the middle of Manhattan! Thank you for reminding us of David Hassic (?) and his garden.
Being a native of the Philly region, I was ready to hit the ALLCAPS and go full-on keyboard commander, just to rag on NYC. But..nope! This is a brilliant piece of forgotten history! Well done, as always, Lance!
A bit of trivia about the Hamilton-Burr duel. For the bicentennial, a gunsmith was commissioned to reproduce the pistols used. The gunsmith disassembled the pistols and discovered they had a hidden set trigger. If the trigger was pushed forward before firing, it would result in a very light "hair" trigger. the unset trigger pull was quite heavy. The pistols belonged to Hamilton.
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My Jr high American history teacher told us that. He didn't have much good to say about Hamilton 😊.
Good Wednesday morning History Guy and everyone watching...
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Good morning to you, too.
Satellite and aerial photography & LIDAR is revealing fascinating things, things forgotten, cities, roads. The drought in Europe and the Victorian Gardens reappearing is intriguing.
The Brooklyn Botanical Garden is very cool, too.
I grew up 5 minutes away from the Bronx Botanical Gardens. It is huge & an awesome place to visit.
Thank you, history guy. I wish you a merry holiday season to you and all yours a happy new year.
Same to you!
Thank you for this one. Dr. Hosack was very committed to his science and passions, inspiring. Your epilogue of the number of botanical gardens in the U.S. is notable. Related but not quite the same, visitors to the Phoenix/Mesa Az area should take a 40min drive out to the Boyce Thompson Arboretum. Acres dedicated to the collection of the world's desert environment plants, bushes, and trees. A great morning's walk unspoiled. This collection started in the 1920's and is strong today.
When I lived in Brooklyn and worked in Manhattan I used to take the B train and then walked from Radio City west to my employers. Now I find out from the History Guy that every day I walked past the entrance to Doctor Hosack's Green House! After living In New York for three years I keep forgetting that once upon a time it was just a small city in a wild state!
A more famous example is that there used to be a huge water reservoir where the New York Public Library now stands at 42nd Street and 5th Avenue in NYC. Since the late 19th century, NYC has gotten its water from other sources. But like the Husack Garden, the Reservoir is still commemorated in pictures--if you know where to look.
I have seen photos of that reservoir! They took soil from a subway tunnel under construction to fill the hole and I read that the stone wall surrounding it was removed but the author couldn't find out where the stone went. @@stevenlitvintchouk3131
I had hoped for an historical connection the "Big Yellow Taxi" by Joni Mitchell you mentioned in your opening but alas, the song seems to be based on experiences Mitchell had in Hawaii. There is a recurring theme in your work however in that "Don't it always seem to go, That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone". Humans always seem to forget and "Pave(d) paradise, put up a parking lot" both physically and historically.
My wedding to my current wife was performed at the Kanapaha Botanical Gardens in Gainesville FL .
I listen while involved in gardening or painting. I just realized that there may be text that is not spoken--happened to look at the right moment--and wonder how much I've missed. 😢
Wow. History with an enduring impact.
Dusk falling on the mango tree's. My wife adds more plants and tree's every time we go out. An excellent narrative this was. Good night
That is just heartbreaking.
It is definitely a beautiful garden. I love the vision and he actually make it on realization. He believe in himself and totally ahead of his time
A bit of family history of mine now, THG mentioned that Hosack had treated Theodora Burr, who was married to Joseph Alston of South Carolina, an ancestor of mine. Unfortunately their son Arron Burr Alston died at the age of eleven and shortly thereafter Theodora was eventually lost in a shipwreck off the coast of North Carolina at the Graveyard of the Atlantic.
I'm originally from New York but I'm watching this from L.A. where I live today and I knew nothing about this man or his garden. And what a coincidence that I watched this after watching the Christmas Tree Lighting ceremony in Rockefeller Center tonight. All those holiday activities happening right on top of Hosack's garden.
Great video!! Extremely informative and interesting
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I wonder if David Hosack met Alexander Von Humboldt? Andrea Wulfs book, "The Invention of Nature - Alexander Von Humboldt's New World" is a good read. She also has a couple of other books that relate to this video, "The Founding Gardeners" and "The Brother Gardeners." Humboldt's name was once one of the most prevalent names in the U.S. Humboldt Couty & River survived, but there was a purge of German names during and after WWI and Humboldt's name was included in that purge.
