Another advantage is the size of the ship. Enemies will mistake the Kurfürst as an island, giving you the opportunity to strike first even when spotted.
@@krezalidkrezalid5669 yes SMS Grosser Kurfurst was a dreadnought bb I think but it was smaller and had 305 mm or 356 mm guns. This is technically really called H-44
Prinz Eugen and Conqueror: Your going down Yamato!!!!! Yamato: I won't back down!!!!!! Prinz Eugen: Ha!!!! You and what army? (Großer Kurfürst pulls alongside Yamato) Großer Kurfürst: Need assistance, Yamato? Conqueror: Uh-oh Yamato: Glad you showed up Kurfürst!!!!! (Montana pulls alongside Kurfürst) Montana: Care if I join in on the fun you two? Prinz Eugen: Double uh-oh Großer Kurfürst: ATTACK!!!!!!!!!! Prinz Eugen: RUN!!!!!!!!!!
Useless to play this ship when no one dares to push, the amount of times I have committed to a push, and then haver everyone run away - you don't run away in the Kurfurst - once you commit, you're in it to win it... - so if you see a Kurfurst starting to charge, support it.
Not only was it never build like that, it was never designed like that. In reality it would have got 480mm guns. But wargaming's policy is : no guns bigger than Yamatos. Triple barrelled turrets is something I won't forgive wargaming. German warships were all about fire rate with dual barrelled turrets. Also, the AA is worse than the Tier 9 AA. WHY? >.>
Also in project one of the variants of Yamato have 3x2 510mm guns, but aslo heaviest superyamato project (A150+ family) have 4x3 510mm guns!!! But aslo only project or just concept ;)
KubusSc7 It is sad but true. The Germans for some reason believed triple gun turrets decreased accuracy when fired together, so other than the smaller 283mm used on Deutschland-class & Scharnhorst, no capital ships ever built or designed carried triple gun turrets. The Kurfurst is probably drawn off the H42 design (the Friedrich is a H39-41 depending on 406mm or 420mm). It would have carried 2x4 480mm guns (19in).
The tier 9 is the hybrid of H39 and H41. T10 is H42. Just look at that size please... Gun calibre looks ridicolously low. Wrong guns. This ship would never have been build like that. There is no way around that fact.
Montana has no purpose any more. It's AA is no longer a redeeming factor because the Kurfurst's is comparable, while the Montana's citadels are protected by paper, because reasons.
But that works with every faction. USN,IJN,Kriegsmarine and so on. I really like german ships but i don't go around bragging or throw trash on other countries' ships. I really hate those who say ''Yamato best ship lel noob'' or ''Iowa'' or '' Bismarck''.
@@MajinAdell just wait for the russian upgrade with their realistic 200k hp 4x4 500mm guns with a detection range of a dd. bias is wargamings policy it seems
WeGee has publicly stated that they'll never have another ship with guns bigger than 457.6mm (the threshold for overmatching 32mm of armour). Musashi is the only exception they've allowed since she was Yamato's sister, and did you see how badly she got gimped out just to shoehorn her in at tier IX? If H44 was in the game, those guns would probably overmatch a handful of ships' *main belt* armour, not just the bow.
Well they have a point, its Anti Aircraft is good, but lets be honest, the Montana has the best AA Rating, especially after adding modifications and captain skills, it goes over 100! The Großer Kürfürst has amazing Secondaries so just forget the AA (unless you really hate planes) and just get the most OP secondaries build in the game. (Lets be honest, us BB Drivers hate pesky DD's.)
i just want to say this, i played up against this ship... It was a nightmare, however I lived for about 45 seconds in its presence, before all four main turrets took me back to port :(
Ich find des so geil, wie der "großer Kurfürst" ausspricht XD Aber an sich sehr schönes Video und sehr schönes Schiff. Wird wohl mein zweites Lieblingsschiff neben der Yamato werden. Jetzt interessiert mich aber noch die Musik vom Videoanfang und Videoende...die war echt genial. ;)
When I first looked at her before she became playable, the area where the airplane catapult is installed seemed strange. I really hope I don't have to worry about a Grosser Kurfürst on my 1st battle as Des Moines. But If I have to, I'll keep my distance a throw shells into enemy decks.
AA modifications? Yeah, maybe if you fixed carrier gameplay (exp/credits) and there were carrier captains showing up more often, it could be a viable option. I'll just stick to my secondaries.
according to some sources, this ship in the game is historically inaccurate according to germans blueprint the main armament supposed to be Dual turret(2x4) not Triple(3x4)
The one in sources are probably the first design of blueprints for the 2x4. The Germans must've thought about it, so they probably drew a turret Blueprint with 3x4 420mm guns.
