Respectful and courteous opens doors. So does picking up trash everywhere you go. Those three things are not enough to preserve our right of passage. Georgia Rivers, along with our communication with Georgia legislators might be enough.
Anglers for all rivers, please pay attention. Georgia may not be your destination, but fishing is. What goes around, comes around. Support responsible and free passage groups like these folks.
Love it. Mr. Little, what kayak suit are you wearing 4 minutes in to the video? Also, purchased Alan Battista's 3 books, is that you he mentions- looks like it?
I’ve run into this on the Fox River in Wedron, Illinois. Specifically, Indian Creek. The way the land is deeded and recorded, the landowner owns the creek bottom and ANY access without permission is trespassing. Both the IDNR Conservation Police and local law enforcement confirmed this, as did the county seat. The law and its enforcement can vary from county to county. It’s confusing.
Are jon boats allowed to launch at these public access points? or just kayak and canoes? I cannot find any information or regulations for the smaller rivers and creeks.
First I saw of this was watching creek fishing adventures and John had words with a landowner about it, never realized this was a thing till he had done a follow up and realized the landowner may have been right telling him to fish the other bank. This just seems crazy, it’s like saying at any moment if they own both sides log the river they can dam it up or put what would amount to an artificial strainer across to keep people out. Totally off topic when you gonna do a video on that kestrel inflatable or still in r&d phase of that kayak?
We live on a lake in South Carolina the only problem I have is when people come on shore or dock at my dock and walk around on my floating platform some people on the lake have a 75 foot set back we own directly to the water
Isn’t the GA has a law when both sides of the river/creek owned by private owner/ owners, they also own the bottom and you cannot float or paddle this water? You are only allowed to do so in navigating type water as I recall. This is why some trout streams cannot not be accessible by public. Jeff, can you clarify this?
This is the core of the issue. There are different interpretations of current laws that lead to different outcomes and enforcement. Here’s another way to put it. Do we want; A. A privately owned river that brings $250K in economic benefits to the region in the form of lodging and exclusive access to a heavily stocked fishing resort. or B. A river that anyone can float through, fish, hunt, paddle or recreate in a variety of ways that supports multiple lodging, food & beverage, tackle shops, guides, outfitters, paddling educators, paddle shops and other vacation related businesses like RV parks and campsites. This broader spectrum “access for all” would bring dozens of times more economic benefits to the region compared to the “exclusive resort” model of river access.
@ as I understand the current law is leaning to “A”. The GA is hyper conservative to change laws in general, and I suspect I won’t see letter “B” in near future.
I love catching fish in front of those no fishing signs ..stupid people do that on rivers here in Wisconsin all the time. We even have folks who string 80lb line in front of the rip rap on their river front for the sole purpose of snagging lures 😂 needless to say I cut those all the time 😂
i was threatned in Virginia and landowner even called sheriff on me, i was wade fishing a 30 foot wide creek, and was told i be arrested, they said Virginia law he owns the creek bottom, i just left they acted like nazi's, i still dont know who was in the right, i entered water by a bridge no where near his property and smallmouth fished upstream
Important work
This is great stuff. Even though I’m from Pennsylvania it’s great to see people get together for this cause. Thank you for sharing.
Very informative. Just being respectful and courteous goes a long way as well. Thanks Jeff.
Respectful and courteous opens doors. So does picking up trash everywhere you go. Those three things are not enough to preserve our right of passage. Georgia Rivers, along with our communication with Georgia legislators might be enough.
Enjoy your video and fight to keep our waters open to kayaking
Great watch. We see more and more of this everywhere. Great job Jeff
Thanks. It’s an important issue.
Anglers for all rivers, please pay attention. Georgia may not be your destination, but fishing is. What goes around, comes around. Support responsible and free passage groups like these folks.
Love it. Mr. Little, what kayak suit are you wearing 4 minutes in to the video? Also, purchased Alan Battista's 3 books, is that you he mentions- looks like it?
The drysuit is the NRS Nomad. Yes, Alan is a friend. I took the photo for the cover of his first book.
@@TheLittleStuff Thank You, great content!
I’ve run into this on the Fox River in Wedron, Illinois. Specifically, Indian Creek. The way the land is deeded and recorded, the landowner owns the creek bottom and ANY access without permission is trespassing. Both the IDNR Conservation Police and local law enforcement confirmed this, as did the county seat.
The law and its enforcement can vary from county to county. It’s confusing.
Are jon boats allowed to launch at these public access points? or just kayak and canoes? I cannot find any information or regulations for the smaller rivers and creeks.
Access is access for the most part. There are some that are “carry in only”, meaning that you are not allowed to back a trailer in.
First I saw of this was watching creek fishing adventures and John had words with a landowner about it, never realized this was a thing till he had done a follow up and realized the landowner may have been right telling him to fish the other bank. This just seems crazy, it’s like saying at any moment if they own both sides log the river they can dam it up or put what would amount to an artificial strainer across to keep people out. Totally off topic when you gonna do a video on that kestrel inflatable or still in r&d phase of that kayak?
It’s still very early in the R & D.
We live on a lake in South Carolina the only problem I have is when people come on shore or dock at my dock and walk around on my floating platform some people on the lake have a 75 foot set back we own directly to the water
That should not be. I’m not sure how the SC laws are, but to hop up onto someone’s deck seems wrong.
Isn’t the GA has a law when both sides of the river/creek owned by private owner/ owners, they also own the bottom and you cannot float or paddle this water? You are only allowed to do so in navigating type water as I recall. This is why some trout streams cannot not be accessible by public. Jeff, can you clarify this?
This is the core of the issue. There are different interpretations of current laws that lead to different outcomes and enforcement.
Here’s another way to put it.
Do we want;
A. A privately owned river that brings $250K in economic benefits to the region in the form of lodging and exclusive access to a heavily stocked fishing resort.
or
B. A river that anyone can float through, fish, hunt, paddle or recreate in a variety of ways that supports multiple lodging, food & beverage, tackle shops, guides, outfitters, paddling educators, paddle shops and other vacation related businesses like RV parks and campsites. This broader spectrum “access for all” would bring dozens of times more economic benefits to the region compared to the “exclusive resort” model of river access.
@ as I understand the current law is leaning to “A”. The GA is hyper conservative to change laws in general, and I suspect I won’t see letter “B” in near future.
I love catching fish in front of those no fishing signs
..stupid people do that on rivers here in Wisconsin all the time.
We even have folks who string 80lb line in front of the rip rap on their river front for the sole purpose of snagging lures 😂 needless to say I cut those all the time 😂
i was threatned in Virginia and landowner even called sheriff on me, i was wade fishing a 30 foot wide creek, and was told i be arrested, they said Virginia law he owns the creek bottom, i just left they acted like nazi's, i still dont know who was in the right, i entered water by a bridge no where near his property and smallmouth fished upstream
Virginia is one of the few states that has unresolved right of passage laws. Sorry to hear that you experienced this behavior. It’s not right.