If anyone has the opportunity to visit Fairchild Tropical Garden in Miami, I highly recommend it. It was started by David Fairchild, an actor that traveled the world in a large sailing ship and brought back plants and trees from wherever he went. David Fairchild is the son-in-law of Alexander Hamilton.
I don’t know if they met personally, but they did correspond.
Hamilton- Burr duel was July 11 1804. Hamilton later died in his doctor's house on Jane street and was buried outside trinity church.
It’s a shame they couldn’t see the beauty and usefulness and kept some of the garden.
But I’m glad botanical gardens are prevalent know, we have a gorgeous one at City Park. Luckily my city has hung on to some large green and small green spaces for everyone to enjoy.
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Benjamin Rush state park is the only state park inside the city limits of Philadelphia. it also includes a community garden- we had a garden plot there one year....
.. I wonder .. what would David Hosack think of New York today ? Thank you HG...you teach these 73 year old brain cells something marvelous every day !! I to am a cat guy...Emma says hello !
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all those high friends n still he lost it - i would of had tours and lectures at the gardens opened it up to the public on certain days and gone to the papers with a once a week detailed Botany of a single plant , what a shame for such an honourable selfless project
"The Chelsea Physic Garden was established as the Apothecaries' Garden in London, England, in 1673 by the Worshipful Society of Apothecaries to grow plants to be used as medicines." This garden is 3.5 acres in size. It's a shame the New York garden has gone.
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A fitting thing.... Rockefeller Center should plant a Christmas tree that can grow and thrive.... that way there would be a permanent huge tree all year long, decorated for every season.... a true way to honor the botanical genius that had tried to keep and save the garden that had already been there!! ❤🙏😊
What about the Brooklyn Botanical Garden? How does its history relate to Elgin?
"Highway Wild Flowers" Appropriate !!!
Imagine the cures if that garden had stayed in service. It would still be a hotspot for medical science. New York could’ve been completely different entirely!!!
Why didn’t they move the specimens from the gardens, instead of concreting on top of them?
Or why didn’t they create an underground museum, to remember the gardens? Perhaps with some clever lighting, mirrors and glass roads, they could’ve even kept some of the plants alive.
Most of the specimens had either been sold or lost due to neglect. The University saw the value only in the land.
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Back when Manhattan was still wild ......
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Paved paradise and put up a parking is about Berkeley and how UC Berkeley paved over Peoples Park
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Question, I remember a society from the 1700s/1800s that was in Pennsylvania called the Audobon Society, I think it was for birds and bird species, was it somehow similarly setup by ornithologists of the same period?
Yes, named for (although not by) John James Audubon and still going strong. th-cam.com/video/koaaWJo9X0g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0rPO9E0ekDTowmn5
Typical fate of most things entrusted to the gooberment. Some things never change.
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Sadly, the history of the Elgan garden reflects the short-sightedness of the general approach by most American groups--proventialism and lack of insight. The basis of medicine is plants and their beneficial effect upon humans. So, botany, the lesser of the scientific arts or the foundation upon which the rest of the scientific arts are based?
Well, this explains why European plant-based pharmacopaeia is so much more advanced than that of the US. Plant-based vs test tube-based.
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Is there any truth to the rumor that Bernie Sanders once broke-up a fight between Hamilton & Burr?
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Concerning your sponsor, one person can be falsely accused of being whatever for researching something, which to the paranoid means that someone can pick whatever brush to paint you with. Don't research that. LoL
Citizen of the world sounds like an enemy of the state.
Only if you have a guilty conscience!
This is a classic use of the term, which generally meant someone who understood the wider world. It was usually applied to scholars. I don’t think it was making any statement about national citizenship. By any definition the good doctor was both a good citizen and a patriot.
This is why Americans have always been seen as "backward", if not worse. Bean counters always fail to see and appreciate innovation and are so unimaginative to seize great opportunities before the flood. Such as The Elgin Garden and so too The SSC down in Texas.
Amazing. Too bad. He was a visionary. It’s also an example of what happens when government takes over.
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