The fantasy name is really ill-chosen from Wargaming. While there was a BB with that name in WW1 it sounds straight ridiculous to german ears and if this ship would have been build, it would *never ever* have gotten this name. It's as likely as to have named a soviet ship after a czar. More realistic would have been "Hindenburg", "Friedrich der Große", "Barbarossa", "Großdeutschland", "Götz von Berlichingen", "Ulrich von Hutten".
NO! No german ship in WW2 would've ever be named "Großdeutschland" because Hitler feared that this ship could be sunk...and that would be veeery negative for press etc...
Tim Bergmann This one seems more on the unlikely side as at that age the KM general seemed to prefer names - though still 1000 times more likely than Großer Kurfürst - yet there is no proof at all that Hitler would never have called the biggest bad ass battleship of the Kriegsmarine Großdeutschland. The case which make people assume that is because he renamed the "Deutschland". And while a legit veto there's a difference between the fear that an outdated Heavy Cruiser could be sunk and a modern, huge battleship representing germany's pride.
Tim Bergmann The Royal Navy had only a very limited amount of submarines as it was seen since WW1 as a "unbritish" weapon and there's really no need for submarines when you have the massive advantage of an overwhelming force above the waterline.
Also, to anyone trying to say "Oh the Germans never said that their H Series Battleships had Triple Guns" to that I say, "Oh what about something called, hmmm I dont know, Scharnhorst, Lutzow, Admiral Graf Spee, Admiral Sheer, Gniesenau." Like come on, the Germans had Triple Turrets, like come on, its not at all impossible or stupid. Those Triple Turrets that those ships had were very good! The Germans know what they are doing! Not everything has to have only 2 Guns!
General_Dave_1 The issue is, that the H Class battleships were meant to have high-caliber guns, encased in dual turrets. That's why a lot of people complain about what WG did to the Kurfürst.
PhantomXT also the triple turret design for the GO was supposedly designed for the Russians. The Germans didn't like triple turrets for their large caliber guns since it would negate a large percentage of their firepower if knocked out. Don't believe everything WG puts out some of it is a figment of WG's imagination Oh I didn't see you there WT auf E100
Skystalker im not "believing" everything Wargaming says. Yes I understand that there are limitations, yes I know that something with such a large caliber would make it unbalanced, yes I understand all of that. But think, If the Germans Really Wanted to make the H-44 Class have Triple Guns, it would not be a Bad Idea, I mean picture this, (its alternate history) the British Have just Unvealed their Lion class Battleship and the Americans are sending a Montana over to fight the Kriegsmarine, what you want is Fast Firing and Hard hitting guns that can fight off and kill these two Super ships, so why not just make it have triple turrets, if you had double turrets you would be outgunned even if you gun is big, also the Reload speed would take at least 2 Mins, so that is out of the question, and Im glad that Wargaming used Triple guns cause I thought that it would be outgunned and helpless in the situation. Also, they Have a Tier IX, the Friederick Der Große, if you hate the Großer Kurfürst, then just play the Tier IX, it wont change anything, you'll just have less guns, even if they are the same size as the tier X. And Less Health, Secondaries, Blah Blah Blah you get it?
@general_dave_1 thanks for pointing out your opinion and nothing else. Lets get to the facts, shall we? German BB building indeed experimented with triple gun turrets and they did not like them because of several reasons. First there is, as stated above, the possibiliy to loose 25-33% of your firepower when one of those turrets gets blown away. Secondy, they are heavy as hell (and this is really important!). Just check out the old german Battlecruiser designs of WW 1, especially the Derfflinger-Class, whic is like a grandfather to the bismarck... and it worked like hell. More armor and speed for compensation of fewer guns (not worse guns!) and you have a ship which is alot more versatile and good in several situations. One important thing most people forget is, its not about the pure firepower of those ships (or lets call it the broadside weight, as they did back in the 1800s) anymore in WW2, its also about being able to fit into alot of roles. Double barrel guns are alot more fitting for the GK (H41)... dont tell me about triples... just rework the reload and accuracy and they will feel like triples.
L3gi I will correct you on one thing the GK is assumed to be an H40B design with those triple turrets designed for the Russians. The H41 is actually the FDG with the 17 inch guns and the H39 is the FDG with the 16 inch guns
Also, Wargaming, Lets think about the British Tier X Battleship/Battlecruiser. HMS Incomparable, seems like it would be perfect, Weak Armour, Fast Speed, and the Largest guns (even though it only has 3 Turrets and 2 guns each.) Why cant the British Tier X be a big scary 20inch Gun Sniper/Class Cannon. It would basically be the FV215B (183) but on the High Sea's!
General_Dave_1 They're likely to place the Vanguard or the Lion at Tier X, they don't want to bring in a battleship with bigger guns than the Yamato's.
PhantomXT, yeah, that may be true, but lets be honest those two ships, would better off being tier IX, cause 15inch guns on the Vanguard... forget it! It just cant be that. They could use the N3 Class Battleship St.Patrick (Planned Battleship with 18 inch guns in triple turrets)
What design did you guys use for this ship? It doesn't look like any H-class and those are the only german battleship concepts that I know of. If you can tell me please do. It has been bugging me for months now.
Real blueprint of H-39 and H-41 class battleships were totally different from the ship shown in the video. In another game "Battle of warships" you can see the actual 3d model of the H-41. In the premium version of "Atlantic fleet" two H-39 named Hutten and Belrichigen was added. H-39 and H-41 looks like a huge Bismarck with stronger armaments and better protection systems.
Hmmm so she is part of the German h class battleship proposals (H-39) but could it be possible for wargaming to add one battleship from the German H class battleship proposals to add it in the game or would it be to broken
@@lucki8040 it's actually a desinge made by the Germans in ww2 but never brought to fruition. It was just made as a concept. So it was a real design just never made
What i think is kinda funny, the Friedrich der Große has in terms of DPS better AA then the Kurfürst......hell my Kurfürst often struggels to shoot down T8 Planes
The video brags about the 10km secondary range...but had previously recommended you take AA upgrades which would mean you can't get the secondaries to that range lol.
"despite the fact that this steel giant was never built in reality" Hmmm,this seems odd. It was built in 1913 and was a sistership of the konig class battleship. It had the same design and it was very tanky. This cannot be the H-Class battleships as it was the Friedrich de Grosse was the only one in the game of this class
The one built in 1913 was called SMS Großer Kurfürst. This design that you see in this video is an H Class Super Battleship design called Kriegmarine (KMS) Großer Kurfürst
@Goose Actually even the H-39 (FdG) was longer than Yamato and she is the smallest of the H-Family. Next to that: H-42 and H-43 had 48cm guns planned (18,9 inch) and were supossoded to be 330 Mters long (305 Meters for H-42 and 330 Meters on H-43), H-44 had 50.8 cm guns planned (20 inch) and should have been 345 Meters long. And the biggest concept the H-45 had 80cm guns planned (31.5 inch). It was supposed to be 606 Meters long. Yamato was ''just'' 270 Meters long
@@krezalidkrezalid5669 Nope. Großer Kurfüst is too small for the H-44 and doesn't have the 50.8cm guns. The H-41 were planned with 42cm guns. That's what G.K has
I don't know... I digged the Plan-Z, I digged almost everything there is to know about the H-class battleships, but in every situation they were supposed to mount dual turrets...
Another advantage is the size of the ship. Enemies will mistake the Kurfürst as an island, giving you the opportunity to strike first even when spotted.
Hindenburg: Is that an island?
Großer Kurfürst: Nope
Hindenburg: Oh No!!!!!
Großer Kurfürst: Jeez I just wanted to say hi
Even better when enemies don't have HUD on
look that island has a health bar on top of it!
but I thought Grosser Kurfürst was build in reality. Laid down: October 1911, Launched: 5 May 1913,
Commissioned: 30 July 1914
Krezalid69 that’s a german protected cruiser of ww1. the großer kurfurst in game is an h-41 which was a paper design
"All this steel fortress needs is a reliable captain" and to register as a island nation with the UN every time you press the battle button
but I thought Grosser Kurfürst was build in reality. Laid down: October 1911, Launched: 5 May 1913,
Commissioned: 30 July 1914
@@krezalidkrezalid5669 wrong ship
this reliable captain is no other than daniel russev
@@krezalidkrezalid5669 that was a kønig class battleship
@@krezalidkrezalid5669 yes SMS Grosser Kurfurst was a dreadnought bb I think but it was smaller and had 305 mm or 356 mm guns. This is technically really called H-44
You guys should see my roomate's face when he saw this thing sail next to his Yamato, it was hilarious. XD
Mammoth Mk3 May I ask what was his reaction? Shock? Awe? Disbelief?
I remember sailing by a Yamato in my Kurfurst 2 years ago. It was my first time using it. Could it have been me who sailed by? Or was it coincidence.
Prinz Eugen and Conqueror: Your going down Yamato!!!!!
Yamato: I won't back down!!!!!!
Prinz Eugen: Ha!!!! You and what army?
(Großer Kurfürst pulls alongside Yamato)
Großer Kurfürst: Need assistance, Yamato?
Conqueror: Uh-oh
Yamato: Glad you showed up Kurfürst!!!!!
(Montana pulls alongside Kurfürst)
Montana: Care if I join in on the fun you two?
Prinz Eugen: Double uh-oh
Großer Kurfürst: ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!
Prinz Eugen: RUN!!!!!!!!!!
His reaction would have been
"What The Heck?!?!?!
Kurfürst: hi how are ya
"Oh heck no!!!!!!"
Mountain besides him
So...basically a Maus Battleship?
A maus that burn very well. i mean VERY VERY well
Ermy yeah you can set like, how many is it again? Oh yeah, 6 FIRES AT ONCE!
More like a P1000 Ratte Battleship
type 4 heavy
A maus that catches fire everytime you a HE shell hits you
I'm convinced that game developers never play their game.
Yea...define standard...
I've always thought this lol, when they talk about it it's like they're describing a different game
- FreeFlow - yea like use aa on this ship is so great! reality thee AA on that ship is garbage and nobody plays cv anyway
Ermy "it has impenetrable armor".................
- FreeFlow - yea i was like, really? i got a citadel hit using the minotaur (lol) on this
"As for other upgrades, the recommended set is pretty standard."
AA GUNS MOD 2 AND 3 ARE NOT THE STANDARD FOR GERMAN BATTLESHIPS
Any german schlachtschiff captain knows to upgrade the secondaries!
Germnan Schlachtschiff captain xD Das hat mir extrem den Tag versüßt XD
Dark Prelate Mohandar for someone smart yes it is
*Special Ability: Yamato Gun Sound*
*Description:*
*With the Yamato gun sound, you can do anything, and be as accurate as the Yamato itself*
Yes of course
Yuro reference
Useless to play this ship when no one dares to push, the amount of times I have committed to a push, and then haver everyone run away - you don't run away in the Kurfurst - once you commit, you're in it to win it... - so if you see a Kurfurst starting to charge, support it.
Same can be said for shinyhorse, biscuit, derpitz, and the tier 9 whos name escapes me.
still
there medium range bbs o3o
Sakuya Izayoi which ships? do you mean *Scharnhorst, *Bismarck and *Tirpitz??😅
Sakuya Izayoi the tier 9 couldve been Friedrich der Grosse
You only push late game. Never push early.
Großer Kurfürst is a beauty ;))))
Not only was it never build like that, it was never designed like that. In reality it would have got 480mm guns. But wargaming's policy is : no guns bigger than Yamatos. Triple barrelled turrets is something I won't forgive wargaming. German warships were all about fire rate with dual barrelled turrets.
Also, the AA is worse than the Tier 9 AA. WHY? >.>
reality 8 Guns no 12 Guns.
Also in project one of the variants of Yamato have 3x2 510mm guns, but aslo heaviest superyamato project (A150+ family) have 4x3 510mm guns!!! But aslo only project or just concept ;)
KubusSc7 It is sad but true. The Germans for some reason believed triple gun turrets decreased accuracy when fired together, so other than the smaller 283mm used on Deutschland-class & Scharnhorst, no capital ships ever built or designed carried triple gun turrets.
The Kurfurst is probably drawn off the H42 design (the Friedrich is a H39-41 depending on 406mm or 420mm). It would have carried 2x4 480mm guns (19in).
It's supposedly based off the H41, though that's the tier 9 with the 420's
The tier 9 is the hybrid of H39 and H41. T10 is H42. Just look at that size please... Gun calibre looks ridicolously low. Wrong guns. This ship would never have been build like that. There is no way around that fact.
When I see this thing the only thing going round in my head is RAMMING SPEED
Grosser kurfuerst is a better Montana
Nice Storm true
Montana has no purpose any more. It's AA is no longer a redeeming factor because the Kurfurst's is comparable, while the Montana's citadels are protected by paper, because reasons.
best tier 10 at all of cruisers carriers destroyers battleships but biggest aswel
lol
If all 12 shells hit, a kurfurst has way more damage potential then a yamato
I miss this kind of Armada Videos.
When Wargaming doesn't introduce the H44 as to not hurt the weaboos.
Hemimike426 they don't want to have a ship with 20+ inch guns hence why the H44 and A-150 family are not in the game
Hemimike426 give us 480mm wargaming!!
But that works with every faction. USN,IJN,Kriegsmarine and so on. I really like german ships but i don't go around bragging or throw trash on other countries' ships. I really hate those who say ''Yamato best ship lel noob'' or ''Iowa'' or '' Bismarck''.
@@MajinAdell just wait for the russian upgrade with their realistic 200k hp 4x4 500mm guns with a detection range of a dd. bias is wargamings policy it seems
WeGee has publicly stated that they'll never have another ship with guns bigger than 457.6mm (the threshold for overmatching 32mm of armour). Musashi is the only exception they've allowed since she was Yamato's sister, and did you see how badly she got gimped out just to shoehorn her in at tier IX?
If H44 was in the game, those guns would probably overmatch a handful of ships' *main belt* armour, not just the bow.
This Ship should have torpedoes like it was planned in real life.
Thats the thing missing...not another Kurfürst
+1 KanColle :3
:D
Atago-Chan so right
Atago-Senpai!!!!
wargaming doesn't design underwater torpedoes, but if it was designed to have surface torpedoes then yes, that's what's missing.
Well they have a point, its Anti Aircraft is good, but lets be honest, the Montana has the best AA Rating, especially after adding modifications and captain skills, it goes over 100! The Großer Kürfürst has amazing Secondaries so just forget the AA (unless you really hate planes) and just get the most OP secondaries build in the game. (Lets be honest, us BB Drivers hate pesky DD's.)
Sun Tzu teaches:
To defeat your enemy you must know him.
I think Grosser Kurfurst knows Yamato very well 💪💀
Bring a monster to fight a monster,
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 a bigger monster
"It's like an avalanche that can't be stopped." Well i mostly stop her with my Yamato and it doesn't even cause me too much trouble. 😂😂
Strange i easily land multi citadels on Yamatos with this
@@aniket33591 Or you burn the Yamato with secondaries
i just want to say this, i played up against this ship... It was a nightmare, however I lived for about 45 seconds in its presence, before all four main turrets took me back to port :(
0:00 What is the soundtrack from this Timestamp.
First soundtrack is called "Ice Man", then followed by "Aggression". Both title composed by Chris Egan & Andrew Cooksley.
Oh, almost forgot. 3:59 The final soundtrack is called "Super Powers", composed by Chris Egan & Luke Richards
@@entah_lah93 Thank you so much
Good news! I've found the world's missing supply of hyperbole.
The actual biggest ship in the game, I did a size comparison and the kurfurst is, somehow bigger.
I'd like to see an "Armada" Missouri.
Ich find des so geil, wie der "großer Kurfürst" ausspricht XD Aber an sich sehr schönes Video und sehr schönes Schiff. Wird wohl mein zweites Lieblingsschiff neben der Yamato werden. Jetzt interessiert mich aber noch die Musik vom Videoanfang und Videoende...die war echt genial. ;)
This ship makes the Yamato looks like a tier 1 dd
Sivakumar Nama tier 1 DDs don't exist...
You Mean A Tier 10 Moskva. Huh?
Tier 2 DDs have good torpedo reload because it's a low tier ship.
Yamato has bigger caliber plus better AA and better secondary guns
It would have been the perfect tallboy bait with plenty of points to aim for.
German Engineering at its BEST!🇩🇪
When I first looked at her before she became playable, the area where the airplane catapult is installed seemed strange. I really hope I don't have to worry about a Grosser Kurfürst on my 1st battle as Des Moines. But If I have to, I'll keep my distance a throw shells into enemy decks.
Meanwhile every dds and cruisers camping behind cliffs burning u down
Großer Kurfürst was a WW1 battleship that was scuttled to prevent from falling into enemy hands during the surrender of the German empire
AA modifications? Yeah, maybe if you fixed carrier gameplay (exp/credits) and there were carrier captains showing up more often, it could be a viable option. I'll just stick to my secondaries.
yea i am... was a cv player. i remember the last game. 4 kills and 160k damage. 40 shot down. 1400 xp and -5k credits. wow.
according to some sources, this ship in the game is historically inaccurate according to germans blueprint the main armament supposed to be Dual turret(2x4) not Triple(3x4)
Hirokie They don't want any ship to have a gun of larger caliber compared to the Yamato biased guns
In Blitz its having 4×2 guns
The JP wouldn’t that be 2x4?
If heard dual 480s. Also and I heard an h44 design with dual 508s.
The one in sources are probably the first design of blueprints for the 2x4. The Germans must've thought about it, so they probably drew a turret Blueprint with 3x4 420mm guns.
I bet those AA defenses won’t stop a swordfish...
This is one of the Kriegsmarine cancelled H-class battleship. The mighty Großer Kurfüst
The fantasy name is really ill-chosen from Wargaming. While there was a BB with that name in WW1 it sounds straight ridiculous to german ears and if this ship would have been build, it would *never ever* have gotten this name. It's as likely as to have named a soviet ship after a czar. More realistic would have been "Hindenburg", "Friedrich der Große", "Barbarossa", "Großdeutschland", "Götz von Berlichingen", "Ulrich von Hutten".
NO! No german ship in WW2 would've ever be named "Großdeutschland" because Hitler feared that this ship could be sunk...and that would be veeery negative for press etc...
Tim Bergmann
This one seems more on the unlikely side as at that age the KM general seemed to prefer names - though still 1000 times more likely than Großer Kurfürst - yet there is no proof at all that Hitler would never have called the biggest bad ass battleship of the Kriegsmarine Großdeutschland.
The case which make people assume that is because he renamed the "Deutschland". And while a legit veto there's a difference between the fear that an outdated Heavy Cruiser could be sunk and a modern, huge battleship representing germany's pride.
CoIdHeat
This huge, awesome, badass, mega-giga-battleship can be easily sunk by Torpedoes or, better, submarines.
Tim Bergmann
The Royal Navy had only a very limited amount of submarines as it was seen since WW1 as a "unbritish" weapon and there's really no need for submarines when you have the massive advantage of an overwhelming force above the waterline.
CoIdHeat
yeah...overwhelming force...if the H44 really would've been finished, there wouldn't be any other "overwhelming force" ^^
exactly why I chose the german tech tree
Also, to anyone trying to say "Oh the Germans never said that their H Series Battleships had Triple Guns" to that I say, "Oh what about something called, hmmm I dont know, Scharnhorst, Lutzow, Admiral Graf Spee, Admiral Sheer, Gniesenau." Like come on, the Germans had Triple Turrets, like come on, its not at all impossible or stupid. Those Triple Turrets that those ships had were very good! The Germans know what they are doing! Not everything has to have only 2 Guns!
General_Dave_1 The issue is, that the H Class battleships were meant to have high-caliber guns, encased in dual turrets. That's why a lot of people complain about what WG did to the Kurfürst.
PhantomXT also the triple turret design for the GO was supposedly designed for the Russians. The Germans didn't like triple turrets for their large caliber guns since it would negate a large percentage of their firepower if knocked out. Don't believe everything WG puts out some of it is a figment of WG's imagination
Oh I didn't see you there WT auf E100
Skystalker im not "believing" everything Wargaming says. Yes I understand that there are limitations, yes I know that something with such a large caliber would make it unbalanced, yes I understand all of that. But think, If the Germans Really Wanted to make the H-44 Class have Triple Guns, it would not be a Bad Idea, I mean picture this, (its alternate history) the British Have just Unvealed their Lion class Battleship and the Americans are sending a Montana over to fight the Kriegsmarine, what you want is Fast Firing and Hard hitting guns that can fight off and kill these two Super ships, so why not just make it have triple turrets, if you had double turrets you would be outgunned even if you gun is big, also the Reload speed would take at least 2 Mins, so that is out of the question, and Im glad that Wargaming used Triple guns cause I thought that it would be outgunned and helpless in the situation.
Also, they Have a Tier IX, the Friederick Der Große, if you hate the Großer Kurfürst, then just play the Tier IX, it wont change anything, you'll just have less guns, even if they are the same size as the tier X. And Less Health, Secondaries, Blah Blah Blah you get it?
@general_dave_1
thanks for pointing out your opinion and nothing else.
Lets get to the facts, shall we?
German BB building indeed experimented with triple gun turrets and they did not like them because of several reasons. First there is, as stated above, the possibiliy to loose 25-33% of your firepower when one of those turrets gets blown away. Secondy, they are heavy as hell (and this is really important!). Just check out the old german Battlecruiser designs of WW 1, especially the Derfflinger-Class, whic is like a grandfather to the bismarck... and it worked like hell. More armor and speed for compensation of fewer guns (not worse guns!) and you have a ship which is alot more versatile and good in several situations.
One important thing most people forget is, its not about the pure firepower of those ships (or lets call it the broadside weight, as they did back in the 1800s) anymore in WW2, its also about being able to fit into alot of roles.
Double barrel guns are alot more fitting for the GK (H41)...
dont tell me about triples... just rework the reload and accuracy and they will feel like triples.
L3gi I will correct you on one thing the GK is assumed to be an H40B design with those triple turrets designed for the Russians. The H41 is actually the FDG with the 17 inch guns and the H39 is the FDG with the 16 inch guns
Also, Wargaming, Lets think about the British Tier X Battleship/Battlecruiser.
HMS Incomparable, seems like it would be perfect, Weak Armour, Fast Speed, and the Largest guns (even though it only has 3 Turrets and 2 guns each.) Why cant the British Tier X be a big scary 20inch Gun Sniper/Class Cannon. It would basically be the FV215B (183) but on the High Sea's!
General_Dave_1 They're likely to place the Vanguard or the Lion at Tier X, they don't want to bring in a battleship with bigger guns than the Yamato's.
PhantomXT, yeah, that may be true, but lets be honest those two ships, would better off being tier IX, cause 15inch guns on the Vanguard... forget it! It just cant be that. They could use the N3 Class Battleship St.Patrick (Planned Battleship with 18 inch guns in triple turrets)
Vanguard's guns were no better than the Warspite's, and Lion is more like Tier 9 material.
still_guns that was the point I was making!
I come from the future, and I have good news for you!
HE spam will take care of this monster
also the Grober kurfurst was an actual ship, in WW1, a Konig class.
Großer grosser
Grosser Kurfürst was, this is WG's own model of H44 class schlachtschiff
@@reyhan5324 Their own model of an H-41. For the H-44 is it too small and the armament is not right.
does this build still worth to do on the Großer Kurfürst? i'm starting the game now, i'm from wot
What design did you guys use for this ship? It doesn't look like any H-class and those are the only german battleship concepts that I know of. If you can tell me please do. It has been bugging me for months now.
Großer Kurfürst is a H-41 class with tripple turrets instead of twin turrets.
I dont have Großer K. but it looks soo nice
3:58 epic Moment
That’s no island... it’s a battleship
What class is GK? Cause some say H-41 and some say H-44
Is a fusion between H-41 and H-42.
Are the secondary turrets all along the side the same turrets from the the T1 German Gunboat? That's topkek
yea. same turrets on the tier 7.
Why isn't an Armada episode for Montana hmm
Just played as Grober Kurfurst, and sunk as soon as Montana destroyed me even though I just sunk them...
Was this based of a real blueprint never built or was this made from the ground up by you guys?
Real blueprint of H-39 and H-41 class battleships were totally different from the ship shown in the video. In another game "Battle of warships" you can see the actual 3d model of the H-41.
In the premium version of "Atlantic fleet" two H-39 named Hutten and Belrichigen was added. H-39 and H-41 looks like a huge Bismarck with stronger armaments and better protection systems.
Its almost 300 meters long like thats big and the germans planned a 340 meter long battleship but they didnt make it
Hold up where did you get these numbers?
Großer kurfurst!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hmmm so she is part of the German h class battleship proposals (H-39) but could it be possible for wargaming to add one battleship from the German H class battleship proposals to add it in the game or would it be to broken
Last time I know großer kürfurst has 4 twin turrets
hurr hurr pork knuckle gets HE spammed
-some random Des Moines
Eeeesh, its like Bismarck angrier cousin, that joined the USMC for anger therapy,
Why does the Großer Kurfürst have in the mobile Version less canons then in the pc version?
They nerfed it
Why do German guns firing sound so badass;)
Are the 3 triple guns of GK better then the double gun turrets GK
Vehicle with highest hit points in Wargaming... German engineering...
did this ship actually exist on the blueprints?
definitely not i think because WG is a fake fantasy thinker
Thx that question has been bugging me for a while.
@@lucki8040 it's actually a desinge made by the Germans in ww2 but never brought to fruition. It was just made as a concept. So it was a real design just never made
@@dangernoodle8813 wrong
Read above
@@TheBroughamGamer ok thanks! She is still gorgeous tho
I’m Kurfurst and Yamato, they both beasts
What i think is kinda funny, the Friedrich der Große has in terms of DPS better AA then the Kurfürst......hell my Kurfürst often struggels to shoot down T8 Planes
Porque no ponen el diseño A-150 que era la construcción de la clase de acorazados Súper Yamato sería genial que lo diseñaran
Tier 11?
Brandon Perez Trinidad yes I would love 21 inch guns
"join the game with a friend and be bombed to oblivion" ggwp wg :p
we need secondaries not anti aircraft but if there is a way to get both
It needs a range buff for its main guns 20km for a tir ten is short for a bb it should be at 23.4km range on it
Why are they showcasing a world of tanks map on world of warships armada?
So, this is basically a Maus battleship!
The video brags about the 10km secondary range...but had previously recommended you take AA upgrades which would mean you can't get the secondaries to that range lol.
This ship is so powerful they got rid of it locked it behind a paywall and then replaced it with a ship that's arguably not as good
When did coal become a paywall?
They should make a thing for tier XI custom ships for premium members
H-44 battleship gelirse tam olur o devi kullanmayı çok merak ederim(gerçi ben onu kullanamam ama kullanları izlerim hoş olurdu yani)
"despite the fact that this steel giant was never built in reality" Hmmm,this seems odd. It was built in 1913 and was a sistership of the konig class battleship. It had the same design and it was very tanky. This cannot be the H-Class battleships as it was the Friedrich de Grosse was the only one in the game of this class
Tyranatum The Bloxius it’s not that Grober Kürfurst, it’s supposed to be another H-Battleship with the same name as the König class BB
Maybe you're right,maybe I just didn't researched enough but thanks for the info
The one built in 1913 was called SMS Großer Kurfürst. This design that you see in this video is an H Class Super Battleship design called Kriegmarine (KMS) Großer Kurfürst
Is this ship base on H-44 or H-42 design?
H-41.
0:20 wrong, this ship was built and took part in the Battle of Jutland
LautaroJaguar uh that's the koing class Battleship you're think of this is a h41 with triple turrets instead of double.
Imagine if this ship got built an faught the hood in battle of denamrk strait
The German "Iowas?"
If it was a German Iowa, It would've been faster and had lower amounts of tonnage
i can't think of any tier X BB that's better than the Kurfurst. it's the best BB for me. and enjoyable to play than the other tier X BB's.
I would like to see them totally overestimate the tier nine Friedreich Der Groose
The gun fire sounds doesn't sound like montana and yamato gun fire sound
Best battleship? I want to choose advice me please
hay guys how about world of submarine good or bad idea
A submarine only game would be boring.
Subs in wows = arty in wot, nobody wants that.
Did you guys just created this ship? Or just seaching on google "german battleships" and create it
They used the blueprints of an H-41 class and gave it triple turrets and didn't give it the torpedos.
Can someone tell me the songs in this vid
Yeah sure, but I found only 3 :
[0:00] "Ice Man" by Chris Egan
[1:09] "Aggression" by Chris Egan
[3:59] "Super Powers" by Chris Egan & Luke Richards
Imagine If this ship had its original gun The 21inch Gun
Then everything dies.
Does anyone know something about the german battleship H44 it has 8×530mm guns
@Goose Actually even the H-39 (FdG) was longer than Yamato and she is the smallest of the H-Family. Next to that: H-42 and H-43 had 48cm guns planned (18,9 inch) and were supossoded to be 330 Mters long (305 Meters for H-42 and 330 Meters on H-43), H-44 had 50.8 cm guns planned (20 inch) and should have been 345 Meters long. And the biggest concept the H-45 had 80cm guns planned (31.5 inch). It was supposed to be 606 Meters long. Yamato was ''just'' 270 Meters long
In wows blitz, he only has only 8 guns, no 12
And that is not cool
It is even more insane than YAMATO! Luckily it is never actually built in to reality! (H55 Project modification without 800MM guns)
but I thought Grosser Kurfürst was build in reality. Laid down: October 1911, Launched: 5 May 1913,
Commissioned: 30 July 1914
The Großer Kurfürst that was built, was a König Class Battleship. The Großer Kurfürst in the game is an H-41 class. They were never built.
@@BrokenAngelWings H-44
@@krezalidkrezalid5669 Nope. Großer Kurfüst is too small for the H-44 and doesn't have the 50.8cm guns. The H-41 were planned with 42cm guns. That's what G.K has
If the germans buildes even one of those IRL i think the swordfishesh torpedoes wouldnt even penetrate its armour xD
This ship was built in reality in WW1
Awasomeeee!!!!⚓⚓
"aa guns mod 2 and 3" uh wargaming you should know that when you play a German BB you ALWAYS go with a secondary build.
Hey guys. Please make a video about cruiser Azuma
Tier 10 takes too much credits for me
I really want them to plan on releasing this on console!!😭😭 only thing I don't like PC it complicated to play with all those buttons and stuff
Rjfromthebay2001 Porter LoL, its not that complicated m8
what about the Japanese BB Musashi
I don't know... I digged the Plan-Z, I digged almost everything there is to know about the H-class battleships, but in every situation they were supposed to mount dual turrets...